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MarilynMann - 24 Nov 2007 14:37 GMT
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/magazine/25memoir-t.html?ref=magazine

From the New York Times magazine.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Nov 2007 15:24 GMT
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/magazine/25memoir-t.html?ref=magazine
>
> From the New York Times magazine.

Wiser to stick with the truth in all things.

Be hungry... be healthier... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
truth@is-best.com - 24 Nov 2007 16:27 GMT
Our armchair advocate opined:

"Wiser to stick with the truth in all things."

Indeed, and that truth has suffered much at the hands of some with a
non-scientific agenda.  In the article central to this thread one topic
was how research refuting an assertion was ignored or suppressed, a
pattern familiar to readers.  At least those in the article kept up with
research and did not go about making assertions without being informed.

At least there are those who control those making such assertions in
this news group so others may not be misled.  One should always seek the
opinion of an expert or other posters if such unsupported assertions are
being made.

God bless.
Al - 24 Nov 2007 21:22 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, lying bitch, wrote:

> Wiser to stick with the truth in all things.

Chunk, you are truly full of sh.t.  Among many other lies, you were
caught dead denying having attempted to perform an online exorcism. My
personal favorite though, was your repeated claim that you would never
answer any of my posts, and then your subsequent answering of many.

And I like your lack of balls to admit you're a lying bastard, too.
Flying Rat, Quackologist - 24 Nov 2007 22:12 GMT
In article <c9ba1954-b522-4b00-b56a-
003de0c5250f@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, heartdoc14
@emorycardiology.com says...
> Wiser to stick with the truth in all things.

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
yamantaka@aol.com - 24 Nov 2007 23:51 GMT
I'm a long time lurker, first time poster and a physician. Chung is a
delusional, paranoid schizophrenic. He may be a licensed physician and
a boarded cardiologist, but he doesn't have a verfiable, legitimate
practice anywhere. He doesn't have hospital privileges. He lives in a
fantasy world. He doesn't have one supporter anywhere (other than MU).
He gives dangerous medical advice that could be harmful. He can't cite
any supporters or references that agree with him. He repeatedly cites
only his own vanity websites. He uses a profile portrait that hasn't
been updated in > 14 years. He twists bible passages. He is soundly
trounced and ridiculed no matter where he posts. He was kicked off of
Sermo,  a physician only networking website after about a week of this
nonsense.

I used to find him annoying. Now I just find him pitiful. I wonder if
there is anyone who knew him or cared about him in his early days who
is still in touch with him or his family and could see that he gets
some psychiatric help.

Why bother to do anything? At first baiting and bantering with him
seemed like fun sport. Yet he is concrete in his thinking and only
able to respond in a stereotypical, way with prewritten macros or else
evading or twisting anything he doesn't want to answer truthfully. He
destroys the integrity of any site that he joins.
Jeff - 25 Nov 2007 16:07 GMT
<..>

> I used to find him annoying. Now I just find him pitiful. I wonder if
> there is anyone who knew him or cared about him in his early days who
> is still in touch with him or his family and could see that he gets
> some psychiatric help.

Some of the people with whom he worked on his PhD and his
residency/fellowship at Emory may actually know him in real life. You
could try them.

> Why bother to do anything? At first baiting and bantering with him
> seemed like fun sport. Yet he is concrete in his thinking and only
> able to respond in a stereotypical, way with prewritten macros or else
> evading or twisting anything he doesn't want to answer truthfully. He
> destroys the integrity of any site that he joins.
yamantaka@aol.com - 25 Nov 2007 16:26 GMT
Jeff, Obtaining psychiatric services for Chung is not my
responsibility. Being sure that his whacky, twisted pseudo-science
doesn't potentially harm anyone with diabetes or heart disease is. For
that reason I will point out his short comings and how he twists the
truth.
Jeff - 26 Nov 2007 12:14 GMT
> Jeff, Obtaining psychiatric services for Chung is not my
> responsibility. Being sure that his whacky, twisted pseudo-science
> doesn't potentially harm anyone with diabetes or heart disease is. For
> that reason I will point out his short comings and how he twists the
> truth.

I never said it was.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Nov 2007 23:53 GMT
> > Jeff, Obtaining psychiatric services for Chung is not my
> > responsibility. Being sure that his whacky, twisted pseudo-science
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I never said it was.

Indeed.

"To the liar, everyone else is lying." -- Holy Spirit.

Amen.

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for those who have
been convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Flying Rat, Quackologist - 27 Nov 2007 16:33 GMT
In article <47d551cf-c663-4e86-b0a0-69521c2d1643
@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, heartdoc24@emorycardiology.com says...
> "To the liar, everyone else is lying." -- Holy Spirit.

especially blasphemer Chung who thinks he speaks for God

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number) or others from his vanity domain emorycardiology.com

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover
onto food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as
"being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
yamantaka@aol.com - 27 Nov 2007 20:45 GMT
Chung writes,

""To the liar, everyone else is lying." -- Holy Spirit."

Hey Andrew, so the Holy Spirit gives you quotes? How does he do it?
Through the TV? Through your fillings? Through special messages only
for the discerning?

Careful now...don't lie.
Archie Leach - 27 Nov 2007 21:23 GMT
>Chung writes,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Careful now...don't lie.

Kooky Andy's connection with what he calls the Holy Spirit is
inherently fraudulent.
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges - 27 Nov 2007 21:31 GMT
> >Chung writes,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Kooky Andy's connection with what he calls the Holy Spirit is
> inherently fraudulent.

his ability to receive convenient revelations is almost mormonesque

arf meow arf  -  everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconsciousness of odd bodkins
sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
i am an etruscan dancer
Archie Leach - 27 Nov 2007 21:58 GMT
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >Chung writes,
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>his ability to receive convenient revelations is almost mormonesque

It could be considered moronesque as well.
Art Deco - 01 Dec 2007 01:21 GMT
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >Chung writes,
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>his ability to receive convenient revelations is almost mormonesque

Note that anyone who dares to doubt either the source or the veracity
of his revelations is guilty of HS blasphemy.

Signature

Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
 as designated by Brad Guth
COOSN-266-06-39716

yamantaka@aol.com - 27 Nov 2007 22:51 GMT
On Nov 26, 3:53 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> changed the thread title to:

"Discussion subject changed to "Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: an atheist
is shown to be a liar." by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD "

But Andrew failed to show a) who or where was an athiest and b) how
said athiest was shown to be a liar or c) how this was proven by "LORD
Almighty GOD." Andrew, what makes you think that anything you think or
say is vetted by the Holy Spirit? Perhaps you should google Yamantaka.

You are delusional Andrew. Even your loose associations no longer any
sense.

BTW, I have written to Dr. Wallace per your permission. You encouraged
me to go ahead and contact him.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Nov 2007 02:49 GMT
> <..>
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> residency/fellowship at Emory may actually know him in real life. You
> could try them.

You may certainly ask my PhD dissertation advisor, Dr. Douglas C.
Wallace, about me.

:-)

Here is a news article about him (UCI stole him away from Emory about
5 years ago):

http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/sections/news/news/article_398307.php

Here is a news article about my doing research in his lab at Emory as
a graduate student:

http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win91/chung.html

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
yamantaka@aol.com - 26 Nov 2007 03:14 GMT
Chung says,

"You may certainly ask my PhD dissertation advisor, Dr. Douglas C.
Wallace, about me.

:-) "

How about this, Chung...We all think you have had a schizophrenic
break since doing your Phd. Let's have you contact your dissertation
advisor yourself. Please be sure to give him your most recent Usenet
links and the link to all of your own vanity websites. Ask him to post
his opinion of you then (prior to 1997) and now, 2007. Then, have the
balls and integrity to post his response here, publically.  Ask his
opinion about the 2PD-OMER approach. Post his response to this
newsgroup.

And update your profile portrait photos while you're at it. Those
photos are from 1994 and not what you look like now. Why are you
concealing your current appearance?

Bet you we never see Dr. Wallace's response posted here or anywhere.

Run away, Andrew. Be scared.

I wish you nowmalice and truly hope you get help for your mental
illness. But I won't hesitate to step in if you continue to
misrepresent the legitimate, medical, evidence-based practice of
medicine and you continue to push your crap pseudo-science ideas as
valid. You can harm people with your misguided advice about diets
approach or whatever you choose to call it.
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 05:16 GMT
On Nov 25, 8:49 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

Here is a news article about my doing research in his lab at Emory as
a graduate student:

http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win91/chung.html

---------

That was years ago - you are not being truthful using that old article
- certainly opens the door to just how truthful you are now.
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 05:25 GMT
Add to this misrepresentation about an old article,  the thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_thread/thread/0c89f7612
5faafd1
#

And there is even more reason to at least question what you say
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Nov 2007 05:27 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> That was years ago - you are not being truthful using that old article
> - certainly opens the door to just how truthful you are now.

Actually, truth does not age.

Bottom line:

You remain pathologically untruthful.

This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/JasonDocMD

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 05:44 GMT
On Nov 25, 11:27 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

"Actually, truth does not age."

The truth is that was what he thought of you years ago and says
nothing at all about what he thinks of you now and your "Approach"

When you accuse people it is often a sign of a lack of a good
response.

We are talking about today, not years ago.  People can change for the
better and the worse over the years.  I am sure some teachers probably
had wonderful things to say about Adolf Hitler when he was a student
in his younger years which did not mean he did not turn out to be a
wonderful person.

So the key is NOW, not years ago - that is the "simple truth."
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 05:52 GMT
Chung -

Ask your Dr. Wallace if medical science is based on a "discerning heat"
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 05:56 GMT
Here is Dr Wallace's UCI homepage with his email address so you can
email him:

http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/pediatrics/faculty/genetics/wallace/wallace.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Nov 2007 05:53 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> "Actually, truth does not age."
>
> The truth is that was what he thought of you years ago and says
> nothing at all about what he thinks of you now and your "Approach"

It served simply to establish that Dr. Wallace was my PhD Advisor:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b078a33a1955af5b?

Bottom line:

You remain pathologically untruthful.

This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/JasonDocMD

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 06:00 GMT
On Nov 25, 11:53 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

It served simply to establish that Dr. Wallace was my PhD Advisor:

So what does it have to do with anything NOW and your Approach and
hunger is good. Cannot imagine in your PhD orals you gave irrelevant
answers as you do now and justified your findings on a "discerning
heart" and not scientific findings and logical and supported
conclusions.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Nov 2007 06:10 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f01644db91870342?
>
> So what does it have to do with anything NOW and your Approach and
> hunger is good.

Would suggest you reread the post as many times as is required for
reading comprehension.

In the interim, may we, who are Jesus' brethren continue to pray for
you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/JasonDocMD

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
truth@is-best.com - 26 Nov 2007 16:31 GMT
Our atlanta friend shared:

http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win91/chung.html"

That article almost had me in tears when reading it.  It shows how but
for the grace of God any of us could have suffered his affliction.  Who
knows why some are struck down and others are not.  It explains why we
see so much bitterness and recrimination and lashing out at others with
lesss then love in mind.

My heart and prayers go out.  If I have offended forgive me.

God bless and protect and heal and provide peace.
J666 - 26 Nov 2007 23:41 GMT
On Nov 26, 10:31 am, tr...@is-best.com wrote:
> Our atlanta friend shared:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> God bless and protect and heal and provide peace.

It is a shame that Chung has to go back that many years for an
article.

Yes, there can be a fine line between sanity and insanity.  It is a
shame that someone who was able to get a PhD and an MD and become
board certified is now like this  - was a waste.
 
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