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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / October 2004Effectiveness of herbal cures for toothache
Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. I search the net for home remedies because even doubling up on paracetamol and ibuprofen is having no effect. Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit but I have none and there is nowhere to buy any. I also see Garlic mentioned. I peel a clove chew it a couple of ties and push it onto the aching tooth. A miricle, within 30 secs the pain is gone. What is it in garlic that kills the pain? On the downside within 30 mins I had terrible stomach pains. So I take a bag of cloves and put them in a saucepan with half a cup of olive oil. This is then put on a low heat for a couple of hours. I take a bit of cotton wool and soak this in the oil ten push it up against the tooth. This also works, but not as well as the garlic, but no stomach cramps. I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal remedies?? > Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. <snip snip cut cut> Maybe 2 tablets (1 gram each) of amoxicillin/day would solve the problem, for now, giving you the time to get a dentist and have a RCT on that tooth... Michele Only if you are non-allergenic to Amoxicillin and in the U.S. .... you have a Rx. I believe in Italy no Rx is needed, correct? JOEL >> Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Michele > Only if you are non-allergenic to Amoxicillin and in the U.S. .... you > have a Rx. > > I believe in Italy no Rx is needed, correct? > > JOEL Joking again? Joel, considering the fact that it was sunday... i do not know if in the US you can find someone who will make an RX on Sundays... if else, pardon me for my ignorance. However, you're right, and i forgot to state the allergenicity to amoxi. Michele >> Only if you are non-allergenic to Amoxicillin and in the U.S. .... you >> have a Rx. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >if in the US you can find someone who will make an RX on Sundays... if else, >pardon me for my ignorance. Italy was a place where one could get penicillin from the pharmacist without seeing the doctor ........ or am I dating myself again? The laws may have changed. JOEL >However, you're right, and i forgot to state the allergenicity to amoxi. > >Michele > Italy was a place where one could get penicillin from the pharmacist > without seeing the doctor ........ or am I dating myself again? The > laws may have changed. > > JOEL I am 31, and in my experience i have always needed the doctor's prescription to get penicillin etc.. On weekends, OTOH, i could go to a local ER (here is called Pronto Soccorso) to have a prescription for that, if i really need it. FOR COMPLETENESS, Dental pain is of two basic types ....... 1. Pulpitis (from a vital or partially-vital tooth) ----> eugenol works. 2. Abscess (from a DEvital or partially devital tooth only) ----> Amoxicillin works. In both cases, its the "PARTIALLY" part that counfounds diagnosis from patients .... and from dentists! JOEL I forgot to mention parafunction because I still have no idea what it is. ************* >> Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Michele > JOEL > > I forgot to mention parafunction because I still have no idea what it > is. > > ************* We noticed > Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I > cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. I recently had to spend nearly 48 hours with a "hot" tooth and found that the only thing that would touch the pain was ice. Simply keeping the tooth physically cold made the pain go away instantly. Allowing the tooth to get warm made the pain come back instantly. Ever see someone try to sleep with ice in his mouth? Vaughn TRUE, when I see the dude in February walking up and down 2nd Street, looking for the office, with the 32oz size of Taco Bell Soft Drink, and sipping away, that's an abscess! Joel >> Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I >> cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ever see someone try to sleep with ice in his mouth? The danger is tyhe ice makes the adjacent teeth hurt! >Vaughn >Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I >cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. I search >the net for home remedies because even doubling up on paracetamol and >ibuprofen is having no effect. Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit but I have >none and there is nowhere to buy any. Drug store .... also known as "eugenol." They are not exactly the same, but close enough. Joel Ambusol contains it. > I also see Garlic mentioned. I peel a >clove chew it a couple of ties and push it onto the aching tooth. A miricle, >within 30 secs the pain is gone. What is it in garlic that kills the pain? The garlic scares off the vampires which actuially are yanking on the nerve ....... nah. Counter-irritant theory! (complicafed stuff!) vStick with the vampire explanation. >On the downside within 30 mins I had terrible stomach pains. >So I take a bag of cloves and put them in a saucepan with half a cup of >olive oil. This is then put on a low heat for a couple of hours. I take a >bit of cotton wool and soak this in the oil ten push it up against the >tooth. This also works, but not as well as the garlic, but no stomach >cramps. Cool. I imagine some people prepare romaine lettuce, get out some parmesean cheese .... and then use the garlic with that. Joel >I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >remedies?? We like them lots! But you better call the dentist anyway! Joel Is Jack Daniels "herbal"? That might help with the pain. jwn dds > Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I > cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. I search [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal > remedies?? If you are going to try whiskey at least splurge for some good stuff. Labrot & Graham Woodford Reserve Distiller's Select >Is Jack Daniels "herbal"? That might help with the pain. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >> remedies?? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >If you are going to try whiskey at least splurge for some good stuff. Everclear? >Labrot & Graham >Woodford Reserve [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >>> remedies?? >Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit Can cause necrosis. Do not use it! RR  SignatureDennis Adelina Levke (Vechta) Wer ist das nächste tote Kind? >>Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >RR Or Neurosis necrosis ,,,,,,,,, which is also known as Jan Drew Syndrome. >Or Neurosis necrosis ,,,,,,,,, which is also known as Jan Drew >Syndrome. You are really fast. How about improving your tempo to stop using dental amalgam? RR SignatureDie Schulcafeteria wird gesponsort von Ferreroh, Ihrem Naturkostladen für sortenreinen Industriezucker und Fermentergeschmack. >>Or Neurosis necrosis ,,,,,,,,, which is also known as Jan Drew >>Syndrome. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >RR amalgamitis is a huger disease over here ...... > >>Or Neurosis necrosis ,,,,,,,,, which is also known as Jan Drew > >>Syndrome. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > amalgamitis is a huger disease over here ...... But it is to god for heats > >Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit > > Can cause necrosis. > > Do not use it! No cloves? Does that really matter when I'm cooking? Most of the stuff is dead when it comes out of the oven. Nevermind, though I was in alt.cooking. Come on Renate - Joel and I have been asking for years - where are the pics? carabelli >> >Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Nevermind, though I was in alt.cooking. REPLY Are you talking about whole cloves or cloven cloves? Cloven cloves are more pungent. Joel >Come on Renate - Joel and I have been asking for years - where are the pics? > >carabelli > >> >Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit > >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joel Is opium not an herbal cure for toothache? >> Are you talking about whole cloves or cloven cloves? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Is opium not an herbal cure for toothache? Opium is a cure for EVERYTHING! Joel > >> Are you talking about whole cloves or cloven cloves? > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Joel The best for politicians, presidentes, ministress, and similar gangs. Proka >>> Are you talking about whole cloves or cloven cloves? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Joel Even heroin addiction ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>Opium is a cure for EVERYTHING! > >Even heroin addiction ? Only in homeopathic doses. RR SignatureOb HIV-Infiziert oder verblödeter Rucksackurlauber spielt da auch keine Rolle. Die Welt wird ohne ihn überleben. Und die Krone hat ihre Auflage gesteigert. Wolfgang Lammery in http://forum.webmart.de/wmmsg.cfm?id=357215&d=180&a=1&t=2207233 > >>Opium is a cure for EVERYTHING! > > > >Even heroin addiction ? > > Only in homeopathic doses. What is this ?? How much is this? >> >Even heroin addiction ? >> >> Only in homeopathic doses. > >What is this ?? How much is this? Heroin intake only in 1mg of D100 dilution 1x per day. Works. RR SignatureOb vorheriges Numerieren hülfreich wäre, müßte sich aber klären lassen. Ihre Opfer werden ganz bestimmt ohne Nummern, aber mit Numeroteur arbeiten... Baseballschläger sollen hervorragende Einprägungen hinterlassen, heißt es... (Aribert Deckers zum Kindermordanstifter Jens Schlüter in d.a.n.) >Is opium not an herbal cure for toothache? Yes. Quite effective. RR SignatureOb HIV-Infiziert oder verblödeter Rucksackurlauber spielt da auch keine Rolle. Die Welt wird ohne ihn überleben. Und die Krone hat ihre Auflage gesteigert. Wolfgang Lammery in http://forum.webmart.de/wmmsg.cfm?id=357215&d=180&a=1&t=2207233 >Most of the stuff is dead when it comes out of the oven. And when in comes into the oven...? >where are the pics? No chance. :-) RR SignatureOb HIV-Infiziert oder verblödeter Rucksackurlauber spielt da auch keine Rolle. Die Welt wird ohne ihn überleben. Und die Krone hat ihre Auflage gesteigert. Wolfgang Lammery in http://forum.webmart.de/wmmsg.cfm?id=357215&d=180&a=1&t=2207233 Doesn't garlic have a huge antibiotic effect? >Ok it is a Sunday morning and I have the worst toothache of my life. I >cannot see a dentist until monday and I am reaching desperation. I search [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >remedies?? I am not sure, but I do know it keeps vampires away ..... Joel >Doesn't garlic have a huge antibiotic effect? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >>remedies?? Especially useful on the 31st of this month. >I am not sure, but I do know it keeps vampires away ..... > >Joel > >>Doesn't garlic have a huge antibiotic effect? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Especially useful on the 31st of this month. And it works extremely well on the 31st of NEXT month! Joel >>I am not sure, but I do know it keeps vampires away ..... >> >>Joel >> >>>Doesn't garlic have a huge antibiotic effect? >>Especially useful on the 31st of this month. > >And it works extremely well on the 31st of NEXT month! > >Joel Where are you buying your calendars ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>Especially useful on the 31st of this month. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Where are you buying your calendars ? Precisely. You caught my drift! >Doesn't garlic have a huge antibiotic effect? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>ibuprofen is having no effect. Clove oil is mentioned quite a bit but I have >>none and there is nowhere to buy any Drug store ...... Ambusol is good as well. >. I also see Garlic mentioned. I peel a >>clove chew it a couple of ties and push it onto the aching tooth. A miricle, >>within 30 secs the pain is gone. VAMPIRE deterrent. >What is it in garlic that kills the pain? See above. >>On the downside within 30 mins I had terrible stomach pains. >>So I take a bag of cloves and put them in a saucepan with half a cup of >>olive oil. This is then put on a low heat for a couple of hours. I take a >>bit of cotton wool and soak this in the oil ten push it up against the >>tooth. This also works, but not as well as the garlic, but no stomach >>cramps. Cool. Any difference with the number of vampires? Joel >>I was just curious to find out what dentists think of these herbal >>remedies?? > Drug store ...... Ambusol is good as well. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > See above. So, vampires cause tooth pain? Hmmmm... didn't see that in my Pathology notes... musta been asleep that day... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >So, vampires cause tooth pain? Hmmmm... didn't see that in my Pathology >notes... musta been asleep that day... >SP Of course. Without vampires, dentists would be outa business. Joel >>So, vampires cause tooth pain? Hmmmm... didn't see that in my Pathology >>notes... musta been asleep that day... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Joel Actually had a call last year requesting 'fangs'. Turned them down. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>So, vampires cause tooth pain? Hmmmm... didn't see that in my Pathology >>>notes... musta been asleep that day... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Actually had a call last year requesting 'fangs'. >Turned them down. Why? An impression, some acrylic, and a fee, and you could've had yourself a profitable little October activity. Or was he asking for something more perminant? Adenosine > >Of course. Without vampires, dentists would be outa business. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > W_B When I was in the downtown Kombat Zone, I had a couple of guys (never ladies) ask, and I put on expired composite, formed it with my fingers (canines, never any other tooth). Minimal etch (5secs) and bonding and polish only with Carbide steel burs (#1157). I don't remember having trouble getting them off: There would be no etching at the gingival, so I would just insert a spoon and crack it and then take the rest off with the #1157. As long as the composite wasn't color matched to the tooth, it cake off easily and so it was't traumatic, IMO. I'd be interested to know why you would refuse to do the same. You know? It's a funny thing: some of those *plastacene* hand formed jobs looked better (at least initially) than the ones I would agonize and fret over, doing them *right*.... Makes ya wonder if sometimes I'm not my own worst enemy.... Does anybody form composite on the anteriors using their gloved hands for real? Cheeahs SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >As long as the composite wasn't color matched to the tooth, >it cake off easily and so it was't traumatic, IMO. I'd be interested to >know why you would refuse to do the same. Patient wanted permanent crowns. Anyone that far out there to drink blood, would be a risk of Hep or Aids. >You know? It's a funny thing: some of those *plastacene* hand formed >jobs looked better (at least initially) than the ones I would agonize [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Does anybody form composite on the anteriors using their gloved hands >for real? Only all the time. Posteriors too ! >Cheeahs >SP -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>....I'd be interested to > >know why you would refuse to do the same. > > Patient wanted permanent crowns. Anyone that far out there > to drink blood, would be a risk of Hep or Aids. Oh.... didn't even THINK of this being permanent. In that case, I'd say you're right. > >You know? It's a funny thing: some of those *plastacene* hand formed > >jobs looked better (at least initially) than the ones I would agonize [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Only all the time. Posteriors too ! HA!!!! well, maybe I'll permit myself to do this w/o feeling guilty! > W_B Thanks SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet |
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