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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / May 2004Dental work in European countries???
Hi, I just want to know if anyone has ever done any dental procedures in European countries such as Hungary, Slovakia. I read so much about good quality and lower prices of dental work in Europe. Dental treatments are so expensive in the US and I do not have dental insurance, so I am trying to find the other ways to afford great smile:) I would appreciate any information or experience. thanks Many USA people have their dental work done in UK on their vacation..... But Many English go to France for the same thing! Where to the French go? > Hi, I just want to know if anyone has ever done any dental procedures > in European countries such as Hungary, Slovakia. I read so much about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I would appreciate any information or experience. > thanks in Poland we have people from all over the world from England,USA etc > Many USA people have their dental work done in UK on their vacation..... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I would appreciate any information or experience. > > thanks You must take into consideration that You are going to treat your teeth far from yours home? sometimes seemingly expencess are lower ...what about complications ? > in Poland we have people from all over the world > from England,USA etc [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > I would appreciate any information or experience. > > > thanks > in Poland we have people from all over the world > from England,USA etc [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Where to the French go? One thing that I forgot to mention: If I had to get dental work done in Eastern Europe, I'd see Krzysztof. He is keeping up with modern dentistry. That would count for a lot in my opinion, especially re: sterilization procedures and accepted standard of practice. One thing you also want: a dentist who can say 'no, I can't/won't do what you are asking because...'. I really feel that our first responsibility is to educate our patients. Again, this is my opinion. Choos SP  SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > in Poland we have people from all over the world > from England,USA etc [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > I would appreciate any information or experience. > > > thanks >Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. And it's worth every cent. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. > > And it's worth every cent. Do you live and practice in Michigan? Signature-History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-: --- http://PMeiers.bei.t-online.de/index.htm --- ------------------------------------------------- I do, George does not. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > > > >Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. > > > > And it's worth every cent. > > Do you live and practice in Michigan? > Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. All right, I give up: what is the story behind this? Choos SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... Around one year ago, a Scot, named Andrew actually flew from Scotland to Troy, Michigan, not to buy K-Mart stock but to get some excellent root canal therapy (by George) and excellent Cerec work by Steve as part of their own personal educational program. KUDOs to them! JOEL >> Some people fly from Scotland to Michigan to get dental work. > >All right, I give up: what is the story behind this? >Choos >SP I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. The history of that event should show up in the Google archives. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Around one year ago, a Scot, named Andrew actually flew from Scotland > to Troy, Michigan, not to buy K-Mart stock but to get some excellent [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Choos > >SP > I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. > > The history of that event should show up in the Google archives. GoogleGroups on what? Andrew, DrSteve and W_B? SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... Start your search for the User Name of: "Harry" Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > > I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > GoogleGroups on what? Andrew, DrSteve and W_B? > SP > Start your search for the User Name of: "Harry" Oh, BLIMEY, that's a big help... How long am I going to spend doing THAT???? I have a WORLD to manage... George Bush on the phone, Miterand faxing hourly, patients stacked up four deep.... OK, I'll see... SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... I mistyped,,,, sorry it should have been Harry . Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > > Start your search for the User Name of: "Harry" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > OK, I'll see... > SP >I mistyped,,,, sorry it should have been Harry . "Harr3y", yes I looked it up. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Spell checker,,,,,,,,,,,,, Harr3y Signature`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan USA =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= . > I mistyped,,,, sorry it should have been Harry . > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > OK, I'll see... > > SP >> I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. >> >> The history of that event should show up in the Google archives. > >GoogleGroups on what? Andrew, DrSteve and W_B? >SP Andrew also used Harr3y for a bit. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>> I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Andrew also used Harr3y for a bit. Was Harr3y angry? JOEL >>>> I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Was Harr3y angry? At the previous dentist, but only for a 'short time' ;-]] >JOEL -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >> I just got a personal email from Andrew this morning. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Andrew also used Harr3y for a bit. > -- Well, that helps a bit... I'll phone Scotland and ask for Andrew Harr3y and see how long they laugh b/4 hanging up... Choos SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... I have heard of guys flying to Thailand for a cheap er umm er weekend. ;) > Around one year ago, a Scot, named Andrew actually flew from Scotland > to Troy, Michigan, not to buy K-Mart stock but to get some excellent [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Choos > >SP > Many USA people have their dental work done in UK on their vacation..... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I would appreciate any information or experience. > > thanks I really don't know, but I'll tell you: here in Quebec, I see some French tourists in emegergency situations (off the cruise ships mostly) and their state insured dental work is HORRIBLE. While it is not realistic to judge by this alone, their dental work in general is substandard. If you Brits are going to France to get dental work, it must surely be in private clinics. FWIW, I know one of my American patients (yes, some come here to see me, especially in the summertime) had a bridge put in in Prague, and it was not up to North American standards. This is why I didn't answer b/4. My patient is a painter and graphic artist with a very unusual style. He has to keep it cheap, and so he is satisfied with his dental work. I would not be. I don't want to generalize, but the a lot of European dental work that I see here doesn't impress me much. I've seen the occasional Japanese tourist and their work is very well done. Ditto for Scandinavians and Germans. Take this for what it is worth: one man's opinion and not a scientific survey. Choos SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... > I really don't know, but I'll tell you: here in Quebec, I see some > French tourists in emegergency situations (off the cruise ships mostly) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Choos > SP I agree with what you say here. While there are always exceptions, in general, the quality of work I have seen from Europe is often poor, this includes some work from Germany and England. Patients from eastern eurpoe and Russia have had some very substandard work. The materials used are sometimes what are employed to fabricate temporary restorations here in North America! I have found work from Japan to be quite artfully done, but have had a few patients with extensive porcelain work that was not very durable. It seems form takes precedence over function. Not meant to offend...just what I have seen. T > I agree with what you say here. While there are always exceptions, in > general, the quality of work I have seen from Europe is often poor, this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > T So, there you go. Another opinion based on observation rather than prejuduce. Thanks, Tony. Again, one must be careful, but from what I know of Japanese dentistry, they are VERY into close collaboration between dentist and lab technician. This may be what you're seeing in those mouths. Choos SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... I saw prosthetic from England and It was nothing impressive Country isnt important...Its depends on dentist and financial condition of patient! Of course if somebody wants to have something cheap -Its his choice I must admit that prices are different between various countries---its normal :)) > > I agree with what you say here. While there are always exceptions, in > > general, the quality of work I have seen from Europe is often poor, this [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > To reply: take out the TRASH... > I saw prosthetic from England and It was nothing impressive > Country isnt important...Its depends on dentist and financial condition of > patient! > Of course if somebody wants to have something cheap -Its his choice > I must admit that prices are different between various countries---its > normal :)) I agree 100%. My comment was about general standards. I am certain there are caring, well qualified dentists performing miracles in all parts of the globe! T We have patients who will not come back if they move 0.,5 miles away ........... in Europe they go to nearby countries ....... >> I saw prosthetic from England and It was nothing impressive >> Country isnt important...Its depends on dentist and financial condition of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >T being in Canada on skies of some years ago,I asked about track to Whistler.The worker of filling station answered,that there have no notions where this ii.This event was 10-20 km from Whistler curort > We have patients who will not come back if they move 0.,5 miles away > ........... in Europe they go to nearby countries ....... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > >T > being in Canada on skies of some years ago,I asked about track to > Whistler.The worker of filling station answered,that there have no notions > where this ii.This event was 10-20 km from Whistler curort > > We have patients who will not come back if they move 0.,5 miles away > > ........... in Europe they go to nearby countries ....... ...Ignorance has no boundaries and no social or monetary class. I've lived long enough to learn that... Choos SP SignatureTo reply: take out the TRASH... >> being in Canada on skies of some years ago,I asked about track to >> Whistler.The worker of filling station answered,that there have no notions [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Choos >SP ..... and let's be aware that the root for the word "irgorant" is "to ignore" meaning simply not being informed. JOEL > So, there you go. Another opinion based on observation rather than > prejuduce. Thanks, Tony. Again, one must be careful, but from what I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Choos > SP I had one Japanese patient who had a mouth full of gold inlays and onlays, all of which had remarkable anatomy in them. They were each a work of art and the restorations were all clinically perfect.. It was some of the best work I have ever seen. Believe it or not this patient had come to me for a second opinion after seeing one of my areas "leading cosmetic dentists" (who is big on the lecture circuit) who wanted to take all these masterpieces out and replace with porcelain. I honestly wanted to go down to his office and throttle him! My only issue with work from Japan is that I have had a few instances of what I felt was a high rate of porcelain failure. T >>So, there you go. Another opinion based on observation rather than >>prejuduce. Thanks, Tony. Again, one must be careful, but from what I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > T I agree with your general assessment. I did have a patient when I was in dental school from Osaka, Japan. I fulfilled half of my endo requirements re-treating his paste endos. Of course, none of them were symptomatic, none had areas, but NYU wanted them retreated anyway. This morning I treated a patient from Haiti who bemoaned the bad state of dentistry there. Of course, Haiti being as poor as it is, "luxuries" such as good dental care probably are hard to find. I sadly had to assure him though that substandard care can be found pretty much everywhere. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY Do you suppose it has to do with the type of people who move here from those countries? I have seen the same trend, except for some really strange looking stuff out of Japan. Of course every country (including this one) has "hacks" who should not be allowed to touch a handpiece. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > > I really don't know, but I'll tell you: here in Quebec, I see some [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > T >Hi, I just want to know if anyone has ever done any dental procedures >in European countries such as Hungary, Slovakia. Nope. I do not have a Slovak license. JOEL >I read so much about >good quality and lower prices of dental work in Europe. Dental [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I would appreciate any information or experience. >thanks Who do you consult when it goes bad? |
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