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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / March 2008Is the Chinese Cardiologist Andrew B Chung a gift to sci.med.cardiology ?
Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in this Newsgroup... Are there anymore Chinese Docs around? > Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in > this Newsgroup... > > Are there anymore Chinese Docs around? >> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in >> this Newsgroup... Ok, I will answer that for you, and therefore put to you that real "Cardiologists" are put off by you and hence choose not to be associated with you in any shape or form. Do you follow? http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful :-) It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in > this Newsgroup... > > Are there anymore Chinese Docs around? There was an Electrocardiographic Doc whose name fails me. He was wonderful with no weakness in religiosity. He left just as most have. Bill  SignatureGarden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA ICAO = KMIV Millville Weather Lat 39.5982 Long -75.0358 Acts of creation are ordinarily reserved for gods and poets. To plant a pine, one need only own a shovel. -- Aldo Leopold >> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in >> this Newsgroup... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There was an Electrocardiographic Doc whose name fails me. He was > wonderful with no weakness in religiosity. He left just as most have. In other words Andrew B Chung is basically terrorising this newgroup, pushing his propaganda and agenda, with each post he makes. And you know what they call people who do similar, but in the real world... Bloody disgrace to America he is. >>> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in >>> this Newsgroup... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bloody disgrace to America he is. The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. You are appreciated, dear liaM... http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo ... as it remains my personal choice to not be religious. Christianity is not a religion but rather a relationship with the risen LORD Jesus Christ. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword Our armchair spieler opines" > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/MessianicBrethren http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo Our armchair spieler opines" > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet Our armchair spieler opines" > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. Our armchair spieler opines" > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan Our armchair spieler opines" > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan Note the subjectline which is in response to the original post below, cognitive lateral lurch: > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. "You are appreciated, dear liaM..." The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. As a lone ranger bible reader he invents his religion as he goes along and in science he allows evidence to be driven by an agenda driven ideology. It is not that he expresses religious ideas, it is because he does not deal in the truth. God bless. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet of http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan > The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in > medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. _This_ person of faith objects not only to his pollution of diabetic newsgroups but also to how easily he gets folks like you AND the person you responded to to help him do it. SignatureWes Groleau http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christians <>< http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungry > Our armchair spieler opines" > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in > medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. liaM is a sock ;) > Our armchair spieler opines" > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The real problem is that we people of faith and with an interest in > medical reality object to his pollution of religion and science. liaM is a sock ;) > >> In article <fpkqrj$53...@aioe.org>, "Zach" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The real terorists are bigots who are blinded to the medical > value of Dr. Chung's comments because of their hate of his religious spiel. You may be missing a major point here. You are correct in pointing out that Dr. Chungs medical advise is based on his unique religious ideas that are a mixture of Christianity, Daoism and his delusions about communication with the Holy Spirit and Satan via Usenet. But there are major objections to his medical approach. The fact remains that he has no peer reviewed studies that support his 2Pd OMER approach. It's a fantasy. And he has no theological support for his unique religious views, however he is entitled to them, but if they render him a danger to his patents, then his medical license should be revoked. It's as if a physician were to refuse to provide the proper standard of care based on a religious objection to blood transfusions. He was fired from the only clinical job he has ever had after less than 90 days because he administered substandard care. He appealed that dismissal and it was upheld. He failed to report his dismissal to the Florida DPR. Chung spends much of his time posting on usenet and other forums such as Sermo. He was banned from Sermo for his unprofessional conduct. He has been caught in many fabrications on usenet. He has suggested ingestion of acetone will replicate the effects of a low carbohydrate diet. He has no clinical practice. He has no admitting privileges at any hospital. He claims to have published a book called "Be Hungry". No book seller or publisher has ever heard of it. He claims that his "publicist" has tried to get him on the Dr. Phil Show to promote the book but he was rebuffed because Phil McGraw is an overeater. Chung has ignored many requests to provide the name of the publisher and ISBN of his book or provide the name and contact information of the publicist. He claims that everyone, regardless of age, sex, health condition or weight should eat any food they desire so long as they eat 2 pounds daily. He uses a misinterpretation of scriptures to support that notion and calls it the 2pd OMER approach. He respond to his critics by placing them on his convicts list, calls them Satan or Sock puppets without answering any of their criticisms. Some of those critics are sincere Christians who object to his scripture twisting. Does that sound like a sane Christian physician who is suffering persecution or like a kook and a fraud who uses the persecution card to try to silence reasonable criticism of his unreasonable ideas? Every thing in this post is verifiable by searching usenet archives. Chung will likely respond with his usual invective but offer nothing more than obsfucation or personal attacks. >>>> In article <fpkqrj$53...@aioe.org>, "Zach" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: >>>>> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > Chung will likely respond with his usual invective but offer nothing > more than obsfucation or personal attacks. I find the good doctor measured in his advice and quite generous in sharing his expertise with people that have questions. Are you sure what you are saying is not the result of considerations other than medical ? Sincerely liaM > >>>> In article <fpkqrj$53...@aioe.org>, "Zach" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: > >>>>> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Sincerely > liaM They walk among us. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet > >>>> In article <fpkqrj$53...@aioe.org>, "Zach" <m...@privacy.net> wrote: > >>>>> Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Sincerely > liaM Yes. Andrew Chung may be "generous" in sharing his advice but it is bad advice from a disgraced doctor. On Feb 22, 4:18 pm, Mike Mordant > Yes. Andrew Chung may be "generous" in sharing his advice but it is > bad advice from a disgraced doctor. And much of his advice is not based on the standard of medical science, but on "discerning" and his interpretation of the scriptures and made up quotes from the Holy Spirit. Just need to look at his responses when he is questioned and ask to justify what he says - that says it all. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Idioticsatan On Feb 22, 6:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Idioticsatan How about clearing things up. What is the ISBN of your book? Who is the publisher? How can one contact your publicist? What is their name, address phone number and email? You continued failure to clear this up is indicative of dishonesty on your part. On Feb 22, 6:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > How can one contact your publicist? What is their name, address phone > number and email? Do you think a complaint is in order? > On Feb 22, 6:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > > > How can one contact your publicist? What is their name, address phone > > number and email? > > Do you think a complaint is in order? Actually I think he needs a better "publicist". No book seller has ever heard of Dr. Chung's book. On Feb 29, 10:04 am, Mike Mordant > Actually I think he needs a better "publicist". No book seller has > ever heard of Dr. Chung's book. It is a "self-published" booklet - there are companies that will print for a cost anything you want so anyone can be a "published author." > On Feb 29, 10:04 am, Mike Mordant > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It is a "self-published" booklet - there are companies that will print > for a cost anything you want so anyone can be a "published author." Here is an excerpt from his iuniverse.com book their site offers a free look at the book Source: excerpt from "Be Hungry" at http://www.iuniverse.com/lookinside/LookInside.jsp?isbn=0595456413&page=15 The events of the day described by Dr. Chung began at noon. This is an hour plus later -- from the book by Dr. Chung BEGIN EXCERPT "Are you hurting anywhere" asked the paramedic. "Yes, all over," Andrew replied. "What happened" he asked. "I was beaten (to death) by the police officers, Andrew answered out loud (and in thought). The paramedic proceeded to examine the wounded doctor and asked a few more questions. He then advised that his male patient be taken to Grady Hospital for treatment. Andrew informed the paramedic that as a physician, who worked at Grady Hospital, he did not with to he taken there in shackles and leg-irons. The paramedic said he understood and asked if Dr. Chung would sign a release refusing transport. The young doctor said he would and proceeded to sign this release. The paramedic then filed the following report: Date: 2/3/1997 Time of Request:13:I 3 Time of Dispatch:13:14 Time of Response: 13:15 Time at Scene: 13:22 Blood pressure 144/88 mrnHg Heart Rate 98 bpm Respiration: 20 bpm Narrative: "31 yr old male with chief complaint about right anterior axillary lower rib pain and bilateral rib pains. States injuries were secondary to physical altercation with GSU police. Patient denies loss of consciousness, headache. dizziness, difficulty in breathing. States that there is an increase in pain with inspiration. Slight with palpation. Refuses transport at this lime. Understands risks with possible rib injuries. Understands refusal. Patient is in custody of GSU police. Male patient appears to be ambulatory, alert and oriented times three with multiple contusions and bleeding lacerations on his body. There is no dyspnea. Radial pulses were three plus. Capillary refill occurred in less than two seconds. Skin was warm and dry. Motor strength was five of five in all four extremities. He has some abrasions to bilateral wrists. He has no crepitus around his lacerations. Abdomen was soft and non-tender. Refused transport only. Turned over to GSU police department custody END EXERPT Source: excerpt from "Be Hungry" at http://www.iuniverse.com/lookinside/LookInside.jsp?isbn=0595456413&page=15 The ISBN is listed as 0595456413. JS > > On Feb 29, 10:04 am, Mike Mordant > > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > JS Heh. Did you catch the part where Andrew says he felt his neck break? That, you see, explains the "(to death)" bit. Does the third-person voice adopted by "The young doctor" grate on you as much as it does me? -- cary > In article <35de1033-0901-40da-a0b1-bb40e0c54...@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> J Clement <JustineSClem...@gmail.com> writes: > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The earlier chapter on the altercation with the police is even better. I read it twice before I realized he does discribe himself acting like a jerk. I do not know Georgia State University but if it is in downtown Atlanta I can't imagine a mid day road with no traffic. As was posted earlier, you just can't script or buy this kind of humor -- or can I call it a "Black Vat Comedy" JS > On Feb 29, 11:30=EF=BF=BDam, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote= > : [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > As was posted earlier, you just can't script or buy this kind of humor > -- or can I call it a "Black Vat Comedy" Vat Noir -- a brand new genre. -- cary > In article <956e080d-0c7b-43cb-be26-5e0ecfdf0...@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> J Clement <JustineSClem...@gmail.com> writes: > [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > > -- cary Well - I slightly impressed. There is an actual book, of sorts, and I was doubting his claim. The term vanity press certainly applies in this case. I'm having a hard time classifying it though. Is it science fiction or autobiography in the third-person? Philip K. Dick was a seriously disturbed individual and wrote better fiction than Dr. Chung. > > In article <35de1033-0901-40da-a0b1-bb40e0c54...@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> J Clement <JustineSClem...@gmail.com> writes: > [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > I read it twice before I realized he does discribe himself acting like > a jerk. I wondered at what point the word "pig" was uttered as a friendly interjection. Commenting on another's employment is sometimes a good way to break the ice in awkward social situations. > I do not know Georgia State University but if it is in downtown > Atlanta I can't imagine a mid day road with no traffic. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > JS > > > In article <35de1033-0901-40da-a0b1-bb40e0c54...@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> J Clement <JustineSClem...@gmail.com> writes: > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > > JS His story didn't make him look too good did it? Narcissists tend to give themselves away like that. Gee - can't seem to find it on either Amazon or Barnes&Noble web sites. iUniverse is a self-publishing company so anyone, even Chung, can be "published." > > On Feb 29, 10:04 am, Mike Mordant > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > JS > Gee - can't seem to find it on either Amazon or Barnes&Noble web > sites. [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Just send a check and a manuscript. From the posted excerpt iuniverse provides editiorial support for grammar or storyline. Wonder if "(now in its second printing!)" (from Dr. Chung's sig) means a second case has been bought by the good doctor? Obviously my editor is on sabbatical <g> > Just send a check and a manuscript. > From the posted excerpt iuniverse provides ** NO ** editiorial support for > grammar or storyline. makes much more sense with allthe words included JS > > Gee - can't seem to find it on either Amazon or Barnes&Noble web > > sites. [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Wonder if "(now in its second printing!)" (from Dr. Chung's sig) > means a second case has been bought by the good doctor? Second trip to kinko's more like it On Feb 29, 1:47 pm, Mike Mordant > Second trip to kinko's more like it Hmmm ... maybe Ejac's next HANDiwork after "Be Hungry" will be published at the Kinky section of Kinko's under the title "Be Handy" > On Feb 29, 1:47 pm, Mike Mordant > > > Second trip to kinko's more like it > > Hmmm ... maybe Ejac's next HANDiwork after "Be Hungry" will be > published at the Kinky section of Kinko's under the title "Be Handy" One book is more than enough. Please don't give any more ideas ;) On Mar 1, 11:21 pm, "Heartdoc" > One book is more than enough. Please don't give any more ideas ;) You could be right - after all when you look at what Ejac posts, most of it is nothing new but the "same old same old" with slight variations. To write something new he might just have to use both hands which could be a HARDship for him. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets > On Mar 1, 11:21 pm, "Heartdoc" > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > variations. To write something new he might just have to use both > hands which could be a HARDship for him. I think you've hit the nail.right on the head :) > On Feb 29, 10:04 am, Mike Mordant > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It is a "self-published" booklet - there are companies that will print > for a cost anything you want so anyone can be a "published author." Hardly a real book then. Has anyone actually laid eyes on the booklet? If it doesn't have an ISBN it will never get any real distribution. > On Feb 22, 6:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > How can one contact your publicist? What is their name, address phone > number and email? The number he lists for his "publicist" just coincidentally happens to be identical to his voice mail number at his "office". Go figure. . . . > I find the good doctor measured in his advice and quite generous in > sharing his expertise with people that have questions. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Ignore his religious views look only at the medical advce he posts 4 examples 1 the hungier you are the healthier you are 2 all people at all times should eat a diet of exactly 2 lbs per day no more no less 3 Type 2 diabetics, obese people and others are so because they do not eat 2 pds a day. 4 If you do not always feel hunger you are unwell. These are dangerous bits of medical advice. These are separate from his distorting the Bible Ignoring his Biblical interpretations leaves a record of dietary advice which could cause many people including those with endocrine, cancer and digestive issues great harm. JS satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > > I find the good doctor measured in his advice and quite generous in > > sharing his expertise with people that have questions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ignore his religious views look only at the medical advce he posts Actually, it remains my choice to not be religious. Christianity is not a religion but rather a relationship with the risen LORD Jesus Christ. > 4 examples > > 1 the hungier you are the healthier you are This is a statement of fact rather than medical advice. > 2 all people at all times should eat a diet of exactly 2 lbs per > day no more no less This amount is the optimal amount of food for all adults by GOD's design. It is written that there is one amount (omer) of food that is right for everyone (Exodus 16:16). > 3 Type 2 diabetics, obese people and others are so because they do > not eat 2 pds a day. Obesity and obesity-related problems have arisen from overeating. Eating more that the optimal amount per day is by definition overeating. > 4 If you do not always feel hunger you are unwell. When a person is not hungry, something is indeed wrong. > These are dangerous bits of medical advice. These above statements are facts rather than medical advice. > These are separate from his distorting the Bible Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > Ignoring his Biblical interpretations leaves a record of dietary > advice which could cause many people including those with endocrine, > cancer and digestive issues great harm. Folks with endocrine, cancer, and digestive issues have already suffered great harm as evident by their being less hungry. Truth is simple. Bottom line: You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in Scripture: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword On Feb 29, 1:13 pm, Ejac > > 2 all people at all times should eat a diet of exactly 2 lbs per > > day no more no less [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It is written that there is one amount (omer) of food that is right > for everyone (Exodus 16:16). Hmmm ... do not see in Exodus where children are excluded from " for everyone" having one Omer a day. That is probably another pesky little "BLACK FACT" like an omer being a volume and not a weight. Like BLACK VAT is bad, a BLACK FACT is bad After all it is the Holy Spirit of the issue and not the Holy Fact of the issue that is important. Again if hunger is good and smoking marijuana makes you hungry, then marijuana is good and makes you blessed. > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > This amount is the optimal amount of food for all adults by GOD's > design. No. Just the optimal amount if you're on an all-manna regimen. Get your Manna Mart franchise going, and we'll get back to you. -- cary On Feb 29, 5:20 pm, Cary Kittrell > Get your Manna Mart franchise going, and we'll get back to you. It is true that in Exodus God instructed Moses about an omer, a measure of volume, per day for everyone, but using Chung's BLACK FACTS it comes down to 2 pounds, not a volume, of any food, not manna. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > No. Yes: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell > Just the optimal amount if you're on an all-manna regimen. After GOD blesses the food, it is essentially manna for Jesus' brethren. Truth is simple. May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > This amount is the optimal amount of food for all adults by GOD's > > > design. > > No. > > Yes: > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell > > Just the optimal amount if you're on an all-manna regimen. > > After GOD blesses the food, it is essentially manna for Jesus' > brethren. The digestive and endocrine systems do not respond to "essentially". > Truth is simple. I doubt that you can even remember back that far. -- cary -- cary > May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to > pray for your perishing soul: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > The digestive and endocrine systems do not respond to "essentially". "With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26) Amen. May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > "With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible." > -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26) To take one example, it is not impossible that you are entirely deluded. -- cary > Amen. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > To take one example, it is not impossible that you are entirely deluded. Those who know the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, are simply not deluded. The same can not be written about those like you: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell May we, who are walking with the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Those who know the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, are simply not > deluded. And so now you're telling me that it is beyond your GOD's abilities to render you delusional, while allowing you still to insist that you are not? -- cary > The same can not be written about those like you: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > to render you delusional, while allowing you still to insist that > you are not? You may read Jeremiah 9:23-24 as many times as required for understanding: "Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom or the strong man boast of his strength or the rich man boast of his riches, but let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows ME, that I am the LORD, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight" -- LORD Almighty GOD. Amen. Most assuredly, without doubt, I know and understand GOD to be kind, just, and right. May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > justice and righteousness on earth, > for in these I delight" -- LORD Almighty GOD. Oh, once through was sufficient to inform me that you're dodging my question. Not that anyone could blame you. -- cary > Amen. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > justice and righteousness on earth, > > for in these I delight" -- LORD Almighty GOD. Amen. > Oh, once through was sufficient to inform me that > you're dodging my question. Clearly, you remain delusional: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell May we, who are the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Oh, once through was sufficient to inform me that > > you're dodging my question. > Clearly, you remain delusional: Clearly you continue to dodge my question. -- cary > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Clearly you continue to dodge my question. Not for the discerning. May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your perishing soul: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > In article > <cc037a5c-4fce-48c6-afbd-fe4d097b8d6d@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > Clearly you continue to dodge my question. What? The good doctor being evasive? Again? That's a new one. ;) On Mar 1, 5:42 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword ;) On Mar 1, 5:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword :) > On Mar 1, 5:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD >> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com >> Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of >> lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword > > :) You're going to set him off on fume mode if you keep smiling :) >> On Mar 1, 5:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You're going to set him off on fume mode if you keep smiling :) That's okay, Cary and Mike have already pushed him into a feedback loop. http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets On Feb 29, 2:13 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] > Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword Let us all read Exodus 16:16 in contrext -- always a helpful way to understand scripture. Exodus 16:13-18 13 So it came about at evening that the quails came up and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp. 14 When the layer of dew evaporated, behold, on the surface of the wilderness here was a fine flake-like thing, fine as the frost on the ground. 15 When the sons of Israel saw it, they said to one another, "What is it?" For they did not know what it was. And Moses said to them, "It is the bread which the LORD has given you to eat. 16 "This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of persons each of you has in his tent.'" 17 The sons of Israel did so, and some gathered much and some little. 18 When they measured it with an omer, he who had gathered much had no excess, and he who had gathered little had no lack; every man gathered as much as he should eat. This same idea of providing for individual needs is repeated in 2 Corinthians 2 Corinthians 8:15 " as it is written, "HE WHO gathered MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO MUCH, AND HE WHO gathered LITTLE HAD NO LACK." They had an omer of manna per person in their tent and quail. Much like WWII where a family of x people qualified for y pounds of flour or meat during rationing. Not one amount for every person but gathered and eaten as fitting each man. A family of 4 would have quail and 8 quarts of manna. A far cry from one size fits all. Much like picking up a Family bucket of chicken and sides at KFC. How the foods are distributed is not determined by the provider but by the consumer family. Perhaps you should invest in a good concordance or dictionary to assist you in understanding the scriptures. JS > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There was an Electrocardiographic Doc whose name fails me. He was > wonderful with no weakness in religiosity. He left just as most have. Without GOD, none can stand against satan: http://HeartMDPhD.com/MessianicBrethren Laus Deo ! ! ! http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword On Feb 21, 4:01 pm, Ejac > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/MonkeyBiscuitDiet The Monkey Biscuit Diet: http://www.ericsons.net/380/monkey-biscuits http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet On Feb 21, 4:43 pm, Ejac <htp:HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet> http://www.ericsons.net/380/monkey-biscuits http://HeartMDPhD.com/Crazysatan > On Feb 21, 4:01 pm, Ejac > > >http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/MonkeyBiscuitDiet > > The Monkey Biscuit Diet:http://www.ericsons.net/380/monkey-biscuits "A regular monkey is a happy monkey." -- Gabe "Mr. Kotter" Kaplan. On Feb 21, 5:53 pm, Father Haskell > "A regular monkey is a happy monkey." -- Gabe "Mr. Kotter" Kaplan. "Keep your sense of humor. As General Joe Stillwell said, "The higher a monkey climbs, the more you see of his behind."" and it seems this applies perfectly the Andrew "Banana" Chung. Below, is evidence of the self-promotion. >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword |> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: |> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | | Without GOD, none can stand against satan: Good thing there's no Satan then. Since there's no god apparently, there's no need to worry about this Satan character either. Now Chunks, why don't you grow the f.ck up and stop living in LaLa Land. - -- There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. ____________________________________________________________________ Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ ~ http://azhotops.blogspot.com/ A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/ Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director ____________________________________________________________________ http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Stupidsatan | http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Stupidsatan OH look. A link to nothing. Just like everything else you posts Chunks, empty. - -- There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. ____________________________________________________________________ Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ ~ http://azhotops.blogspot.com/ A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/ Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director ____________________________________________________________________ On 21 fév, 23:01, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: Be sane... be intelligent... get help > Out of interest, why are there no other "Cardiologists" participating in > this Newsgroup... > > Are there anymore Chinese Docs around? Heartdoc at your service :) |
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