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Effect of carvedilol and metoprolol on the mode of death in patients

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William Wagner - 26 Aug 2007 13:07 GMT
Eur J Heart Fail. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print]

Effect of carvedilol and metoprolol on the mode of death in patients
with heart failure.

Remme WJ, Cleland JG, Erhardt L, Spark P, Torp-Pedersen C, Metra M,
Komajda M, Moullet C, Lukas MA, Poole-Wilson P, Di Lenarda A, Swedberg K.
Sticares Cardiovascular Research Foundation, P.O. Box 882, 3160 AB
Rhoon, The Netherlands.

BACKGROUND: In the COMET study, carvedilol improved survival compared to
metoprolol tartrate in 3029 patients with NYHA II-IV heart failure and
EF <35%, followed for an average of 58 months. AIMS: To evaluate whether
the effect on overall mortality was specific for a particular mode of
death. This may help to identify the mechanism of the observed
difference. METHODS: Of the 1112 total deaths, 972 were adjudicated as
cardiovascular, including 480 sudden, 365 circulatory failure (CF) and
51 stroke deaths. For each mode of death, the effect of pre-specified
baseline variables was assessed, including sex, age, NYHA class,
aetiology, heart rate, systolic blood pressure, EF, atrial fibrillation,
previous myocardial infarction or hypertension, renal function,
concomitant medication, and study treatment allocation. RESULTS: In
multivariate Cox regression analyses, compared to metoprolol, carvedilol
reduced cardiovascular (RR 0.80, CI 0.7-0.91, p=0.0009), sudden (RR
0.77, CI 0.64-0.93, p=0.0073) and stroke deaths (RR 0.37, CI 0.19-0.71,
p=0.0027) with a non-significant trend for CF death (RR 0.83, CI
0.66-1.04, p=0.07). Treatment benefit with carvedilol did not differ
between modes of death, except for a greater reduction in stroke death
with carvedilol (competing risk analysis, p=0.0071 vs CF death). There
were no interactions between treatment allocation and baseline
characteristics. CONCLUSION: Mortality reduction with carvedilol
compared to metoprolol appears relatively non-specific and could be
consistent with a superior effect of carvedilol on cardiac function,
arrhythmias or, in view of the greater reduction in stroke deaths, on
vascular events.
PMID: 17716943 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

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Jim Chinnis - 26 Aug 2007 16:10 GMT
Interesting. Thanks, Bill.
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William Wagner - 26 Aug 2007 17:07 GMT
> Interesting. Thanks, Bill.
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> Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Well if you never mentioned carvedilol in an earlier post I never would
have found it.  

Thank You Jim!

Bill

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David Rind - 26 Aug 2007 21:05 GMT
> Eur J Heart Fail. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print]
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> vascular events.
> PMID: 17716943 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

The COMET trial used an inappropriately low dose of metoprolol, making
its results less useful.

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William Wagner - 26 Aug 2007 21:32 GMT
> > Eur J Heart Fail. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> The COMET trial used an inappropriately low dose of metoprolol, making
> its results less useful.

Where do you find info like that ?   I used to have a scifinder chair
CAS and it had useful front end tools but it still used  Pubmed and
other private databases.

Bill

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT
> > Eur J Heart Fail. 2007 Aug 21; [Epub ahead of print]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> The COMET trial used an inappropriately low dose of metoprolol, making
> its results less useful.

The target dose was 100 mg of metoprolol tartrate versus 50 mg of
carvedilol.  It was certainly enough metoprolol to increase the
incidence of diabetic events.

Source:

http://heart.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/93/8/968

Thus, it remains a matter of debate whether 100 mg of metoprolol
tartrate was an inappropriately low dose.

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David Rind - 27 Aug 2007 02:01 GMT
> Thus, it remains a matter of debate whether 100 mg of metoprolol
> tartrate was an inappropriately low dose.

I agree that it is a matter of debate (in that there are clearly experts
who would take either side of the point I was making). However:

1) The dose used was lower than the dose that had been used in the
earlier heart failure trials with metoprolol.

2) They used tartrate rather than the long-acting succinate that was
used in the heart failure trials.

3) The achieved heart rate reduction was substantially greater with
carvedilol, showing that the degree of beta blockade was not equivalent
in the two arms.

I do not find COMET convincing that carvedilol is superior to
appropriate doses of long-acting metoprolol.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Aug 2007 03:21 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
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> 1) The dose used was lower than the dose that had been used in the
> earlier heart failure trials with metoprolol.

The justification would be that the formulation is different (tartrate
instead of succinate).

> 2) They used tartrate rather than the long-acting succinate that was
> used in the heart failure trials.

This would not go toward supporting your position about the dosage
being too low.

A case could be made that for a head-to-head comparison with short-
acting carvedilol which is dosed twice daily that short-acting twice
daily metoprolol tartrate was appropriately used.

> 3) The achieved heart rate reduction was substantially greater with
> carvedilol, showing that the degree of beta blockade was not equivalent
> in the two arms.

It is not clear that heart rate reduction in heart failure patients is
a good measure of degree of beta blockade.  The case could be made
that because blood pressure lowering in both arms were comparable that
so was the degree of beta blockade.

> I do not find COMET convincing that carvedilol is superior to
> appropriate doses of long-acting metoprolol.

However, it does serve to justify preferential use of carvedilol over
short-acting metoprolol tartrate in heart failure patients.

We will have to wait for head-to-head comparisons of long-acting forms
of carvedilol with long-acting metoprolol succinate to determine which
is better.

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