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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:38:18 -0500,
in article <34bcs3t3k1lrrm6ens66omvfegp6me4ndd@4ax.com>,
>>Thessalonians 2:3
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>Already happened.
2 Peter 3 says the heavens and earth would be destroyed by
fire, and it was talking about the heavens and earth made by
the word of God, with the land rising out of water, which were
previously destroyed by the flood, and which now are, not some
spiritual principle the context of that passage nowhere
indicates.
Romans 11 also says the fulness of the Gentiles will "be come
in" (past), when the deliverer comes out of Zion, and Gentiles
are still being saved today. Dave tries to claim that must be
referring to a "glass" of fulness that would come in by A.D.
70, but there is absolutely nothing in the text of that
passage to sustain that idea.
There was also no bodily resurrection of the saints in A.D.
70, as it said there would be when Christ returns (1 Cor. 15;
1 Thess. 4:13-18; Php. 3:21).
Dave knows full well the heavens and earth were not destroyed,
the fulness of the Gentiles did not come in, and that the
saints did not rise in A.D. 70. This is why he is FORCED to
believe and invent ridiculous lies, through the gradual,
line-by-line deviation of endless filibusters, to prevent his
whole preterist system of lies from crashing to the ground.
1) Heaven and earth were not destroyed by fire in A.D. 70 (2
Peter 3).
2) The saints did not rise from the graves in A.D. 70 (1 Cor.
15; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; Php. 3:21).
3) Christ did not return in the manner they saw Him depart in
A.D. 70 (Acts 1:9ff.).
4) The fulness of the Gentiles did not come in A.D. 70 (Romans
11:25ff.).
5) The deliverer did not come from Zion to save Israel in A.D.
70 (Romans 11:25ff. Ps. 14:7; Isa. 59:20)!
6) Christ's kingdom did not smash Rome in the groin, let alone
do it in A.D. 70 (Dan. 2)!
7) Rome was not yet even divided into two legs (Rome and
Constantinople), in A.D. 70 (Dan. 2).
8) Rome was not a ten kingdom confederation of iron mixed with
clay in A.D. 70 (Dan. 2).
9) Titus did not confirm the covenant with the Jews for a week
(Dan. 9:27).
10) Titus did not set himself up as God in the Temple (2
Thess. 2).
11) Christ did not cast Titus and Rome into the lake of fire
in A.D. 70 (Rev. 19).
12) Satan was not bound in A.D. 70 (Rev. 20).
13) The saints did not reign with Christ for a thousand years,
in A.D. 70 (Rev. 20).
14) The present heavens and earth did not flee in A.D. 70
(Rev. 20).
15) Christ did not mount the Great White throne of judgment in
A.D. 70 (Rev. 20).
16) The unsaved dead of all ages were not judged and cast into
the lake of fire in A.D. 70 (Rev. 20).
17) A new heavens and earth did not appear in A.D. 70 (Rev.
21-22).
18) Death, sorrow, crying, and abominations were not
eliminated in A.D. 70 (Rev. 21-22).
>Why do people read the Bible
>as if it were written just the day before THEY opened
>one for the first time?!
No, why do you read the Bible as if it was only written to
people living in the first century? It is indisputable that
many Bible prophecies have not been fulfilled, therefore it is
completely appropriate to believe they will.
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We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist - 28 Feb 2008 20:54 GMT
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:38:18 -0500,
>
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> many Bible prophecies have not been fulfilled, therefore it is
> completely appropriate to believe they will.
And most importantly neither was the gospel preached to ALL NATIONS as a
witness by AD 70 either.
"14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a
witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Matt 24:14 (KJV)
Jeff...
> convicted neighbor Blackdruid <thalesin@gmail.com> spake thusly:
>
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> Already happened.
Indeed, the "man of sin" has been revealed more than one year ago on
02.15.2007 (see below).
May we pray for the perishing soul of the atheist:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PrayForCary
"Concerning the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ and our being gathered
to HIM, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or
alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from
us, saying that the day of the LORD has already come. Don't let anyone
deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the
rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man
doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over
everything that is called GOD or is worshiped, so that he sets himself
up in GOD's temple, proclaiming himself to be GOD." (2 Thessalonians
2:1-3)
The heart is GOD's temple.
The atheist is the man of lawlessness:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8713a331296fef9?
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Cary Kittrell - 28 Feb 2008 17:03 GMT
> > convicted neighbor Blackdruid <thalesin@gmail.com> spake thusly:
> >
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> http://HeartMDPhD.com/PrayForCary
Pastor Dave voted me off the island some years back.
So now what's a poor Pastor to do?
Hey: I've got it! Maybe he could help you in your
hopeless quest to find a single non Chung-related
medical site that refers to visceral adipose
tissue as "black fat".
Huh? Huh? Whaddya think?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Feb 2008 17:16 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
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> > Indeed, the "man of sin" has been revealed more than one year ago on
> > 02.15.2007 (see below).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8713a331296fef9?
> > May we pray for the perishing soul of the atheist:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/PrayForCary
>
> Pastor Dave voted me off the island some years back.
You remain a beacon that is unwittingly serving well to warn others
away from unwisely blaspheming against the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell
May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword