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Fibromyalgia and TMJ pain, TMD, or facial pain

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oralhealth@comcast.net - 15 Jul 2008 01:02 GMT
How many physicians or dentists are or were trained in learning about
fibromyalgia?

How many cases of "TMJ" like pain are really early signs of
fibromyalgia?

My patients who have fibromyalgia have (1) TMJ facial pain,  (2)
pressure point pain in the neck  (3) sensitivity to temperature, and
(4) difficulty in sleeping.

How many cases of "TMJ" pain are not  fibromyalgia?

...David DiBenedetto, DMD....practicing dentist and author, "Insider's
guide to gum disease, orthodontics, and dentistry.  What is not taught
in dental school."
Newbie@bix.nex - 15 Jul 2008 04:18 GMT
>...David DiBenedetto, DMD....practicing

...idot

Go away, no one wants your ego stroker.
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 15 Jul 2008 23:59 GMT
An opinion from a non-practicing idiot.     I think Fibro-myalgia is an
offshoot of crohns disease.     Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
incident.   The person involved thought she had fibro-myalgia from the
silver fillings she had and replaced them all with other fillings.
Claimed she felt better.    We had a mutual friend on anti-depressants she
was quite friendly with at the time and then the friendship faded
somewhat.     Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
Gail
oralhealth@comcast.net - 16 Jul 2008 01:33 GMT
On Jul 15, 6:59 pm, "news.chi.sbcglobal.net"
<kureforcro...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> An opinion from a non-practicing idiot.     I think Fibro-myalgia is an
> offshoot of crohns disease.     Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> somewhat.     Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
> Gail

Dear Gail,

Of my 1/2 dozen Crohn's patients, only one has tmj symptoms.   Her
TMJ symptoms today are not that bad.    Interesting observation.  She
has anterior guidance with a somehwhat small  lower  jaw.   Maybe
Crohn's patients have a higher incidence of TMJ problems than the
general public.   None of my patients who have fibromyalgia have
Crohn's disease.

But,  A patient I saw last week, who suffered from TMJ sympyoms in the
past, I treated her over a year ago for tmj by adjusting her bite,
removing group and balancing side function and putting her into
anterior guidance.   She had tremendous relief then, and came back for
a broken filling last week, and she presented with the symptoms of
fibromyalgia, pressure points, taking sleep medicine all the time,
cold sensitivity but she had thyroid cancer a year ago and she said
her pressure points pain began about 10 years ago after she was in a
car accident.

...David DiBenedetto, DMD
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 16 Jul 2008 02:17 GMT
This post includes some reference to crohns disease, so the persons that
object to this may wish to bypasss this post.    Thank You
Dr. DiBenedetto,
I cannot say for certain, but I doubt TMJ is associated with crohns disease.
At the same time, nothing can be excluded from crohns as it has multiple
symptoms, many not recognized, being a very weird and strange non
nmainstream illness about which very little is known.  (except for
treatment)   But in all discussions here, TMJ was not mentioned in the same
bracket as crohns disease.   Fibromyalgia is usually, (far as I know)
diagnosed as a separate illness than crohns.   My discussion of crohns
disease is not popular on this group, so I hesitate to go further.    But
desire overcomes me to tell you what I think crohns is caused by briefly.
It is caused by stimulants, anti-depressants being the most.   When one
person is on a stimulant, there is the uncanny ability unknown to all
parties, to send harm in the form of crohns from the user of the stimulant
to a person he knows by mind/body connection, literally.  I know it is hard
to believe that what one person ingests can harm another.  The harm
continues in spite of distance, the two or more persons can be miles and
miles apart, still the damage continues.  Only the mind and stimulant is at
work.   Physicians do not know this, and dentists do not.   To both,
everything is a natural progression of what must be of organic origin.    I
see differently and experience differently and I am certain of what I know.
There is a blog? under my screen name      KUREFORCROHNS         on aol
search.     Apparently, they do not think  (is it google)  it too strange to
print.    They perhaps use it to advertise products for crohns disease.
Since the discussion of crohns or any related comment about it is unwelcome
here, I will end my post.    That it does affect teeth and gums does not
alter the unwelcome aspect of acceptance.   Actually, how would the dentist
know what the reason is for sudden bleeding gums or other symptoms.
Sincerely
Gail Michael
Jan Drew - 16 Jul 2008 02:21 GMT
> An opinion from a non-practicing idiot.     I think Fibro-myalgia is an
> offshoot of crohns disease.     Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> somewhat.     Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
> Gail

That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.
Dartos - 16 Jul 2008 14:08 GMT
> That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.

Posted from the department of redundancy department.

;-)
D
Jan Drew - 17 Jul 2008 06:00 GMT
>> That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
> That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.
The Webby - 17 Jul 2008 16:44 GMT
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<cda2be93-e1d9-4b58-a023-5a774d2a0cfa@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

> How many cases of "TMJ" pain are not  fibromyalgia?

One that I know of.

Webby
 
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