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Mrsralph - 12 Oct 2004 03:10 GMT
Is it possible for someone to rot out their teeth between one 6-month check up
and the next if the teeth were in good condition at the first one?

(Not planning on it, just curious)
Joel M. Eichen - 12 Oct 2004 12:21 GMT
>Is it possible for someone to rot out their teeth between one 6-month check up
>and the next if the teeth were in good condition at the first one?
>
>(Not planning on it, just curious)

Nah, unless there is uncontrolled diabetes, for example.

Joel

Low mouth pH or high acidity.
Dr Steve - 12 Oct 2004 13:24 GMT
Usually not

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> Is it possible for someone to rot out their teeth between one 6-month
> check up
> and the next if the teeth were in good condition at the first one?
>
> (Not planning on it, just curious)
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 12 Oct 2004 14:43 GMT
> Is it possible for someone to rot out their teeth between one 6-month check up
> and the next if the teeth were in good condition at the first one?
>
> (Not planning on it, just curious)

    This would be unusual, but not unprecedented.  I have had patients with
low caries activity that suddenly increases greatly.  It may be due to
sudden onset of illness, or medications that change the quantity and/or
quality of saliva.
   
Steve

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Mrsralph - 12 Oct 2004 15:34 GMT
How about it someone started drinking (sugary) soda constantly? Could that rot
out your teeth in just six months?
W_B - 12 Oct 2004 15:46 GMT
>How about it someone started drinking (sugary) soda constantly? Could that rot
>out your teeth in just six months?

Likely.
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carabelli - 12 Oct 2004 15:49 GMT
> How about it someone started drinking (sugary) soda constantly? Could that rot
> out your teeth in just six months?

You can accomplish anything if you set your mind to it.

carabelli
Joel M. Eichen - 12 Oct 2004 16:05 GMT
>How about it someone started drinking (sugary) soda constantly? Could that rot
>out your teeth in just six months?

Surprisingly there are variables. As example, how fast the person
drinks ... are they a sipper or a slosher ...?
Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 16 Oct 2004 11:45 GMT
I'm not sure who posted the link to the Academy of General Dentistry article a
month or so ago, but is was an eye opener.
The study found that not only wasn't the sugar a problem with enamel immersed
in the soft drink, the pH didn't matter either.  What did matter was the drink
itself.  Canned Iced tea melted teeth nearly as fast as Mt. Dew, which was
worse than the cola products, which was worse than root beer, which was better
than water.  No kidding!
www.agd.org July/August 2004
>How about it someone started drinking (sugary) soda constantly? Could that
>rot
>out your teeth in just six months?

Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
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Dr Steve - 18 Oct 2004 17:21 GMT
It was the mixture of the different acids.

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> I'm not sure who posted the link to the Academy of General Dentistry
> article a
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Mrsralph - 19 Oct 2004 02:06 GMT
So what is it in canned iced tea and dew that makes them worse on teeth if it's
not sugar?
Thanks!

>Canned Iced tea melted teeth nearly as fast as Mt. Dew, which was
>worse than the cola products, which was worse than root beer, which was
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Dr Steve - 19 Oct 2004 13:36 GMT
The combination of 3-5 different acids.

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> So what is it in canned iced tea and dew that makes them worse on teeth if
> it's
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Mrsralph - 20 Oct 2004 04:38 GMT
Is it just iced tea that's bad for teeth? Because I've read more than once than
regular tea is good for teeth.

>The combination of 3-5 different acids.
Peter Meiers - 20 Oct 2004 05:47 GMT

> Is it just iced tea that's bad for teeth? Because I've read more than once than
> regular tea is good for teeth.
>
> >The combination of 3-5 different acids.

Tea usually has a lot of fluoride. Thererfore it is assumed to be good
for the teeth. On the other hand, if it really were, the top
tea-drinking nations (England, New Zealand,...) would have no need to
fluoridate their water.

Peter

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Dr. Steve - 20 Oct 2004 20:50 GMT
>Is it just iced tea that's bad for teeth? Because I've read more than once than
>regular tea is good for teeth.
>
>>The combination of 3-5 different acids.

Read the ingredients on a can of pre-made tea. Tell me if you add
those 4-6 different acids to your home brew. Acid does not occur
naturally in iced tea.
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

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Mrsralph - 21 Oct 2004 05:39 GMT
Which of these is worse for teeth - soda with sugar, chewing gum with sugar,
sucking candies with sugar, or iced tea/dew with the acid factor?
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Oct 2004 12:03 GMT
>Which of these is worse for teeth - soda with sugar, chewing gum with sugar,
>sucking candies with sugar, or iced tea/dew with the acid factor?

I say candy.

Soda goes down quick.

Joel
Mrsralph - 21 Oct 2004 18:44 GMT
>I say candy.
>
>Soda goes down quick.

Is candy worse than gum with sugar? Or are they pretty much equally bad for
teeth?
Dr Steve - 21 Oct 2004 20:10 GMT
If you swallow the candy whole, your teeth are not exposed to the sugar.

Commercially prepared drinks (soda-pop, Nestea, Gatorade, etc.) have a
mixture of potent acids that when mixed together will dissolve teeth if you
*sip* on them.

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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> >I say candy.
>>
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> for
> teeth?
W_B - 21 Oct 2004 20:21 GMT
>If you swallow the candy whole, your teeth are not exposed to the sugar.
>
>Commercially prepared drinks (soda-pop, Nestea, Gatorade, etc.) have a
>mixture of potent acids that when mixed together will dissolve teeth if you
>*sip* on them.

Swallow candy whole ?

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of eating candy ?

-Not a candy or soda imbiber
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Adenosine - 21 Oct 2004 20:25 GMT
>Swallow candy whole ?
>
>Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of eating candy ?
>
>-Not a candy or soda imbiber

I've seen my diabetic cousin do this. The candy isn't for sweet
tastes, it's for raising blood sugar level.

Adenosine
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Oct 2004 20:48 GMT
>>If you swallow the candy whole, your teeth are not exposed to the sugar.
>>
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>
>Swallow candy whole ?

I told you this newsgroup was interesting!

Joel

>Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of eating candy ?

Chug-A-Candy ......

>-Not a candy or soda imbiber
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Oct 2004 20:47 GMT
>If you swallow the candy whole, your teeth are not exposed to the sugar.

Some people down the cany through a small toilet paper tube which
prevents all decay. Then again, you might as well down spitballs .....
because it by-passes the taste buds too.

Joel

>Commercially prepared drinks (soda-pop, Nestea, Gatorade, etc.) have a
>mixture of potent acids that when mixed together will dissolve teeth if you
>*sip* on them.
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Oct 2004 20:46 GMT
>>I say candy.
>>
>>Soda goes down quick.
>
>Is candy worse than gum with sugar? Or are they pretty much equally bad for
>teeth?

Worse as there is much more sugar in candy. The gum sugar disappears
quickly.
 
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