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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / October 2008Could fresh blood be used as a cavity lining on exposed bits of pulp?
I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. >I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. Where did you read that ? On 17 Oct, 19:20, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. > > Where did you read that ? http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q="dry+socket"+fresh+blood&meta= http://www.healthmantra.com/hctrust/dry_socket.shtml Here's one example... ----quote---- If dry socket develops do a simple trick it works for 99.99% cases, take a sharp sickle scaler and scrap the gums surrounding socket, let fresh blood fill the socket, give a pack (wet squeezed gauze) -----quote---- >On 17 Oct, 19:20, New...@bix.nex wrote: >> >I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >fresh blood fill the socket, give a pack (wet squeezed gauze) >-----quote---- Have heard of curretting the socket. This practice is not scientifically sound and strongly discouraged. Do you have any idea how tender a fresh extraction site is ??!! On Oct 18, 6:57 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >On 17 Oct, 19:20, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >> >I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - How about using blood taken from elsewhere on the body with a syringe then drip onto the cavity? >On Oct 18, 6:57 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: >> >On 17 Oct, 19:20, New...@bix.nex wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >How about using blood taken from elsewhere on the body with a syringe >then drip onto the cavity? An just what is that supposed to do ? It would wash away in just a matter of seconds. I see no valid treatment with your "approach". On Oct 21, 11:27 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >On Oct 18, 6:57 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >> >On 17 Oct, 19:20, New...@bix.nex wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - How long does it take for blood to coagulate? What it the tooth was kept dry for half an hour? >On Oct 21, 11:27 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: >> >On Oct 18, 6:57 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >How long does it take for blood to coagulate? Depends. >What it the tooth was kept dry for half an hour? It still wouldn't fix your problem. Go see a dentist in real life already !!! Kind of a lot of work when Eugenol soaked Nu-Gauze or Septodont's Alvogyl work fine. What is the benefit? Whose blood? Dry Socket AKA... Alveolar Alveolitis >Kind of a lot of work when Eugenol soaked Nu-Gauze or Septodont's >Alvogyl work fine. What is the benefit? Whose blood? Even the above is a lot of uncomfortable work IMO. You have to bring the patient back to remove Iodoform; have no experience with Alvogyl. Gently irrigate crypt with 3 % H2O2 diluted with 1/2 warm H2O from a Monoject 412 syringe to flush out debris. Gently fill socket with Getz Surgical Dressing <note below**> from the 'bottom up'; (also use a 412). Place 2X2 for 3 to 7 min until relief is apparent. Discard. Gauze is only used to soak up XS and to help prevent taste/swallowing. **Getz is no longer commercially made to my knowledge. A local compounding pharmacy makes it for other practitioners and me. The formula is readily available, and your local 'compounding' pharmacy should be glad to make it for you. On 18 Oct, 00:02, New...@bix.nex wrote: > Dry Socket > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > and me. The formula is readily available, and your local 'compounding' > pharmacy should be glad to make it for you. I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little then healed pink then white or yellow. What's happening there? > I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little > then > healed pink then white or yellow. > > What's happening there? You have chronic granulation tissue forming--I've seen this occasionally. It is NOT normal pulpal tissue. Why this condition can apparently continue for quite some time, it is generally infected, and cannot be considered functionally healed. The proper treatment is root canal treatment or extraction. Steve  SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little >> then [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Steve Pulp polyp perhaps. >>> I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little >>> then [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pulp polyp perhaps. That's what I was thinking. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >>>> What's happening there? >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve IME by the time that this flatulently develops, the only rational, reasonable, and rectifying treatment, is removal. >>>> What's happening there? >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve Fulminating flatulence, forwardly fearful of full firey flaming flatus. Don't that just burn yer a.. ? <hehe> Sorry, couldn't help myself. On 18 Oct, 18:58, New...@bix.nex wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:49:02 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - In google groups it says above your message... "Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 5 days (25 Oct, 18:58). " Can I ask why you don't want your messages archived? On Oct 18, 6:58 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: > > You have chronic granulation tissue forming--I've seen this > >occasionally. It is NOT normal pulpal tissue. Why this condition can [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pulp polyp perhaps.- Hide quoted text - I found a picture of a pulp polyp which looks like gum tissue in the middle of the tooth - I don't have that. Granulation tissue - isn't that the formation of bone? >On Oct 18, 6:58 pm, New...@bix.nex wrote: >> > You have chronic granulation tissue forming--I've seen this [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I found a picture of a pulp polyp which looks like gum tissue in the >middle of the tooth - I don't have that. To the untrained eye maybe. Self diagnosis is a dangerous thing, even for practitioners. >Granulation tissue - isn't that the formation of bone? No, not really. > You have chronic granulation tissue forming--I've seen this > occasionally. It is NOT normal pulpal tissue. Why this condition can > apparently continue for quite some time, it is generally infected, and > cannot be considered functionally healed. > The proper treatment is root canal treatment or extraction. Infected? Is there some kind of swab test which can test for microbes or bacteria? >> You have chronic granulation tissue forming--I've seen this >> occasionally. It is NOT normal pulpal tissue. Why this condition can [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Infected? Is there some kind of swab test which can test for microbes > or bacteria? Since there is no effective treatment except for extraction or root canal, a swab would be of little utility. In any case, a bacterial culture will probably show a variety of both normal resident organisms, together with probably some infective bugs (mostly strep. sp.) Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little >then >healed pink then white or yellow. > >What's happening there? Huh ? Can you post a picture ? On 18 Oct, 18:52, New...@bix.nex wrote: > >I have some exposed bits of pulp that sometimes have bled a little > >then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Can you post a picture ? I tried taking a picture but its blurred. Do I need specialised equipment? >I've read freshly drawn blood being used to treat dry socket. Your preoccupation with 'fresh blood' suggests a vampyrific interest. Bwahahaha.... All Hallow's Eve is near, no ? Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was discovered. Try direct pulp cap with MTA > Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when > they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was > discovered. Yes , foreign dental schools teach about MTA also, they even teach abouth teeth , can you believe that? Why not a license for breathing air for foreigners coming to USA? First that license, after that dental school all over again! BRAVO US DENTAL BOARDS! > Try direct pulp cap with MTA > >> Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when >> they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was >> discovered. Dear CA-DDS This guy has been asking this same question for almost a year. Refuses to post a picture. Wants to use 'blood' as a 'pulp cap' and refuses to have professional treatment. Just wait until you meet Keith P. Walsh. >Try direct pulp cap with MTA > >> Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when >> they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was >> discovered. >Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when >they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was >discovered. Seems there was something about macerated frog tissue, think it was in France, go figure. Remember Hesi Ré !!! Dentist to the Pharaohs > Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when > they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was > discovered. Are there any articles using fresh blood as a pulp cap? Searching google I struggled to find any! Perhaps nobody has tried it! >> Really, if this worked, it would have been tried long ago, probably when >> they were experimenting with sparrow droppings just before amalgam was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Searching google I struggled to find any! Perhaps nobody has tried it! Go to a real dentist in real life already. Sheesh ! |
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