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" Rod Eastman's " cowardly threats
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Ken W - 13 Feb 2008 00:15 GMT I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be trying to set somebody else up for problems.
From a previous thread..
On Feb 11, 7:49 pm, Rod <icom...@att.net> wrote:
J666 wrote:
> >>>>>>> Rod is another slang term for a "prick" which seems very appropriate > >>>>>>> here Rod wrote:
> >>>>>> Except this prick will lay you low in person, wussy... J666 wrote:
> >>>>> Why don't you take your rod and put it where you usually put it where > >>>>> the moon don't shine. Rod wrote:
> >>>> I knew you were to yellow to post an address, wussy.....what's it > >>>> like to be the biggest wuss on the block, having all the tougher > >>>> men make a fagot of you ?? > >>>> Crawl back under your rock, like a good little girl..... Ken W:
> >>> Occaisionally, a creep like this shows up on Usenet. He threatens > >>> people and wants to know where others live but is too cowardly to show > >>> his own identity and address. If he wanted a fight he wouldn't be > >>> online saying this sort of thing. He would be in a bar on the wrong > >>> side of the tracks. Rod:
> >> Rod Eastman > >> 2740 Regency Drive, > >> Emporia Kansas... >>> > >> Now Ken, you little fag...do more than talk about it... Ken W
> > Like the coward he is he likes calling names that probably apply well > > to himself. > > > > The address this creep gave is a vacant lot. LOL how chicken.
> Yea, a nice, wide open area, and the police have a clear view > of it from my place, perfect for the kind of atheist that thinks > christians should be killed. > Hope you show up, we had a party planned just for him. You're an hysterical coward and a liar.
Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a lot of intervening streets.
I wonder how the police will like you involving them in your cowardly threats.
Atheist? Christians should be killed? I go to church myself.
You are an embarrasment to any Christian, except Chung.
In another post to Chung, you state that somebody sent an email to you threatening your life.
Then you conjured up a story about how you were trying to lure this person so he would show himself, presumably at this empty lot, (a mile from your house and 2 miles from the police station).
Were you going to sit in Hardees with a binoculars watching 24/7 for days on end?
I think you're lying about getting threatening emails.
But anybody can do a Google groups search on you and see the numbers of abusive posts you send to people, accussing them of all sorts of things, so it's possible someone might have sent you an angry email.
IN REPLY TO THIS POST, POST THAT LIFE THREATENING EMAIL INCLUDING ALL HEADERS AND PATHS.
Anything sent over the internet is tracable and there should be internet savvy people who can look at this thing and see if its real, and who or where it's from.
Let's see that email, "Rod".
If you can't do that, then slink off and quit pestering decent people.
> > Anybody can prove that to himself by two methods. Ken W - 13 Feb 2008 00:22 GMT I missed making a clarification:
> >>> Occaisionally, a creep like this shows up on Usenet. He threatens > >>> people and wants to know where others live but is too cowardly to show > >>> his own identity and address. If he wanted a fight he wouldn't be > >>> online saying this sort of thing. He would be in a bar on the wrong > >>> side of the tracks. Rod wrote:
> >> Rod Eastman > >> 2740 Regency Drive, > >> Emporia Kansas...
> >> Now Ken, you little fag...do more than talk about it...
> > Like the coward he is he likes calling names that probably apply well > > to himself.
> > The address this creep gave is a vacant lot. LOL how chicken. Rod wrote:
> Yea, a nice, wide open area, and the police have a clear view > of it from my place, perfect for the kind of atheist that thinks > christians should be killed. > Hope you show up, we had a party planned just for him. You're an hysterical coward and a liar.
Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a lot of intervening streets.
I wonder how the police will like you involving them in your cowardly threats.
Atheist? Christians should be killed? I go to church myself.
You are an embarrasment to any Christian, except Chung.
In another post to Chung, you state that somebody sent an email to you threatening your life.
Then you conjured up a story about how you were trying to lure this person so he would show himself, presumably at this empty lot, (a mile from your house and 2 miles from the police station).
Were you going to sit in Hardees with a binoculars watching 24/7 for days on end?
I think you're lying about getting threatening emails.
But anybody can do a Google groups search on you and see the numbers of abusive posts you send to people, accussing them of all sorts of things, so it's possible someone might have sent you an angry email.
IN REPLY TO THIS POST, POST THAT LIFE THREATENING EMAIL INCLUDING ALL HEADERS AND PATHS.
Anything sent over the internet is tracable and there should be internet savvy people who can look at this thing and see if its real, and who or where it's from.
Let's see that email, "Rod".
If you can't do that, then slink off and quit pestering decent people.
::: good news runner ::: - 13 Feb 2008 00:23 GMT In news:06da65fd-5739-4394-ac82-59137ae56c1b@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com, Ken W <ken_wood56@yahoo.com> typed:
Would you please stop posting personal data?
I am also sure it is illegal to do so. So best you all delete these posts again, okay?
Thanks.
::: good news runner ::: - 13 Feb 2008 00:31 GMT In news:06da65fd-5739-4394-ac82-59137ae56c1b@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com, Ken W <ken_wood56@yahoo.com> typed:
Would you please stop posting personal data?
I am also sure it is illegal to do so. So best you all delete these posts again, okay?
Thanks.
J A - 13 Feb 2008 00:49 GMT On Feb 12, 5:31 pm, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Innews:06da65fd-5739-4394-ac82-59137ae56c1b@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com, > Ken W <ken_woo...@yahoo.com> typed: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks. "Rod" posted the data, as is made clear.
And who are you to be telling people what to post?
Ken W - 13 Feb 2008 02:41 GMT Well?????
I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be trying to set somebody else up for problems.
From a previous thread..
On Feb 11, 7:49 pm, Rod <icom...@att.net> wrote:
J666 wrote:
> >>>>>>> Rod is another slang term for a "prick" which seems very appropriate > >>>>>>> here Rod wrote:
> >>>>>> Except this prick will lay you low in person, wussy... J666 wrote:
> >>>>> Why don't you take your rod and put it where you usually put it where > >>>>> the moon don't shine. Rod wrote:
> >>>> I knew you were to yellow to post an address, wussy.....what's it > >>>> like to be the biggest wuss on the block, having all the tougher > >>>> men make a fagot of you ?? > >>>> Crawl back under your rock, like a good little girl..... Ken W:
> >>> Occaisionally, a creep like this shows up on Usenet. He threatens > >>> people and wants to know where others live but is too cowardly to show > >>> his own identity and address. If he wanted a fight he wouldn't be > >>> online saying this sort of thing. He would be in a bar on the wrong > >>> side of the tracks. Rod:
> >> Rod Eastman > >> 2740 Regency Drive, > >> Emporia Kansas...
> >> Now Ken, you little fag...do more than talk about it... Ken W
> > Like the coward he is he likes calling names that probably apply well > > to himself.
> > The address this creep gave is a vacant lot. LOL how chicken. Rod wrote:
> Yea, a nice, wide open area, and the police have a clear view > of it from my place, perfect for the kind of atheist that thinks > christians should be killed. > Hope you show up, we had a party planned just for him. You're an hysterical coward and a liar.
Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a lot of intervening streets.
I wonder how the police will like you involving them in your cowardly threats.
Atheist? Christians should be killed? I go to church myself.
You are an embarrasment to any Christian, except Chung.
In another post to Chung, you state that somebody sent an email to you threatening your life.
Then you conjured up a story about how you were trying to lure this person so he would show himself, presumably at this empty lot, (a mile from your house and 2 miles from the police station).
Were you going to sit in Hardees with a binoculars watching 24/7 for days on end?
I think you're lying about getting threatening emails.
But anybody can do a Google groups search on you and see the numbers of abusive posts you send to people, accussing them of all sorts of things, so it's possible someone might have sent you an angry email.
IN REPLY TO THIS POST, POST THAT LIFE THREATENING EMAIL INCLUDING ALL HEADERS AND PATHS.
Anything sent over the internet is tracable and there should be internet savvy people who can look at this thing and see if its real, and who or where it's from.
Let's see that email, "Rod".
If you can't do that, then slink off and quit pestering decent people.
::: good news runner ::: - 13 Feb 2008 02:49 GMT > On Feb 12, 5:31 pm, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > And who are you to be telling people what to post? I have not told anyone anything - I have asked kindly, and informed about the possible consequences. If you want to risk being prosecuted for a newgroup post... your problem, not mine. I did not make the laws.
belmewser@gmail.com - 13 Feb 2008 08:23 GMT On Feb 13, 2:49 am, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Innews:1c21e1fe-398b-4040-ad91-79d4e6473206@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com, > J A <jantero...@hotmail.com> typed: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > about the possible consequences. If you want to risk being prosecuted > for a newgroup post... your problem, not mine. I did not make the laws. I think you have missed the point. The problem is not Ken's as he did not put the information into usenet in the first place. He is simply repeating it. What is more he has responsibly added a caution that the person posting as "Rod" may not be Mr. Eastman at all but a nasty troublemaker attempting to cause problems for Mr. Eastman.
Whoever is posting as "Rod" is a nasty person who subtly misuses language to mislead. For example he in one thread he claimed to have obtained sufficient information from aioe.org to resolve an argument he was having. Check with aioe.org and you will find they never release info unless under an _Italian_ court order. Secondly, he said to another poster "And I don't want to be the one that is sent to arrest you.", which would be a pretty good trick for a truck driver in his late fifties.
The person posting as "Rod" has sometimes signed himself with "kc0oeb" which apparently is some kind of ham radio operators license or something like, which when you google the license site gives some identification. Again it could be just some sick nut trying to cause problems for Mr. Eastman.
Why this person supports the satan driven lies of Dr. Chung is anyone's guess. Dr. Chung has misread the Bible and mistaken the use of the omer. He has also supported a scam by Mr. Ron Wyatt regarding the crossing of the Red Sea. "Rod's" and Dr. Chungs efforts detract from genuine believer's attempts to help others recognize God's Glory.
God Bless You,
Anne
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 13 Feb 2008 08:37 GMT satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > > >> convicted neighbor Ken W <ken_woo...@yahoo.com> typed: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I think you have missed the point. What you, who are eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, thinks is inconsequential.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD- given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 04:02 GMT > On Feb 13, 2:49 am, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > the person posting as "Rod" may not be Mr. Eastman at all but a nasty > troublemaker attempting to cause problems for Mr. Eastman. Oh brother ! What a scenario to detract from the facts of what has really happened. Save your phony respect for your church pastor
> Whoever is posting as "Rod" is a nasty person who subtly misuses > language to mislead. Ever hear of a brain surgeon operating with a chain saw ? I'm not so subtly using the english language to speak with you know, but oh my heavens, because I've used the language to communicate at all I must have an ulterior motive !
WOW !! Kelly Anne Siebecke, IS this YOU ???????
> For example he in one thread he claimed to have > obtained sufficient information from aioe.org to resolve an argument > he was having. Check with aioe.org and you will find they never > release info unless under an _Italian_ court order. And that is one reason why it's always a wise idea to cultivate friendships with many types of people. You do KNOW what friends are don't you Anne ? Andrew is a brother in the Lord and a friend, unless you believe me to be lying about that in which case you should address Andrew. You see Anne, I am anti-gay and anti-atheist, particularly when they send me emails telling me I can't mention the name of God in a particualar group or I will be killed along with a few other christians causing them problems. I have a family to protect Anne, so I turned the email over to the police. The rest of this mess has been myself and a police detective attempting to provoke this guy into exposing himself and reward a possibly dangerous person with a cage, unless of course you are of the same mind as Ken and don't want him to be caught ??
> Secondly, he said > to another poster "And I don't want to be the one that is sent to > arrest you.", which would be a pretty good trick for a truck driver in > his late fifties. Yes it would be. I achieved the desired result nonetheless. You're kind of like the poor losers that cast away fortunes playing poker, knowing the risk but doing it anyway, and then crying like a whiny baby that didn't get it's way when someone pulls a bluff and takes the table and your cash.
If you don't like the game, don't play the game ! That is easy enough for even a dummy like you to understand.
> The person posting as "Rod" has sometimes signed himself with "kc0oeb" > which apparently is some kind of ham radio operators license or > something like, which when you google the license site gives some > identification. Again it could be just some sick nut trying to cause > problems for Mr. Eastman. Kelly Anne Siebecke, is that you ??
> Why this person supports the satan driven lies of Dr. Chung is > anyone's guess. And what is satan driven that makes them lies ? Care to explain at length and prove your accusations ?
> Dr. Chung has misread the Bible and mistaken the use > of the omer. Perhaps it's you that has misread it, ever think of that ? I would at least consider it before calling someone a liar, being a christian, which you ev
> He has also supported a scam by Mr. Ron Wyatt regarding > the crossing of the Red Sea. "Rod's" and Dr. Chungs efforts detract > from genuine believer's attempts to help others recognize God's Glory. As I said, you have zero idea what has been happening, but you feel the liberty to spout your babble anyway. What does your pastor say about meddling in other peoples affairs and spreading gossip, eh Anne ?
Oh yes, I understand that you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Care to explain that one before I kill file you ?
belmewser@gmail.com - 14 Feb 2008 09:15 GMT belmew...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2:49 am, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> > wrote: >> Innews:1c21e1fe-398b-4040-ad91-79d4e6473206@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com, >> J A <jantero...@hotmail.com> typed: snip
> Whoever is posting as "Rod" is a nasty person who subtly misuses > language to mislead. Subtly misusing language to mislead is not called bluffing. It is called lying. Such actions are those of one who has slipped from The Path of God.
May God Bless You and return you to His True Path,
Anne.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Feb 2008 09:55 GMT satan via a sockpuppert (corporeal demon) hissed to himself:
> > Whoever is posting as "Rod" is a nasty person who subtly misuses > > language to mislead. > > Subtly misusing language to mislead is not called bluffing. It is > called lying. Incorrect.
Your bearing false witness however is lying.
This simply shows that you are the liar who is the source of all lies as described in Scripture.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
belmewser@gmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 07:54 GMT On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppert (corporeal demon) hissed to himself: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Incorrect. Here's the correction: Subtly misusing language to mislead is bluffing. It is also called lying, bluffing is a form of lying.
Anne.
J666 - 15 Feb 2008 13:25 GMT On Feb 15, 1:54 am, belmew...
> Here's the correction: Subtly misusing language to mislead is > bluffing. It is also called lying, bluffing is a form of lying. > > Anne. Call it what you want, it is not being honest.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 01:07 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazySockPuppet
Rod - 15 Feb 2008 14:34 GMT > On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Anne. Actually it isn't. It began life as a military tactic, where you direct your opponents attention to what you want him to see, and away from what you don't want him to see.
This tactic gradually escalated into what is known as the bluff. Instead of making a lie, you manipulate the senses of your opponent with his surroundings, giving him impressions of things that in reality are not so.
As the impressions he gets are in his imagination only, any lies derived from the external stimuli are the sole responsibility of his mind. Joshua used this tactic many times in battle, successfully I may add.
Your complaint on this is really based on the fact that you don't like being outsmarted and plan to make as big a fuss as possible, but what you don't realize is the fact that this very same tactic is about to be used to turn your words against you.
So to sum it up, I take responsibility for what I enter into a persons surroundings, but what they make of it in their minds is not my responsibility.
Take your whining elsewhere "Anne", poor loser !
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 01:20 GMT > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Take your whining elsewhere "Anne", poor loser ! Indeed, satan is the biggest loser and whiner:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Sissysatan
Rod - 16 Feb 2008 04:08 GMT >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Sissysatan Amen Andrew, Glory to God for His wisdom, and that which He imparts to our needs !
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 06:27 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Amen Andrew, Glory to God for His wisdom, and that which He imparts > to our needs ! Laus Deo ! ! !
http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 14:54 GMT > belmew...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Feb 13, 2:49 am, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Anne. This has to be Kelly Anne Siebecke, an infamous lesbian who has more aliases than Charlie Manson has lies. Allow me to make my case, as it will explain these recent accusations from "Anne". I've come out full blast against homosexuals and lesbians, and that IS what Kelly claims to be. Now in all fairness to those that have turned to God and repented of those sins, they are Gods people and I am happy to have them as brothers and sisters. To those that are practicing homosexual relationships I have but one thing to say, stop it now on your own or God WILL stop you, and you won't be liking the way He does things. Look back thru biblical history and see what happens to fags if you doubt it. Now, it's no sweat off my brow if you're unhappy with what has happened, the fact is that if the followers of God are to survive we have to drive you out from among us, if not then God will consider it as tolerating you and strike us as well. I'm not happy with that idea, so you're on your way out, and if making life uneasy for you is going to get this done then I'll join with Fred Phelps to that end.
So now you people know the real motivation behind "Annes" statements.
Now, one more thing before I go on. The last time I heard from Kelly Anne Siebecke she had SWORN to me that she would NEVER again reply to one of my posts. You will take notice that I have received NO reply to my questioning of "ANNE", this isn't unusual as many people do this kind of thing, so it's pretty common. However, the odds narrow down quite a lot when 3 things about the personality of the person speaking in the post match those of another person, ergo the mannerisms and method of speaking, the middle name, and certain quoted subject matter that had a tendency to stick in the craw of Kelly Anne Siebecke also seems to be stuck in the craw of "Anne". What are the odds of that happening out of thin air ?
Now "Anne", I'll ask you once more;
"What is satan driven that makes the things Andrew has said lies ? I would like to hear your explanation at length please. You can provide proof of what you've said, can't you ? After all, honest followers of God are far to fearfull of Him and His laws to make accusations that can't meet the challenge of proof. You ARE a follower of God, aren't you "Anne", or just another fair weather Christian ??
Rod
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 14 Feb 2008 15:03 GMT On Feb 14, 8:54 am, Rod You ARE a follower of God,
> aren't you "Anne", or just another fair weather Christian ?? > > Rod Even within Christianity there are differences as to what God wants, so how do you do you determine which is correct?
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 16:43 GMT > On Feb 14, 8:54 am, Rod You ARE a follower of God, >> aren't you "Anne", or just another fair weather Christian ?? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Even within Christianity there are differences as to what God wants, > so how do you do you determine which is correct? By the leading of the Holy Spirit and scripture. Scripture is the written transmission of Gods will to people. You;ll hear stories of the Holy Spirit doing parlor tricks and things of that nature, or barking like a dog in a pentecostal church, but don't believe it. That isn't the Holy Spirit working. Sometimes, you have to ask God for the Gift of the Holy One, and you have to keep after Him about it, but you won't recieve the Holy one until God is convinced that you are READY for Him.
Before you even think about going on your own to divide the Word of God, trust the leadership of those around you who are blessed with the Gift of the Holy One. You CAN trust HIS leadership, He will not lead you wrong. I was told that their has always been some question about spiritual matters like this one. Loads of parishoners across the world have been taught to doubt His very existence, but I'm here to tell you not to do that. You've read about the great falling away from the faith in Revelation ? Thats the first indication that it is taking place, when the followers of God begin to doubt and question the reality of God and His abilities.
I don't want you to go away with the impression that I have always been a devout believer, I haven't been. But in my darkest moments when my doubt was the strongest, I thought back to those times when I was witness and partook of some amazing and incredible experiences, and then my doubts melted away like ice on a sunny sunny spring morning.
The main thing is this, keep praying and keep in contact with God, let Him know what you want and why you want it. I'm not going to tell you that you're always going to get what you want, you won't, He's the Boss that knows what is best for you, NOT you. Don't let lack of an answer or a slow answer shake your faith in Him, when that happens you just impede your own spiritual progress, and your growth gets stunted just like mine. In Gods Kingdom I'm only 5'6" tall, when I could have been ten feet tall and bullet proof, but no..I had to be a scrawny runt.
Rod
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 14 Feb 2008 17:29 GMT On Feb 14, 10:43 am, Rod
> Before you even think about going on your own to divide the Word of > God, trust the leadership of those around you who are blessed with the > Gift of the Holy One. You CAN trust HIS leadership, He will not lead > you wrong.
> Rod So when someone or some group claims to speak for God as to what God wants, then what they say should be ignored? So what God says is really personal for each person?
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 20:33 GMT > On Feb 14, 10:43 am, Rod > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > wants, then what they say should be ignored? So what God says is > really personal for each person? This isn't what I said, and it's wrong. A person thats led by the Holy Spirit will speak the words that God wants conveyed.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 14 Feb 2008 22:09 GMT On Feb 14, 2:33 pm, Rod
> mortonmull...
> > So when someone or some group claims to speak for God as to what God > > wants, then what they say should be ignored? So what God says is > > really personal for each person? > > This isn't what I said, and it's wrong. A person thats led by the > Holy Spirit will speak the words that God wants conveyed. So when Dr. Chung says he is led by the Holy Spirit and even puts in quotes words he attributes to the Holy Spirit, then we know that is what God wants?
What happens when someone else says they were led to something different from the Holy Spirit, then how to know who is correct or can the Holy Spirit say conflicting things to different people?
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 23:21 GMT > On Feb 14, 2:33 pm, Rod > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > quotes words he attributes to the Holy Spirit, then we know that is > what God wants? You'll never trust an answer entirely until you experience the Holy Spirit for yourself. Once you have done that, you'll better recognize who He is and isn't with by their words and actions. People have will of their own, and they tend to act out of their won will at times, doing and saying things that the Holy Spirit is in opposition to, and that is when they are convicted of sinning, ergo their conscience begins to bother them.
> What happens when someone else says they were led to something > different from the Holy Spirit, Then you need to confirm that it is fact "from" the Holy Spirit thru study of Gods word, prayer and fasting. The later can be dangerous if your health isn't up to par.
> then how to know who is correct or can > the Holy Spirit say conflicting things to different people? It is dependent on that persons circumstances and what is going on in their life, what the future holds in store for them and what dangers or obstacles are ahead of them. If you're told by Him to drive down road a which is a dirt road, and your friend is told to drive down road B which is asphault, and both roads lead to the same destination, their is normally a good reason why. Of course, you'll have to be sure you're being led by the Holy Spirit first before you ever begin relying on the advice. Thats where prayer and fasting come in.
The hardest part you'll ever face is learning if it is Him and that you can trust Him. These are questions that other people cannot answer for you, as only God and you know you best. It's easy for something to be your will and not Gods, and confuse the two, thats when bad things start to happen to you. God tests people. He puts them thru trials that they would rather not face, one reason is to see if they will be faithful and trust in Him, another is to see if they will seek Him and His advice thru prayer as well as obey His laws. If you haven't done these things than it's a safe bet the voice you hear is your own. The best way to meet Gods laws is to trust that Christ died for our sin and was risen to life on the third day, and the next is the most crucial for by it you will meet the demands of God and Christ...Love God with all your heart and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself. Now this doesn't mean that if your neighbor steals your tv that you just automatically forgive him, he has to speak to you and confess it first, and it doesn't mean that you can beat him over the head with it. Gods advice to turn the other cheek is the best route to take, but the old testament also gives you the right to protect your family and yourself from attackers, killers and thieves. I say protect against them, not outright slaughter unless they've given you no way out. But those scriptures make it clear that should they break Gods laws in their dealings with you such as robbery of your home, you're pretty much free to kill them if that is what is required to save yourself and your family. You just need to keep in mind how God will react to what you've done and whether you have met His requirements in scripture or not. But it's the same process in every dealing with God on a daily basis.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 14 Feb 2008 23:54 GMT > mortonmull...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2:33 pm, Rod [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > whether you have met His requirements in scripture or not. But it's > the same process in every dealing with God on a daily basis. So it is personal and therefore what you, or Chung or the Pope or the leader of any other religion or any priest, minister or preacher or anyone else says, I should not accept unless I myself find it to be true. So could say, listen but personally verify.
When I asked: "What happens when someone else says they were led to something different from the Holy Spirit," You responded: "Then you need to confirm that it is fact "from" the Holy Spirit thru study of Gods word, prayer and fasting. The later can be dangerous if your health isn't up to par."
So, from your personal point of view, for someone in poor health and even close to death, who cannot fast, they can never know which seems rather harsh which does not mean that your view could be wrong. Also, because that ill person may have some different view, they themselves may not need to fast to know. Would you change the fasting if you were ill and unable to fast and therefore could not find out if some opposing view was the correct one or never be sure?
So it really does come down to the individual and therefore "one size does not fit all."
Pastor Dave - 15 Feb 2008 00:40 GMT >When I asked: "What happens when someone else >says they were led to something different from the >Holy Spirit," That claim is almost always bogus and is used either as:
1) A tactic to avoid dealing with the Biblical facts shown.
2) A tactic to build oneself up in the eyes of others.
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saint7peter@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 00:47 GMT > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:54:28 -0800 (PST), > mortonmull...@hotmail.com spake thusly: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Never give the devil a ride. He will always want to drive. If you are Jewish, never give G-D a ride. He will want to be a Jewdriver.
Rod - 15 Feb 2008 01:33 GMT >> mortonmull...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> On Feb 14, 2:33 pm, Rod [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > anyone else says, I should not accept unless I myself find it to be > true. So could say, listen but personally verify. The key is getting to know the scriptures and what they are saying. If what someone is telling is in tune with the scriptures then listen to them and learn. If it is prophecy you are hearing test it against the scriptures. Keep this in mind though; not all tested and verified scripture has been included in the bible. As an example only, the jews used to use the Book of Jubilees which was mainly dates and times and customs among a few other things. This book wouldn't be useful to you and I unless we are trying to locate the garden of eden or learn to become a member of jewish society.
> When I asked: "What happens when someone else says they were led to > something different from the Holy Spirit," [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So, from your personal point of view, for someone in poor health and > even close to death, who cannot fast, they can never know You do not need to fast to get what you seek, but it helps. Fasting is a method of purifying the soul and readying the mind and spirit for a closer experience with the supernatural realm. it's physically hard on persons with poor health. Just beacsue you may not be able to fast doesn't mean you cannot attain your goal. It's a tool, a method, not a bus taking you to downtown Chicago...God runs on one schedule only..His. He answers you when He decides to, not you. I say this because men will insist on their will over Gods, even when they are seeking His will.
Prayer, study and worship are the main inroads that will get you to a closer relationship with God, a method of communicating with him.
Worship is more than singing songs to God and quoting verses, the kind of thing that you see in churches. Worship is devotion and love of God, an admiration for His word and His works, a love for His truths and laws, and a willingness to lend yourself to His works, how you choose to live your life, and serve according to His needs.
It's life, living, a way of living that is never boring. It's eventful, sometimes dangerous, often fatal, and always a test of your faith and trust in Him. Everyday starts as a sunny day, and even if the times get rough, and they will, you smile because you feel like it, not because you have to, not because He forces you to do it, but because of joy and a love that won't leave you.
It isn't drugs or alcohol, and it isn't a complete brain wipe, it's life as you've never experienced it before, a high you never believe exists until you experience it for yourself, and it doesn't leave you, but you can leave it. Spiritual things are just that, spiritual and with no substance of this world, hard to understand and harder yet to control, because you can't handle that which you can't see or touch. It's beyond your senses ability to grasp just like x-rays are outside the scope of human visual ability. Many people will tell you it isn't there. This is what they told tesla, Edison and Bell; you're nuts, crazy, lunatic. It isn't there, it doesn't exist, it won;t work ! Now we have electricity and satellite tv, and wifi internet. Hindsight is 20/20 after all...
> which seems > rather harsh which does not mean that your view could be wrong. Again, you didn't listen to what I said. It isn't safe for someone in poor health to fast. Use the other methods like prayer, and study. When you are solid in your faith you can get a spiritual counselor like a pastor or priest to teach you a form of meditation that the essenes used in spiritual preparation of the soul, otherwise stay clear of it.
> Also, > because that ill person may have some different view, they themselves > may not need to fast to know. Would you change the fasting if you > were ill and unable to fast and therefore could not find out if some > opposing view was the correct one or never be sure? I would meditate, pray and study constantly. Let me share a little secret with you that the bible shares with most that read it...God doesn't like to be nagged. You pray and bug Him enough and He'll get you lined out just to have some quiet.
> So it really does come down to the individual and therefore "one size > does not fit all." Most often, yes, but not as you had put it in one paragraph. You have to learn about how the God works, what the bible says about how He works, and what He wants you to do with what He has given you. Use it wisely and you are given more, use it stupidly and He takes it away.
Just remember, once you hear Him speaking to you, you'll never have to ask who it is again.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 02:10 GMT On Feb 14, 7:33 pm, Rod
> > So it really does come down to the individual and therefore "one size > > does not fit all." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Just remember, once you hear Him speaking to you, you'll never have to > ask who it is again. Thank you for the detailed response.
Still people have different interpretations of the Bible and different claims of what they hear from God. So either there has to be only one true interpretation and one message from God or could it be personally different for each person?
Rod - 15 Feb 2008 02:58 GMT > On Feb 14, 7:33 pm, Rod >>> So it really does come down to the individual and therefore "one size [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Still people have different interpretations of the Bible and different > claims of what they hear from God. There is only one correct interpretation of scripture. It isn't a crime to be wrong about something, but it's best that others more learned of scripture than you agree that you are right.Thats why the penalty on those teaching the wrong things about scripture is so great a thing to bear. The consequences for those you are teaching, should you be wrong in what you have taught are sometimes disastrous if not fatal.
> So either there has to be only one > true interpretation and one message from God or could it be > personally different for each person? If God is dealing with one person, the message that person gets will be according to what God wills for that person, and it may not apply to others. On the other hand, sometimes God uses one person to send a message to an entire group of people. There are different examples of how he chooses to work in the old and new testaments, and in scriptures not included as canon. A word of caution about those that are excluded, not all of them are influenced and inspired by God. Many are fakes with subtle alterations taken from originals, and still others are gnostic in origin. The Book of Moses was one, but only the first five books, as they are seen now, exist. Originally, they were once one text before the modern inclusion of numbered verses, provided they were written by the same author. One text could have taken months to finish, and perhaps it was circulated among the population before completion, but we may never know. There are people that treat the bible as form of voodoo and magic, but thats rot. The supernatural is still "natural", just on a different level of operation.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 03:19 GMT On Feb 14, 8:58 pm, Rod
> There is only one correct interpretation of scripture. It isn't a > crime to be wrong about something, but it's best that others more [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should you be wrong in what you have taught are sometimes disastrous > if not fatal. Have any your interpretations ever been wrong or can there still be some that are wrong now?
> If God is dealing with one person, the message that person gets will > be according to what God wills for that person, and it may not apply to > others. OK
>On the other hand, sometimes God uses one person to send a > message to an entire group of people. There are different examples of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > subtle alterations taken from originals, and still others are gnostic > in origin. If God is going to speak through one person for a group, how do those in that group know to accept that other person - does God speak to each individual to listen to that one specific person?
>The Book of Moses was one, but only the first five books, > as they are seen now, exist. Originally, they were once one text before [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and magic, but thats rot. The supernatural is still "natural", just on > a different level of operation. Yes, it is always a question of knowing who and what to believe.
Rod - 15 Feb 2008 04:10 GMT > On Feb 14, 8:58 pm, Rod > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Have any your interpretations ever been wrong or can there still be > some that are wrong now? Have I ever tried to interpret scripture for myself ? yes. Was it right ? No. Can there be some wrong now ? Yea, it depends on who is interpreting scripture and whether they are spirit led or led by their own will
>> If God is dealing with one person, the message that person gets will >> be according to what God wills for that person, and it may not apply to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If God is going to speak through one person for a group, how do those > in that group know to accept that other person Leading of the Holy Spirit, and His Presence. It isn't voodoo or magic, it's very real, and from time to time you may encounter different churches and preachers trying to fake the Presence. Thats because they have BEEN in His Presence before and learned all they could about how He works in order to create a competent fake. They do this stuff a lot. It draws money into their church. Now you know why many a person is doubtful if not downright hostile towards God, religion can and will separate you from God and your wallet.
I can tell you what to look for in His Presence, but that would be like cheating you out of the icing on the cake. Do you really want that ? I ask because once done I can't undo it..
- does God speak to
> each individual to listen to that one specific person? He did so in the case of Moses and Aaron, and He did so in the cases of the other prophets, as He did with Christ and His disciples. There would be no reason for Him to change how he works, he has NO competent competition, and no one is able to duplicate His methods or works.
>> The Book of Moses was one, but only the first five books, >> as they are seen now, exist. Originally, they were once one text before [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yes, it is always a question of knowing who and what to believe. It isn't a cake walk. Following God is HARD. if you haven't seen it in the lives of the other prophets, you'll see it reflected in the life of Christ and His disciples. It was especially hard also for Paul (Saul of Tarsus), who had to overcome the fears of other Christians concerning himself. He was at an extreme disadvantage, and had not God sent Peter to help belay those fears of people, people might not have harkened to Pauls teaching. That would have been a major loss for the gentile population of the world. Paul, Saul of Tarsus was once a very dangerous man to Christians, hence the fear of the general Christian population.
You know, Andrew said to me a few posts ago, fear not those that can kill the body, but fear Him that can kill both body and soul. If you didn't see it, discernment will tell you that Andrew KNEW that i am weak in this area, he could see it. With the Gift of the Holy Spirit comes also an insight that is never wrong, because it is of the Holy Spirit. For me, it is easier to take a blow, a blackened eye or broken nose than it is to just simply walk away. It isn't the fight I fear, but the word "coward". I've had my share of violence, on the receiving end and on the giving end, and the giving part is the cowards way out. I'm a coward, but I'm trying to learn the bravery that Andrew knows. It takes time and faith.
I hope I haven't bored you, and maybe been of some help.
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2008 04:41 GMT It really comes down to each person's faith/beliefs. Each should respect others views and offer help if asked and "live and let live."
> mortonmull...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Feb 14, 8:58 pm, Rod [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > > I hope I haven't bored you, and maybe been of some help. Rod - 15 Feb 2008 15:11 GMT > It really comes down to each person's faith/beliefs. Each should > respect others views and offer help if asked and "live and let live." Not when it violates the sanctity of the lives of others. It is the initiator of these types of deeds that have to be dealt with. An example is a serial killer; you don't balk at confining him or putting him down when he is attempting to murder someone only because it violates his right to a long and happy life. His rights are second only to written laws, laws written to protect, not solely to deprive another of his rights without good cause.
Serial killers and serial rapists believe in what they do, should their activities go unchecked ? No. You have to look at humanity as a whole, and observe what effect your methods of restraining these people have on the population, particularly those more immediately affected by both you and the one incarcerated.
I'm not a believer in punishment solely as a means of revenge, but I do place my trust in the fact that the killer has no wish to die in the manner that his or her victims have. Taking a life is an awful thing to do, it's casting away all the work and effort that God expended in the act of creating, but thats what a killer or rapist does. Where a killer destroys the body and the dreams of life, a rapist ravages the heart and soul of a woman. The body heals most of the time, the mind and heart rarely heal completely. So yes, "live and let live" with limits. we wouldn't need those limits if we weren't so agressive and violent a species. To look at man and his actions and words, one is seeing the characteristics of the nature of man manifest itself, called sin by many, and evil by many more.
We weren't born with it, but acquired it as a disease is acquired thru contact. I've never seen an agressive and violent baby, it just hasn't happened without a physical cause or external stimulation.
>> mortonmull...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> On Feb 14, 8:58 pm, Rod [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >> >> I hope I haven't bored you, and maybe been of some help. Rod - 14 Feb 2008 22:01 GMT > On Feb 14, 8:54 am, Rod You ARE a follower of God, >> aren't you "Anne", or just another fair weather Christian ?? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Even within Christianity there are differences as to what God wants, > so how do you do you determine which is correct? Well, if it isn't Onideous Mad Hatter, better known and Matthew Moulton.
Mike Mordant - 14 Feb 2008 16:57 GMT On Feb 12, 8:49 pm, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Innews:1c21e1fe-398b-4040-ad91-79d4e6473206@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com, > J A <jantero...@hotmail.com> typed: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > about the possible consequences. If you want to risk being prosecuted > for a newgroup post... your problem, not mine. I did not make the laws. Psst- Addresses are public, not private information.
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 04:41 GMT > I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman > (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > You're an hysterical coward and a liar. You're a punk with a loud mouth.
> Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a > lot of intervening streets. Ever hear of rental property dummy ?? Of course not, you're to busy roping jackaloupes...
> I wonder how the police will like you involving them in your cowardly > threats. > > Atheist? Christians should be killed? I go to church myself. I wasn't aware that Cowboys Saloon held church services. get your bible from a bottle, do we ?
Cowboy Saloon 108 South 2nd Street Laramie, WY
> You are an embarrasment to any Christian, except Chung. Coming from a bar fly that funny if not down right hypocritical.
> In another post to Chung, you state that somebody sent an email to you > threatening your life. > > Then you conjured up a story about how you were trying to lure this > person so he would show himself, presumably at this empty lot, (a mile > from your house and 2 miles from the police station). Conjured a story ? Try proving it isn't so ! Oh thats right, you'd have to leave your favorite bar to do that.
This must be an indication of what your services are like on Sundays, getting soused for Jesus !
> Were you going to sit in Hardees with a binoculars watching 24/7 for > days on end? You evidently are far to stupid to know how bad your information is, but come on down to Emporia punk, and find the facts out for yourself. There is only one Hardees in Emporia, and the one across from Regency Drive has been closed for years. And, your infor is so bad that you have mistaken 6th street for Regency, so your 300 yards north of where you should have been, and you want me to let a fool like you determine the authenticity of that email instead of the pros ?? What a laugh, have you been drinking again ?
Have a good evening, beer hall hardass. Get your courage from the bottom of a Jim Beam bottle ??
Thought Police Agent #2376 - 14 Feb 2008 19:18 GMT > > I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman > > (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > Have a good evening, beer hall hardass. Get your courage from the > bottom of a Jim Beam bottle ?? Very christian of you.
Rod - 14 Feb 2008 20:37 GMT >>> I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman >>> (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > Very christian of you. How very atheist of you....
Ken W - 15 Feb 2008 02:25 GMT > > I am assuming the person posting as "Rod" is actually Rod Eastman > > (Emporia KS) as he has claimed - this isn't proven and "Rod" may be [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > You're a punk with a loud mouth. The punk is the one who makes threats he's too cowardly to back up, punk, coward, liar.
Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a lot of intervening streets.
It's not a rental property.
But if it is, you shouldn't mind me posting the address.
Should I post the address?
I wonder how the police will like you involving them in your cowardly threats.
Atheist? Christians should be killed? I go to church myself.
You are an embarrasment to any Christian, except Chung.
In another post to Chung, you state that somebody sent an email to you threatening your life.
Then you conjured up a story about how you were trying to lure this person so he would show himself, presumably at this empty lot, (a mile from your house and 2 miles from the police station).
Were you going to sit in one of those fast food places rewith a binoculars watching 24/7 for days on end?
I think you're lying about getting threatening emails.
But anybody can do a Google groups search on you and see the numbers of abusive posts you send to people, accussing them of all sorts of things, so it's possible someone might have sent you an angry email.
IN REPLY TO THIS POST, POST THAT LIFE THREATENING EMAIL INCLUDING ALL HEADERS AND PATHS. (This is the second time I'm telling "Rod" to post the thing, the coward liar has failed to do it so far, becasue it doesn't exist).
Anything sent over the internet is tracable and there should be internet savvy people who can look at this thing and see if its real, and who or where it's from.
Let's see that email, "Rod".
If you can't do that, then slink off and quit pestering decent people.
> > Your place is over a mile away from the phony location you gave with a > > lot of intervening streets. > > Ever hear of rental property dummy ?? Of course not, you're to busy > roping jackaloupes... LOL. Your lies are transparent - should I post the address then? Maybe it will attract some renters...
> You evidently are far to stupid to know how bad your information is, > but come on down to Emporia punk Who cares about the names of fast food dumps.
> Have a good evening, beer hall hardass. Drop by any time, punk, coward, liar.
Here's the address coward Rod left for somebody to come see him.
Rod Eastman 2740 Regency Drive, Emporia Kansas...
It's an empty field a mile from his house, (which he now claims is a rental he doensa't live at).
Pathetic.
In other posts, Rod says he wants to get someone to come to Emporia to confornt him, so the coward can then call the police and put charges on the person.
This is something that a trashy woman would pull, not a man.
Rod - 15 Feb 2008 03:20 GMT Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the decency to show up to get your butt whipped then stop complaining and shut up.
You have no idea about where I live at all. What you have is an address of 1333 Garfield for where I lived over a year ago, and property evaluation records don't keep track of leased duplexes or who leases them, nor does it entail who I rent my property to, when or how long. Your google and property research records are only as accurate as the people maintaining those records and how often they are updated, or how accurate the original info is, and in this case it's real poor. Now I'll clue you in here, as I'm doing you a favor as I think you're as stupid as dirt. I live within 500 yards of the vacant lot you were looking at, which was once a Kmart. Right next to the east is Reebles Price Chopper, and in front of that to the north is the old Hardees, which is the new Arby's. The address of that vacant lot you were crying about is a 6th street address, not a regency drive address, and 2740 is not a vacant lot, but a duplex at the west end of regency drive, as can be verified by someone with competent info like Terra server. Google sucks and so do U.
You're pretty much a fool and a liar, and a waste of time. But if it will console you in any way, you're funny.....from now on you can do your squawking in my kill file. Maybe you can meet a queer or two down there to rail at. Seems more your style, weasel...
Rod
Ken W - 16 Feb 2008 20:29 GMT > Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and > get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the > decency to show up to get your butt whipped then stop complaining and > shut up. The coward has already given a false address of where he supposedly lives.
He's an old geezer who challenges people, and has already stated he intends to call the police to protect him.
He's a proven coward and a proven liar as anybody can confirm by going reading through the posts in this thread.
> You have no idea about where I live at all. What you have is an > address of 1333 Garfield for where I lived over a year ago, and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you a favor as I think you're as stupid as dirt. I live within 500 > yards of the vacant lot you were looking at, LOL. You're already proven to be a coward and a liar, and a faggot.
You're an old woman who lies about "threatening emails" and calls the police.
which was once a Kmart.
> Right next to the east is Reebles Price Chopper, and in front of that > to the north is the old Hardees, which is the new Arby's. The address > of that vacant lot you were crying about is a 6th street address, not > a regency drive address, and 2740 is not a vacant lot, but a duplex > at the west end of regency drive, as can be verified by someone > with competent info like Terra server. Google sucks and so do U. You're a liar and a coward.
And you know where to find me for real - coward.
> You're pretty much a fool and a liar, and a waste of time. But if > it will console you in any way, you're funny.....from now on you can > do your squawking in my kill file. Maybe you can meet a queer or two > down there to rail at. Seems more your style, weasel... You accuse others of your own traits.
You're a queer yourself, and a coward and a liar.
Rod - 16 Feb 2008 21:16 GMT >> Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and >> get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > LOL. You're already proven to be a coward and a liar, and a faggot. Yes Ken, I know you're at least two of those. As for being a faggot, well thats your business. But maybe some wyoming cross between a redneck and a jackaloupe will find out you're a fag and you'll end up as the next matthew shephard, not that I see anything wrong in that !
> You're an old woman who lies about "threatening emails" and calls the > police. Police don't see it as a lie, and they are professionals. You on the other hand are just some clown that has chosen to infest the wonderful city of Laramie, sad day for them ! And on top of it, you're probably the guy that sent the email and mad about it. The main reason you won't come to Kansas to get me is that you could be placed under arrest here, and you know it.
It's just a matter of time till you either "lose it" and come after me, and I have no plans to ease up on you one bit. The asd part is that you have to be physically in Kansas for the law to do a thing to you, and thats why you haven't come.
Isn't that sad, the little criminal Ken wants to make threats by email and possibly kill someone, but it';s cowardly to turn the little criminal in to the police for threatening murder.
Better go back to your bar and pour down some more beer. It looks like you've run short on courage AGAIN !
> which was once a Kmart. >> Right next to the east is Reebles Price Chopper, and in front of that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You're a liar and a coward. You're just a fool and a drunk, period.
> And you know where to find me for real - coward. Under the bottle, behind the bottle, or in the mens room with your face in the stool ?? Catch your lunch their as well ?
>> You're pretty much a fool and a liar, and a waste of time. But if >> it will console you in any way, you're funny.....from now on you can >> do your squawking in my kill file. Maybe you can meet a queer or two >> down there to rail at. Seems more your style, weasel... > > You accuse others of your own traits. No, I'm not accusing anyone of any traits but their own, as you've proven and can be plainly seen. Only a fool takes a drunks word for anything, and their are still some fools around on usenet, maybe you can find one of your very own, or another drunk to listen to you rail on. Why, if their are two of you, you can get on the net and send email threats to your hearts desire, and have a beer between threats !
> You're a queer yourself, and a coward and a liar. Translation: I Ken, am to much of weasel to come because I make death threats but don't want to be jailed for them.
Ken W - 17 Feb 2008 23:06 GMT > >> Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and > >> get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Yes Ken, I know you're at least two of those. As for being a faggot, > well thats your business. You used the term first, coward, and it's probably becasue it's so familiar to you, "Rod boy".
This coward has already given a false address of where he supposedly lives.
He's an old geezer who challenges people, and has already stated he intends to call the police to protect him. That's cowardice.
He's a proven coward and a proven liar as anybody can confirm by going reading through the posts in this thread.
You're a coward "Rod boy".
If his name is actually Rod Eastman, as he claims, then anybody can use Dex online phone directory to not only get his current address and phone, but also his neighbors.
You've made a lot of "friends" online "Roddy".
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2008 23:11 GMT http://HeartMDPhD>com/Convicts/PrayForKen
Rod - 16 Feb 2008 21:17 GMT >> Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and >> get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > You're a queer yourself, and a coward and a liar. Oh yea, I was going to plonk YOU !
PLONK ! Bye bozo....
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 21:24 GMT > > Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and > > get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The coward has already given a false address of where he supposedly > lives. Actually, your not directly addressing the addressee and your name- calling indicate that you are the defeated one here.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
You do not have much longer, dear Ken:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
May we, who are victorious in LORD Jesus Christ, continue to pray for your perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKen
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 16 Feb 2008 21:37 GMT >>> Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and >>> get it. I can't see an anchor holding you down. If you haven't the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword Andrew, I feel bad about talking the way I have in my posts to him, but I'm told that provoking him is the only way to find out who it may be. I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage, I sure hope God will understand..
Rod
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 21:50 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > but I'm told that provoking him is the only way to find out who > it may be. Someone told you wrong.
"Those who live by the sword will die by the sword." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
Amen.
> I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage, > I sure hope God will understand.. HE understands you just as HE understood Peter when he drew the sword that HE had ordered HIS disciples carry and when he cut off Malchus' ear. This was made evident when Jesus gently rebuked Peter to put away the sword and then reattached Malchus' ear.
Now, let us both join other believers, in praying for dear neighbor Ken's perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convict/PrayForKen
Ken is afraid of his body dying because it would be the end of his soul ...
... we, who have placed our faith in LORD Jesus Christ, are not afraid of our bodies dying because we know our souls have been saved:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PrayForKen
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Rod - 17 Feb 2008 00:10 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>>> Ohhhh stop your whining Ken. If you want a piece of me then come and [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword Amen Andrew !
Lt. Heyl, Thought Police - 17 Feb 2008 01:42 GMT > I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage Amen! Maranatha! Hallelujah! Goo goo ga joob!
The first correct thing you've posted in this NG yet.
Rod - 17 Feb 2008 04:50 GMT >> I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The first correct thing you've posted in this NG yet. Coming from a cretin like you it doesn't mean much..
Rod - 17 Feb 2008 04:52 GMT >> I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The first correct thing you've posted in this NG yet. No one is twisting your arm to read my posts, and no one was twisting Kens arms to make him act like an a.s.. for him and you it comes naturally...
Rod - 17 Feb 2008 04:58 GMT >> I feel like someone that should be confined in a cage > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The first correct thing you've posted in this NG yet. The bad part of this is that creeps like you stay hidden and never come out in the light of day. I guess this gives you the feeling of no accountability..very sad...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2008 05:59 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazySockPuppet
Rod - 17 Feb 2008 16:38 GMT > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazySockPuppet (2) On a regular basis, some of satan's sockpuppets claim to hear the voices of Jesus' brethren through the text-based medium of usenet.
yea....no. 2 there, I've said the same thing a time or two. Not a good sign....
Rod
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2008 17:52 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > yea....no. 2 there, I've said the same thing a time or two. Not a good > sign.... Correct, it is not what HE wants for us...
... mental illness is bad (i.e. not what HE wants for HIS children).
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to pray for dear convicted neighbor Ken Wood:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKen
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
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