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W_B - 29 Aug 2004 01:59 GMT Stand up for your rights.
Bob Marley was a messenger from *GOD*.
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Vaughn - 29 Aug 2004 02:04 GMT > Bob Marley was a messenger from *GOD*. Ever been to Jamacia?
W_B - 29 Aug 2004 02:43 GMT >> Bob Marley was a messenger from *GOD*. > > Ever been to Jamacia? Actually no, but have been to Bahammas and several times to FLA
Do you salt-water fish ?
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Vaughn - 29 Aug 2004 14:21 GMT > > Ever been to Jamacia? > > > Actually no, but have been to Bahammas > and several times to FLA We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents slightly intimidating.
> Do you salt-water fish ? Nope, not since I found out that they sell perfectly good fish in food stores. However, we DO soak up a bit of the ambience of the salt-water fishing experience most every Sunday morning when we go down to the drift fishing dock in Lantana to visit our favorite breakfast place, Tackey Joe's. Does that count?
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Joel M. Eichen - 29 Aug 2004 14:38 GMT >> > Ever been to Jamacia? >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents >slightly intimidating. To say nothing about a trip on their subway .....
>> Do you salt-water fish ? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Vaughn StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 16:50 GMT > >Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly > >makes me an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the > >residents slightly intimidating. > > To say nothing about a trip on their subway ..... If they actually had one, you would not come out alive, or at best, missing pieces of your body. Kord S====P
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W_B - 29 Aug 2004 15:51 GMT >> > Ever been to Jamacia? >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents >slightly intimidating. Poverty abounds there.
>> Do you salt-water fish ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >in Lantana to visit our favorite breakfast place, Tackey Joe's. Does that >count? Close enough for government work 8^]]
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StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 16:50 GMT > >an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents > >slightly intimidating. > > Poverty abounds there. GAWD, poverty positively FLOURISHES there.... Ocho Rios is worth seeing, and climbing those water falls. That's about it... unless you're a youngish blonde, or the right color... Kord S....P
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Vaughn - 29 Aug 2004 17:54 GMT > > >an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents > > >slightly intimidating. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > GAWD, poverty positively FLOURISHES there.... Ocho Rios is worth seeing, > and climbing those water falls. We gave the falls a pass, at least the climb. 6 of us hired a van for a tour&shopping and that worked out pretty good. They have an official there at the taxi stand that records the deal you negotiate with the taxi driver and takes all of your names so they know who you are leaving with. They told us in every way possible that you never get in an unofficial taxi, you might never be seen again!
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W_B - 29 Aug 2004 17:56 GMT >> > >an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents >> > >slightly intimidating. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Vaughn Holy Moley Batman !
Sounds like NYC is safer !
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StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 20:20 GMT > Holy Moley Batman ! > > Sounds like NYC is safer ! > > -- > W_B You're OK if you're with the Locals, or if you stay in the Club Med complex, etc.... But it's like I say: they don't want us there.... SSPPPeee
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StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 20:20 GMT > We gave the falls a pass, at least the climb. 6 of us hired a van > for a tour&shopping and that worked out pretty good. They have an > official there at the taxi stand that records the deal you negotiate with > the taxi driver and takes all of your names so they know who you are > leaving with. They told us in every way possible that you never get in an > unofficial taxi, you might never be seen again! Sound advice.... it goes this way: 'Hi, I'm Oscar, Sirs, and I can take you anywhere you want to go....' Bang; into the Bay with you. Isn't that too bad, they fished some more tourists out of the Bay with their throats cut. They must have been in the drug trade....
If you ever do go back, arrange a climb with the hotel. It is really a gas... SSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPP
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StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 16:50 GMT > We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. > Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me > an expert on Jamacia, but we found the scenery stunning and the residents > slightly intimidating. I'd say you got away with one of the best experiences a tourist COULD get.. No injuries, no problems. They don't want us there. Only the buisnesses do... So thinketh the DORK S____P
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W_B - 29 Aug 2004 17:11 GMT >So thinketh the DORK >S____P Pipe,
You are not a dork so quit saying it immediately.
michael moore, now he's a DORK !
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StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 17:31 GMT > >So thinketh the DORK > >S____P [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- But it's FUN!!!! Lookit all these imaginative signatures I've been going through.... ! And I haven't insulted anyone else doing it. SoSayethThe..... you see? I can't come up w/ anything. S------Pee
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W_B - 29 Aug 2004 17:34 GMT >> >So thinketh the DORK >> >S____P [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >SoSayethThe..... you see? I can't come up w/ anything. >S------Pee Bong Water.
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Steve@toomuchspam.com - 29 Aug 2004 17:52 GMT I do remember lots of talk about injuries climbing those Falls. We skipped it out of my (perhaps ungrounded) fear of injuring a wrist and not being able to work.
>> We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. >> Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >So thinketh the DORK >S____P W_B - 29 Aug 2004 17:55 GMT >I do remember lots of talk about injuries climbing those Falls. We >skipped it out of my (perhaps ungrounded) fear of injuring a wrist and >not being able to work. Sissy.
But I don't climb either, fear of heights and all that. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end.
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Steve@toomuchspam.com - 29 Aug 2004 18:00 GMT I have walked on I-Beams in my construction days. I have worked on the tallest building's roofs in Detroit. Fear of heights was never my problem. Now that I am over 50, fear of breaking a wrist keep me from doing lots of things. I enjoy doing dentistry too much to risk not being able to do it.
>>I do remember lots of talk about injuries climbing those Falls. We >>skipped it out of my (perhaps ungrounded) fear of injuring a wrist and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >But I don't climb either, fear of heights and all that. >It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. W_B - 29 Aug 2004 18:04 GMT I know. Was just teasing you.
>I have walked on I-Beams in my construction days. I have worked on >the tallest building's roofs in Detroit. Fear of heights was never my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>But I don't climb either, fear of heights and all that. >>It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. -- W_B
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Steve@toomuchspam.com - 29 Aug 2004 18:10 GMT You may tease as much as you like.
>I know. >Was just teasing you. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>>But I don't climb either, fear of heights and all that. >>>It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. W_B - 29 Aug 2004 18:05 GMT >Now that I am over 50, You don't look a day over 40.
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Steve@toomuchspam.com - 29 Aug 2004 18:10 GMT Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,, I think.
>>Now that I am over 50, > >You don't look a day over 40. StovePipe - 29 Aug 2004 20:20 GMT > I have walked on I-Beams in my construction days. I have worked on > the tallest building's roofs in Detroit. Fear of heights was never my > problem. Now that I am over 50, fear of breaking a wrist keep me from > doing lots of things. I enjoy doing dentistry too much to risk not > being able to do it. I, for one, think that's a very good attitude. My Dad still goes skiing on the face of the Matterhorn every year, but he's been doing it since his late twentys. You have to consider the worst case scenario and see if you can accept that.,,. I therefore understand re: your not climbing those falls. I do have some experience, and so I'd do it again. But there'd be some money in it for the guide.... after we got back down safely. AaaAAAAAaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh............ SPLAT...........! SP
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Steven Bornfeld - 29 Aug 2004 22:38 GMT >> We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. >>Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So thinketh the DORK > S____P I'm sure one can find crime and anti-Western feeling in a lot of places. There are plenty of Jamaicans here in Brooklyn, and they are generally very decent folk, certainly not hostile.
Steve
W_B - 29 Aug 2004 22:40 GMT >>> We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. >>>Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve Do they all hang out at 'Jamaica Station' ?
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Vaughn - 29 Aug 2004 22:58 GMT > I'm sure one can find crime and anti-Western feeling in a lot of > places. Especially the last few years...
> There are plenty of Jamaicans here in Brooklyn, and they are > generally very decent folk, certainly not hostile. Yes! The Jamacians I have bumped in to here in Florida are very decent and trustworthy folk, and that goes for most of the Caribbean islanders I have met. That said, you can not generalize from them to an unprotected walk through a Jamacian getto.
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> Steve StovePipe - 30 Aug 2004 00:25 GMT > Yes! The Jamacians I have bumped in to here in Florida are very > decent and trustworthy folk, and that goes for most of the Caribbean > islanders I have met. That said, you can not generalize from them to an > unprotected walk through a Jamacian getto. > > Vaughn Ezzatly SP
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Dr. Steve - 30 Aug 2004 01:45 GMT > Yes! The Jamacians I have bumped in to here in Florida are very decent and >trustworthy folk, and that goes for most of the Caribbean islanders I have met. >That said, you can not generalize from them to an unprotected walk through a >Jamacian getto. Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,, any other ghetto (regardless of the race or nationality of people filling it).
The Webby - 30 Aug 2004 02:16 GMT Dear Friends, The word "ghetto" has had an interesting evolution of use.
> Main Entry: 1ghetto > Pronunciation: 'ge-(")tO [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity > <stuck in daytime TV's ghetto> Today in American society, we tend to think of a ghetto as a place where danger lurks around every corner. a place where crime makes it possible for people to survive financially (a life of crime),...
The word "barrio" has had a similar dynamic:
> Main Entry: barrio > Pronunciation: 'bar-E-"O, 'bar- [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 2 : a Spanish-speaking quarter or neighborhood in a city or town in the U.S. > especially in the Southwest TW
> > Yes! The Jamacians I have bumped in to here in Florida are very decent > > and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,, any other ghetto (regardless of the race or > nationality of people filling it). StovePipe - 30 Aug 2004 04:09 GMT > Or,,,,,,,,,,,,,, any other ghetto (regardless of the race or > nationality of people filling it). Absolutely... Point taken SP
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StovePipe - 30 Aug 2004 00:25 GMT > I'm sure one can find crime and anti-Western feeling in a lot of > places. There are plenty of Jamaicans here in Brooklyn, and they are > generally very decent folk, certainly not hostile. > > Steve Not at all surprised to hear that. Those people are going places and making headway for themselves. That's why they left their homes. You see a lot of them in the Cayman Islands as well. Those are the ones that are go-getters and want to excell for themselves and their children. I'd say that if a Jamaican can get out of his island and make a go of it in Brooklyn, NY (where it gets cold in winter), that alone is victory. Bravo SP
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Dr. Steve - 30 Aug 2004 01:44 GMT The Jamaican who worked side by side with my Dad for 40 years is now a very good family friend. His family is wonderful. GREAT PEOPLE!!
>>> We have "been to Jamacia" in the same sense that Dr. Steve recently did. >>>Having seen a tour ship town and explored the surrounding area hardly makes me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve
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