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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / July 2009Is there anyone out there who has an actual, real-life dentistry type question?
What has happened to our newsgroup? Where are all the interesting questions that were once posed about actual, everyday, dental concerns? Why is it that someone(thing?) named Jan Drew can monopolize our NG. Freedom of the 'net I guess. And of course this NG is free/ gratis/no charge/kostenlos yada yada. But see what happens... thoughtful participants disappear and real patients are intimidated by these internet bullies and never post again! Actually, 10 years ago this NG was great. I only ever heard about Boyd and the NTI on this NG. I've tried to warn about PerioProtect. What happened to Hans Lenros, Stovepipe, John & Ninetta, Joel Eichen, USW? But some internet denizens (sharks?) like (whoever the hell she/he/it is) Jan Drew have screwed it up for all of us. I'm just really bummed out because I really liked this NG until about 2 weeks ago. > What has happened to our newsgroup? The fact is, the Usenet is a dying idea. Many groups that I have been active in for years are now dying on the vine. With AT&T cutting off access, we will lose another big group of players next month. >. What happened to Hans Lenros, Stovepipe, John & Ninetta, Joel Eichen, >USW Yep. I miss all of those folks. > I'm just really bummed out because I really liked this NG until about > 2 weeks ago. Dump Google Groups! Get free (or cheap) access to a real NNTP server access it through OE or some other news reader program, and then set up a simple killfile. Bang! the bozos are gone.  Signature- Vaughn ........................................................ Nothing personal, but if you are posting through Google Groups I may not receive your message. Google refuses to control the flood of spam messages originating in their system, so on any given day I may or may not have Google blocked. Try a real NNTP server & news reader program and you will never go back. All you need is access to an NNTP server (AKA "news server") and a news reader program. You probably already have a news reader program in your computer (Hint: Outlook Express). Assuming that your Usenet needs are modest, use http://www.cnntp.org/ and/or, http://news.aioe.org/ and/or http://www.motzarella.org/ and/or https://www.x-privat.org/index.php for free, and/or http://www.teranews.com/ for a one-time $3.95 setup fee. Newsguy, http://www.newsguy.com/ offers a variety of reasonably priced services. If you wish to experiment with real Usenet access, they will give you a free 2-day trial account. ....... Hi, Vaughn, >> What has happened to our newsgroup? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>. What happened to Hans Lenros, Stovepipe, John & Ninetta, Joel Eichen, >>USW I tought so, too. > Yep. I miss all of those folks. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >access it through OE or some other news reader program, and then set up a >simple killfile. Bang! the bozos are gone. Yes, Google is a pest. Since I started I use Forte Agent - and it still is the best program available. Aribert Signature"Weiber sind von der Natur zum gemeinschaftlichen Genuß bestimmt." (Kapokrates, Frühchrist und Klostergründer) Mehr über den klerikalen Frauenverschleiß: http://www.reimbibel.de >> What has happened to our newsgroup? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >access it through OE or some other news reader program, and then set up a >simple killfile. Bang! the bozos are gone. Terranews is free for a one time set up fee. ( 9.99 ?) There is a download limit IIRC. It's summertime, SMD usually gets a little slow. Party On ! Excellent ! -Bill & Ted > There is a download limit IIRC. Download limits are rarely a concern for access to text-only groups. Binary groups can be a whole different deal. Vaughn >> There is a download limit IIRC. > > Download limits are rarely a concern for access to text-only groups. >Binary groups can be a whole different deal. > >Vaughn Just trying to be complete with the details. > What has happened to our newsgroup? Where are all the interesting > questions that were once posed about actual, everyday, dental [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I'm just really bummed out because I really liked this NG until about > 2 weeks ago. This too shall pass. But there is an entropic death of Usenet in the making. Twitter and it's ilk are a near perfect substitute and they're as close as your cell phone. Instead of long winded questions/ answers/diatribes, there are 140 characters. It's like the old joke: 83! R >> What has happened to our newsgroup? Where are all the interesting >> questions that were once posed about actual, everyday, dental [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > R I don't know that one! ;-) If tenth is mourning the loss of Joel, Hans, John and Ninetta, Stovie, he's been in mourning for a lot more than 2 weeks. Truth is, it's been going down a long time, and it may be entropic, in the sense that so many ISPs have dropped their news feeds. But you're also right that most of the newsgroups go through paroxisms of spam, porn, etc. And sci.med is actually much worse. Most of the newsgroups seem to require a critical mass of involved regular posters to keep things from getting overrun. And those that are still relatively healthy are not necessarily the ones I'd think would survive. But then, I'm a lousy stock picker too. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 > And sci.med is actually much worse. Most of the newsgroups seem to > require a critical mass of involved regular posters to keep things from > getting overrun. The regular posters are like weed control, spam being the weeds. >> And sci.med is actually much worse. Most of the newsgroups seem to >> require a critical mass of involved regular posters to keep things from >> getting overrun. > >The regular posters are like weed control, spam being the weeds. Then that would make you a dandelion, right simpleton? <plonk> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT), Simplicio > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > <plonk> hey my jaw still hurts, and there's a question their somewhere. Maybe Newb can just verbally demolish me, I haven't gotten it that good since anyways. > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT), Simplicio > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > <plonk> Certainly not, only in your little retarded, mercury cover up/ mode- minded ADA brain. >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT), Simplicio >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Certainly not, only in your little retarded, mercury cover up/ mode- >minded ADA brain. Love the smell of vitriol in the morning. At least he didn't say, "You play ball like a girl!" ;-) D >>Certainly not, only in your little retarded, mercury cover up/ mode- >>minded ADA brain. > > Love the smell of vitriol in the morning. > At least he didn't say, "You play ball like a girl!" > > ;-) > D I have no idea what you are goin for there. It's too bad that the well-read and educated people on this list don't recognize the Simplicio character. As you may recall, in order to popularize his theory, Galelio published a play. One character argued for his theory and one against. In that play what simpleton argued for the Sun revolves around the Earth theory...? > > At least he didn't say, "You play ball like a girl!" > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > In that play what simpleton argued for the Sun revolves around the > Earth theory...? In other words, the idea was to use the simplico character when making pro-amalgam arguments only, but it is too difficult to toggle the nicknames if I make an out of character comment On Jun 18, 10:40 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote: > I don't know that one! ;-) > If tenth is mourning the loss of Joel, Hans, John and Ninetta, Stovie, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > necessarily the ones I'd think would survive. But then, I'm a lousy > stock picker too. I know - I follow your picks and do a Costanza and pick just the opposite. I'm loaded! ;) Two newsgroups I frequented died ignominiously. One had a major league flame war and one of the flamers was the top all-time poster. When he dropped out it slowly dwindled to where now there's only a few posts a week. In another one, most of the posters drifted over to a more active newsgroup with an overlapping topic, and the first one just kind of shriveled up and died. I think that there is a critical "mass" of postings required for a newsgroup to survive. Unfortunately, what generally happens is the outside questions dry up for a spell and the regulars start shooting the breeze about all sorts of off-topic stuff or just don't post very often. Then, when a newbie with a question drops by to investigate, they don't find an active give-and-take, just an old boys' club. The newbie may or may not stick around to post a question. Probably the only way to prevent that scenario on a low-volume newsgroup is to have the regulars actually discuss stuff that is on topic during the slow periods. In this newsgroup that would entail discussing cases, procedures and approaches. That would attract more professionals, which would in turn attract more newbies (aka fresh meat!). R |
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