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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / October 2004simplified teeth whitening w/hydrogen peroxide?
Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to say, 10-15% and use it as a rinse, holding it in the mouth for some set amount of time? Of course tooth/gum sensitivity would likely result, but that happens anyway with the gels used in trays, right? Thanks in advance for any info. It isnt clear hydrogenium.The concentration is important .The best is 10%.Its the rule -- if you are using higher % the result is faster but it lasts shorter. The home -used systems could be dangerous becouse of glum.Thats the reson so the bleaching tray is very important > Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it > be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > anyway with the gels used in trays, right? > Thanks in advance for any info. >It isnt clear hydrogenium. THAT STUIFF explodes. Ever see Von Hindenburg? >The concentration is important .The best is >10%.Its the rule -- if you are using higher % the result is faster but it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> anyway with the gels used in trays, right? >> Thanks in advance for any info. >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >anyway with the gels used in trays, right? >Thanks in advance for any info. Yeah, good idea. Sure. Try it on your finger first, and if you find a source let us know who sold it to you, Try for 60% H2O2 SuperOxol Good Luck Malasuerte, -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it > >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Good Luck Malasuerte, Here's a source: http://www.daigger.com/catalog/product?deptId=Chemicals&prodId=1283 >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >anyway with the gels used in trays, right? >Thanks in advance for any info. Yeah, go ahead and try that Jeffery. Hope that you have someone to take you to the ER Do let us know where you purchase 30% H2O2. That should be interesting. FOMF -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to >say, 10-15% and use it as a rinse, holding it in the mouth for some >set amount of time? Yeah, good idea... Let us know how it works out. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it > >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Let us know how it works out. Why get rushed to the ER? Don't the gels contain 15-20% hydrogen peroxide (or carbamide peroxide)? And they're left in for hours, sometimes overnight. >>>Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it >>>be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > peroxide (or carbamide peroxide)? And they're left in for hours, > sometimes overnight. We used to use Super Oxal (35% H2O2) mixed with sodium perborate to do internal bleaching. Very nasty, corrosive stuff. You shouldn't assume that because 15% carbamyl peroxide is relatively safe (btw, it is quite irritating to soft tissues) that 15% hydrogen peroxide is similarly safe. Steve  SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 > We used to use Super Oxal (35% H2O2) mixed with sodium perborate to do > internal bleaching. Very nasty, corrosive stuff. You shouldn't assume > that because 15% carbamyl peroxide is relatively safe (btw, it is quite > irritating to soft tissues) that 15% hydrogen peroxide is similarly safe. > > Steve What do you mean 'used to...'? Don't you guys do walking bleaches anymore? Jes' Wonderin' SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Don't you guys do walking bleaches >anymore? >Jes' Wonderin' We do walkin' a.s whuppins on a regular basis. Would you like one ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > We do walkin' a.s whuppins on a regular basis. > > Would you like one ? > > -- > W_B ...HhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmM... Wood it whiten my remaining three teeth???? That's one Upper Central, one Lower Left Canine and one Lower Right Second Premolar.... Ah'm tyred o' flossin' all them teeth ever' day..... Jes' Wonderin' SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >> We used to use Super Oxal (35% H2O2) mixed with sodium perborate to do >>internal bleaching. Very nasty, corrosive stuff. You shouldn't assume [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Jes' Wonderin' > SP I don't know when I last did any non-vital bleaching. My results weren't good enough to overcome my fear of apical resorption if my seal isn't perfect. Steve > I don't know when I last did any non-vital bleaching. My results > weren't good enough to overcome my fear of apical resorption if my seal > isn't perfect. > > Steve I use Geristore after etching and bonding. It's surely hell to get thru if you decide to put in a post afterwards, but I think a GIC product is mandatory to seal the canal. FWIW, I asked the Local Endo Guy about this, and he said there are no statistics on the incidence of external root resorption induced by walking or chairside bleaching, but the incidence would be quite low in any case. Also, FWIW, one thing you can try is to refer your patient to a local dentist who has a hard tissue laser and have them take out all the stained stuff. Then you can fill the access cavity and do an external bleach with a tray or in-house. If you have access to Endo-Cal, you can put some of that in the access cavity and seal it in with GIC and let that work for a few weeks. After all, that is just CaO-Ca(OH)2 and I don't think it will cause the same problem as H2O2 does. Just a suggestion SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >> I don't know when I last did any non-vital bleaching. My results >>weren't good enough to overcome my fear of apical resorption if my seal [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Just a suggestion > SP Interesting idea--I'll look into it. Steve overnight ?! It makes hypersensitivity.Dont do that. 2 hours a day 10 % Its enough. Home made bleaching stuff seems to me dangerous and the way of application even more >> >Since most teeth whitening systems use hydrogen peroxide, wouldn't it >> >be effective to simple buy some 30% hp, cut it with water down to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > peroxide (or carbamide peroxide)? And they're left in for hours, > sometimes overnight. |
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