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manuelderegil@gmail.com - 20 Mar 2009 21:14 GMT
I am the person who originally responded to razor with my own personal
experience with a perioprotect provider.  I am grateful for an honest
response as to the value of this so called therapy.  However, it
outrages me that this kind of scam goes on.  I work at a non-profit,
and my salary does not allow me to throw money at a problem.  The
dentist that I had, had written a treatment plan which would of
required 4 trays at $500.00 per tray, in addition to the other
treatment which I sought.  What started me questioning his plan was
the way the whole office pushed the product (personal testimony from
all the assistants that they were getting trays, in house financing
available from capitol 1, jacking up the price when I tried to get
them to comply with the conditions of the insurance policy of 25%
discount on all uncovered procedures and materials.)  The dentist
would not address my original problem of multiple broken teeth until I
began using perio protect.  I am now beginning treatment with another
dentist, however when I was relating my experience to the assistant
who was making my appointment, she told me that he probably would not
address any of my issues until giving me a local antibiotic (also not
covered by insurance).

You may call my changing dentist a market based solution, however, to
me, it solves very little.
Frankly, I'm disgusted.  One of the principle reasons for my dental
problems is inconsistent treatment.  It has been hard getting good
care when you have to change dentist because they drop your insurance,
or you employer changes insurance providers, or someone rips you off
and you now find it hard to trust the treatment that is offered.  To
me it seems that the system is broken
oralhealth@comcast.net - 20 Mar 2009 22:28 GMT
> I am the person who originally responded to razor with my own personal
> experience with a perioprotect provider.  I am grateful for an honest
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> and you now find it hard to trust the treatment that is offered.  To
> me it seems that the system is broken

This is one of the reasons I wrote my book---- to reveal the science
or lack of science with dentistry.  The lack of science promotes
unnecessary or questionable treatment.

David DiBenedetto, DMD
oralhealth@comcast.net - 20 Mar 2009 22:32 GMT
> I am the person who originally responded to razor with my own personal
> experience with a perioprotect provider.  I am grateful for an honest
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> and you now find it hard to trust the treatment that is offered.  To
> me it seems that the system is broken

Also  the best randomized prospective studies on periodontal treatment
were done by Ramjford ---- split design of the mouth using different
treatment modalities with periodontal disease.

David DiBenedetto, DMD,   author of "Insider's guide to gum disease,
orthodontics and dentistry.  What  is not taught in dental school."
vaughn - 21 Mar 2009 00:38 GMT
> Frankly, I'm disgusted.  One of the principle reasons for my dental
> problems is inconsistent treatment.  It has been hard getting good
> care when you have to change dentist because they drop your insurance,
> or you employer changes insurance providers, or someone rips you off
> and you now find it hard to trust the treatment that is offered.  To
> me it seems that the system is broken

What you are seeing is not caused so much by the dentists as by the
financial squeeze that the insurance industry applies to dentists.

After dealing with many of the same issues for several years, I finally
wised up and pitched the "free" dental insurance provided by my employer in
favor of a dentist who treats me fairly, but does not take insurance.
Suddenly I "need" far less treatment and by dental health has never been
better.  Like clockwork, I go in for my 6-month appointment expecting to pay
a fair price for a real cleaning by a real RDH and an honest exam by a real
dentist.  The office makes money off of me even if all I receive is the
preventive care.  They do not need to cheat to survive.

After doing this without fail for the last five or six years, I feel like
the results are clear!  I suddenly need far less treatment than I did
before.   I am money ahead, and my teeth are in far better condition than
they would have been with the continued overtreatment.

Vaughn
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 21 Mar 2009 17:22 GMT
>> Frankly, I'm disgusted.  One of the principle reasons for my dental
>> problems is inconsistent treatment.  It has been hard getting good
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> What you are seeing is not caused so much by the dentists as by the
> financial squeeze that the insurance industry applies to dentists.

    Frankly, I'm not inclined to give the dentist a free ride on this one.
 Being squeezed by insurance companies (and we are) is not a valid
excuse for wacky treatment schemes that are not in the insurance contract.

Steve

> After dealing with many of the same issues for several years, I finally
> wised up and pitched the "free" dental insurance provided by my employer in
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>
> Vaughn

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