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MarilynMann - 21 Jun 2007 01:01 GMT
The Waking

I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow.
I feel my fate in what I cannot fear.
I learn by going where I have to go.

We think by feeling. What is there to know?
I hear my being dance from ear to ear.
I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow.

Of those so close beside me, which are you?
God bless the Ground! I shall walk softly there,
And learn by going where I have to go.

Light takes the Tree; but who can tell us how?
The lowly worm climbs up a winding stair;
I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow.

Great Nature has another thing to do
To you and me, so take the lively air,
And, lovely, learn by going where to go.

This shaking keeps me steady. I should know.
What falls away is always. And is near.
I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow.
I learn by going where I have to go.

Theodore Roethke
MarilynMann - 21 Jun 2007 19:00 GMT
Remainder of a Life

If I were told:
By evening you will die,
so what will you do until then?
I would look at my wristwatch,
I'd drink a glass of juice,
bite an apple,
contemplate at length an ant that has found its food,
then look at my wristwatch.
There'd be time left to shave my beard
and dive in a bath, obsess:
"There must be an adornment for writing,
so let it be a blue garment."
I'd sit until noon alive at my desk
but wouldn't see the trace of color in the words,
white, white, white . . .
I'd prepare my last lunch,
pour wine in two glasses: one for me
and one for the one who will come without appointment,
then I'd take a nap between two dreams.
But my snoring would wake me . . .
so I'd look at my wristwatch:
and there'd be time left for reading.
I'd read a chapter in Dante and half of a mu'allaqah
and see how my life goes from me
to the others, but I wouldn't ask who
would fill what's missing in it.
That's it, then?
That's it, that's it.
Then what?
Then I'd comb my hair and throw away the poem . . .
this poem, in the trash,
and put on the latest fashion in Italian shirts,
parade myself in an entourage of Spanish violins,
and walk to the grave!

Mahmoud Darwish
(Translated, from the Arabic, by Fady Joudah.)
William Wagner - 21 Jun 2007 19:08 GMT
Su Tung-po
(1037 - 1101 / China)

Remembrance



To what can our life on earth be likened?
To a flock of geese,
alighting on the snow.
Sometimes leaving a trace

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Cary Kittrell - 21 Jun 2007 19:25 GMT
> Remainder of a Life
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Mahmoud Darwish
> (Translated, from the Arabic, by Fady Joudah.)

That's rather striking.  Thank you.

(does anyone know what a `mu'allaqah' might be?)

-- cary
MarilynMann - 21 Jun 2007 20:24 GMT
> (does anyone know what a `mu'allaqah' might be?)

I believe it's a collection of pre-Islamic Arabic poetry.
Cary Kittrell - 21 Jun 2007 20:51 GMT
> > (does anyone know what a `mu'allaqah' might be?)
> >
> I believe it's a collection of pre-Islamic Arabic poetry.

Ah, perhaps so.

I caught bits and pieces of that idea via Google, but
the term seems to have taken over for commercial
purposes.

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Jun 2007 20:30 GMT
> Remainder of a Life
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Mahmoud Darwish
> (Translated, from the Arabic, by Fady Joudah.)

In a word:

Meaningless

Source:

Book of Ecclesiastes

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Cary Kittrell - 21 Jun 2007 20:58 GMT
> > Remainder of a Life
> >
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> Meaningless

If you're anhedonic or even dsyphoric to the point that the
only thing that can rouse you is contemplating the deaths
of millions via pandemic or total atmospheric conflagration,
or the deaths of your perceived "enemies", then I'm sure
it must seem that way.

Those of us who can still take pleasure in the things
of this world which are beautiful beyond tears know
otherwise.

Poor, poor Andrew.  If I prayed, I would for you.

And although I do not, perhaps something else will
come along.  I know that if they nuke Tehran,
that would put a bounce in your step for the
rest of the day.

-- cary

> Source:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Jun 2007 22:54 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> or the deaths of your perceived "enemies", then I'm sure
> it must seem that way.

Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Those of us who can still take pleasure in the things
> of this world which are beautiful beyond tears know
> otherwise.

That which is evanescently fleeting is meaningless next to that which
is enduringly everlasting.

Beauty in the latter form which occurs with all things of GOD is
infinitely more meaningful.

> Poor, poor Andrew.

If I were poor, I would not be as hungry.

Instead, GOD continues to bless me more than the world could ever
possibly either know or understand:

http://TruthRUS.org/Dreadnought

> If I prayed, I would for you.

I do pray and so you remain in my prayers, dear neighbor Cary whom I
love unconditionally.

> And although I do not, perhaps something else will
> come along.  I know that if they nuke Tehran,
> that would put a bounce in your step for the
> rest of the day.

The end of the world as we know it would sadden me.

However, it is written that GOD will personally wipe away our tears
although it seems you will not be around to witness this firsthand.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Smiler - 22 Jun 2007 01:11 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > >
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Without sense, your words are meaningless (Smiler).

Smiler,
The godless one
MarilynMann - 22 Jun 2007 12:35 GMT
The Idea of Order at Key West

She sang beyond the genius of the sea.
The water never formed to mind or voice,
Like a body wholly body, fluttering
Its empty sleeves; and yet its mimic motion
Made constant cry, caused constantly a cry,
That was not ours although we understood,
Inhuman, of the veritable ocean.

The sea was not a mask.  No more was she.
The song and water were not medleyed sound
Even if what she sang was what she heard.
Since what she sang was uttered word by word.
It may be that in all her phrases stirred
The grinding water and the gasping wind;
But it was she and not the sea we heard.

For she was the maker of the song she sang.
The ever-hooded, tragic-gestured sea
Was merely a place by which she walked to sing.
Whose spirit is this?  we said, because we knew
It was the spirit that we sought and knew
That we should ask this often as she sang.

If it was only the dark voice of the sea
That rose, or even colored by many waves;
If it was only the outer voice of sky
And cloud, of the sunken coral water-walled,
However clear, it would have been deep air,
The heaving speech of air, a summer sound
Repeated in a summer without end
And sound alone.  But it was more than that,
More even than her voice, and ours, among
The meaningless plungings of water and the wind,
Theatrical distances, bronze shadows heaped
On high horizons, mountainous atmospheres
Of sky and sea.
It was her voice that made
The sky acutest at its vanishing.
She measured to the hour its solitude.
She was the single artificer of the world
In which she sang.  And when she sang, the sea,
Whatever self it had, became the self
That was her song, for she was the maker.  Then we,
As we beheld her striding there alone,
Knew that there never was a world for her
Except the one she sang and, singing, made.

Ramon Fernandez, tell me, if you know,
Why, when the singing ended and we turned
Toward the town, tell why the glassy lights,
The lights in the fishing boats at anchor there,
As night descended, tilting in the air,
Mastered the night and portioned out the sea,
Fixing emblazoned zones and fiery poles,
Arranging, deepening, enchanting night.

Oh!  Blessed rage for order, pale Ramon,
The maker's rage to order words of the sea,
Words of the fragrant portals, dimly-starred,
And of ourselves and of our origins,
In ghostlier demarcations, keener sounds.

-- Wallace Stevens
Cary Kittrell - 22 Jun 2007 17:42 GMT
> The Idea of Order at Key West
>
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
>
> -- Wallace Stevens

For a very highly-placed insurance executive,
the boy wrote some fairly good poetry as well.

(I like "The Man with the Blue Guitar", myself)

-- cary
MarilynMann - 22 Jun 2007 18:31 GMT
> In article <1182512110.027589.246...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> MarilynMann <m...@comcast.net> writes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not to mention that he was a lawyer as well.

Marilyn
William Wagner - 22 Jun 2007 18:45 GMT
> > In article <1182512110.027589.246...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 76 lines]
>
> Marilyn

Wallace in my top five favorites.

"The Man with the Blue Guitar"  ********* etc.

The Palm at the end of the Mind.

http://kirjasto.sci.fi/wsteven.htm

Bill who likes poetry in SMC.

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MarilynMann - 22 Jun 2007 20:45 GMT
Aedh Wishes For The Clothes Of Heaven

Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

-- William Butler Yeats
Cary Kittrell - 22 Jun 2007 20:54 GMT
> Aedh Wishes For The Clothes Of Heaven
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -- William Butler Yeats

I swear to Bast, participating in Usenet newsgroups often
makes me flash on this fragment from Yeats:

    Be secret and take defeat from any brazen throat,
    For how can you compete,
    Being honor bred, with one
    Who, were it proved he lies,
    Were neither shamed in his own
    Nor in his neighbors' eyes?
   
   
   
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Jun 2007 21:20 GMT
> > Aedh Wishes For The Clothes Of Heaven
> >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>      Were neither shamed in his own
>      Nor in his neighbors' eyes?

Wiser to side with the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, for Whom there
will never be defeat.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Cary Kittrell - 22 Jun 2007 22:08 GMT
> > > Aedh Wishes For The Clothes Of Heaven
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Wiser to side with the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, for Whom there
> will never be defeat.

And you edited the campus literary magazine?  Geez...

What did you include, Ogden Nash, William the Bloody, and Burma Shave signs?

-- cary

> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
> than ever.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Jun 2007 23:28 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> And you edited the campus literary magazine?

Yes.

>  Geez...

No.

I am not Jesus.

> What did you include, Ogden Nash, William the Bloody, and Burma Shave signs?

No.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Father Haskell - 22 Jun 2007 23:59 GMT
On Jun 22, 6:28 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> I am not Jesus.

You'd make jesus vomit.
Don Kirkman - 23 Jun 2007 00:48 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Cary Kittrell wrote in article
<f5hdoo$3vc$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>:

>> > I swear to Bast, participating in Usenet newsgroups often
>> > makes me flash on this fragment from Yeats:

>> >      Be secret and take defeat from any brazen throat,
>> >      For how can you compete,
>> >      Being honor bred, with one
>> >      Who, were it proved he lies,
>> >      Were neither shamed in his own
>> >      Nor in his neighbors' eyes?

>> Wiser to side with the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, for Whom there
>> will never be defeat.

>And you edited the campus literary magazine?  Geez...

I think I did hear a "whoosh" when I opened this very
apropos/appropriate message, .

>What did you include, Ogden Nash, William the Bloody, and Burma Shave signs?

Hey, don't dis Ogden Nash.  Most of his work was humorous and
intentionally light (with extremely witty and clever almost-rhymes), but
he was capable of some pretty insightful stuff, too; e.g.,

Old Men
by Ogden Nash
 
People expect old men to die,
They do not really mourn old men.
Old men are different. People look
At them with eyes that wonder when...
People watch with unshocked eyes;
But the old men know when an old man dies.
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Cary Kittrell - 23 Jun 2007 00:51 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Cary Kittrell wrote in article
> <f5hdoo$3vc$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> intentionally light (with extremely witty and clever almost-rhymes), but
> he was capable of some pretty insightful stuff, too; e.g.,

You are totally correct, and I actually hesitated before putting
that in.  I probably should have gone with "Halmark Greeting
Cards" instead.

> Old Men
> by Ogden Nash
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> People watch with unshocked eyes;
> But the old men know when an old man dies.

Yo, that IS good.  I stand more than corrected.

-- cary
MarilynMann - 23 Jun 2007 13:17 GMT
THE RIVER-MERCHANT'S WIFE: A LETTER*
Li Bo, trans. Ezra Pound

While my hair was still cut straight across my forehead
I played about the front gate, pulling flowers.
You came by on bamboo stilts, playing horse,
You walked about my seat, playing with blue plums.
And we went on living in the village of Chokan:
Two small people, without dislike or suspicion.
At fourteen I married My Lord you.
I never laughed, being bashful.
Lowering my head, I looked at the wall.
Called to, a thousand times, I never looked back.

At fifteen I stopped scowling,
I desired my dust to be mingled with yours
Forever and forever and forever.
Why should I climb the look out?

At sixteen you departed,
You went into far Ku-to-en, by the river of swirling eddies,
And you have been gone five months.
The monkeys make sorrowful noise overhead.

You dragged your feet when you went out.
By the gate now, the moss is grown, the different mosses,
Too deep to clear them away!
The leaves fall early this autumn, in wind.
The paired butterflies are already yellow with August
Over the grass in the West garden;
They hurt me. I grow older.
If you are coming down through the narrows of the river Kiang,
Please let me know beforehand,
And I will come out to meet you
As far as Cho-fu-Sa.

*Original title: Changgan xing
MarilynMann - 24 Jun 2007 11:45 GMT
HARLEM

What happens to a dream deferred?

Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun
Or fester like a sore-

And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over-

Like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?

-- Langston Hughes
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Jun 2007 13:40 GMT
> HARLEM
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -- Langston Hughes

In returns when you go back to sleep:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
MarilynMann - 25 Jun 2007 13:11 GMT
Dover Beach

The sea is calm to-night.
The tide is full, the moon lies fair
Upon the straits;--on the French coast the light
Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand,
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.
Come to the window, sweet is the night-air!
Only, from the long line of spray
Where the sea meets the moon-blanch'd land,
Listen! you hear the grating roar
Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling,
At their return, up the high strand,
Begin, and cease, and then again begin,
With tremulous cadence slow, and bring
The eternal note of sadness in.

Sophocles long ago
Heard it on the Aegean, and it brought
Into his mind the turbid ebb and flow
Of human misery; we
Find also in the sound a thought,
Hearing it by this distant northern sea.

The Sea of Faith
Was once, too, at the full, and round earth's shore
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furl'd.
But now I only hear
Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
Retreating, to the breath
Of the night-wind, down the vast edges drear
And naked shingles of the world.

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

-- Matthew Arnold

* * *

I came across the following analysis of this poem, and I thought I
would share it:

"well i think this poem is about a certin scenario that we all face in
life, its when u look in the fridge and cant find the ketchup, u will
stare at the door for like 5 min but u cant find it. We all have
experienced this and matthew arnold summed it up for all of us. but
that is just my opinion. i like to call it the 'ketchup sindrom" it
really is a [censored], you will want it so bad and u will look and
look and look but never find it. Then the next day u will look in the
fridge for some milk and the god-damn ketchup will be laughing at u"

Actually, I don't think the ketchup syndrome really has much to do
with this poem, but I like the thought anyway.

In case you are wondering, the poem is *not* about Darwinism, as it
was written in 1851, before the publication of The Origin of Species
(1859).

Marilyn
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Jun 2007 13:47 GMT
> Dover Beach
>
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>
> Marilyn

It's about the absence of love in those who are of accursed world...

http://secondlaw.com

... but present in the brethren of the Messiah, Who is not of this
world:

"Love each other as I have loved you." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen.

The brethren of the Messiah are neither perfect nor more special...

... we are simply forgiven by GOD thereby able to love others
unconditionally:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/

Here's the way to become brethren of the Messiah:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
MarilynMann - 25 Jun 2007 19:34 GMT
> "well i think this poem is about a certin scenario that we all face in
> life, its when u look in the fridge and cant find the ketchup, u will
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Actually, I don't think the ketchup syndrome really has much to do
> with this poem, but I like the thought anyway.

The other type of ketchup syndrome, of course, is when you turn the
ketchup upside down and it doesn't come out at first and then all of a
sudden it comes out all at once and drowns your french fries . . .
Don Kirkman - 25 Jun 2007 21:30 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that MarilynMann wrote in article
<1182796484.164706.295060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>:

>> "well i think this poem is about a certin scenario that we all face in
>> life, its when u look in the fridge and cant find the ketchup, u will
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> look and look but never find it. Then the next day u will look in the
>> fridge for some milk and the god-damn ketchup will be laughing at u"

>> Actually, I don't think the ketchup syndrome really has much to do
>> with this poem, but I like the thought anyway.

>The other type of ketchup syndrome, of course, is when you turn the
>ketchup upside down and it doesn't come out at first and then all of a
>sudden it comes out all at once and drowns your french fries . . .

Shake and shake
  the ketchup bottle.
None'll come, and
  then a lot'll."
        --Richard Armour.

http://exploration.nasa.gov/articles/07jun_elastic_fluids-liftoff.html
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MarilynMann - 26 Jun 2007 12:55 GMT
Dream Song 14

Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
we ourselves flash and yearn,
and moreover my mother told me as a boy
(repeatedly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
means you have no

Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
Peoples bore me,
literature bores me, especially great literature,
Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
as bad as achilles,

Who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
and somehow a dog
has taken itself & its tail considerably away
into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
behind: me, wag.

-- John Berryman
MarilynMann - 27 Jun 2007 11:13 GMT
Among School Children

I

I walk through the long schoolroom questioning;
A kind old nun in a white hood replies;
The children learn to cipher and to sing,
To study reading-books and histories,
To cut and sew, be neat in everything
In the best modern way - the children's eyes
In momentary wonder stare upon
A sixty-year-old smiling public man.

II

I dream of a Ledaean body, bent
Above a sinking fire. a tale that she
Told of a harsh reproof, or trivial event
That changed some childish day to tragedy -
Told, and it seemed that our two natures blent
Into a sphere from youthful sympathy,
Or else, to alter Plato's parable,
Into the yolk and white of the one shell.

III

And thinking of that fit of grief or rage
I look upon one child or t'other there
And wonder if she stood so at that age -
For even daughters of the swan can share
Something of every paddler's heritage -
And had that colour upon cheek or hair,
And thereupon my heart is driven wild:
She stands before me as a living child.

IV

Her present image floats into the mind -
Did Quattrocento finger fashion it
Hollow of cheek as though it drank the wind
And took a mess of shadows for its meat?
And I though never of Ledaean kind
Had pretty plumage once - enough of that,
Better to smile on all that smile, and show
There is a comfortable kind of old scarecrow.

V

What youthful mother, a shape upon her lap
Honey of generation had betrayed,
And that must sleep, shriek, struggle to escape
As recollection or the drug decide,
Would think her Son, did she but see that shape
With sixty or more winters on its head,
A compensation for the pang of his birth,
Or the uncertainty of his setting forth?

VI

Plato thought nature but a spume that plays
Upon a ghostly paradigm of things;
Solider Aristotle played the taws
Upon the bottom of a king of kings;
World-famous golden-thighed Pythagoras
Fingered upon a fiddle-stick or strings
What a star sang and careless Muses heard:
Old clothes upon old sticks to scare a bird.

VII

Both nuns and mothers worship images,
But those the candles light are not as those
That animate a mother's reveries,
But keep a marble or a bronze repose.
And yet they too break hearts - O Presences
That passion, piety or affection knows,
And that all heavenly glory symbolise -
O self-born mockers of man's enterprise;

VIII

Labour is blossoming or dancing where
The body is not bruised to pleasure soul.
Nor beauty born out of its own despair,
Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil.
O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer,
Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole?
O body swayed to music, O brightening glance,
How can we know the dancer from the dance?

-- W.B. Yeats
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jun 2007 11:51 GMT
> Among School Children
>
[quoted text clipped - 87 lines]
>
> -- W.B. Yeats

"Do not keep these little ones from ME, for MY kingdom belongs to such
as these." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
MarilynMann - 12 Jul 2007 11:26 GMT
Mid-Term Break

I sat all morning in the college sick bay
Counting bells knelling classes to a close.
At two o'clock our neighbours drove me home.

In the porch I met my father crying
He had always taken funerals in his stride
And Big Jim Evans saying it was a hard blow.

The baby cooed and laughed and rocked the pram
When I came in, and I was embarrassed
By old men standing up to shake my hand

And tell me they were "sorry for my trouble",
Whispers informed strangers I was the eldest,
Away at school, as my mother held my hand

In hers and coughed out angry tearless sighs.
At ten o'clock the ambulance arrived
With the corpse, stanched and bandaged by the nurses.

Next morning I went up into the room. Snowdrops
And candles soothed the bedside; I saw him
For the first time in six weeks. Paler now,

Wearing a poppy bruise on his left temple,
He lay in the four foot box as in his cot.
No gaudy scars, the bumper knocked him clear.

A four foot box, a foot for every year.

--Seamus Heaney
MarilynMann - 14 Jul 2007 16:15 GMT
Sunday Morning

1
Complacencies of the peignoir, and late
Coffee and oranges in a sunny chair,
And the green freedom of a cockatoo
Upon a rug mingle to dissipate
The holy hush of ancient sacrifice.
She dreams a little, and she feels the dark
Encroachment of that old catastrophe,
As a calm darkens among water-lights.
The pungent oranges and bright, green wings
Seem things in some procession of the dead,
Winding across wide water, without sound.
The day is like wide water, without sound.
Stilled for the passing of her dreaming feet
Over the seas, to silent Palestine,
Dominion of the blood and sepulchre.

2
Why should she give her bounty to the dead?
What is divinity if it can come
Only in silent shadows and in dreams?
Shall she not find in comforts of the sun,
In pungent fruit and bright green wings, or else
In any balm or beauty of the earth,
Things to be cherished like the thought of heaven?
Divinity must live within herself:
Passions of rain, or moods in falling snow;
Grievings in loneliness, or unsubdued
Elations when the forest blooms; gusty
Emotions on wet roads on autumn nights;
All pleasures and all pains, remembering
The bough of summer and the winter branch.
These are the measure destined for her soul.

3
Jove in the clouds had his inhuman birth.
No mother suckled him, no sweet land gave
Large-mannered motions to his mythy mind.
He moved among us, as a muttering king,
Magnificent, would move among his hinds,
Until our blood, commingling, virginal,
With heaven, brought such requital to desire
The very hinds discerned it, in a star.
Shall our blood fail? Or shall it come to be
The blood of paradise? And shall the earth
Seem all of paradise that we shall know?
The sky will be much friendlier then than now,
A part of labor and a part of pain,
And next in glory to enduring love,
Not this dividing and indifferent blue.

4
She says, "I am content when wakened birds,
Before they fly, test the reality
Of misty fields, by their sweet questionings;
But when the birds are gone, and their warm fields
Return no more, where, then, is paradise?"
There is not any haunt of prophecy,
Nor any old chimera of the grave,
Neither the golden underground, nor isle
Melodious, where spirits gat them home,
Nor visionary south, nor cloudy palm
Remote on heaven's hill, that has endured
As April's green endures; or will endure
Like her remembrance of awakened birds,
Or her desire for June and evening, tipped
By the consummation of the swallow's wings.

5
She says, "But in contentment I still feel
The need of some imperishable bliss."
Death is the mother of beauty; hence from her,
Alone, shall come fulfillment to our dreams
And our desires. Although she strews the leaves
Of sure obliteration on our paths,
The path sick sorrow took, the many paths
Where triumph rang its brassy phrase, or love
Whispered a little out of tenderness,
She makes the willow shiver in the sun
For maidens who were wont to sit and gaze
Upon the grass, relinquished to their feet.
She causes boys to pile new plums and pears
On disregarded plate. The maidens taste
And stray impassioned in the littering leaves.

6
Is there no change of death in paradise?
Does ripe fruit never fall? Or do the boughs
Hang always heavy in that perfect sky,
Unchanging, yet so like our perishing earth,
With rivers like our own that seek for seas
They never find, the same receding shores
That never touch with inarticulate pang?
Why set pear upon those river-banks
Or spice the shores with odors of the plum?
Alas, that they should wear our colors there,
The silken weavings of our afternoons,
And pick the strings of our insipid lutes!
Death is the mother of beauty, mystical,
Within whose burning bosom we devise
Our earthly mothers waiting, sleeplessly.

7
Supple and turbulent, a ring of men
Shall chant in orgy on a summer morn
Their boisterous devotion to the sun,
Not as a god, but as a god might be,
Naked among them, like a savage source.
Their chant shall be a chant of paradise,
Out of their blood, returning to the sky;
And in their chant shall enter, voice by voice,
The windy lake wherein their lord delights,
The trees, like serafin, and echoing hills,
That choir among themselves long afterward.
They shall know well the heavenly fellowship
Of men that perish and of summer morn.
And whence they came and whither they shall go
The dew upon their feel shall manifest.

8
She hears, upon that water without sound,
A voice that cries, "The tomb in Palestine
Is not the porch of spirits lingering.
It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay."
We live in an old chaos of the sun,
Or old dependency of day and night,
Or island solitude, unsponsored, free,
Of that wide water, inescapable.
Deer walk upon our mountains, and the quail
Whistle about us their spontaneous cries;
Sweet berries ripen in the wilderness;
And, in the isolation of the sky,
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings.

-- Wallace Stevens
MarilynMann - 15 Jul 2007 17:14 GMT
Fern Hill

Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
The night above the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.

And as I was green and carefree, famous among the barns
About the happy yard and singing as the farm was home,
In the sun that is young once only,
Time let me play and be
Golden in the mercy of his means,
And green and golden I was huntsman and herdsman, the calves
Sang to my horn, the foxes on the hills barked clear and cold,
And the sabbath rang slowly
In the pebbles of the holy streams.

All the sun long it was running, it was lovely, the hay
Fields high as the house, the tunes from the chimneys, it was air
And playing, lovely and watery
And fire green as grass.
And nightly under the simple stars
As I rode to sleep the owls were bearing the farm away,
All the moon long I heard, blessed among stables, the nightjars
Flying with the ricks, and the horses
Flashing into the dark.

And then to awake, and the farm, like a wanderer white
With the dew, come back, the cock on his shoulder: it was all
Shining, it was Adam and maiden,
The sky gathered again
And the sun grew round that very day.
So it must have been after the birth of the simple light
In the first, spinning place, the spellbound horses walking warm
Out of the whinnying green stable
On to the fields of praise.

And honoured among foxes and pheasants by the gay house
Under the new made clouds and happy as the heart was long,
In the sun born over and over,
I ran my heedless ways,
My wishes raced through the house high hay
And nothing I cared, at my sky blue trades, that time allows
In all his tuneful turning so few and such morning songs
Before the children green and golden
Follow him out of grace.

Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me
Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand,
In the moon that is always rising,
Nor that riding to sleep
I should hear him fly with the high fields
And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land.
Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
Time held me green and dying
Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

-- Dylan Thomas
Cary Kittrell - 16 Jul 2007 18:21 GMT
> Fern Hill
>
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> -- Dylan Thomas

This one dazzled me the first time I read it, decades
ago, and it hasn't lost anything over the years.

-- cary
MarilynMann - 17 Jul 2007 01:52 GMT
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings

The free bird leaps
on the back of the wind
and floats downstream
till the current ends
and dips his wings
in the orange sun rays
and dares to claim the sky.

But a bird that stalks
down his narrow cage
can seldom see through
his bars of rage
his wings are clipped and
his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.

The caged bird sings
with fearful trill
of the things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill for the caged bird
sings of freedom

The free bird thinks of another breeze
and the trade winds soft through the sighing trees
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn-bright lawn
and he names the sky his own.

But a caged bird stands on the grave of dreams
his shadow shouts on a nightmare scream
his wings are clipped and his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing

The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.

-- Maya Angelou
MarilynMann - 18 Jul 2007 02:51 GMT
PENELOPE'S SONG

Little soul, little perpetually undressed one,
do now as I bid you, climb
the shelf-like branches of the spruce tree;
wait at the top, attentive, like
a sentry or look-out. He will be home soon;
it behooves you to be
generous. You have not been completely
perfect either; with your troublesome body
you have done things you shouldn't
discuss in poems. Therefore
call to him over the open water, over the bright water
with your dark song, with your grasping,
unnatural song--passionate,
like Maria Callas. Who
wouldn't want you? Whose most demonic appetite
could you possibly fail to answer? Soon
he will return from wherever he goes in the meantime,
suntanned from his time away, wanting
his grilled chicken. Ah, you must greet him,
you must shake the boughs of the tree
to get his attention,
but carefully, carefully, lest
his beautiful face be marred

-- Louise Gluck
MarilynMann - 18 Jul 2007 12:41 GMT
To his Coy Mistress

Had we but world enough, and time,
This coyness, lady, were no crime.
We would sit down and think which way
To walk, and pass our long love's day;
Thou by the Indian Ganges' side
Shouldst rubies find; I by the tide
Of Humber would complain. I would
Love you ten years before the Flood;
And you should, if you please, refuse
Till the conversion of the Jews.
My vegetable love should grow
Vaster than empires, and more slow.
An hundred years should go to praise
Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;
Two hundred to adore each breast,
But thirty thousand to the rest;
An age at least to every part,
And the last age should show your heart.
For, lady, you deserve this state,
Nor would I love at lower rate.

But at my back I always hear
Time's winged chariot hurrying near;
And yonder all before us lie
Deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found,
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long preserv'd virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust.
The grave's a fine and private place,
But none I think do there embrace.

Now therefore, while the youthful hue
Sits on thy skin like morning dew,
And while thy willing soul transpires
At every pore with instant fires,
Now let us sport us while we may;
And now, like am'rous birds of prey,
Rather at once our time devour,
Than languish in his slow-chapp'd power.
Let us roll all our strength, and all
Our sweetness, up into one ball;
And tear our pleasures with rough strife
Thorough the iron gates of life.
Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run.

-- Andrew Marvell (1621-1678)
Cary Kittrell - 18 Jul 2007 17:42 GMT
> To his Coy Mistress
>
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> -- Andrew Marvell (1621-1678)

"I'll be in my bunk".

           -- Jayne Cobb, "Firefly"
           
           
           
-- cary
MarilynMann - 19 Jul 2007 15:24 GMT
Elegy for Jane
(My student, thrown by a horse)

I remember the neckcurls, limp and damp as tendrils;
And her quick look, a sidelong pickerel smile;
And how, once startled into talk, the light syllables leaped for her,
And she balanced in the delight of her thought,

A wren, happy, tail into the wind,
Her song trembling the twigs and small branches.
The shade sang with her;
The leaves, their whispers turned to kissing,
And the mould sang in the bleached valleys under the rose.

Oh, when she was sad, she cast herself down into such a pure depth,
Even a father could not find her:
Scraping her cheek against straw,
Stirring the clearest water.

My sparrow, you are not here,
Waiting like a fern, making a spiney shadow.
The sides of wet stones cannot console me,
Nor the moss, wound with the last light.

If only I could nudge you from this sleep,
My maimed darling, my skittery pigeon.
Over this damp grave I speak the words of my love:
I, with no rights in this matter,
Neither father nor lover.

-- Theodore Roethke
MarilynMann - 20 Jul 2007 11:21 GMT
Sonnet 29 "When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes"

When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
  I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf Heaven with my bootless cries,
  And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
  Featur'd like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
  With what I most enjoy contented least:
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
  Haply I think on thee,--and then my state
(Like to the lark at break of day arising
  From sullen earth) sings hymns at heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
  That then I scorn to change my state with kings'.

-- William Shakespeare
MarilynMann - 22 Jul 2007 01:02 GMT
Drinking Alone Under the Moon

Among the flowers, a single jug of wine;
I drink alone. No one close to me.
I raise my cup, invite the bright moon;
facing my shadow, together we make three.
The moon doesn't know how to drink;
and my shadow can only follow my body.
But for a time I make moon and shadow my companions;
taking one's pleasure must last until spring.
I sing--the moon wavers back and forth.
I dance--my shadow flickers and scatters.
When I'm sober we take pleasure together.
When I'm drunk, we each go our own ways.
I make an oath to journey forever free of feelings,
making an appointment with them to meet in the Milky Way afar.

-- Li Bo (701-762)
translated by Paul Rouzer

Paul Rouzer
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Jun 2007 11:28 GMT
> Dream Song 14
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> -- John Berryman

Within GOD's perfect and infinite will, there is no boredom.

Such is the abundant life that LORD Jesus Christ gives to HIS
brethren.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
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Cardiologist
Cary Kittrell - 25 Jun 2007 18:34 GMT
> THE RIVER-MERCHANT'S WIFE: A LETTER*
> Li Bo, trans. Ezra Pound
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> *Original title: Changgan xing

Ah, I remember this one.

I really like Pound, although I started getting
lost around Canto [insert your own number here]

-- cary
MarilynMann - 25 Jun 2007 19:28 GMT
> Ah, I remember this one.
>
> I really like Pound, although I started getting
> lost around Canto [insert your own number here]

Some say this "translation" is really more of an adaptation, but it is
hard to argue with the result.

Marilyn
Cary Kittrell - 25 Jun 2007 20:15 GMT
> > Ah, I remember this one.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Some say this "translation" is really more of an adaptation, but it is
> hard to argue with the result.

Well, Eliot said that "good artists borrow; great artists steal".

Of course, I've seen that one attributed to Picasso and
Stravinsky, so maybe ol' Tommy the S. stole that one too.

-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo - 22 Jun 2007 17:21 GMT
> If I were poor, I would not be as hungry.

I get it. He's going broke...

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Jun 2007 19:14 GMT
> The Waking
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Theodore Roethke

Great Nature is an idol for many that are here.
The Ground remains accursed because of sin.
Without GOD's blessing there is only fear.
The atheist has no clue the trouble he's in.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Cardiologist
William Wagner - 27 Jul 2007 16:00 GMT
From The Scout Report, Copyright Internet Scout Project 1994-2007.
http://scout.wisc.edu/

11. Library of Congress: Poetry [pdf, Real Player]
http://www.loc.gov/poetry/

On a recent visit to the Library of Congress: Poetry website, the first
line of a poem by William Stafford appeared on the top of the page. The
poem in question was ?At the Un-National Monument Along the Canadian
Border?, and it just one of many poems that can be found on this simple
delightful site.
Amidst this cornucopia of poems, visitors can also learn about the
current poet laureate and take in a few webcasts from the ?Poet Vision?
series. It is an august group indeed, and some of the programs include
those that profile Rita Dove, Louise Gluck, and Stanley Kunitz.

Visitors can also look over a list of poetry news and events and breeze
on through the related resources offered by the Library of Congress.
Educators and students will want to pay close attention to the ?For
Teachers & Students? area, where they can find resources designed to
bring poetry into the classroom in an experiential fashion. [KMG]

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MarilynMann - 28 Jul 2007 23:35 GMT
THE LAKE ISLE OF INNISFREE

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made;
Nine bean rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.
And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a-glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.

I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear the water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements gray,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.

-- William Butler Yeats
liaM - 29 Jul 2007 10:16 GMT
> THE LAKE ISLE OF INNISFREE
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> -- William Butler Yeats

Thanks Marilyn for the nice change from the ranting of kooks ;)
For poetry I always read our poet in residence (W.W.)
MarilynMann - 29 Jul 2007 14:26 GMT
DO NOT GO GENTLE INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

-- Dylan Thomas
liaM - 29 Jul 2007 14:59 GMT
> DO NOT GO GENTLE INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> -- Dylan Thomas

But if "rage" means limping and wheezing,
taking statins and painkillers, I say lemme at it fast
and damn the poets and their fathers !
(Anyway, that's how Dylan Thomas went, drunk at
40+ years, fell out of a window ;)
MarilynMann - 29 Jul 2007 15:45 GMT
> (Anyway, that's how Dylan Thomas went, drunk at
> 40+ years, fell out of a window ;)- Hide quoted text -

Actually, he died in a hospital.  He *was* an alcoholic and had been
drinking heavily just before collapsing and going into a coma.  I
don't know that it is known for sure what the proximate cause of death
was, though.  One theory is that he was given an overly high dose of a
sedative.  I've also read that pneumonia, liver disease, and pressure
on the brain were involved.

Marilyn
MarilynMann - 29 Jul 2007 18:24 GMT
He was also a notorious philanderer, thus his wife's remark when she
arrived at the hospital (see below).

On his final trip to New York, Dylan Thomas checked into the Chelsea
Hotel. He was already referring to Caitlin as 'my widow'.

While his cumulative intake of alcohol undoubtedly irreparably damaged
his health, it's been disputed that it was the actual cause of his
death. There is a growing body of evidence to suggest his death was
actually accelerated by medical negligence.

When Dylan Thomas returned to the Chelsea Hotel and boasted of
drinking "18 straight whiskies", he was in all probability
exaggerating. Boasting about his alcoholic intake was nothing new.
However, his sustained drinking undoubtedly caused him a number of
health complications.

Dylan slept off the whisky, and slept until the next morning - 4
November. He awoke complaining of breathing difficulties, and went
with Elizabeth Reitell to a bar. After two beers he returned to the
Chelsea Hotel, still complaining of illness, and his doctor Milton
Feltenstein was called for.

The doctor administered some ACTH, a steroid, before leaving, but
Thomas was still in pain from gastritis and gout. Feltenstein
returned, and gave the poet more medication.

Thomas slept again, but it was fitful and he complained of visions and
delirium. Feltenstein was summoned for a third time and gave Thomas a
sedative.

According to hospital records, the sedative was half a grain of
morphine sulphate; an abnormally high dose, and potentially lethal
given the poet's breathing complications. It was also extremely
unusual to administer such a drug to alleviate his gastritis and gout.

Feltenstein again left the hotel, leaving Thomas with Reitell. She was
joined by a painter, Jack Heliker, who observed the poet speaking of
abstract hallucinations. According to Heliker, Dylan Thomas' final
words were: "After 39 years, this is all I've done".

After about an hour, Dylan fell unconscious. An ambulance arrived, and
took him to St Vincent's Hospital. The medical notes state he arrived
in a coma at 1.58am, and that the "impression upon admission was acute
alcoholic encephalopathy damage to the brain by alcohol, for which the
patient was treated without response".

A telegram was sent to Caitlin in Laugharne on 5 November, telling her
Dylan had been hospitalised. The next day she flew to America. By this
time, a tracheotomy had been performed on the writer, who remained in
a coma, and rumours and accusations flew among the assembled friends
and acquaintances. Caitlin arrived and was taken by police escort to
the hospital. Her first words were reportedly "Is the bloody man dead
yet?"

Dylan Thomas died at noon on Monday 9 November 1953. The post mortem
gave the primary cause of death as pneumonia, with pressure on the
brain and a fatty liver given as contributing factors. He is buried at
St Martin's Church in Laugharne.

*  *  *

Half a grain of morphine sulphate?  I take it that's a lot?

Marilyn
MarilynMann - 30 Jul 2007 12:00 GMT
Fire and Ice

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
>From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

-- Robert Frost
MarilynMann - 31 Jul 2007 17:24 GMT
Danse Russe

If when my wife is sleeping
and the baby and Kathleen
are sleeping
and the sun is a flame-white disc
in silken mists
above shining trees,-
if I in my north room
dance naked, grotesquely
before my mirror
waving my shirt round my head
and singing softly to myself:
"I am lonely, lonely,
I was born to be lonely,
I am best so!"
If I admire my arms, my face,
my shoulders, flanks, buttocks
against the yellow drawn shades,-

Who shall say I am not
the happy genius of my household?

-- William Carlos Williams
liaM - 31 Jul 2007 21:17 GMT
> Danse Russe
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> -- William Carlos Williams

And William Carlos Williams was a doctor of medecine,
so what do they have against Dr. Chung !?
Cary Kittrell - 01 Aug 2007 01:45 GMT
> > Danse Russe
> >
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> And William Carlos Williams was a doctor of medecine,
> so what do they have against Dr. Chung !?

Depends.  Does he recognize the importance of the wheelbarrow,
or does he not?

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Aug 2007 02:13 GMT
> > > Danse Russe
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Depends.  Does he recognize the importance of the wheelbarrow,
> or does he not?

Logically, the answer would simply be "yes."  :-)

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

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Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Cardiologist
MarilynMann - 01 Aug 2007 21:02 GMT
so much depends
upon
a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

-- William Carlos Williams
liaM - 01 Aug 2007 21:34 GMT
> so much depends
> upon
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -- William Carlos Williams

ah/.... !  And I thought you were talking about the
wheelbarrow left by an unknown medieval craftsman on the roof of
Notre Dame Cathedral.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Aug 2007 23:30 GMT
> > so much depends
> > upon
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wheelbarrow left by an unknown medieval craftsman on the roof of
> Notre Dame Cathedral.

Such a red wheelbarrow will be used to cart satan's sockpuppets
(demons) to the edge of that lake of fire that awaits to consume
them.  The Craftsman is LORD Jesus Christ, Himself.  The sockpuppets
resemble white chickens by sight, sound, and smell :-)

Laus Deo !

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Cary Kittrell - 02 Aug 2007 00:16 GMT
> > > so much depends
> > > upon
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> them.  The Craftsman is LORD Jesus Christ, Himself.  The sockpuppets
> resemble white chickens by sight, sound, and smell :-)

And to think they say first-year English students try
to read too much into the material...

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Aug 2007 20:01 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
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> And to think they say first-year English students try
> to read too much into the material...

Meanwhile, the round-up continues...

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

Hell is GOD's red wheelbarrow.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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MarilynMann - 03 Aug 2007 14:24 GMT
Composed Upon Westminster Bridge, September 3, 1802

Earth has not anything to show more fair:
Dull would he be of soul who could pass by
A sight so touching in its majesty:
This City now doth, like a garment, wear
The beauty of the morning; silent, bare,
Ships, towers, domes, theatres, and temples lie
Open unto the fields, and to the sky;
All bright and glittering in the smokeless air.
Never did sun more beautifully steep
In his first splendour, valley, rock, or hill;
Ne'er saw I, never felt, a calm so deep!
The river glideth at his own sweet will:
Dear God! the very houses seem asleep;
And all that mighty heart is lying still!

-- William Wordsworth
William Wagner - 03 Aug 2007 14:33 GMT
Pu suan tzu

A fragment moon hangs from the bare tung tree
The water clock runs out, all is still
Who sees the dim figure come and go alone
Misty, indistinct, the shadow of a lone wild goose?

Startled, she gets up, looks back
With longing no one sees
And will not settle on any of the cold branches
Along the chill and lonely beach

by Su Tung-po

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> Pu suan tzu
>
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Nice, thanks.
MarilynMann - 04 Aug 2007 14:37 GMT
A Storm in April

Some winters, taking leave,
Deal us a last, hard blow,
Salting the ground like Carthage
Before they will go.

But the bright, milling snow
Which throngs the air today-
It is a way of leaving
So as to stay.

The light flakes do not weigh
The willows down, but sift
Through the white catkins, loose
As petal-drift

Or in an up-draft lift
And glitter at a height,
Dazzling as summer's leaf-stir
Chinked with light.

This storm, if I am right,
Will not be wholly over
Till green fields, here and there,
Turn white with clover,

And through chill air the puffs of milkweed hover.

-- Richard Wilbur
MarilynMann - 05 Aug 2007 14:26 GMT
My First Memory (of Librarians)

This is my first memory:
A big room with heavy wooden tables that sat on a creaky
      wood floor
A line of green shades-bankers' lights-down the center
Heavy oak chairs that were too low or maybe I was simply
      too short
             For me to sit in and read
So my first book was always big

In the foyer up four steps a semi-circle desk presided
To the left side the card catalogue
On the right newspapers draped over what looked like
      a quilt rack
Magazines face out from the wall

The welcoming smile of my librarian
The anticipation in my heart
All those books-another world-just waiting
At my fingertips.

-- Nikki Giovanni
MarilynMann - 06 Aug 2007 23:23 GMT
JABBERWOCKY

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
 Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
 And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
 The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
 The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
 Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
 And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
 The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
 And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
 He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
 Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
 He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
 Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
 And the mome raths outgrabe.

-- Lewis Carroll
(from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)
MarilynMann - 11 Aug 2007 20:56 GMT
I Think Continually Of Those Who Were Truly Great

I think continually of those who were truly great.
Who, from the womb, remembered the soul's history
Through corridors of light where the hours are suns
Endless and singing. Whose lovely ambition
Was that their lips, still touched with fire,
Should tell of the Spirit clothed from head to foot in song.
And who hoarded from the Spring branches
The desires falling across their bodies like blossoms.

What is precious is never to forget
The essential delight of the blood drawn from ageless springs
Breaking through rocks in worlds before our earth.
Never to deny its pleasure in the morning simple light
Nor its grave evening demand for love.
Never to allow gradually the traffic to smother
With noise and fog the flowering of the spirit.

Near the snow, near the sun, in the highest fields
See how these names are feted by the waving grass
And by the streamers of white cloud
And whispers of wind in the listening sky.
The names of those who in their lives fought for life
Who wore at their hearts the fire's center.
Born of the sun they traveled a short while towards the sun,
And left the vivid air signed with their honor.

-- Stephen Spender
William Wagner - 11 Aug 2007 21:31 GMT
Gary Snyder

Wonderful rainy day perusal.

http://www.heureka.clara.net/art/snyder.htm

Enjoy!

Bill

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MarilynMann - 12 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT
A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London

Never until the mankind making
Bird beast and flower
Fathering and all humbling darkness
Tells with silence the last light breaking
And the still hour
Is come of the sea tumbling in harness

And I must enter again the round
Zion of the water bead
And the synagogue of the ear of corn
Shall I let pray the shadow of a sound
Or sow my salt seed
In the least valley of sackcloth to mourn

The majesty and burning of the child's death.
I shall not murder
The mankind of her going with a grave truth
Nor blaspheme down the stations of the breath
With any further
Elegy of innocence and youth.

Deep with the first dead lies London's daughter,
Robed in the long friends,
The grains beyond age, the dark veins of her mother,
Secret by the unmourning water
Of the riding Thames.
After the first death, there is no other.

-- Dylan Thomas
MarilynMann - 13 Aug 2007 16:15 GMT
Gene Weingarten's column yesterday:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/08/AR2007080802035.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Aug 2007 01:02 GMT
> A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London
>
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>
> -- Dylan Thomas

"Do not keep these little ones from ME for MY kingdom belongs to such
as these." -- Messiah Jesus Christ

Amen.

"And HE wept."

HE did not weep for the deceased but instead for those of us who
remain having survived loved ones.  We know this because HE
subsequently brought the deceased back by telling him to wake up by
name !!!

Laus Deo ! ! !

Marana tha

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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MarilynMann - 14 Aug 2007 14:52 GMT
anyone lived in a pretty how town
(with up so floating many bells down)
spring summer autumn winter
he sang his didn't he danced his did

Women and men (both little and small)
cared for anyone not at all
they sowed their isn't they reaped their same
sun moon stars rain

children guessed (but only a few
and down they forgot as up they grew
autumn winter spring summer)
that noone loved him more by more

when by now and tree by leaf
she laughed his joy she cried his grief
bird by snow and stir by still
anyone's any was all to her

someones married their everyones
laughed their cryings and did their dance
(sleep wake hope and then) they
said their nevers they slept their dream

stars rain sun moon
(and only the snow can begin to explain
how children are apt to forget to remember
with up so floating many bells down)

one day anyone died i guess
(and noone stooped to kiss his face)
busy folk buried them side by side
little by little and was by was

all by all and deep by deep
and more by more they dream their sleep
noone and anyone earth by april
wish by spirit and if by yes.

Women and men (both dong and ding)
summer autumn winter spring
reaped their sowing and went their came
sun moon stars rain

-- e.e. cummings
William Wagner - 14 Aug 2007 15:12 GMT
> anyone lived in a pretty how town
> (with up so floating many bells down)
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>
> -- e.e. cummings

Grew up sorta with e.e. cummings.

Bill

http://conduit.org/   worth a gander !

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> > anyone lived in a pretty how town
> > (with up so floating many bells down)
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>
> Bill

My personal favorite:


my father moved through dooms of love
e.e. cummings

my father moved through dooms of love
through sames of am through haves of give,
singing each morning out of each night
my father moved through depths of height

this motionless forgetful where
turned at his glance to shining here;
that if(so timid air is firm)
under his eyes would stir and squirm

newly as from unburied which
floats the first who,his april touch
drove sleeping selves to swarm their fates
woke dreamers to their ghostly roots

and should some why completely weep
my father's fingers brought her sleep:
vainly no smallest voice might cry
for he could feel the mountains grow.

Lifting the valleys of the sea
my father moved through griefs of joy;
praising a forehead he called the moon
singing desire into begin

joy was his song and joy so pure
a heart of star by him could steer
and pure so now and now so yes
the wrists of twilight would rejoice

keen as midsummer's keen beyond
conceiving mind of sun will stand,
so strictly(over utmost him
so hugely)stood my father's dream

his flesh was flesh his blood was blood:
no hungry man but wished him food;
no cripple wouldn't creep one mile
uphill to only see him smile.

Scorning the pomp of must and shall
my father moved through dooms of feel;
his anger was as right as rain
his pity was as green as grain

septembering arms of year extend
less humbly wealth to foe and friend
than he to foolish and to wise
offered immeasurable is

proudly and(by octobering flame
beckoned)as earth will downward climb,
so naked for immortal work
his shoulders marched against the dark

his sorrow was as true as bread:
no liar looked him in the head;
if every friend became his foe
he'd laugh and build a world with snow.

My father moved through theys of we,
singing each new leaf out of each tree
(and every child was sure that spring
danced when she heard my father sing)

then let men kill which cannot share,
let blood and flesh be mud and mire,
scheming imagine,passion willed,
freedom a drug that's bought and sold

giving to steal and cruel kind,
a heart to fear,to doubt a mind,
to differ a disease of same,
conform the pinnacle of am

though dull were all we taste as bright,
bitter all utterly things sweet,
maggoty minus and dumb death
all we inherit,all bequeath

and nothing quite so least as truth
- i say though hate were why man breathe -
because my father lived his soul
love is the whole and more than all
MarilynMann - 15 Aug 2007 14:58 GMT
The Negro Speaks of Rivers

I've known rivers:
I've known rivers ancient as the world and older than the
    flow of human blood in human veins.

My soul has grown deep like the rivers.

I bathed in the Euphrates when dawns were young.
I built my hut near the Congo and it lulled me to sleep.
I looked upon the Nile and raised the pyramids above it.
I heard the singing of the Mississippi when Abe Lincoln
    went down to New Orleans, and I've seen its muddy
    bosom turn all golden in the sunset.

I've known rivers:
Ancient, dusky rivers.

My soul has grown deep like the rivers.

-- Langston Hughes
MarilynMann - 16 Aug 2007 11:16 GMT
As in a Dream

Last night in the light rain as rough winds blew,
My drunken sleep left me no merrier.
I question one that raised the curtain, who
Replies: "The wild quince trees - are as they were."
            But no, but no!
Their rose is waning, and their green leaves grow.

-- Li Ching Chao (1084-1151)
MarilynMann - 17 Aug 2007 20:37 GMT
THE POOL PLAYERS.
SEVEN AT THE GOLDEN SHOVEL.

We real cool. We
Left school. We

Lurk late. We
Strike straight. We

Sing sin. We
Thin gin. We

Jazz June. We
Die soon.

-- Gwendolyn Brooks
William Wagner - 17 Aug 2007 20:45 GMT
> THE POOL PLAYERS.
> SEVEN AT THE GOLDEN SHOVEL.
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>
> -- Gwendolyn Brooks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_poem

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> THE POOL PLAYERS.
> SEVEN AT THE GOLDEN SHOVEL.
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>
> -- Gwendolyn Brooks

Whoa!  That's different.

I like the way she does the upbeat at the end of each
line.

Barely heard of her before this, off to find more.

-- cary