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Jan - 29 Sep 2004 06:25 GMT Why We Use No Mercury in the Fillings We Place:
Composite resin fillings contain no mercury. They are bonded to the tooth and therefore help prevent fractures of teeth. Amalgam (silver) fillings expand and contract differently than tooth structure, and crack and break the teeth they're in.
Composite fillings can be contoured to the exact bite, are readily repairable, and look absolutely fantastic! On the downside, they are much more time consuming to place, and so are more expensive, and some insurance companies do not pay well for them.
Did you know that the silver fillings in your teeth contains more than 50% of the toxic element, Mercury? The argument rages as to whether that mercury is bound, and therefore inert, or actively liberated as mercury vapor which can then be absorbed into body tissues throughout the life of the filling. Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern alternatives that can be considered.
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The known effects of mercury toxicity include deterioration of the immune system, the neurologic system, and the reproductive system. While I do not profess to be an expert on the scientific evidence which I have become familiar with, I made a choice many years ago, after having read a scientific article which indicated there was suppression in the immune system of monkeys in the experimental group (which had recently undergone amalgam filling placement), while the control group remained normal. The American Dental Association's response was to state that "this research was done on monkeys not humans, and therefore has no relevance." At that point, I asked myself what the American Dental Associations was trying to cover-up?
Many dentists who have read this page have asked me why I suspected a cover-up? It is incongruous to me that the American Dental Association tells us that mercury-amalgam is safe in our patient's mouths, that once the silver and mercury have hardened, there is no significant mercury vapor liberated from the filling. In the same breath, they ask us to store all unused amalgam in a sealed glass jar, with the scrap metals underwater. So that makes two places amalgam is safe, in your mouth, and underwater...sealed jar! Is it any wonder that Scandinavia and Germany, and most recently Canada have curtailed or banned the use of amalgam? They provide no scientific research to verify this, other than the Public Health Service study done earlier in this decade. They fail to state that this study on the safety of mercury indicated that further research was necessary before any conclusions could be reached.
In July 2000, a Maryland judge opened the door for all dentists to be able to fairly discuss the fact that silver fillings are really mercury fillings (50% by make up) by blocking the Maryland Dental Board from gagging dentists who discuss the risks of mercury. Dentists around the nation have been blocked and sanctioned by their state boards, and the ADA from explaining the risks of mercury fillings. (read more = click here) Several years ago, in an advertisement, I wrote "we do not use the toxic substance mercury in any of the fillings we place." The NJ State Board of Dentistry fined me $500 for false and misleading advertising. When I provided them with a copy of the NJ Environmental Protection Agency's treatise on the subject of mercury toxicity, they backed down.
What is the ADA trying to cover up? I can only guess that they have been endorsing the safety of mercury amalgam for so long, that a reversal of position would create widespread fear in the public eye, and reversal of trust with the profession. The inexorable fact remains that many foreign governments' regulatory agencies have banned the use of amalgam all together, or in pregnant women and children under the age of 18.
How we contain the environmental risks With that evidence present, I have chosen to be extremely careful, not just in placing amalgam in patients mouths, but in the removal of old amalgam fillings I am proud to announce that our new office is now equipped with special filters that remove mercury waste from our drain lines, before it can get into the sewer system (and the environment). We are one of only two offices in NJ that are taking this extra step to protect the environment, and to put our money where our mouth is. It costs us substantially extra each month to do this, and therefore other practices will be slow to jump on this bandwagon, and, surprisingly, there are no regulations requiring dentists in the US to trap mercury from waste water. There are, however, over 50,000 such installations in Europe (many of which were mandated by governments). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----
Links to Internet Sites which will help explain why we use no Mercury-Amalgam in our Practice The Australian perspective. Restrictions on the use of Mercury Amalgam in Canada - the Health Canada Report The British perspective Deleted Mercury / Amalgam FAQ's Mercury Amalgam Safety Bioprobe - links for people with Multiple Sclerosis and link between heart disease and mercury. American Dental Association Please pay special attention to the extensive list of references on their web site! U. of NH researcher dies of mercury exposure Recently, the Journal of the New Jersey Dental Association reported that they had proof that amalgam is safe.
JWN DDS - 29 Sep 2004 08:51 GMT > Why We Use No Mercury > in the Fillings We Place: Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to?
John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 11:44 GMT >Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern alternatives that can be considered.
Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we consider?
>> Why We Use No Mercury >> in the Fillings We Place: > > Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to? Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 13:46 GMT >>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern >alternatives that can be considered. > >Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >consider? Ahahhhh, that explains the taste!
Thanks,
Joel
>>> Why We Use No Mercury >>> in the Fillings We Place: >> >> Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to? Steven Bornfeld - 29 Sep 2004 13:51 GMT >>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern > > alternatives that can be considered. > > Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we > consider? Gatorade?
Steve
>>>Why We Use No Mercury >>>in the Fillings We Place: >> >>Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to? Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 15:52 GMT >>>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Gatorade? Gators are 400 Billion years old too ,, ,wait, that's dinosaurs .......
>Steve > >>>>Why We Use No Mercury >>>>in the Fillings We Place: >>> >>>Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to? Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2004 17:57 GMT >>> Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >>> consider? >> >>Gatorade? > >Gators are 400 Billion years old too ,, ,wait, that's dinosaurs No. That is at least 8 universes.
Reminds me of the old story about the physics professor, who was feared by his students because of his very tough questions. But it was said, that he would not ask many questions - perhaps only two :
Explain the universe. Give two examples.
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Jan - 29 Sep 2004 16:21 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: Steven Bornfeld dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net >Date: 9/29/2004 7:51 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <415AAFB5.60307@earthlink.net>
>>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>> >>>Hygienists are placing fillings now? What is this world coming to? All jokes are noted.
It is not a joking matter.
Jan
Why We Use No Mercury in the Fillings We Place:
Composite resin fillings contain no mercury. They are bonded to the tooth and therefore help prevent fractures of teeth. Amalgam (silver) fillings expand and contract differently than tooth structure, and crack and break the teeth they're in.
Composite fillings can be contoured to the exact bite, are readily repairable, and look absolutely fantastic! On the downside, they are much more time consuming to place, and so are more expensive, and some insurance companies do not pay well for them.
Did you know that the silver fillings in your teeth contains more than 50% of the toxic element, Mercury? The argument rages as to whether that mercury is bound, and therefore inert, or actively liberated as mercury vapor which can then be absorbed into body tissues throughout the life of the filling. Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern alternatives that can be considered.
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The known effects of mercury toxicity include deterioration of the immune system, the neurologic system, and the reproductive system. While I do not profess to be an expert on the scientific evidence which I have become familiar with, I made a choice many years ago, after having read a scientific article which indicated there was suppression in the immune system of monkeys in the experimental group (which had recently undergone amalgam filling placement), while the control group remained normal. The American Dental Association's response was to state that "this research was done on monkeys not humans, and therefore has no relevance." At that point, I asked myself what the American Dental Associations was trying to cover-up?
Many dentists who have read this page have asked me why I suspected a cover-up? It is incongruous to me that the American Dental Association tells us that mercury-amalgam is safe in our patient's mouths, that once the silver and mercury have hardened, there is no significant mercury vapor liberated from the filling. In the same breath, they ask us to store all unused amalgam in a sealed glass jar, with the scrap metals underwater. So that makes two places amalgam is safe, in your mouth, and underwater...sealed jar! Is it any wonder that Scandinavia and Germany, and most recently Canada have curtailed or banned the use of amalgam? They provide no scientific research to verify this, other than the Public Health Service study done earlier in this decade. They fail to state that this study on the safety of mercury indicated that further research was necessary before any conclusions could be reached.
In July 2000, a Maryland judge opened the door for all dentists to be able to fairly discuss the fact that silver fillings are really mercury fillings (50% by make up) by blocking the Maryland Dental Board from gagging dentists who discuss the risks of mercury. Dentists around the nation have been blocked and sanctioned by their state boards, and the ADA from explaining the risks of mercury fillings. (read more = click here) Several years ago, in an advertisement, I wrote "we do not use the toxic substance mercury in any of the fillings we place." The NJ State Board of Dentistry fined me $500 for false and misleading advertising. When I provided them with a copy of the NJ Environmental Protection Agency's treatise on the subject of mercury toxicity, they backed down.
What is the ADA trying to cover up? I can only guess that they have been endorsing the safety of mercury amalgam for so long, that a reversal of position would create widespread fear in the public eye, and reversal of trust with the profession. The inexorable fact remains that many foreign governments' regulatory agencies have banned the use of amalgam all together, or in pregnant women and children under the age of 18.
How we contain the environmental risks With that evidence present, I have chosen to be extremely careful, not just in placing amalgam in patients mouths, but in the removal of old amalgam fillings I am proud to announce that our new office is now equipped with special filters that remove mercury waste from our drain lines, before it can get into the sewer system (and the environment). We are one of only two offices in NJ that are taking this extra step to protect the environment, and to put our money where our mouth is. It costs us substantially extra each month to do this, and therefore other practices will be slow to jump on this bandwagon, and, surprisingly, there are no regulations requiring dentists in the US to trap mercury from waste water. There are, however, over 50,000 such installations in Europe (many of which were mandated by governments). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----
Links to Internet Sites which will help explain why we use no Mercury-Amalgam in our Practice The Australian perspective. Restrictions on the use of Mercury Amalgam in Canada - the Health Canada Report The British perspective Deleted Mercury / Amalgam FAQ's Mercury Amalgam Safety Bioprobe - links for people with Multiple Sclerosis and link between heart disease and mercury. American Dental Association Please pay special attention to the extensive list of references on their web site! U. of NH researcher dies of mercury exposure Recently, the Journal of the New Jersey Dental Association reported that they had proof that amalgam is safe.
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 17:55 GMT >All jokes are noted. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Why We Use No Mercury >in the Fillings We Place: NOTED AND DELETED!
Joel
Jan - 29 Sep 2004 16:18 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Water Is not the subject.
John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 17:38 GMT And because its 150 years old is no reason to change it.
> >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Is not the subject. Jan - 30 Sep 2004 02:12 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 9/29/2004 11:38 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <cjeof1$ql2$1@hercules.btinternet.com> > >And because its 150 years old is no reason to change it. http://www.yourhealthbase.com/amalgams.html
eer of the Realm questions use of amalgam fillings LONDON, ENGLAND. Lord Baldwin, joint chairman of the British Parliamentary Group for Alternative and Complementary Medicine, is questioning the safety of amalgam dental fillings. In a letter published in the British Medical Journal Lord Baldwin asserts that it is up to the dental profession to prove that amalgam fillings are safe and, in Lord Baldwin's opinion, this they have not done. To point to the fact that amalgam fillings have been used for a hundred years is not a proof of safety anymore than it is to claim that tobacco smoking must be safe because people have been doing it for a long time, says Lord Baldwin. Baldwin, E.A.A. Controlled trials of dental amalgam are needed. British Medical Journal, Vol. 309, October 29, 1994, p. 1161
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 11:09 GMT >Lord Baldwin asserts that it is up to the dental profession to prove that >amalgam fillings are safe and, in Lord Baldwin's opinion, this they have not >done. JanHumor above .......
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 17:55 GMT >>Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Is not the subject. About as harmful as mercury in fillings ......
Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2004 18:00 GMT >>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern >alternatives that can be considered. > >Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >consider? Dear Mr. Chewter,
I disagree.
a) The whole universe exists for about 13.5 billion years since the big bang.
b) Water is an essential ingredient of the human body. Mercury is NOWHERE part of a living body or its metabolism.
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John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 17:39 GMT It is a natural part of Tuna fish's body.
>>>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many >>>modern [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Aribert Deckers Jan - 30 Sep 2004 02:25 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 9/29/2004 11:39 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <cjeogq$4nd$1@sparta.btinternet.com> > >It is a natural part of Tuna fish's body. The warnings are clear.
Get updated.
Happy Oyster - 03 Oct 2004 23:25 GMT >It is a natural part of Tuna fish's body. Part : yes. Natural : no.
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John Chewter - 04 Oct 2004 14:06 GMT Not what I read.
>>It is a natural part of Tuna fish's body. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Aribert Deckers John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 17:52 GMT Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe
"In a study published today in the journal Science, a team of researchers says the universe is between 11.2 billion and 20 billion years old." January 2003
Another source gave it as 4004 BCE (if the word of God is anything to go by)
Anyway I estimate that based on reasonable assumptions, it has it may have been around for at least 151 years.
Because its has been around does for a while does not infer that anything newer is better.
My house is made of brick - a technology millennia old - it still works.
I tried replacing the water in my blood plasma with ethylene alcohol. Well at least I didn't freeze at 0 deg C
>>>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many >>>modern [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Aribert Deckers Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 18:13 GMT >Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Another source gave it as 4004 BCE (if the word of God is anything to go by) *******************************************************
BISHOP USSHER DATES THE WORLD: 4004 BC James Ussher (1581-1656), Archbishop of Armagh, Primate of All Ireland, and Vice-Chancellor of Trinity College in Dublin was highly regarded in his day as a churchman and as a scholar. Of his many works, his treatise on chronology has proved the most durable. Based on an intricate correlation of Middle Eastern and Mediterranean histories and Holy writ, it was incorporated into an authorized version of the Bible printed in 1701, and thus came to be regarded with almost as much unquestioning reverence as the Bible itself. Having established the first day of creation as Sunday 23 October 4004 BC, by the arguments set forth in the passage below, Ussher calculated the dates of other biblical events, concluding, for example, that Adam and Eve were driven from Paradise on Monday 10 November 4004 BC, and that the ark touched down on Mt Ararat on 5 May 2348 BC `on a Wednesday'.
Craig, G. Y. and E. J. Jones. A Geological Miscellany. Princeton University Press, 1982. Ussher's spellings have been faithfully kept in the following excerpt. AE is a ligature. For as much as our Christian epoch falls many ages after the beginning of the world, and the number of years before that backward is not only more troublesome, but (unless greater care be taken) more lyable to errour; also it hath pleased our modern chronologers, to adde to that generally received hypothesis (which asserted the Julian years, with their three cycles by a certain mathematical prolepsis, to have run down to the very beginning of the world) an artificial epoch, framed out of three cycles multiplied in themselves; for the Solar Cicle being multiplied by the Lunar, or the number of 28 by 19, produces the great Paschal Cycle of 532 years, and that again multiplied by fifteen, the number of the indiction, there arises the period of 7980 years, which was first (if I mistake not) observed by Robert Lotharing, Bishop of Hereford, in our island of Britain, and 500 years after by Joseph Scaliger fitted for chronological uses, and called by the name of the Julian Period, because it conteined a cycle of so many Julian years. Now if the series of the three minor cicles be from this present year extended backward unto precedent times, the 4713 years before the beginning of our Christian account will be found to be that year into which the first year of the indiction, the first of the Lunar Cicle, and the first of the Solar will fall. Having placed there fore the heads of this period in the kalends of January in that proleptick year, the first of our Christian vulgar account must be reckoned the 4714 of the Julian Period, which, being divided by 15. 19. 28. will present us with the 4 Roman indiction, the 2 Lunar Cycle, and the 10 Solar, which are the principal characters of that year.
We find moreover that the year of our fore-fathers, and the years of the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews were of the same quantity with the Julian, consisting of twelve equal moneths, every of them conteining 30 days, (for it cannot be proved that the Hebrews did use lunary moneths before the Babylonian Captivity) adjoying to the end of the twelfth moneth, the addition of five dayes, and every four year six. And I have observed by the continued succession of these years, as they are delivered in holy writ, that the end of the great Nebuchadnezars and the beginning of Evilmerodachs (his sons) reign, fell out in the 3442 year of the world, but by collation of Chaldean history and the astronomical cannon, it fell out in the 186 year c Nabonasar, and, as by certain connexion, it must follow in the 562 year before the Christian account, and of the Julian Period, the 4152. and from thence I gathered the creation of the world did fall out upon the 710 year of the Julian Period, by placing its beginning in autumn: but for as much as the first day of the world began with the evening of the first day of the week, I have observed that the Sunday, which in the year 710 aforesaid came nearest the Autumnal AEquinox, by astronomical tables (notwithstanding the stay of the sun in the dayes of Joshua, and the going back of it in the dayes c Ezekiah) happened upon the 23 day of the Julian October; from thence concluded that from the evening preceding that first day of the Julian year, both the first day of the creation and the first motion of time are to be deduced.
J. Ussher, The Annals of the World iv (1658)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above excerpt makes no mention of the time of day at which creation occurred. In popular references one often finds it given as 9 A.M., and this is wrongly attributed to Ussher. The following excerpt from Andrew D. White's book A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (D. Appleton and Co., 1897, p. 9) identifies the culprit as Sir John Lightfoot:
...the general conclusion arrived at by an overwhelming majority of the most competent students of the biblical accounts was that the date of creation was, in round numbers, four thousand years before our era; and in the seventeenth century, in his great work, Dr. John Lightfoot, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge, and one of the most eminent Hebrew scholars of his time, declared, as the result of his most profound and exhaustive study of the Scriptures, that "heaven and earth, centre and circumference, were created all together, in the same instant, and clouds full of water," and that "this work took place and man was created by the Trinity on October 23, 4004 B.C., at nine o'clock in the morning." John Lightfoot (1602-1675), Vice-Chancellor of Cambridge University was a contemporary of Ussher. Lightfoot published his calculations in 1644, before Ussher's were completed. For a more complete account, and a picture of Bishop Ussher, see: From Ussher to Slusher, from Archbish to Gish: or not in a million years..." by Colin Groves. This chapter is from his Archaeology in Oceania 31 (1996) 145-151.
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Advocate147 - 30 Sep 2004 13:02 GMT The age of the universe is between ll.2 billion and 20 billion years old. Another source gave it as 4004 BCE (if the word of G-d is anything to go by)
A good one to ponder on forever. Dinosaurs predated the bible, did they not. And there is proof they existed?They are in the Field Museum here. And their eras of existence is completely nonunderstandable. and what about the pictures of man holding a big stick and looking like an animal. When was he and was he ever? Absolute proof is as evasive as crohns illness and just as mysterious. But crohns is a more urgent matter.
Gail
Gail
Advocate147 - 30 Sep 2004 13:10 GMT To go a little further, the universe. Science vs. the bible and miracles therein. So science cannot always explain everything. Therefore this does not rule out my theory on crohns as unscientific. Miracles, good and bad do happen, if one can believe the bible. The crohns dilemna does not belong here, and it belongs everywhere. (Everywhere I write).
Gail
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 16:19 GMT >To go a little further, the universe. Science vs. the bible and miracles >therein. Surprisingly, I am awestruck by the conceptual basis of creation as described in Genesis ....... compared with the latest Big Bang theory ........
Sure there are errors, but conceptually, no one could have simply guessed and got it so correct.
Joel
>So science cannot always explain everything. Therefore this does not rule out >my theory on crohns as unscientific. Miracles, good and bad do happen, if one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Gail Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 16:16 GMT >The age of the universe is between ll.2 billion and 20 billion years old. >Another source gave it as 4004 BCE (if the word of G-d is anything to go by) Around 16.8 billion if PBS was correct last evening .......
GREAT show on cosmology .........
(not cosmetology .. that is what we dentists do).
Joel
>A good one to ponder on forever. >Dinosaurs predated the bible, did they not. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Gail Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 16:18 GMT >The age of the universe is between ll.2 billion and 20 billion years old. >Another source gave it as 4004 BCE (if the word of G-d is anything to go by) > >A good one to ponder on forever. >Dinosaurs predated the bible, did they not. By 20 to thirty years .......
>And there is proof they existed?They are in the Field Museum here. Nah, its God foolin' witchya.
So I am told .......
He plants dinosaur bones to trick you.
> And their >eras of existence is completely nonunderstandable. and what about the >pictures of man holding a big stick and looking like an animal. When was he >and was he ever? >Absolute proof is as evasive as crohns illness and just as mysterious. >But crohns is a more urgent matter. What does God say about Crohn's ......?
Joel
>Gail > >Gail Advocate147 - 01 Oct 2004 01:41 GMT G-d is pretty silent on the subject of crohns. HE planted it mysteriously, if he did and said, no one shall figure this one out, and it is a good mechanism to curtail the population without anyone being the wiser. I am a little deaf, but this I heard loud and clear. It is the stimulants that do the damage and everyone loves stimulants so what better choice could be had. And gail is the chosen one to know this, and what better choice could he have to have the theory ignored. Well if there is an answer to this, it will remain a secret until the science talk is given up. Like in the bible, it has to be taken on faith. Any believers. still waiting.
Gail
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 18:13 GMT So amalgam came out in year 1 ???
> it has it may have >been around for at least 151 years. carabelli - 29 Sep 2004 19:05 GMT > Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe > > "In a study published today in the journal Science, a team of researchers > says the universe is between 11.2 billion and 20 billion years old." .............
Ask Joel, he was in high school then.
carabelli
John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 19:26 GMT It was spooky that Jesus was born on Xmas day wasn't it?
>> Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > carabelli Dr Steve - 29 Sep 2004 19:42 GMT I thought some scholars argued the event actually occurred in June?
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> It was spooky that Jesus was born on Xmas day wasn't it? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> carabelli John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 20:57 GMT Wow - its so cool to Not be born on your birthday! Heh!
>I thought some scholars argued the event actually occurred in June? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> >>> carabelli Dr Steve - 30 Sep 2004 12:01 GMT Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. [Chanukah]
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> Wow - its so cool to Not be born on your birthday! Heh! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>> >>>> carabelli John Chewter - 30 Sep 2004 14:04 GMT I am surprised because the shops are so busy in December.........
> Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. > [Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>>> >>>>> carabelli Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 16:22 GMT >I am surprised because the shops are so busy in December......... Has to do with Christmas .... I believe ......
>> Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >> [Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> carabelli Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 16:22 GMT >Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >[Chanukah] I agree with the former but what is the (Chanukah) at the end?
People of the Jewish faith do not exchange presents or anything like that ,,,,,,,,,,
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 30 Sep 2004 17:14 GMT >>Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >>[Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > People of the Jewish faith do not exchange presents or anything like > that ,,,,,,,,,, Is that what you told your sons when they were little?
Steve
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Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 17:29 GMT >>>Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >>>[Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Steve NO I did exchange presents, eight of them, but Chanukah is a very minor Holy Day ......
Very much so ......
In fact, the entire idea of slaying someone for their religious precepts as Mattathias did goes against everything I stand for .....
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 30 Sep 2004 19:03 GMT >>>>Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >>>>[Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > In fact, the entire idea of slaying someone for their religious > precepts as Mattathias did goes against everything I stand for ..... What about that high-efficiency oil lamp? Couldn't we use some of that stuff today?
Steve
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Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 19:49 GMT >>>>>Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >>>>>[Chanukah] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Steve Good one!
I envision a modern day parable would include "we thought the parking meter would expire after one hour, but lo! and behold! It lasted EIGHT hours ...... until we got done with our shopping!"
Joel
W_B - 01 Oct 2004 21:02 GMT >Many scholars say December was chosen early on as a marketing effort. >[Chanukah] Didn't think that you were that jaded.
News to me.
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Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 22:06 GMT >I thought some scholars argued the event actually occurred in June? I think it did.
PS- I was not in high school then.
Joel
W_B - 29 Sep 2004 21:42 GMT >> Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >carabelli No, it was element-ary school. --
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 22:05 GMT >> Ok I was wrong about age of (this) universe >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >carabelli Do not laugh. I was in high school when they launched Sputnik!
Jan - 30 Sep 2004 02:29 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 9/29/2004 11:52 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <cjep8n$d4v$1@titan.btinternet.com>
>Anyway I estimate that based on reasonable assumptions, it has it may have >been around for at least 151 years. > >Because its has been around does for a while does not infer that anything >newer is better. It never should have been used period.
http://www.wholisticresearch.com/info/artshow.php3?artid=20
The Mercury Papers by Stephen Macallan, MBAcC, MAMH (The Most Expensive Medical Mistake in The History of The World)
The History of Mercury Amalgam
In the early 1800s French dentists successfully (sic) mixed mercury with other metals and plugged the mixture into cavities in teeth. These early mixtures contained relatively small amounts of mercury and required heat to enable the metals to bind together. In 1819 Benjamin Bell in England developed an amalgam mix with much more mercury in it that enabled the metals to bind at room temperature. Back in France in 1826 Taveau produced a similar formulation and then in the 1830's the amalgam concept was introduced in America. Many American dentists denounced amalgam use on account of the toxic nature of mercury and when the American Society of Dental Surgeons was formed in 1840 its' members were required to sign a pledge never to use mercury amalgam on account of its great toxicity. The pledge was abandoned within five years! (Curious historical note No1. Quick silver is a common name for mercury, both here and in Germany, and the 'quick' in German is pronounced quack, thus amalgam-using dentists became known as quacks - a term which has come to mean an inept and fraudulent medic - perhaps amalgam-using dentists should still be called quacks).
In 1848 the Society found 11 of its' members guilty of "..malpractice...for using amalgam.." and suspended them. The arguments raged on, then, as now, until finally the god won - money that is, and the A.S.D.S. dissolved in chaos in 1856. There was a lot of profit in amalgam fillings, cheap to make and easy to use, compared with gold, expensive and technically more difficult. The American Dental Association took its' place and cunningly, did not take a stand on the amalgam issue, allowing market forces to prevail until about 1895. The Encyclopaedia Britannica reports "that amalgams were not altogether in good repute until after 1895", by which time the A.D.A. was supporting the use of amalgam.
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 11:10 GMT >It never should have been used period. There you have it ,,, Lord Baldwin, Dr. Schimmelweiss, and Jan all agree .......
ChuckMSRD - 30 Sep 2004 10:41 GMT >Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >consider? H2O is an essemtial nutrient. Amalgam, I dont think so!
Chuck
John Chewter - 30 Sep 2004 12:27 GMT I see irony is still lost on Americans ;)
> >Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >>consider? > > H2O is an essemtial nutrient. Amalgam, I dont think so! > > Chuck Jan - 01 Oct 2004 06:41 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 9/30/2004 6:27 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <cjgqim$914$1@hercules.btinternet.com> > >I see irony is still lost on Americans ;) Always an excuse, comlete stupid diversion, so you don't have to face facts.
John Chewter - 01 Oct 2004 11:16 GMT You just did it again :D
> >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Always an excuse, comlete stupid diversion, so you don't have to face > facts. Joel M. Eichen - 01 Oct 2004 13:20 GMT >>Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Always an excuse, comlete stupid diversion, so you don't have to face facts. Jan, stop taking Vioxx. The warning came out yesterday.
The REAL warning that is, not the fake amalgam warning that you guys put out in 1997.
Joel
W_B - 01 Oct 2004 21:16 GMT >I see irony is still lost on Americans ;) Not all of us.
How dare you group me within the masses !?!?
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
W_B - 01 Oct 2004 16:54 GMT >>Water is more than 400 Billion Years old - what alternative should we >>consider? > >H2O is an essemtial nutrient. Amalgam, I dont think so! > >Chuck What does "essemtial" mean ?
Is that in your new "Hatfield & McCoy's Redneck Dictionary" ? "Words you need to git-'er-done."
Chuck(msrp) you truly are a world-class fool. --
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Jan - 01 Oct 2004 21:07 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net <snip>
>Chuck(msrp) you truly are a world-class fool. Personal attacking of people who have had mercury poisoning.
John Chewter - 01 Oct 2004 22:22 GMT Do you ever read the posts before replying?
> >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Personal attacking of people who have had mercury poisoning. Joel M. Eichen - 01 Oct 2004 23:11 GMT >>Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Personal attacking of people who have had mercury poisoning. The warning is out for Vioxx. The Break Dancing crowd in Florida uses tons of Vioxx. It is 25 mg or 25,000 micrograms per pill.
Mercury fillings are 27 micrograms ..... per tooth.
ChuckMSRD - 02 Oct 2004 13:06 GMT >Chuck(msrp) you truly are a world-class fool. >-- > >W_B Who RU the spelling police? f.ck You WB!
W_B - 02 Oct 2004 19:16 GMT >>Chuck(msrp) you truly are a world-class fool. >>-- >> >>W_B > >Who RU the spelling police? f.ck You WB! The last SOB that said that to my face is now in an unmarked grave.
I don't think you have the stones to take me on, BIATCH !!!
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
John Chewter - 02 Oct 2004 21:19 GMT Tell me W_B - have you any amalgam fillings that would explain this irrational aggression?
cc Jan Drew cc Flat Earth Society
<fuse lit>
>>>Chuck(msrp) you truly are a world-class fool. >>>-- [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE W_B - 02 Oct 2004 21:37 GMT Ummm, well... maybe
Agrresive is normal for me.
Irrational ? well that's only occasional.
Do you have anymore questions ?
cc Is the Earth a Sphere ? groupers. cc Oceans Among Us.
>Tell me W_B - have you any amalgam fillings that would explain this >irrational aggression? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> Take out the G'RBAGE -- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
John Chewter - 03 Oct 2004 06:26 GMT Yes, How big is God?
> Ummm, well... maybe > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE W_B - 03 Oct 2004 14:23 GMT My mind is to small to contemplate the question.
>Yes, How big is God? > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> Take out the G'RBAGE -- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 03 Oct 2004 15:37 GMT >My mind is to small to contemplate the question. I would think seven possibly eight feet tall .....
>>Yes, How big is God? >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>> Take out the G'RBAGE ChuckMSRD - 02 Oct 2004 22:07 GMT >The last SOB that said that to my face is now in an unmarked grave. >WB Probably from your breath. I bet you sleep real well at night knowing that you have implanted mercury into hundreds, if not thousands of mouths. Depending on their genetic susceptibility, medical conditions, exacerbating factors, that minute, yet chronic exposure will effect each to some extent at the cellular level. Great job "Doc".
Chuck
W_B - 02 Oct 2004 22:16 GMT >>The last SOB that said that to my face is now in an unmarked grave. >>WB [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Chuck Well Charlie, you should go back to w.nking since you are so inept at critical scientific thinking.
Your lack of experimental evidence is so obvious to all who read your bloviating posts makes you a very entertaining clown.
Thanks for the laughs, Charles...(msrp).
AdHominem attacks noted. Reply when you have a real argument.
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
Clinton C Zimmerman - 03 Oct 2004 06:44 GMT > >their genetic susceptibility, medical conditions, exacerbating factors, that > >minute, yet chronic exposure will effect each to some extent at the cellular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Reply when you have a real argument. WB, Ever heard of Lowell Y ?
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 13:44 GMT >Why We Use No Mercury >in the Fillings We Place: We do not.
Mercury is a relic from the past.
Jan, what are you talking about?
Joel
>Composite resin fillings contain no mercury. They are bonded to the tooth >and therefore help prevent fractures of teeth. Amalgam (silver) fillings [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >New Jersey Dental Association reported that they had proof that amalgam is >safe. Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2004 17:57 GMT >>Why We Use No Mercury >>in the Fillings We Place: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Jan, what are you talking about? Well, Joel, THIS sounds great. When did you give up using dental amalgam ?
Regards,
Aribert
 Signature Ich klage an: Schwerer Pfusch bei Knie-Behandlungen
http://www.ariplex.com/hws/hws_knie.htm
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 17:56 GMT >>>Why We Use No Mercury >>>in the Fillings We Place: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Well, Joel, THIS sounds great. When did you give up using dental >amalgam ? Because I am retired!
Joel
>Regards, > >Aribert Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 13:45 GMT >Why We Use No Mercury >in the Fillings We Place: Jan, perhaps we can recommend a better dentist for you .....
Joel
>Composite resin fillings contain no mercury. They are bonded to the tooth >and therefore help prevent fractures of teeth. Amalgam (silver) fillings [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >New Jersey Dental Association reported that they had proof that amalgam is >safe. Happy Oyster - 29 Sep 2004 17:57 GMT >>Why We Use No Mercury >>in the Fillings We Place: > >Jan, perhaps we can recommend a better dentist for you ..... I'm afraid, that won't cure malbrainia gravis...
Regards,
Aribert Deckers
 Signature Ich klage an: Schwerer Pfusch bei Knie-Behandlungen
http://www.ariplex.com/hws/hws_knie.htm
John Chewter - 29 Sep 2004 17:40 GMT It might get her better advice tho'
>>>Why We Use No Mercury >>>in the Fillings We Place: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Aribert Deckers Jan - 30 Sep 2004 02:23 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 9/29/2004 11:40 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <cjeoil$bpq$1@titan.btinternet.com> > >It might get her better advice tho' http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2001_Nov/ai_79757257
The Evils of Dentistry - Tooth Truth - Review Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Nov, 2001 by Roy B. Kupsinel Save a personal copy of this article and quickly find it again with Furl.net. Get started now. (It's free.)Tooth Truth
by Frank J. Jerome, DDS
[C]1995 and 2000. Available from Tooth Truth, 639 Washington Street, Columbus, Indiana 47201 USA; 812-376-8525
As I glance to my right I see in the bookcase Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price, DDS. This classic health book is one that I read several years ago. Along with others, I have gone on record as stating that it should be read by all medical and dental students, physicians and dentists. I have just recently completed reading Tooth Truth by Frank Jerome, DDS. I wish to add this masterpiece to my recommendation as a most practical book and extend the reading invitation also to the truth-seeking lay person -- the potential patient.
In 1992 I wrote and published in Health Consciousness magazine, "Tooth Truths," the story from my teenage years of my root canal tooth and its effect on my health and life. If I only knew then what Frank is teaching now in his Tooth Truth! There would have been no root canal. My experience is only a drop in the fountain of knowledge presented in Tooth Truth. I have learned through my 72 years that people function at different levels of health consciousness. Those seeking a higher level of awareness educate themselves. The next step is often difficult for many to take. Procrastination and resistance may interfere with growth. This step is to weigh information about a specific issue, then make an intelligent choice and take positive action.
Dr. Jerome's writings are like a one-on-one personal talk with you. He writes clearly and comprehensively and tells it like it is. With his revelations and criticisms of conventional dentistry, I did not feel any hostility towards the dental profession. He is to be commended for speaking out about dentistry, including secrets that your dentist does not want you to know. He is a brave man to put his professional life on the line with the dental establishment as he speaks out against much of organized dentistry.
Dentistry is controlled by the American Dental Association, just like my profession of medicine is by the American Medical Association. When a dentist follows the rules and regulations of the ADA he is unlikely to get into any trouble. Amalgam fillings, crowns and root canals are the bread and butter for the dentist. Many dentists are driven first by economics and not by serving the best interests of the patient. Also, the level of competence varies among dentists. Some are truly incompetent! They create problems by damaging the patient's teeth and cover it up with subsequent dental work that generates more income for the dentist and more expense for the patient. Organized dentistry is unlikely to voluntarily change its ways. It is up to us, the patients, to bring pressure on the dental profession to raise their consciousness to make changes.
When I had my root canal at age sixteen, I had been taught and had ingrained in my belief system that any tooth is worth saving. Dr. Jerome questions if saving any tooth is worth damaging your immune system. Dogma is powerful Dr. Jerome has covered all the bases -- all the phases of dentistry, including the economics, insurance, toxicology, procedures and prevention.
I have been involved as a student of the alternatives in dentistry for about 20 years and incorporate my knowledge in my own health care as well as my patients. Dr. Jerome has expanded my consciousness -- awareness, understanding and knowledge -- and he will do the same for you as you read Tooth Truth.
1. It is most important for the individual to take responsibility for his health.
2. It is okay to ask the dentist "why" and if you don't get satisfactory answers or incur anger, find another dentist. Or, you may even be dismissed by the dentist.
3. Currently there are some new types of dental business models aside from the traditional fee for service ones. These control the dentist and the services you receive -- just like similar ones in medicine. The skills, judgments and clinical decisions of the dentist are being controlled and modified by these third party organizations.
4. Mercury-amalgam fillings are extremely toxic and are to be avoided. They may contribute to birth defects, Alzheimer's disease and a host of other physical, mental and emotional diseases.
5. Did you know the life of an amalgam filling is only 10-15 years? A crown, 15-20 years? My dentists have never told me that. What is one to do in the future when this time runs out?
6. Dr. Jerome writes about physicians being "dentally-blind." I agree. In medical school (over 40 years ago) we probably had one day on dentistry (like the one day on nutrition). It is time for the physician and the dentist both, to treat the entire person and not just their respective parts with the conventionally-approved practices.
7. Proper extractions involve the removal of the tooth plus the cementum, the periodontal ligaments and the periosteum. Failure to do so often results in a subsequent major problem called a cavitation. Few dentists do this complete procedure and thus create illness that may never or rarely be diagnosed and treated. For example, the wisdom teeth that are removed in most of us are related via the energy circuits called acupuncture meridians, to the heart. If cavitations form, there is a short-circuit on the meridian. Bacteria and toxins gather in the extraction area and this oral pathology may often contribute to cardiac problems. But how many dentists or physicians are thinking of this connection when their patient has a heart attack and even dies?
8. As I learned in medicine in the l970s, the solution that Dr. Jerome gives is the same and it may be called prevention or, better yet, primary prevention. The latter means to prevent the problem before it even gets started. The key word here is nutrition. It starts with the parents before conception and continues during the pregnancy and thereafter in the child. Sugar is the worst offender.
9. Here is a brief run-down of the contents: What is the problem? How to find the truth. The role of organized dentistry. How the practice of dentistry works. Mercury in your mouth. Electricity in your mouth. What are the risks? How are teeth damaged? What to do? What materials to use? Crowning teeth. Root canals! Pulling teeth can cause problems. Replacing missing teeth. Braces (Orthodontics) What's the truth about fluoridation? Other dangers. What you can do. The spectre of HIV/AIDS. The future of dentistry. Here are some quotes from Tooth Truth:
"For every year the toxins (mercury-amalgam fillings) have been implanted, it may take your body a month to detoxify itself. If the metals have been in 20 or 30 years, expect it to take 20 or 30 months to get the majority of the mercury out of the body's tissues."
"The true value of dentistry is to prevent problems, not repair them after they occur."
"Depression is a common side effect of mercury exposure."
"Change must come from the people... it is a political battle up to the people to fight."
"Mercury is poisonous and should not be used in the human body."
"A healthy tooth does not decay."
"There are contaminants in all dental materials."
"All gold used (in dentistry) contains sine nickel."
"No dental treatment is permanent but damage done to tooth structure is forever."
"Crowns should be avoided. A living tooth should be left alone."
"The potential for root canaled teeth to damage your health cannot be emphasized enough."
"Dentists do root canals on their mistakes. (20% of crowned teeth die.)"
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Sep 2004 17:56 GMT GOOD ONE!
>>Jan, perhaps we can recommend a better dentist for you ..... > >I'm afraid, that won't cure malbrainia gravis... > >Regards, Jan - 30 Sep 2004 02:16 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: Happy Oyster happy.oyster@ariplex.com [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>Jan, perhaps we can recommend a better dentist for you ..... I already hae one of the best.
Dr. Frank Jerome
Author of Tooth Truth.
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Description A call for reform worth reading if you have any teeth left.
Reviewer: archimedes_tritium from Pasadena, CA USA
The author makes the point that once a person dies, their teeth may last thousands of years. Yet, while alive and part of an nutritional/immune system, most people are hard-pressed to keep them from rotting out of their mouth within a few years -- and think this is normal.
He lays out the chronology of most people's progressive dental deterioration; the first fillings at 8-12, progressing to crowns in 20's-30's, root canals and bridges in 30's-50's with subsequent extraction and dentures in old age. There is nothing left, after having marched arm-in-arm with the state-of-the-art dental care ... and thinking this is normal, despite folks in other parts of the world living life with a set of choppers the likes of which most dentists never even see.
The author lays out the realities and falsehoods behind each common dental procedure, as well as a dental care profession that has managed to isolate itself from the rest of medicine. This permits denial that the procedures and materials used in dentistry usually result in chronic infections and toxicity that have far-ranging, degenerative health consequences all over the body.
The latest thing is radioactive composite fillings "that show up better on x-rays". Banned from glowing wrist-watches, but OK for implantation in your mouth (the levels are "safe").
The good news is you don't have to wait the generation or two it will take for the policy-making ADA dental leadership (whose egos and prestige are at risk if the last century of treatment methods are recognized as being erroneous and harmful) to die off and reform to set in.
Tooth and gum rot can be arrested and dental health improved by changes in behavior and diet. It's your choice: have the Mountain Dew for breakfast every day, gradually destroy your dental health while setting yourself up for a lifetime of futile, painful dental work that will only establish a range of other chronic infections and diseases ... or don't.
The book lays out the information you need to manage your own dental health and find a dentist more concerned about your health than toeing the party line.
It's remarkable how advances in medicine are thought of as a major benefit of modernity. Yet, considering what's going on with cancer, dentistry, AIDS, in which politics, ego and perpetuating institutions are more important than solutions, perhaps this time will be looked upon even less favorably than when "leeching" was common. At least back then, it was lack of knowledge. Nowadays, the errors are due to perversity; the knowledge exists but is disregarded to perpetuate human power and dodge responsibility for error. Who is living in the Dark Ages?
carabelli - 30 Sep 2004 03:19 GMT Church Lady spammed SMD in message news:20040929211654.24216.00001273@mb-m10.aol.com... .....................>
> Tooth Truth by Frank J. Jerome > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > France > ... Japan Spammer
carabelli
Jan - 30 Sep 2004 07:18 GMT >Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "carabelli" Description A call for reform worth reading if you have any teeth left.
Reviewer: archimedes_tritium from Pasadena, CA USA
The author makes the point that once a person dies, their teeth may last thousands of years. Yet, while alive and part of an nutritional/immune system, most people are hard-pressed to keep them from rotting out of their mouth within a few years -- and think this is normal.
He lays out the chronology of most people's progressive dental deterioration; the first fillings at 8-12, progressing to crowns in 20's-30's, root canals and bridges in 30's-50's with subsequent extraction and dentures in old age. There is nothing left, after having marched arm-in-arm with the state-of-the-art dental care ... and thinking this is normal, despite folks in other parts of the world living life with a set of choppers the likes of which most dentists never even see.
The author lays out the realities and falsehoods behind each common dental procedure, as well as a dental care profession that has managed to isolate itself from the rest of medicine. This permits denial that the procedures and materials used in dentistry usually result in chronic infections and toxicity that have far-ranging, degenerative health consequences all over the body.
The latest thing is radioactive composite fillings "that show up better on x-rays". Banned from glowing wrist-watches, but OK for implantation in your mouth (the levels are "safe").
The good news is you don't have to wait the generation or two it will take for the policy-making ADA dental leadership (whose egos and prestige are at risk if the last century of treatment methods are recognized as being erroneous and harmful) to die off and reform to set in.
Tooth and gum rot can be arrested and dental health improved by changes in behavior and diet. It's your choice: have the Mountain Dew for breakfast every day, gradually destroy your dental health while setting yourself up for a lifetime of futile, painful dental work that will only establish a range of other chronic infections and diseases ... or don't.
The book lays out the information you need to manage your own dental health and find a dentist more concerned about your health than toeing the party line.
It's remarkable how advances in medicine are thought of as a major benefit of modernity. Yet, considering what's going on with cancer, dentistry, AIDS, in which politics, ego and perpetuating institutions are more important than solutions, perhaps this time will be looked upon even less favorably than when "leeching" was common. At least back then, it was lack of knowledge. Nowadays, the errors are due to perversity; the knowledge exists but is disregarded to perpetuate human power and dodge responsibility for error. Who is living in the Dark Ages?
Steven Fawks - 30 Sep 2004 17:22 GMT This is an excellent time of year to visit a local orchard (or in my case the back yard) and get some fresh apples.
'Easy as pie' is certainly an old cliche, yet a lot of people buy pies instead of make their own.
6 cups of pared, sliced apples 1 cup of sugar (or Splenda™ for you diabetics or dieters) 1 tsp of cinnamin 3 tbl. of flour
The real trick to pie making is in the crust. I don't care for 'store bought' varieties. Get out your Better Homes & Gardens cook book and follow the directions for pie crust to the letter. A little practice and you will make crust like your grandmother!
This crust will taste great, remain flaky, and not burn before the pie is done. (400º for 50-55 minutes)
Fawks
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 17:30 GMT >This is an excellent time of year to visit a local orchard >(or in my case the back yard) and get some fresh apples. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >The real trick to pie making is in the crust. I don't care for >'store bought' varieties. I gues you woundn't like the ones at Shop-Rite for a buck and a half then either ........
ALL BAKED and all ......
> Get out your Better Homes & Gardens >cook book and follow the directions for pie crust to the letter. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Fawks Joel M. Eichen - 30 Sep 2004 11:11 GMT >Church Lady spammed SMD in message >news:20040929211654.24216.00001273@mb-m10.aol.com... Good one ,,,, and very special!
Joel
>.....................> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >carabelli Tony Bad - 30 Sep 2004 20:26 GMT > Church Lady spammed SMD in message > news:20040929211654.24216.00001273@mb-m10.aol.com... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > France > > ... Japan http://tinyurl.com/4eynz
Jan - 01 Oct 2004 06:47 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "Tony Bad" SpamSpamSpam@bakedbeans.spam [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >http://tinyurl.com/4eynz Typical.
*I-don't-want-to-be-imformed-attitude.
http://www.minimum.com/b.asp?a=tooth-truth-jerome
Much more than just mercury toxicity, this book includes things you should know about crowns, braces, root canals, fluoridation, replacement of missing teeth, electricity in your mouth and more. Besides the author's wife, it is dedicated to Dr. Hulda Clark, Dr. Hal Huggins and all the patients who have suffered dentistry's toxic materials and treatments.
NO TOOTH IS WORTH DAMAGING YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM The dental profession, through its leadership, has generally ignored or denied the truth about the risks of using mercury and other metals in fillings. Therefore, this book has been written directly to the consumers, their patients. It is hoped that consumers will decide with their dollars what type of materials and procedures they really want once they are better informed. It is time to reexamine what dentists do and for better choices to be made.
This book is your call to action. Tell your friends about the problems with current dental practices. Spread the word to anyone who will listen.... This is your opportunity to directly contribute to the health of all Americans.
Jan
John Chewter - 01 Oct 2004 11:19 GMT OK Jan.
What exactly is the answer to perfect dentistry?
It seems its not amalgam (for you)
Would you be happy if amalgam didn't exist?
What would you use in its place - that is guaranteed not to have any toxic problems when viewed from 150 years from now? (We have 150 years of history of amalgam)
> >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >>From: "Tony Bad" SpamSpamSpam@bakedbeans.spam [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Jan Jan - 01 Oct 2004 20:58 GMT >Subject: Re: Why We Use No Mercury In The Fillings We Place >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >What exactly is the answer to perfect dentistry? Nothing is perfect.
>It seems its not amalgam (for you) And many other people.
>Would you be happy if amalgam didn't exist? Mercury is being eliminated in all forms. Fact is, it should never have been used. Hg vapors can ad do cuase mercury poisoning and many other conditions.It is also ruining the environment.
>What would you use in its place - that is guaranteed There are no guarantees, there are many many *unanswered* health problems. With the LIES of the ADA and AMA, no one thinks to check the teeth.
>(We have 150 years of history >of amalgam) That history does NOT include the problems, as they are DENIED.
Jan
>> Much more than just mercury toxicity, this book includes things you should >> know [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Jan Joel M. Eichen - 01 Oct 2004 13:21 GMT Warn your Break Dancing friends to give up the Vioxx too.
Joel
**
>Much more than just mercury toxicity, this book includes things you should know >about crowns, braces, root canals, fluoridation, replacement of missing teeth, >electricity in your mouth and more. Besides the author's wife, it is dedicated >to Dr. Hulda Clark, Dr. Hal Huggins and all the patients who have suffered >dentistry's toxic materials and treatments. Jan - 03 Oct 2004 06:53 GMT >Why We Use No Mercury >in the Fillings We Place: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >of the toxic element, Mercury? The argument rages as to whether that mercury >is bound, and therefore inert, or actively liberated as ****mercury vapor which
>can then be absorbed into body tissues throughout the life of the filling.*****
>Amalgam is a material that is over 150 years old, and there are many modern >alternatives that can be considered. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >****The known effects of mercury toxicity include deterioration of the immune system, the neurologic system, and the reproductive system.***
While I do not profess to be an expert on the scientific evidence which I have become familiar with, I made a choice many years ago, after having read a
>scientific article which indicated there was suppression in the immune >system of monkeys in the experimental group (which had recently undergone >amalgam filling placement), while the control group remained normal. The >American Dental Association's response was to state that "this research was >done on monkeys not humans, and therefore has no relevance." ****At that point, I asked myself what the American Dental Associations was trying to cover-up?
>Many dentists who have read this page have asked me why I suspected a >cover-up? ***It is incongruous to me that the American Dental Association tells
>us that mercury-amalgam is safe in our patient's mouths, that once the >silver and mercury have hardened, there is no significant mercury vapor >liberated from the filling. In the same breath, they ask us to store all >unused amalgam in a sealed gla |
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