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Vytorin, Zetia and surrogate endpoints

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sphynx.red@gmail.com - 28 Jan 2008 15:53 GMT
The FDA allowed Zetia on the market using results that measured a
surrogate endpoint.  They measured LDL-C reduction instead of heart-
attack or death.  This isn't a bad thing in itself. The problem is
that the FDA allowed them to use an inferior surrogate endpoint.

Why are cardiologists still treating to LDL-C outcomes when more
specific outcomes are available? You're going to the effort and
expense of running a randomized clinical trial. You've got the patient
in the lab and are already drawing blood. Why not run a VAP or a
Berkeley cholesterol test and look at the LDL and HDL subtypes? Why
didn't the FDA make them look at (and report) LDL particle counts, hs-
CRP and Lp(a)? While you're at it, howabout checking urine albumin,
fasting blood glucose, fasting insulin and A1c?

A much smaller, shorter trial with a more comprehensive set of tests
would have told us a lot more about Zetia a lot earlier -- $3+ billion
worth of prescriptions ago.

Adam Becker Sr

 ps.  What (relatively cheap) test would *you* have wanted the FDA to
have demanded from the original Zetia studies?
Bill - 28 Jan 2008 19:00 GMT
In article
<e8edf20e-6b93-4cf5-bca5-401c541f3551@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

> The FDA allowed Zetia on the market using results that measured a
> surrogate endpoint.  They measured LDL-C reduction instead of heart-
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>   ps.  What (relatively cheap) test would *you* have wanted the FDA to
> have demanded from the original Zetia studies?

This would be something to consider.

Bill
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: Drug Saf. 2007;30(3):195-201.

Psychiatric adverse reactions with statins, fibrates and ezetimibe:
implications for the use of lipid-lowering agents.
Tatley M, Savage R.
New Zealand Pharmacovigilance Centre, Department of Preventative and
Social Medicine, University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand.
michael.tatley@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
The HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors ('statins') have come into widespread
use internationally. There has been a long history of their use in New
Zealand and this use has increased in recent years. There has also been
an increase in the number of reports to the New Zealand Centre for
Adverse Reactions Monitoring (CARM) of suspected psychiatric adverse
reactions associated with statins. The reactions mentioned in these
reports include depression, memory loss, confusion and aggressive
reactions. Convincing reports to CARM of recurrence of these reactions
upon rechallenge add weight to recent studies reporting serious
psychiatric disturbances in association with statin treatment.
Aggressive reactions associated with statins are poorly documented in
the literature. These observations emphasise the need to be vigilant in
looking for these reactions as they can have a significant personal
impact on a patient. The observation that other lipid-lowering agents
have similar adverse effects supports the hypothesis that decreased
brain cell membrane cholesterol may be important in the aetiology of
these psychiatric reactions.
PMID: 17343428 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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sphynx.red@gmail.com - 28 Jan 2008 19:29 GMT
> : Drug Saf. 2007;30(3):195-201.
>
> Psychiatric adverse reactions with statins, fibrates and ezetimibe:
> implications for the use of lipid-lowering agents.

Interesting.  I was aware of some bizarre psychiatric effects with
statins (e.g. see http://www.spacedoc.net/) but I didn't realize that
there were reports of comparable effects with other cholesterol-
lowering approaches.
bigvince - 28 Jan 2008 19:40 GMT
On Jan 28, 10:53 am, sphynx....@gmail.com wrote:
> The FDA allowed Zetia on the market using results that measured a
> surrogate endpoint.  They measured LDL-C reduction instead of heart-
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>   ps.  What (relatively cheap) test would *you* have wanted the FDA to
> have demanded from the original Zetia studies?

You mean that from the drug makers view the 3 billion plus was not the
really important number. I expect they milked this drug for all it was
worth
sphynx.red@gmail.com - 28 Jan 2008 20:48 GMT
> You mean that from the drug makers view the 3 billion plus was not the
> really important number. I expect they milked this drug for all it was
> worth.

Well, yes, obviously.

But what I'm asking is, "Should the FDA allow drugs on the market
based on surrogate endpoints?"  After Zetia/Vytorin, one is tempted to
say "Heck NO!"  But remember that the current practice (of allowing
drugs to market based on surrogate endpoints) was forced on the FDA.
They were refusing to let AIDS drugs onto the market quickly --
because there weren't RCTs with hard endpoints.

I think the FDA should continue to (sometimes) allow drugs on the
market quickly, even without hard endpoint studies.  But there's a
proviso.  If manufacturers are forgoing hard endpoints, they should
have to use the best possible surrogates.
 
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