But not the object of the story.

Which is what these liars are saying.

You'll never get them to admit the difference.

That's exactly what my girlfriend said to me last week.

And that!

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279

  Naw, still here. But seriously, you are one of the few I will give a
reasonable answer to. I can't provide you with proof of God, I can't
even approach doing it without violating certain scriptures, but if I
were to do so, I would point you our and that which is in front of you,
which would still be unacceptable to you, so what is the point at all
in providing it ? None. I've seen claims by atheists and agnostics of
solid refutations, but links to none and evidence of none, just lame
claims...

  I tried to explain previously, but the explanation went largely
ignored to attend to the spirit of oneupmanship. Thats one indication
that many atheists don't like the truth and can't stand to here it
without having to tolerate some psychological pain and emotional
distress. The reason is this; the scriptures plainly state that we
( Christians) are to turn our backs on those having refused God's
invitation to hear His word twice or more and not to
fellowship with them, in other words treat them as you would normally
treat a friend or neighbor or family member. Answering some questions is
a little different as it is not considered fellowshipping. Preaching or
discussion with edification of this kind of unbeliever as the goal WOULD
be considered as a violation of that prohibition, as sharing the Word of
God with one who has rejected it is the same as sharing food with him or
eating an evening meal with him.

 Now, on the chance that I failed to make it clear ( my own failing,
not on your end ), someone who refuses the Word twice or more and
continues in unbelief is to be treated as one would treat a deceased
person, since that IS the logical result of refusing the Word, at least
from our perspective. As atheists do not believe in any God, they cannot
accept
this perspective, and hence their ignorance at understanding my previous
explanation, labeling it as a dodge or hustle as they are incapable of
understanding the truth.

  I'm not certain from your mannerism if you actually are one of these,
but your actions will soon reveal it.

Well, liar?

What a f.cking moron. It's simple what it takes to hold a discussion.
Common shared understanding. That is a lie used as a red herring.

Which is why you do it.

You know your pretend friend isn't part of that because we're not
Christian. But you don't give a sh.t about that, you're going to talk
at us as though it were real.

And we're not the government, moron.

You are a liar as well as an idiot, who imagines his freedom of speech
allowing him to be an in-our-face nasty, stupid, bigoted personal
liar, trumps our freedom to treat you as all that.

Why don't you learn some basic logic and courtesy, as well as the
rules of discussion, eg that it has to be from common shared
understanding which doesn't include your god?

Oh, I forgot. You freedom of speech exempts you from that.

And you imagine your freedom of speech forces us to put up with your
stupidity, rudeness and personal lies about us.

While pretending exercising our own to treat you as what you have
shown yourself to be, and explaining what you have to do to hold a
discussion, abridges it?

Can't you honestly respond to a clear question EVEN ONCE?
Or are you stuck in that maladptive Christan paradigm of totally
dishonesty, 24/7?

Usenet is not an American enterprise.  Usenet groups have *charters*,
and violating a group's charter - as you are doing in insisting on
proselytizing here - can get your account killed by your ISP.  So keep
it up.  I've already reported you for net abuse, and I'm betting I'm
not the only one who has.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

No you go talking about your UGABUGA as if it is real and we have the
vain hope that our asking for proof might sink past the layers of your
primitive superstions that you do not have one iota of real and
tangible proof.  Likely it will not, but at least it is a stress
reliever from our day to day life of having to put up with the
primitive superstitions of other tribal natives. We do not call into
question those that we live around out of the need to get along and
out of respect that they are at least not rude enough to attempt to
shove them in our face, unlike yourself.

We really think both you and them are completely nuts; however you,
being also a rude jackass, will then become a legitimate target for
our ire.

Not that you really gave a f.ck about the real reason and you will
continue to hoot and insult us for saying "I think you are full of
sh.t, if you have proof otherwise, show it to us, otherwise, you are
just full of sh.t." For having the temerity of not putting up with
"UGABUGA IS REAL, FEAR UGABUGA!" without pointing out you are a
gibbering tribal primitive

Hatter

As a hypothetical until you have proven it, moron.

But then you knew than and were just being dishonest. Again.

Lie,

Lie.

a.shole.

no, you & your ilk could never hurt my feelings. your meanlingless threats
to burn in hell for eternity are just laughable. it's such a pity you can't
how ridiculous you look. btw, you just couldn't resist replying could you?
Now piss off & don't bother responding.

Translation:  you *don't* know what an atheist actually is, all you
can do is parrot the abusive, hateful definition of atheism that you
were taught.

You've got *nothing*, and you're aware of it. You can't sustain a
rational conversation outside of your fundy comfort zone, so when
challenged, you resort to the scatalogical insult.

How typically christian.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

That's the very BEST argument in favour of your sky-pixie then?

Keep going please!
You are an example to any waverer out there of just what brain damage
faith wreaks.

Is this psychopath a Chung groupie?

Oh, the irony.

That would be news to Stella, lying moron.

What are you doing in alt.atheism?
 

What "my rule", liar? That is merely one of the real world's rules for
discussion. It has to be from common shared  understanding. I suggest
you look up the fallacy of "begging the question".

Move your lips when you read it if it makes it easier to understand.

It means that you are using presumptions that aren't granted. There
are two ways to get to the shared understanding required for
discussion: back up your presumptions so that they are granted, or not
make them and use something else that is part of common understanding.

It is extremely rude as well as stupid not to use common shared
understanding. Because it means you are talking at your audience not
with them. As well as not giving a sh.t that they don't grant them,
you're going to talk at them anyway.

Think about it: are you talking to yourself? Because you're the only
person in the "discussion" who grants them.

There. That wasn't so hard, was it?

Perhaps now you might show some common sense and courtesy instead of
lying that the normal everyday rules for discussion are somehow "my"
rules and that they abridge your first amendment rights.

And what "my beliefs" were you lying about again?

We know. You are a thoroughly nasty, bigoted, stupid individual.

I would have one if you weren't so in-our-face nasty.

The way you see it?  Happily, that has nothing to do with
reality.  You can't even get you're insults straight.

You're an impotent bully who has to hide behind an equally
impotent god.

Are you rejoicing yet?

  Why ?? Well...The Lord isn't exactly on "appear on demand" basis with
  His followers, else every atheist for a thousand miles would be
demanding to see Him to believe. be of good cheer though, even though
it will signal your doom you WILL get to see the proof you have demanded

  As scripture plainly states, God wants His followers to demonstrate
  true faith, not the kind that says I believe BECAUSE I see. What kind
  of faith is that ? It's the same kind of faith that would demand proof
  again if He were to tell you to do something for Him without
questioning His instructions, but you would do so anyway.

  Thomas was the exception, NOT the rule. Scripture plainly states that
  there will only be one sign given, the sign of Jonah, and Christ was
  that sign.

  You've heard of it, you've known of it, and you've ignored it to
follow your own whims. You've sealed your own fate.

And he pretends he doesn't understand why he is called a liar.

It's a certifiable, psychopathic lunatic.

Worse than that.

We only ask for evidence when they beg the question by rudely and
stupidly talking at us as though it were real outside their religion.

After all, they know we don't share their beliefs.

A brick wall wouldn't respond so nastily, or with personal falsehoods
like this psychopath accusing us of denying something, when he refuses
to show there is anything to deny. Or insist that he wasn't preaching
at us but explaining.

He did that as soon as he blasphemed against the Holy Spirit long
ago...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Beatensatan

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword

It's obvious that you don't believe this crap.  Jesus reportedly
put a death sentence on anyone calling another a fool.

Ahh see The shaman gives more threats about UNHAPPY BAD PLACE from the
follower of UGABUGA.
Aren't the tribal primitives funny?

Hatter