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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / October 2004How can you tell if a filling is leaking?
My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if he wanted to replace the amalgam with composite? He said that he would if he could, but some may be too deep for that and would require another amalgam. He also warned that in doing so, he may encounter problems and I may end up with root canals and crowns.Is this all necessary? To me, everything seems funtional and nothing hurts in my mouth. I appreciate any suggestions. Would need to see you to comment Many things don't hurt while they are getting progressively worse.... > My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". > Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > To me, everything seems funtional and nothing hurts in my mouth. I appreciate > any suggestions. >Would need to see you to comment Why? >Many things don't hurt while they are getting progressively worse.... Oh, okay. >> My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are >"leaking". [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >appreciate >> any suggestions. >My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". How does he know? >Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if >he wanted to replace the amalgam with composite? He said that he would if he >could, but some may be too deep for that and would require another amalgam. Are the margins chipped or is it "TIME" ..... Car payment TIME? > He >also warned that in doing so, he may encounter problems and I may end up with >root canals and crowns.Is this all necessary? COOL! He is crown-happy guy! >To me, everything seems funtional and nothing hurts in my mouth. I appreciate >any suggestions. Get a second opinion. Get a list from Doc 1. Then go to Doc2 with the list in your pocket. Separate determination is key! JOEL Joel,,,,, it is not fair to bad-mouth someone you don't even know. This patient might need a bunch of replacements, or might not. But, saying "crown-happy" is on the verge on insulting, unless you know about the case than I do. A second opinion is always a good option. Just warn the patient that they will be paying for the second opinion (amazing how many people do not realize this), and they must realize that they will get 10 different treatment plans form 10 different dentists.  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > >My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > JOEL > Joel,,,,, it is not fair to bad-mouth someone you don't even know. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > realize this), and they must realize that they will get 10 different > treatment plans form 10 different dentists. Personally, I don't like use of the term "leaking" unless the leakage can be clearly seen--say, a resin filling. If they are old amalgams, you can't see them leaking. I know how you see leakage--in those scanning electron micrographs of dye studies. Otherwise, the filling is chipped or decayed. These are real words for real phenomena which can be demonstrated. To say (as this dentist apparently did) that all the old fillings need to be replaced because they are leaking, is not a way to build trust. Bottom line is I agree with all of you--get a second opinion. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 I have often used the term leaking, as I hate the term "cavity". Since that only denotes a hole. Your point is well taken, though, and I may reconsider my verbiage. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > Joel,,,,, it is not fair to bad-mouth someone you don't even know. > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Steve >I have often used the term leaking, as I hate the term "cavity". Since that >only denotes a hole. Your point is well taken, though, and I may reconsider >my verbiage. 'broken down filling' 'fractured filling' Both these terms are accurate even if we are just talking about marginal breakdown. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>I have often used the term leaking, as I hate the term "cavity". Since that >>only denotes a hole. Your point is well taken, though, and I may reconsider [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com That's fine--I have no problem with that. If a patient wishes to see, I use the intraoral camera and it's immediately obvious what I am talking about. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >>I have often used the term leaking, as I hate the term "cavity". Since that >>only denotes a hole. Your point is well taken, though, and I may reconsider [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >'fractured filling' BUSTED 'TOOT. >Both these terms are accurate even if we are just talking >about marginal breakdown. >Joel,,,,, it is not fair to bad-mouth someone you don't even know. > >This patient might need a bunch of replacements, or might not. TRUE. > But, saying >"crown-happy" is on the verge on insulting, unless you know about the case >than I do. TRUE. >A second opinion is always a good option. Just warn the patient that they >will be paying for the second opinion (amazing how many people do not >realize this), and they must realize that they will get 10 different >treatment plans form 10 different dentists. TRUE. Joel >My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >To me, everything seems funtional and nothing hurts in my mouth. I appreciate >any suggestions. Get a second opinion. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >>Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Get a second opinion. I third that! I mean I second that. I am also interested in a more precise definition of 'leaky' I had this kind of thing at the UCLA dental school. The private dentist I saw before wanted to do 2 crowns and 1 filling. UCLA wanted to do 4 crowns and 10 fillings. Quite a difference. Any reason for UCLA to over treat? All my amalgam fillings are apparently leaky. Some of them are 1 surface and appear just fine. There is some discoloration on some of them. They hit me with the "We do comprehensive care" therefore we need to replace all your Amalgam fillings and crown at least the four 1st molars. I understand 2 of the first molars as the filling are large and probably should not be refilled. The other 2 are not that bad. >>>My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >>>Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I mean I second that. >I am also interested in a more precise definition of 'leaky' I can send some photos of my roof! >I had this kind of thing at the UCLA dental school. The private >dentist I saw before wanted to do 2 crowns and 1 filling. UCLA wanted >to do 4 crowns and 10 fillings. Quite a difference. Any reason for >UCLA to over treat? YUP. >All my amalgam fillings are apparently leaky. Hah! OK, I guess I need to have that one explained too! It is not so. There are restorations that are undergoing RECURRENT DECAY, but that is based on evidence. The "leaky" sounds like a watered-down explanation that could be challenged say in court! >Some of them are 1 >surface and appear just fine. There is some discoloration on some of >them. YUP. I have seen BLACK. I mean they look like coal and have expanded out beyond the margins of the tooth! Amalgam "CREEPS." Funny thing about amalgam. Once it corrodes, it gets tighter in the tooth! It expands, thank god. Otherwise it would be like a lead plug floating inside the tooth. Joel >They hit me with the "We do comprehensive care" therefore we need to >replace all your Amalgam fillings and crown at least the four 1st >molars. That is their choice ..... > I understand 2 of the first molars as the filling are large and >probably should not be refilled. The other 2 are not that bad. OK, new dentist required! A conservative dentist! Drilling and redrilling cannot be good for the tooth. Yeah sometimes we need to do that. Other times no! Joel >>>>My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >>>>Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>I mean I second that. >>I am also interested in a more precise definition of 'leaky' > >I can send some photos of my roof! Har :-) >>I had this kind of thing at the UCLA dental school. The private >>dentist I saw before wanted to do 2 crowns and 1 filling. UCLA wanted >>to do 4 crowns and 10 fillings. Quite a difference. Any reason for >>UCLA to over treat? > >YUP. I was wondering why they'd overtreat as the cost is about 1/2 of private practices and the students are obviously not paid for it. Is it so their students can practice? Or do they want everything perfect. For some reason I thought they'd be conservative. >>All my amalgam fillings are apparently leaky. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >The "leaky" sounds like a watered-down explanation that could be >challenged say in court! Watered down sounds about right. :-) >>Some of them are 1 >>surface and appear just fine. There is some discoloration on some of >>them. > >YUP. I have seen BLACK. I mean they look like coal and have expanded >out beyond the margins of the tooth! Amalgam "CREEPS." Do you mean that dark or black is fine? If I recall correctly, some of my teeth looked darker even when the fillings were new. >Funny thing about amalgam. Once it corrodes, it gets tighter in the >tooth! It expands, thank god. This is what I thought, too. The corrosion actually improves the seal. >Otherwise it would be like a lead plug floating inside the tooth. > >Joel Contrary to what anyone says, there is no way to tell you who is right without seeing you in person. Even then, much of what we do is up for discussion, as 5 different dentists will provide 5 different treatment plans. All 5 will agree on the major points, but there are many ways to solve dental problems.Also, there is no way I can evaluate how good a filling is in my own mouth (after 20 plus years), how can you possibly tell that your fillings are good or bad? >I am also interested in a more precise definition of 'leaky' > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >>I mean I second that. Good point. I should have been more precise. By "not that bad" I meant they are not as big as the other 2, and new fillings would probably work, unless UCLA has made some new discoveries and all first molars should be crowned for preventive purposes. >Contrary to what anyone says, there is no way to tell you who is >right without seeing you in person. Even then, much of what we do is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >evaluate how good a filling is in my own mouth (after 20 plus years), >how can you possibly tell that your fillings are good or bad? >My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if >he wanted to replace the amalgam with composite? He said that he would if he >could, but some may be too deep for that and would require another amalgam. How could a filling be 'too deep' for composite but amalgam is OK? Isn't the filling vs crown thing about integety of the remaining cusps, or does he believe that replacing a cusp with amalgam is somehow better than replacing it with composite? >He also warned that in doing so, he may encounter problems and I may end up >with root canals and crowns.Is this all necessary? >To me, everything seems funtional and nothing hurts in my mouth. I appreciate >any suggestions. Yeah, get a dentist who is comfortable with larger posterior composites! If you're going to get a metal tooth replacement, I'd go with gold, why have a nasty black looking amalgam in there at all? And, like everybody else said, get a few different opinions. Adenosine Ceramic onlay >>My dentist wants to replace all my old fillings. He says they are "leaking". >>Wouldn't I either feel something or taste something if they were? I asked if [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Adenosine Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >Ceramic onlay Only if you can do it in one visit, and give me some sort of guarrentee that it won't chip or anything. If I'm going to get a lab fabricated restoration, I'm going to go with the one with the best track record. Adenosine >>Ceramic onlay > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Adenosine I do it is one visit with CAD-CAM technology. If you wear an NTI, I will guarantee it will not break. Actually, I guarantee them for my patients. The most recent 5 year study done using one generation older hardware & 3 generations older Software have an identical success/failure told as gold. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. Leaking fillings ...... Can you put a sheet of carboard under them and check the cardboard in the morning? No that's oil leaks. >>>Ceramic onlay >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I do it is one visit with CAD-CAM technology. Does it get to be stained too? I've seen some stained CEREC onlays that looked DAMN good. >If you wear an NTI, I will guarantee it will not break. Actually, I guarantee them for my >patients. The most recent 5 year study done using one generation older >hardware & 3 generations older Software have an identical >success/failure told as gold. >Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. >Troy, Michigan, USA How you possibly know if it will last as long as gold? There are probably lots of gold onlays in mouths right now placed back in the 50s that are still going strong? How many ceramic onlays can you say the same thing about? Now if only those machines could mill gold..... Adenosine >>>>Ceramic onlay >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Adenosine We only have data from a 10 year study (older of course)and 2 five year studies. these studies "predict" the longevity of restorations based on the # of failures at 5 years & 10 years. They could Mill gold, but think of the wasted material costs. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >Now if only those machines could mill gold..... > >Adenosine Yeah, the 'sweepings' would be worth a fortune ! -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? It's a proven FACT. http://www.algonet.se/~leif/FUSCIFCT.html Scientifically Proven Facts About Mercury & Dental Amalgam -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 1. Dental Amalgam contains about 50% Mercury. 2. Mercury has been scientifically demonstrated to be more toxic than Lead, Cadmium, or even Arsenic. 3. Mercury leaves dental amalgam continuously throughout the lifetime of the filing.(7) 4. Mercury vapour is the main way that mercury comes out of amalgam.(31) 5. Mercury vapour is absorbed at a rate of 80% through the lungs into the arterial blood. (31, 55) 6. Mercury is cytotoxic. Ie. It kills cells 7. There is NO harmless level of Mercury Vapour Exposure. (63) 8. Mercury from amalgam binds to -SH (sulphydryl) groups. These exist in almost every enzymatic process in the body. Mercury from amalgam will thus have the potential of disturbing all metabolic processes. ( 25, 33,60). 9. Mercury from amalgam is transported freely via the blood.(19,34,35,) 10. Mercury vapour is absorbed directly into the brain. (34, 55a) 11. Mercury from amalgam will result in a slow build up of mercury in body tissues. (20,26, 34) 12. Mercury crosses the blood brain barrier. (34,55a) 13. Mercury is implicated in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's Disease. (67,68) 14. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the foetus and infant before the mother. (20,61) 15. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the breast milk and the foetus up to 8 times more than the mother's tissues. (18,19) 16. Mercury (Mercury Vapour / Methylmercury) crosses the placenta.(18, 31) 17. Mercury Crosses into breast milk.(18,31,61) 18. Mercury will severely reduce reproductive function.(2, 3, 4, 20, 22, 24, 31, 37,38, 39, 40, 41, 49) 19. Mercury rapidly depletes the immune system.(27,34,35,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,60) 20. Mercury will induce a number of Auto Immune Diseases.(27,34,35,42,43,44,60) 21. Mercury will cause an increase in number and severity of allergies.(1,34,60) 22. Mercury from amalgam is stored principally in the kidneys, liver and brain. (1,20,31) 23. Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) causes kidney damage.(59) 24. Mercury from will cause a 50% reduction in Kidney filtration as shown in a study of sheep after amalgam placement.(59) 25. Methyl Mercury is more toxic than elemental Mercury. 26. Mercury from amalgam is methylated in the mouth.(51,53,54,) 27. After chewing, Mercury Vapour levels will remain raised for at least another 90 minutes. (1,15,16,18,47) 28. Mercury from amalgam will migrate through the tooth.(25,27,30) 29. This rate of migration is increased if a gold crown is placed over a tooth filled with amalgam. (27,30) 30. Teeth are living tissue and are a part of our bodies. 31. Teeth have a massive communication via blood, lymph and nerves with the rest of the body.(34) 32. Mercury from amalgam is absorbed into the body at a rate of 3 to 17 mcg / day. ( WHO 1991 Criteria 118) 33. Mercury release is increased by; increases in temperature, friction & increase in electrical currents.(28,31,56) 34. Mercury from amalgam will enter the body as; Elemental Mercury, Inorganic Mercury, Vapour, charged Mercury ions. 35. In the Brain, Mercury from amalgam is stored preferentially in the Pituitary Gland and Hypothalamus. (20,34) 36. Micro-Mercurialism is principally characterised by Neurological symptoms.(34) 37. Mercury is transported along the axons of nerve fibres.(33,34,50) 38. Mercury from amalgam may be stored in every other cell in the body. Each area affected will produce its own set of symptoms. 39. Mercury binds to haemoglobin in the red blood cell thus reducing oxygen carrying capacity.(1,16,17,21,26,35) 40. Mercury damages blood vessel reducing blood supply to the tissues (micro-angiopathies).(34) 41. Amalgam fillings produce electrical currents which might be injurious to health. These currents are measurable in Micro Amps. The Central Nervous System (Brain) operates in the range of Nano-Amps this is One Thousand times less than a Micro Amp.(28) 41A. Dissimilar metals in the mouth [eg Gold & Amalgam] will produce higher electrical currents.(19,30) 42. Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) will induce Antibiotic Resistance and Mercury resistance in bacteria in the mouth and Gastrointestinal tract.(58) 43. Brain levels of mercury are in a direct linear proportion to the number of Surfaces of amalgam fillings in the mouth.(1,19,25) 43A? The level of Mercury, in brain tissue of foetus's, new born, and young children, is proportional to the number of amalgams in the mother's mouth.(61) 44. Mercury will cause single strand breaks in DNA.(41,42) 45. Mercury levels in the body can not be assessed by either blood or urine levels. (26) 46. Mercury from amalgam fillings is the single greatest source of dietary mercury for the general population. (W.H.O. Criteria 118., 1991). 47. Dental personnel are severely effected by exposure to mercury. 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Northwest-Dent. 1991 May-Jun; 70(3): 23-6 66 Regional brain trace-element studies in Alzheimer's disease. Thompson CM Markesbery WR Ehmann WD Mao YX Vance In: Neurotoxicology (1988 Spring) 9(1):1-7 67 A search for longitudinal variations in trace element levels in nails of Alzheimer's disease patients. Vance DE Ehmann WD Markesbery WR In: Biol Trace Elem Res (1990 Jul-Dec) 26-27:461-70 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Authorised by the Australasian Society of Oral Medicine and Toxicology. Phone +64 2 867-1111 Mercury is Poisonous. There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue. >>Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Scientifically Proven Facts >About Mercury & Dental Amalgam Uh... didn't I just advise that person NOT to get an amalgam placed? And didn't this person claim to have no problems? Didn't you say to consider getting them replaced *IF* you have problems? We were talking about replacement of fillings that have recurrent decay, not about health problems. Just another win for marketing using cosmetic advantage! The reasons I gave are compelling -- who wants a blackened POS in their mouth when they could have a visually appealing composite? Adenosine >Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? >From: Adenosine adeno@nospam4u.org [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Uh... didn't I just advise that person NOT to get an amalgam placed? Irrelevant to my posting scientific proven facts. > Didn't you say to >consider getting them replaced *IF* you have problems? I certainly did. I also answered the poster's question. >We were talking about replacement of fillings that have recurrent >decay, not about health problems. *I* was answering the poster's question. >Just another win for marketing using cosmetic advantage! Are you not reading?? I am NOT here to do ANY marketing, and I am NOT interested in any cosmetic advantage. >The reasons I >gave are compelling - The reason you gave are comestic. The FACT is: Amalgams let off vapors causing MERCURY POISONING AND PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY WHICH ARE VERY VERY SERIOUS *HEALTH* PROBLEMS. Not a minor *look better issue* How MANY times do I need to tell you that??? Go to a marketing newsgroup, this is a dental newsgroup where marketing is last on the list. Jan >>Uh... didn't I just advise that person NOT to get an amalgam placed? > >Irrelevant to my posting scientific proven facts. So then why did you reply to me and not the original post? >> Didn't you say to >>consider getting them replaced *IF* you have problems? > >I certainly did. > >I also answered the poster's question. I think the poster was asking about recurrent decay; I don't see even a single reference to recurrent decay in dental restorations in your post. >>Just another win for marketing using cosmetic advantage! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >The reason you gave are comestic. And that makes them less valid why? Isn't the ends the same? >Go to a marketing newsgroup, this is a dental newsgroup where marketing is last >on the list. And here I thought that marketing was one of the big hot topics of dentistry. I see more and more dentists advertise all the time. Adenosine >Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? >From: Adenosine adenosine@nospam.com [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >So then why did you reply to me and not the original post? You reposted the orginal post which was made back in August. Now why are you asking such silly questions? >Didn't you say to >>>consider getting them replaced *IF* you have problems? >> >>I certainly did. >> >>I also answered the poster's question. >I think the poster was asking about recurrent decay; I don't see even >a single reference to recurrent decay in dental restorations in your >post. See the title of this thread. <snip more about marketing> Jan >>Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? >>From: Adenosine adenosine@nospam.com [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Now why are you asking such silly questions? Ouch! Jan - 1 Adenosine - 0 Musta been drunk. Oh sh.t, it was 12:00 today? Uh... I plead the 5th. Adenosine >>Subject: Re: How can you tell if a filling is leaking? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Scientifically Proven Facts >About Mercury & Dental Amalgam This is great humor Jan! |
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