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High-fat, high-carb meals more harmful to obese, oxidative stress and inflammation
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aria - 29 Dec 2007 00:14 GMT High-fat, high-carb meals more harmful to obese
Dec 28, 2007
Eating a high-fat, high-carb fast food meal produces damaging cellular changes that are greater and longer-lasting in obese people than in normal-weight people, a new study shows.
Dr. Paresh Dandona and colleagues from Kaleida Health in Buffalo, New York looked at inflammation and oxidative stress, which occurs when levels of normal byproducts of metabolism known as free radicals exceed the body's ability to neutralize them.
In previous research they found that obese individuals have higher levels of v than normal-weight individuals. They also demonstrated that eating a high-fat, high-carb meal increased oxidative stress and inflammation in normal-weight people.
To test whether these increases might be greater in obese people, Dandona and his team had 10 normal-weight and 8 obese people eat a 1,800-calorie meal consisting of a large hamburger, a large serving of fries, a large cola, and a slice of apple pie.
Both groups showed increases in oxidative stress two hours after eating the meal. By three hours, oxidative stress had returned to baseline levels in the normal-weight individuals, but it continued to climb in the obese individuals. The same pattern was seen for inflammation.
"If obese people who already have oxidative and inflammatory stress take the same meal, they get far greater and more prolonged levels of oxidative and inflammatory stress," Dandona told Reuters Health. "Since oxidative and inflammatory stress predispose you to atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries), heart attack and stroke, this risk is far greater in obese people."
In another study, Dandona and his colleagues demonstrated that a high- fruit, high-fiber meal with the same calorie content as the fast food meal tested in the current study produced no increase in oxidative or inflammatory stress.
The findings provide yet more evidence that people should avoid high- fat, high carb fast food meals and consume as much fruit and vegetables as possible, Dandona said.
SOURCE: The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, November
Copyright © 2007 Reuters Limited.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 01:16 GMT > High-fat, high-carb meals more harmful to obese > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > changes that are greater and longer-lasting in obese people than in > normal-weight people, a new study shows. Yes, overeating is harmful for everyone so that it remains wiser for everyone to eat less, down to the optimal amount to become healthier (hungrier) than ever:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
> Dr. Paresh Dandona and colleagues from Kaleida Health in Buffalo, New > York looked at inflammation and oxidative stress, which occurs when [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > 1,800-calorie meal consisting of a large hamburger, a large serving of > fries, a large cola, and a slice of apple pie. A large hamburger would weigh 14 to 16 ounces.
A large serving of fries would weigh 8 to 12 ounces.
A large cola would be 20 ounces.
A slice of apple pie would weigh 4 to 6 ounces.
This would be a total of 46 to 54 ounces of food for one meal, which is clearly excessive.
The optimal amount is 32 ounces for the entire day.
> Both groups showed increases in oxidative stress two hours after > eating the meal. Not surprising.
> By three hours, oxidative stress had returned to > baseline levels in the normal-weight individuals, but it continued to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > meal tested in the current study produced no increase in oxidative or > inflammatory stress. No **decrease** either, however.
> The findings provide yet more evidence that people should avoid high- > fat, high carb fast food meals and consume as much fruit and > vegetables as possible, Dandona said. Wiser to eat less, down to the optimal amount, in order to **decrease** oxidative stress thereby become healthier (hungrier) in order to lose the VAT and cure the insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly type-2 diabetes if already present:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and family have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
J666 - 29 Dec 2007 01:33 GMT On Dec 28, 7:16 pm, "Andrew B. Chung
> It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. If that is the GOD who is not critical of your comments in:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/62ffd3c0b 9d7247c/05695702c16bd4f7#05695702c16bd4f7
then, the GOD in your statement, does not know what is meant as good.
Shame shame shame on you Chung.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 01:35 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
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May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-))) J666 - 29 Dec 2007 01:43 GMT On Dec 28, 7:35 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > :-))) Shame shame shame. Chung you have no human decency or are crazy. Your true persona has shown through for all to see. Multiple posts will not change a thing.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 01:55 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-))) J666 - 29 Dec 2007 02:20 GMT On Dec 28, 7:55 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > :-))) Pathetic repetitive response. You either do not understand what you did or do not have the decency to apologize.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 03:40 GMT http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-))) BusinessAccountEmail@gmail.com - 29 Dec 2007 05:00 GMT On Dec 28, 9:40 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > :-))) This does seem to be another example that Chung's Brain is a bot.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 08:55 GMT satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > This does seem to be another example that Chung's Brain is a bot. <><
aria - 29 Dec 2007 09:43 GMT > > To test whether these increases might be greater in obese people, > > Dandona and his team had 10 normal-weight and 8 obese people eat a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > This would be a total of 46 to 54 ounces of food for one meal, which > is clearly excessive. According to McDonald's USA, http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal a Big Mac is total serving weight 7.5 oz (540 cal), a large fries is 6 oz (570 cal), an apple pie 2.7 oz (270 cal) a large Coke is 32 fl-oz (310 cal)
This "meal" would equal 1,700 cal at 16 oz avdp, plus soda carb value about 3 oz sugar. 72 grams fat, inc 19 grams sat fat. 237 grams carbs. 33 grams protein. 14 grams fiber, and 1580 mg sodium.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Dec 2007 10:06 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > According to McDonald's USA, http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal > a Big Mac is total serving weight 7.5 oz (540 cal), Depends on the person fixing the Big Mac for you. If s/he likes you, you will get more food :-)
> a large fries is 6 oz (570 cal), Again, it depends on the person serving you.
> an apple pie 2.7 oz (270 cal) This is not a "slice of apple pie."
> a large Coke is 32 fl-oz (310 cal) This will depend on the amount of ice.
Nonetheless, this adds up to 48.2 ounces of food, which is within the range of 46 - 54 ounces given earlier.
Again, this is excessive because 32 ounces of food is optimal for the **whole** day:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
> This "meal" would equal 1,700 cal at 16 oz avdp, plus soda carb value > about 3 oz sugar. 72 grams fat, inc 19 grams sat fat. 237 grams carbs. > 33 grams protein. 14 grams fiber, and 1580 mg sodium. The calories are meaningless because they are crudely estimated rather than directly measured as would be meal weight for those who are using the 2PD-OMER Approach to eat less down to the optimal amount:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/BeRight
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.
However, there are crazy folks, who have rejected this knowledge and are perishing as predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
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