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Advocate147 - 28 May 2004 18:21 GMT
Hate to show ignorance.    But perhaps someone can help with information that
can be applied to my theory of stimulants being the cause of crohns by a mind
connection.   Realized that the theory cannot gain acceptance because there is
nothing to be seen, i.e. stem cell research, pill, etc.
Are there any other theories comparable (besides Einstein's) that have gained
acceptance after long thought impossible.  At least Jan's postings contain an
idea that can be seen which might produce some success.   No offense intended,
Jan.

Who does the writing for google, extracting information from certain websites
for the search form.    Was surprised to see certain information on "Gail
Michael Crohns" search that would reveal information not ordinarily given.   Of
course no one would search that particular info.

How did that person write spam to 825 million e-mails.  He must be a genius.
That would be advertising equal to any full page ad in an newspaper.   How
could a person resist, if it were a legitimate product.    It would be
difficult to even write an e-mail to one person and even crossposting is a
mystery to some.  
Thanx if any responses.
Gail
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 01:40 GMT
>Hate to show ignorance.    But perhaps someone can help with information that
>can be applied to my theory of stimulants being the cause of crohns by a mind
>connection.  

Could be ......

> Realized that the theory cannot gain acceptance because there is
>nothing to be seen, i.e. stem cell research, pill, etc.
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>Who does the writing for google, extracting information from certain websites
>for the search form.  

The Google gods .. .why do you ask?

>  Was surprised to see certain information on "Gail
>Michael Crohns" search that would reveal information not ordinarily given.   Of
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>Thanx if any responses.
>Gail
Advocate147 - 29 May 2004 03:46 GMT
Dr. Eichen,

Who are the google gods?
Come to think of it, how does all the information get written for the search
aspect.  Beginning to think my theory of a mind connection causing problems as
in crohns etc. is of a paranormal nature.   I always thought of it as just
fact.
But since it is not accepted by most people (an understatement) for lack of
scientific reasoning, it must be something abnormal.
But then, if someone were told the computer could send a message around the
world in a second, who would believe that, except it is proven fact.
Coincidentally, this evening I read about Einstein, "Although he kept an open
mind, Einstein considered telepathy unlikely because it seemed to defy physics.
 
Parapsychologists claimed distance between subjects did not affect their
telepathic success.  For Einstein, this contradicted the observation that
forces decline over distance."
 Desperately searching for an answer so the theory could be accepted as fact.
Probably impossible.  But it will eventually effect too many people, and one is
too many if it is someone we know or care about.
Will try to refrain from this any further, it probably belongs in the
crohns-colitis newsgroup, but my reputation there is nil.

Gail
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 12:03 GMT
>Dr. Eichen,
>
>Who are the google gods?

They are a bunch of dudes from ancient Greece who have been laying low
for a couple of thousand years and now they got their own
business.....

>Come to think of it, how does all the information get written for the search
>aspect.

GOOGLE (and others): A spider is a software program that "crawls the
web."

As it crawls the web, it catches either complete text, or meta-tags
(terms that describe what the site is about), or other information.
Addittionally, free programs such as Submit-It will submit your site
to the search engines. (I have more details if you are interested).

Google has a special algorithym that will direct the surfer to the
"most requested" site from similar searches. Technically, they employ
an Oracle database plus hundreds upon hundreds of cheap servers the
kind HP sells for a couple of hundred bucks. All the words are indexed
so you are pulling up the results of the index, not the actual text.

There is lots of redundancy built into the system.

How does Google make money? Right now the company is worth around $25
billion.If I search for Panasonic TVs as example, and they send me to
the right place where I end up buying, then they get 5% of what I
spend.

In addition, they sell keywords. I have used this in the past and its
worthwhile. I paid 3 cents a click. (Click through) for a keyword.

JOEL

> Beginning to think my theory of a mind connection causing problems as
>in crohns etc. is of a paranormal nature.   I always thought of it as just
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>
>Gail
Advocate147 - 29 May 2004 13:50 GMT
Dr Joel

Thanks a lot.  Understand a fraction of the explanation.    Almost as clear as
dentistry.    I always thought the ancient greeks were pretty smart.   Their
descendants are too.

Also, correction, that should be "it will eventually AFFECT too many people"
rather than effect.   Does it matter?

Gail
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 17:55 GMT
I am missing something .... or someone else wrote EFFECT. Or am I
really missing something?

I like corrections by the way .... so if its me, let me know!

JOEL

>Dr Joel
>
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>
>Gail
Advocate147 - 29 May 2004 18:23 GMT
No,. dear, my mistake.  Effect was in my text, when it should have been affect.

Gail
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 21:24 GMT
I am usually good about that stuff .....

JOEL

>No,. dear, my mistake.  Effect was in my text, when it should have been affect.
>
>Gail
Advocate147 - 29 May 2004 14:00 GMT
Also, I think Einstein must be wrong on saying telepathy unlikely because it
seemed to defy physics.  "Parapscychologists claimed distance between subject
did not affect their telepathic success.  For Einstein, this contradicted the
observation that forces decline over distance."  
The mind is not limited by distance.  It can go anywhere in the world meeting
another mind.   The theory I have is not limited by distance either.    The
mind connection can be anywhere in the world.  
As example, Eisenhower had crohns half a world away from his wife,  who I
thought must be on a stimulant.  She may have been an alcoholic so stimulants
are one step further.   Probably get sued for libel here, but I will say this
is only assumption. But the theory remains a fact.  Too much evidence to
retract.    A very, very sad truth.

Gail
StovePipe - 29 May 2004 18:39 GMT
> How does Google make money? Right now the company is worth around $25
> billion.If I search for Panasonic TVs as example, and they send me to
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>
> JOEL

JME, how does this work? I've never seen keywords advertised as being
for sale???.....
Thanks
SP
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Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 21:27 GMT
>> How does Google make money? Right now the company is worth around $25
>> billion.If I search for Panasonic TVs as example, and they send me to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Thanks
>SP

Yup, however one must be careful to make sure the words are specific
enough. If you type in "dentistry" as keyword, you will run up a huge
bill. Its too general. Some guy in Australia types in "dentistry" and
you get whacked for three cents.

So let's say you hone in on "Tooth Whitening in Quebec."

When people type that in, one of the little boxes at the right side of
the screen will be yours. It costs three cents per occurrence. Then
you link it to another page where you have your website, phone number,
etc.

JOEL
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 21:31 GMT
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>> How does Google make money? Right now the company is worth around $25
>> billion.If I search for Panasonic TVs as example, and they send me to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Thanks
>SP
StovePipe - 29 May 2004 17:30 GMT
> Dr. Eichen,
>
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> in crohns etc. is of a paranormal nature.   I always thought of it as just
> fact.
Gail: I don't think there IS an answer to your question at this point in
time. If it were me, I'd put it all on the back burner and adopt an
attitue that there is NO useful connection ( regardless of whether it
exists and can be proven). If you or one of your children are suffering
from Crohn's, the last thing you want is to aggravate the patient's
state of psychological balance, and raise false hopes and expectations.
You already know this. There are unconventional therapies for many
afflictions, but you don't want to give false expectations to your
patients, whether it costs them anything or not.

Also, you have to admit: Einstein knew a hell of a lot more about fields
than we do. If he said that fields diminish as the square of the
distance increase.... I think it is worth heeding.
HTH
SP

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Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S. - 29 May 2004 17:56 GMT
>Also, you have to admit: Einstein knew a hell of a lot more about fields
>than we do. If he said that fields diminish as the square of the
>distance increase.... I think it is worth heeding.
>HTH
>SP

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True. Wasn't it Einstein who said, "if we build it (the field) they
will come."
Advocate147 - 29 May 2004 18:38 GMT
Dear SP;

There is no answer to the dilemna facing the problem of stimulants being
harmful to a second party.   It's just one of the mysteries of life.  
Hard to put it on a back burner, when tons of people are suffering without
knowing the cause.   Just understanding WHAT is happening, helps.   Yes, it is
harmful to aggravate the patient's state of psychological balance, they do not
need the extra stress.   But some things can be done that are not allowed in US
very easily.    Tranquillizers like Valium and Ativan can reduce the stress and
fear of crohns, but are controlled substances.   The FDA should understand by
some miracle that they should be deregulated.  
While anti-depressants have their use, they also have their tremendous
drawback.
Who would go on an anti-depressant if they KNEW it would harm someone, if an
alternate is available.   Maybe Valium is addictive, not to everyone though,
and what is addiction compared to death that can occur.
I do realize barely anyone will be convinced, as anyone convinced against their
judgment, is not convinced at all.
Sincerely
Gail

I can talk all day on the subject, but to what avail?
 
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