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Nomen Nescio - 10 Feb 2008 23:50 GMT
This was my original message:
============================
Be very careful about accepting advice from Dr. Chung.  Evidenced upon
Google are his attempts to mislead true Christians (either deliberately
or accidentally) on at least two subjects.

First the omer is a measure of volume rather than weight, so following
his advice and using a weighing scale to limit your food intake is not
based upon good science or good Bible study.

Second, he has supported a scam created by Ron Wyatt regarding the
Biblical events surrounding The Red Sea Crossing.  When is was pointed
out to Dr. Chung that the Wyatt "evidence" was dubious, he responded as
though the poster had written that the Biblical event was dubious.  She
had written no such thing.

These things are independently verifiable by reading old posts, searched
using Google.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56b2128b69da3c69

The above described actions are not consistent with those of a person
guided by The Holy Spirit.  Therefore what guides Dr. Chung is not The
Holy Spirit.

This message has been posted anonymously to avoid personal harassment.

God Bless You
========================

Sadly, it came as no surprise that instead of acting honorably and
issuing a retraction or correction regarding the points raised, Dr.
Chung sought to cast me in the role of the devil and to distract by
focusing on the fact that I had posted anonymously.  My preference is
not to post anonymously, but given the history of harassment extending
out of usenet and into the real world of phone calls at a critic's home
by supporters of Dr. Chung, I decided to act with prudence.

Dr. Chung's responses together with his mistaking prudence for fear are
simply additional measures of how far he has strayed from The Path of God.

God Bless You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Feb 2008 00:09 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:

> This was my original message:
> ============================
> Be very careful about accepting advice from Dr. Chung.

General medical information is not specific medical advice.

Bottom line:

You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in
Scripture...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Liarsatan

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Nomen Nescio - 11 Feb 2008 01:10 GMT
I invite readers to start at the top of this thread.  Note how Dr. Chung
has not only failed to address the two beacons of his
dishonesty/stupidity but he has actually attempted to twist "advice"
into "specific medical advice" to suit his purposes of
red-herring/straw-man.

Such clumsy dishonesty would never come from one guided by The Holy
Spirit, therefore what guides Dr. Chung is not The Holy Spirit.

God Bless You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Feb 2008 03:13 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> into "specific medical advice" to suit his purposes of
> red-herring/straw-man.

What is labelled "advice" from a known physician, who signs with his/
her credentials, is automatically "specific medical advice" in the
context of unmoderated usenet newsgroups.

Bottom line:

You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in
Scripture...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Liarsatan

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
J666 - 11 Feb 2008 03:22 GMT
OAF

We have heard rumors that Mark D. Sade, owner of the Mableton BDSM
Club for whom some claim that Dr. Chung is the bondservant, leading a
group to Ethiopia to rescue Dr Chung from the group of apes led by
Omerus, chief of that group.  We cannot understand by Mark D. Sade
would do that, but is glad someone is doing that.

We have heard that Dr. Phil is planning a TV show on the psychological
problems of those held captive by apes as Dr. Chung has been.

On Feb 10, 9:13 pm, "Two" Poundus did type

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 81 lines]
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Feb 2008 04:25 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/OriginalAssinineFool
J666 - 11 Feb 2008 04:32 GMT
On Feb 10, 10:25 pm, "Andrew B. Chung,
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/OriginalAssinineFool

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Bondservants/Chung/MarkDSade - warning adult
content
Nomen Nescio - 11 Feb 2008 08:50 GMT
Dr. Chung wrote:
>What is labelled "advice" from a known physician, who signs with his/
>her credentials, is automatically "specific medical advice" in the
>context of unmoderated usenet newsgroups.

Dr. Chung's attempt to redefine "advice" into "specific medical advice"
is shown as a lie when you see phrases such as "Suggested reading for
others: " in other posts by Dr. Chung.  No doubt he will attempt to
twist and turn and further dangle this red herring as he attempts in
sophist style to ignore the original thrust of this thread.  Dr. Chung
has yet to issue correction or retraction for confusing weight for
volume and confusing scam for Biblical event.

I seriously doubt that outside certain legal or medical circles here in
the US that "advice" is taken to mean "specific medical advice", and
would be interested to see any usenet document such as an RFD which
defines "advice" to mean "specific medical advice" internationally.

To circumvent further distraction, there are a number of terms which
more accurately describe what Dr. Chung writes, "lies", "junk",
"garbage", "nonsense" to name but a few, but I had hoped to avoid using
these.

God Bless You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Feb 2008 09:14 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> is shown as a lie when you see phrases such as "Suggested reading for
> others: " in other posts by Dr. Chung.

Not for the discerning.  Your sockpuppet's inability here to directly
address the addressee in this post is a tell that allows those who are
discerning to know that it no longer has the free will to do anything
but evil, which is your will.

Bottom line:

You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in
Scripture...

http://HeartMDphD.com/Convicts/Liarsatan

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, conitnue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Nomen Nescio - 11 Feb 2008 10:40 GMT
Dr. Chung wrote:
<Not for the discerning.  Your sockpuppet's inability here to directly
<address the addressee in this post is a tell that allows those who are
<discerning to know that it no longer has the free will to do anything
<but evil, which is your will.

For as many times in as many posts Dr. Chung has not only unwittingly
reinforced the assertion that he prefers sophistry to truth, he has also
shown himself pridefully unwilling to correct specific errors
demonstrated in this thread.

Now he has once again shown failing discernment as I exercise my free
will to not engage in direct discussion with him.  I have no desire to
converse with his sick mind.  I wish only for Dr. Chung to recognize
that he is in error and that when he addresses honestly the points
raised at the start of this thread, he will have started on the road to
recovery and to a true and good path with God.

God Bless You
Nomen Nescio - 11 Feb 2008 10:50 GMT
The dishonesty exhibited by Dr. Chung is astounding.  See the thread
"Warning to Christian Readers updated"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002c6237cdf55a08

God Bless You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 11 Feb 2008 11:03 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan
J666 - 12 Feb 2008 01:21 GMT
On Feb 11, 5:03 am, ""Two Poundus typed:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan

OAF

Our greatest fears have been realized. We have been worried about all
the posts with an URL ending in "atan."  We can now confirm that Dr.
Chung has been moved, along with "Two" Poundus, to the country of
Omersatan.  We will try to find out more.

Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
reason, God is not answering our prayers.
Father Haskell - 13 Feb 2008 06:53 GMT
> On Feb 11, 5:03 am, ""Two Poundus typed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
> reason, God is not answering our prayers.

Omersatan now controls the world iridium market.  Invest
in Omersatan.
Father Haskell - 13 Feb 2008 06:55 GMT
> On Feb 11, 5:03 am, ""Two Poundus typed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
> reason, God is not answering our prayers.

Omersatan now controls the world iridium market.  Invest
in Omersatan.
Seventh Deadly Sin - 13 Feb 2008 07:26 GMT
[piggyback]

On Wednesday 13 February 2008 06:55, Father Haskell, from
sci.med.cardiology, who can be reached at fatherhaskell@yahoo.com,
frolicked in the woodlands and proclaimed in
<e8265b40-ce2b-4f43-8bb9-c90262783533@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>:

>> On Feb 11, 5:03 am, ""Two Poundus typed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
>> reason, God is not answering our prayers.

i don't know. i pray for the bananas myself.
Signature

~~ oo ~~
KIFHHH!
A proud member of KookSlayers International
~~ oo ~~

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 13 Feb 2008 08:22 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
J666 - 13 Feb 2008 14:30 GMT
On Feb 13, 1:26 am, Seventh Deadly Sin.

> i don't know. i pray for the bananas myself.

Swords, as in swordbearer and bananas are both phallic symbols.

We are worried with Chung eating 4 gallons of bananas a day.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 13 Feb 2008 19:35 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
J666 - 13 Feb 2008 19:54 GMT
On Feb 13, 1:35 pm, Chungatan typed

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

We are happen to see that at least Chungatan has recognized OAF
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 07:01 GMT
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
>
> We are happen to see that at least Chungatan has recognized OAF

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly reveal your unhappy state.

Laus Deo ! ! !

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful :-)

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 13 Feb 2008 07:04 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF
Don Kirkman - 16 Feb 2008 08:05 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<c8a7df23-9b55-4be8-81d5-e5c2714486a9@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:

>May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
>2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
>Man ...

As I've suggested before, I think you and Bishop Ussher are the only two
who think that number is accurate.  

Welcome to the 17th Century.
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 08:33 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> As I've suggested before, I think you and Bishop Ussher are the only two
> who think that number is accurate.

Without the LORD, what you think is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your perishing soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDon

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
Don Kirkman - 16 Feb 2008 23:03 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<6e277b9c-6d76-4490-bcc3-328977a568bc@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c64fbf65d899cb8e?

>> >May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
>> >2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
>> >Man ...

>> As I've suggested before, I think you and Bishop Ussher are the only two
>> who think that number is accurate.

>Without the LORD, what you think is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Sorry, but you have neither the authority nor the ability to know
anybody else's relationship to God; you might concern yourself with the
condition of your own relationships instead.
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2008 23:52 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Sorry, but you have neither the authority nor the ability to know
> anybody else's relationship to God;

It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.

Knowledge conferred by the Holy Spirit is neither authority nor
ability.

Bottom line:

You remain pathologically untruthful.

Here are observations in the past concerning your lack of
truthfulness:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your perishing soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDon

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
mortonmullens@hotmail.com - 17 Feb 2008 00:11 GMT
On Feb 16, 5:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung

> It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.

It is certainly your choice, along with the many others who do the
same, to say, do and write what you want, but that does not make it
true just as it is not true for others who say, do and write opposing
things using the very same basis.
J666 - 17 Feb 2008 00:45 GMT
On Feb 16, 6:11 pm, mortonmull...

> It is certainly your choice, along with the many others who do the
> same, to say, do and write what you want, but that does not make it
> true just as it is not true for others who say, do and write opposing
> things using the very same basis.

Morton -
I regret to inform you that you are very likely to be convicted by the
Holy Spirit and your name will be posted on one of Chung's web pages
as the Holy Spirit uses that web page. The amazing thing is that the
Holy Spirit uses people's Google group username rather than the
person's real name - I would think the Holy Spirit would know that,
but evidently does not. So if that is your real name, rather than a
username or a sockpuppet, then you are personally doomed.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2008 06:05 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazySockPuppet
 
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