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Father Haskell - 14 Feb 2007 01:04 GMT
You really believe the sh.t will hit the fan come March 3?

Put up some green to prove it, or you're a liar.
Melchizedek - 14 Feb 2007 03:21 GMT
> You really believe the sh.t will hit the fan come March 3?
>
> Put up some green to prove it, or you're a liar.

  Sorry, I've missed something. What is going to happen?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Feb 2007 03:37 GMT
> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>
> > You really believe the sh.t will hit the fan come March 3?

Our astronomers are predicting a total lunar eclipse for March 3rd,
2007.

The prophecy of Revelation 6:12 would be fulfilled when this
astronomical event occurs.

How soon after this until the prophecy of Revelation 6:13 is realized
is known only to GOD the Father.

> > Put up some green to prove it, or you're a liar.

It is time and not money that will prove the prophecies of the
Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully in the interim.

>    Sorry, I've missed something. What is going to happen?

A total lunar eclipse in the middle of the night sky for the seven
ancient churches of Christ so that "the whole moon will turn blood
red" for those who will be watching:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1765ee083ea5e165?

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Father Haskell - 14 Feb 2007 04:25 GMT
On Feb 13, 10:37 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Father Haskell - 14 Feb 2007 04:28 GMT
On Feb 13, 10:37 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> It is time and not money that will prove the prophecies of the
> Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.

No more world, no more need for money.

Unless you ***really*** don't think it's going to end...

> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully in the interim.

You misspelt "continue lying."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Feb 2007 10:42 GMT
convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> No more world, no more need for money.

It will still be time and not money that will yield the proof that
indeed the vision given to Apostle John while exiled on Patmos as
written in chapter 6 of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ turns to
be one of our recent past, our ongoing present, and immediate future.

> Unless you ***really*** don't think it's going to end...

I know that it is not a matter of if but one of when.

> > It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully in the interim.
>
> You misspelt "continue lying."

The spelling from me has been fine.

Bottomline: You remain untruthful.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May you have a blessed St. Valentine's day as we celebrate the love
that resides in the hearts of our souls, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
love unconditionally.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Al - 14 Feb 2007 13:46 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, Annoying a.shole, wrote:

> Bottomline: You remain untruthful.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

And this from the a.shole who maintains that he does not judge anyone.
And now we'll
hear his verbal gymnastics claiming he is not judging, only telling the
truth. More bullshit
from the irrepressible Chunky.  Time to f.ck off, Chunk.
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 14 Feb 2007 16:17 GMT
"> > Our astronomers are predicting a total lunar eclipse for March 3rd,
> > 2007.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > How soon after this until the prophecy of Revelation 6:13 is realized
> > is known only to GOD the Father."

Sorry, you can find no escape in the above, no backdoor by which to
wiggle out of your predictions.  All of the events you have mentioned
are of one series of events.  It says in 6:12 "when the 6th seal is
opened" not that there are intervals between the events listed after the
"when"..  If you are going to try that tactic, then we don't know how
long after the first item the second happens and we might be waiting for
all the rest also.  All of which is silly speculation of course because
any of those events have happend multiple times in all of history and in
that order in that area.  You do not know which is *THE* event of these
common events to consider.  "Chi" "discernment" flops again.  For that
matter when has it ever been validated?  What vanity to think the false
doctrine of "chi" such as new wine in old skins can ever be fruitful?
Father Haskell - 14 Feb 2007 20:31 GMT
On Feb 14, 5:42 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Bottomline: You remain untruthful.

Bottom line:  You're unwilling to back yourself up even
when you have nothing to lose.

You're a liar.

> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that resides in the hearts of our souls, dear neighbor Haskell whom I
> love unconditionally.

Chung has cooties.

Ick.
Mistylien - 15 Feb 2007 10:13 GMT
> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> > Our astronomers are predicting a total lunar eclipse for March 3rd,
>> > 2007.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> written in chapter 6 of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ turns to
> be one of our recent past, our ongoing present, and immediate future.

If we annalize that chapter we will notice that that first Horseman
has something in his had that looks like a "Bow"
It is this BOW that tells us exactly who it is.

(Does the popes have anything that looks like a bow in their hand
when they go parading arond in their fortresses?

>> Unless you ***really*** don't think it's going to end...
>
> I know that it is not a matter of if but one of when.

From 95 AD to today it is about 1900 years of good time for
a lot of the Bible prophesies to have been  fulfilled.

The Millerites did what you are doing because they too did
not trust the Bible to interpret itself for them,
But they did not have the newer Versions to cross examine
what is  translated in the KJV version of the Bible.

Today they are called the SDA.
and it is all because of the glitch found in Daniel of the KJV
version of the Bible.  Dan 8:14.
More as I find room to interject it as we go along.

M,

>> > It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully in the interim.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Kutchie - 15 Feb 2007 11:43 GMT
> > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> has something in his had that looks like a "Bow"
> It is this BOW that tells us exactly who it is.

Sir Robin Day is the first horseman?
Smiler - 16 Feb 2007 02:57 GMT
>> > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Sir Robin Day is the first horseman?

ROTFLMAO
The thought of Sir Robin on a horse......

But nah. It's chunky himself, on the fiddle as usual.

Smiler,
The godless one
Whew_NotYuppie - 14 Feb 2007 14:23 GMT
> On Feb 13, 10:37 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You misspelt "continue lying."

Are you dating Miss Pelt? LOL
Mistylien - 14 Feb 2007 08:23 GMT
>> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> The prophecy of Revelation 6:12 would be fulfilled when this
> astronomical event occurs.

Don't hold your breath.

look up some of those events in History.

Dark day      May 19,1798

Stars falling     November 13,1833

the big earth quake   Nov 1, 1755

These events were real close to the  end of "THE GREAT TRIBULATION"

M,

> How soon after this until the prophecy of Revelation 6:13 is realized
> is known only to GOD the Father.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Feb 2007 19:29 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Don't hold your breath.

Watchpersons don't hold their breaths but rather simply use their
breath to inform others of what they are seeing.

> look up some of those events in History.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> These events were real close to the  end of "THE GREAT TRIBULATION"

The "great tribulation" of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ would
have had to have first started in order for it to have ended as you
seem to believe.

There has not ever been a time like now with events matching
temporally with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him
as described in chapter 6 of the Revelation of our LORD.

The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
be the will of LORD Almight GOD.

"These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." --
Elder referring to those of HIS brethren emerging from "the great day"
of GOD's wrath (Revelation 7:14)  that day of the wrath of the Lamb
(Revelation 6:16).

May the hearts of our souls be filled with love on this St.
Valentine's day, dear brother Mistylein whom I love unconditionally.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 14 Feb 2007 22:59 GMT
"The "great tribulation" of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ would
have had to have first started in order for it to have ended as you seem
to believe.

There has not ever been a time like now with events matching temporally
with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him as described
in chapter 6 of the Revelation of our LORD.

The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
be the will of LORD Almight GOD."

Ah, note the backpeddling of the last sentence, the "chi" force wobbles
and the "discernment" fades in and out, if it ever existed; not.  As for
the times, there have been in past much worse times in many many aspects
then happen now.  The "temperal" events have happened many times before
also.  Some scholars think that the tribulation has come and gone, about
1900 years ago and referred to the persecution of nero, whose name
numerically is 666 by the way.

We have a judgement already based onthe the measure in 1 John, we are
about to be able to make another using a different measure.  It is my
choice to continue to speak truth to disorder and failed "chi
discernment", but when ever has it ever been correct?

Here is a prediction that is guarenteed to be 100 percent true and to
happen.  No one will ever be successful in doing such as above, we have
the clear statement of our Lord, "no man knows the ...".  I don't even
have to hatch a wispy million dollar prize for that.
Fatwa Dakkash - 15 Feb 2007 03:02 GMT
>The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
>be the will of LORD Almight GOD.

Yeah, and pigs MAY fly, if that be the will of God.

Way to go out on a limb there, Chungles.  Got any more enlightening
tautologies?
Fatwa Dakkash - 15 Feb 2007 05:01 GMT
[...]
>The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
>be the will of LORD Almight GOD.

Geez, Andy, you're going to make the transmission drop totally out of
the vehicle if you keep shifting from fifth gear straight to reverse
like that.
Pastor Kutchie - 15 Feb 2007 08:50 GMT
> [...]
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the vehicle if you keep shifting from fifth gear straight to reverse
> like that.

Earthquack does this every time as the deadline approaches. His
nickname is well deserved after last year, when he confidently
predicted a global earthquake, and then pretended he'd been calling it
an "advisory" all along.
Mistylien - 15 Feb 2007 09:58 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> have had to have first started in order for it to have ended as you
> seem to believe.

2 Thess 2;3
3Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come)
until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the
man doomed to destruction.

When did that man reveal "Himself"?
Who was the first person to sit himself on the Throne of Rome
after Rome fell?
When was the first Person to sit on that throne and declair Himself
the papa?  Big cheeze   or the first throned Pope.

Answer  538 AD
Did that office ever receive a deadly Prophesied Wound.

Answer;  yes in 1798  when Napoleon  had his General arrest the
pope of that day.
Wow does that look like  1260  days as prophesied in many different
places in Prophecy?
Yes it does and if you studied prophecy  you would know  a prophetic
day in prophecy is one literal year.
See Numbers 14:34
and
Ezekiel 4:4-6
Where God give us the key not less then three times so we know
it and have no excuse that we were not told this information.

However it was not given again,  so it is up to the wise  to know
how  to use it and when to use it.

>There has not ever been a time like now with events matching
> temporally with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him
> as described in chapter 6 of the Revelation of our LORD.

John was given the Prophesies in or about 95 AD now
all we have to do is go back in History and make the timeline to
see when, what happened that may fulfill the prophesies and stop
double guessing them.

> The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
> be the will of LORD Almight GOD.

Wake up Oh Sleeper.  it may be a  bit later then you think.

> "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
> washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." --
> Elder referring to those of HIS brethren emerging from "the great day"
> of GOD's wrath (Revelation 7:14)  that day of the wrath of the Lamb
> (Revelation 6:16).

You may start to count them off as you find those that were evangelizing
from Martin Luther to today. during the Great evangelistic period
of History.

> May the hearts of our souls be filled with love on this St.
> Valentine's day, dear brother Mistylein whom I love unconditionally.

Thank you for your Declaration of LOVE.

By the  Grace of Our Lord   what I say above is most true from a Bible
stand point.

BE blessed in His Great Love as well.

M,

> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Feb 2007 11:53 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> When did that man reveal "Himself"?

"The man of lawlessness" will be revealed here and now not by himself
but by the Holy Spirit.

>  Who was the first person to sit himself on the Throne of Rome
> after Rome fell?

No one politician is "the man of lawlessness."

> When was the first Person to sit on that throne and declair Himself
> the papa?  Big cheeze   or the first throned Pope.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> However it was not given again,  so it is up to the wise  to know
> how  to use it and when to use it.

"The man of lawlessness" is not the pope of the Catholic Church.

> > There has not ever been a time like now with events matching
> > temporally with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> see when, what happened that may fulfill the prophesies and stop
> double guessing them.

In the Holy Spirit, there is no guessing... only knowing.

> > The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
> > be the will of LORD Almighty GOD.
>
> Wake up Oh Sleeper.  it may be a  bit later then you think.

In the Holy Spirit, there is only wakefulness and no sleepiness.

> > "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
> > washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." --
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>  from Martin Luther to today. during the Great evangelistic period
> of History.

The latter was not "the great tribulation" described in the Revelation
of LORD Jesus Christ.

> > May the hearts of our souls be filled with love on this St.
> > Valentine's day, dear brother Mistylein whom I love unconditionally.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> By the  Grace of Our Lord   what I say above is most true from a Bible
> stand point.

It is wiser to be in the Holy Spirit:

**** begin 2 Thessalonians 2 ****

Concerning the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ and our being gathered
to HIM, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or
alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from
us, saying that the day of the LORD has already come. Don't let anyone
deceive you in any way, for until the rebellion occurs and the man of
lawlessness is revealed, the man is doomed to destruction. He will
oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called GOD or is
worshiped, so that he sets himself up in GOD's temple, proclaiming
himself to be GOD.
Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these
things? And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be
revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is
already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do
so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be
revealed, whom the LORD Jesus will overthrow with the breath of HIS
mouth and destroy by the splendor of HIS coming. The coming of the
lawless one will be in accordance with the work of satan displayed in
all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every
sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish
because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this
reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe
the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the
truth but have delighted in wickedness.
But we ought always to thank GOD for you, brothers loved by the LORD,
because from the beginning GOD chose you to be saved through the
sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. HE
called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the
glory of our LORD Jesus Christ. So then, brothers, stand firm and hold
to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by
letter.
May our LORD Jesus Christ Himself and GOD our Father, Who loved us
and by HIS grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope,
encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word.

**** end Scripture reading ****

"The atheist is the man of lawlessness." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

May all non-christians reading this wisely choose to surrender to HIM
by publicly confessing with their mouths that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

The world as you know it may possible end in just over two weeks on
03/03/07.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear brother Mistylien whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Chris Johnson - 15 Feb 2007 13:22 GMT
On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

<snip>

> In the Holy Spirit, there is no guessing... only knowing.

Interesting. That must explain why Christians have never been wrong
about scientific matters.

<snip>

> The world as you know it may possible end in just over two weeks on
> 03/03/07.

Seriously Chung, why bother including weasel words like "may
possible" (sic)? It's not like you could possibly lose credibility by
being wrong. If you're going to be delusional, have some balls about
it.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Feb 2007 14:27 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Interesting. That must explain why Christians have never been wrong
> about scientific matters.

Not all Christians are brethren of LORD Jesus Christ.

> <snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> being wrong. If you're going to be delusional, have some balls about
> it.

Only LORD Almighty GOD knows exactly when this accursed world to which
you belong will be annihilated.

This victory belongs to Jesus, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Reverently fear HIM and dread nothing (including nuclear holocausts)
that are of this world:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 15 Feb 2007 16:52 GMT
> > The world as you know it may possibly end in just over two weeks on
> > 03/03/07.
>
> Seriously Chung, why bother including weasel words like "may
> possible" (sic)? It's not like you could possibly lose credibility by
> being wrong. If you're going to be delusional, have some balls about

So who is it, you or the one to whom responding?  The 1 thes 2 scripture
does not fit either of you.  Does any form of presumptive falsehood fit
here?  Or is it just another case of wobbly "chi" powers of
"discernment" that fades in and out like a bad cell phone?

Because we do not know the day, we do not know the person to whom you
refer either.  Your wiggle room has disappeared, the one to whom you
refer is tied to the end and for you to declare him is to also declare
the end.

Looks like the magic "chi" powers of "discernment" in prediction is the
same as flipping a coin,ie. it will happen or it will not.
Mistylien - 16 Feb 2007 04:47 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> This victory belongs to Jesus, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> mind, and strength:

If indeed you do love my Lord;  then you would also pay more
attention to the messengers He sends you.

M,

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
GaryG - 18 Feb 2007 05:04 GMT
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> If indeed you do love my Lord;  then you would also pay more
> attention to the messengers He sends you.

The problem is, Chung thinks that he *is* the messenger.

GG

> M,
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fatwa Dakkash - 18 Feb 2007 18:23 GMT
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
>The problem is, Chung thinks that he *is* the messenger.

Even worse, Chung thinks that he *is* the Messiah as well.
Fatwa Dakkash - 17 Feb 2007 03:36 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Only LORD Almighty GOD knows exactly when this accursed world to which
>you belong will be annihilated.

Well then (3-3-07) why do (3-3-07) you pretend (3-3-07) to have
(3-3-07) any insight (3-3-07) whatsoever into (3-3-07) what that
(3-3-07) date of (3-3-07) annihilation would (3-3-07) be???

> This defeat does not belong to Jesus, Whom I may or may not
> love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength, though at this
> point what I love more than anything is putting anybody
> who disagrees with what I say on my "Convicts" list:
[...flush...]

IFYPFY.
Art Deco - 17 Feb 2007 18:48 GMT
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
>IFYPFY.

This poast is APPROVED.

Signature

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Qadosh Stephanos - 17 Feb 2007 15:54 GMT
>Not all Christians are brethren of LORD Jesus Christ.

Messiah never spoke of Christians.

His name is not the name you say.

Messiah did not speak about Paul.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2007 05:21 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >Not all Christians are brethren of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> Messiah never spoke of Christians.

Correct.  Instead, HE spoke of His family.

> His name is not the name you say.

Correct.  Instead, His name is the name that is written on my heart.

> Messiah did not speak about Paul.

Correct.  Instead, HE spoke to Paul.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Just as GaryG clearly remains convicted by HIM:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6108c84d8694c7e9?

May both you and GaryG wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly
confessing with your mouths that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Qadosh Stephanos - 18 Feb 2007 15:26 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Correct.  Instead, HE spoke to Paul.

You mean by the light and that voice that is written in a books?

According to your illogic I may as well be a Mormon or a Muslim.

What are the names of the 12 Apostles in the book of Revelation?

>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

He set me free. Unlike Paul a prisoner. Convicts are for prisoners.

Maybe you are looking outside from within. You see people set free.

Maybe you are envious of people that God set free from your prison.

>Just as GaryG clearly remains convicted by HIM:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

The Messiah was God, an extension of His right arm and His right side.

There are some people who want to make God into their religious idols.

Clouds float in the sky. Messiah walked on water. You walk with Satan.

>Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2007 17:19 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> You mean by the light and that voice that is written in a books?

No, the words came from the mouth of my LORD, Who is the Creator of
heaven and earth, the Author of reality, and the GOD of Israel.

> According to your illogic I may as well be a Mormon or a Muslim.

Wiser to seek and receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit rather than
follow the religions of man.

> What are the names of the 12 Apostles in the book of Revelation?

They shall remain nameless in the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ for
they are subordinate to the "KING of kings and LORD of lords," Who is
my LORD and my GOD.

> >Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> He set me free.

That is not what I discern.

> Unlike Paul a prisoner. Convicts are for prisoners.

It is sin that imprisons you.

Without the LORD, everything you do is sin.

> Maybe you are looking outside from within.

Without the LORD, you will never be certain.

> You see people set free.

... by the truth, Who is my Savior and LORD.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

> Maybe you are envious of people that God set free from your prison.

In remains my choice to walk ever closer to Christ Jesus, Whom I love
with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing (including prisons) that is of
this world:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

> > Just as GaryG clearly remains convicted by HIM:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The Messiah was God, an extension of His right arm and His right side.

Actually, the Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, **is** GOD the Son and HE
remains at the right hand of GOD the Father.

> There are some people who want to make God into their religious idols.

It remains my choice to not be religious.

> Clouds float in the sky. Messiah walked on water.

HIS brethren walk with HIM on the water saved by HIM whenever they
doubt by calling out:

"LORD, save me ! "

> You walk with Satan.

Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Again, may you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly
confessing with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

You may possibly only have until 3/3/07 to do this.

Andrew <><
--
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http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fatwa Dakkash - 18 Feb 2007 18:22 GMT
>You may possibly only have until 3/3/07 to do this.

You may possibly have won $1,000,000 in the Publishers Clearing House
sweepstakes.
Art Deco - 18 Feb 2007 20:24 GMT
>>You may possibly only have until 3/3/07 to do this.
>
>You may possibly have won $1,000,000 in the Publishers Clearing House
>sweepstakes.

"If we can't beat any competitor's deal, we'll give you the car!"

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Kurt Gavin - 18 Feb 2007 18:23 GMT
> That is not what I discern.

You discern imaginery beings giving you messages.

You think you were killed back in 1997 and then brought back to life.

You are a flake.
Art Deco - 18 Feb 2007 20:41 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 95 lines]
>
>Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Weasel.

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Yang, AthD (h.c) - 15 Feb 2007 16:59 GMT
>On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>being wrong. If you're going to be delusional, have some balls about
>it.

This ought to be good...

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The Bush Iraq lie:            -3130 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush f.ck up my country:           Worthless

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Cary Kittrell - 15 Feb 2007 21:05 GMT
> >On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> This ought to be good...

And hey, don't forget the vaporization of Iran:

   What is predicted by our astronomers (and not by me) is a total lunar
   eclipse visible in the middle of the night sky for folks at the
   locations of the seven ancient churches of Christ on 3/3/2007.

   "...the whole moon turned blood red..." -- Apostle John (Revelation
   6:12d)

   What may possibly be coincident with (or subsequent to) this celestial
   event ?

   Multiple devastating nuclear warheads (the nuclear reactions will make
   them small stars) of the Trident II missiles from American and British
   submarines falling out of the sky to annihilate the city of Tehran and
   the rest or Iran.

           ( http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1765ee083ea5e165?dmode=source )
           
           
Note the obligatory weaselword "possibly".

But why not, I ask?  In fact, behold in wonder and amazement: I now
BOLDY inform you that the world will possibly end this very night,
February 15, 2007, at exactly 19:02:17 UCT.

And if it does, you heard it here first.

And if not?  Then I direct your attention to my Chungish use of the
word "possibly".

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Feb 2007 21:32 GMT
> > >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Note the obligatory weaselword "possibly".

"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Andrew <><
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http://EmoryCardiology.com
Smiler - 16 Feb 2007 02:48 GMT
>> >On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
>> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>    eclipse visible in the middle of the night sky for folks at the
>    locations of the seven ancient churches of Christ on 3/3/2007.

Bwahahahaha!
Utter chunky nonsense.
How can a total lunar eclipse can be visible in the middle of the night,
dickhead?

Smiler,
The godless one
Father Haskell - 16 Feb 2007 05:20 GMT
> > In article <1949t21ve7p9glq1bci0s74n0keu70c...@4ax.com> "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
> > <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> writes:
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> How can a total lunar eclipse can be visible in the middle of the night,
> dickhead?

Superior opposition, aka full moon, is the only time
you can have a lunar eclipse; it's a night time *solar*
eclipse that'd be a Chungian miracle of Lovecraftian
geometry.  He f.cks up more when he says the eclipsed
moon will be "dead overhead" for northern latitudes; that
would require the moon to travel north of the ecliptic (the
Sun and planets' apparent path through the night sky) for
two hours or so.
Mark K. Bilbo - 16 Feb 2007 18:15 GMT
>> >On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
>> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> And if not?  Then I direct your attention to my Chungish use of the
> word "possibly".

He BOLDLY uses weasel words...

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Cary Kittrell - 16 Feb 2007 20:27 GMT
> >> >On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
> >> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> He BOLDLY uses weasel words...

Hmmmm?  Grrrsmph?  Mark?  Mark, is that you?  Did you survive
my Absolutely Certain Possible End of the World, then?

-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo - 17 Feb 2007 16:39 GMT
>>>>> On Feb 15, 5:53 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
>>>>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> Hmmmm?  Grrrsmph?  Mark?  Mark, is that you?  Did you survive
> my Absolutely Certain Possible End of the World, then?

Me? Survive? No, not at all. I'm not here...
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Mistylien - 16 Feb 2007 04:41 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
snip<

>> > Watchpersons don't hold their breaths but rather simply use their
>> > breath to inform others of what they are seeing.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> "The man of lawlessness" will be revealed here and now not by himself
> but by the Holy Spirit.

1900 years of prophecy fulfilled?
The Bible was not written 2 days before you read it was it??

>>  Who was the first person to sit himself on the Throne of Rome
>> after Rome fell?
>
> No one politician is "the man of lawlessness."

No but it is the head office that seats the grandaddy fellow
and the   6 6 6 shows it is not just one but one right after the other
but for how long?   1260 prophetic days to the Wound.
The to the healing of the wound.

It is all there in the Church history  you know now all you need to do
is just read it.

>> When was the first Person to sit on that throne and declair Himself
>> the papa?  Big cheeze   or the first throned Pope.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> "The man of lawlessness" is not the pope of the Catholic Church.

It is any one that takes that office it is a 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6  procession
of Men  for mans number remains to be 6.

>> > There has not ever been a time like now with events matching
>> > temporally with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> In the Holy Spirit, there is no guessing... only knowing.

That is if you indeed do have the Spirit of " TRUTH" in that Holy
Spirit.

>> > The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
>> > be the will of LORD Almighty GOD.
>>
>> Wake up Oh Sleeper.  it may be a  bit later then you think.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, there is only wakefulness and no sleepiness.

So then open you eyes for some one is showing you a path you
have not taken just yet.

>> > "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
>> > washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." --
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> The latter was not "the great tribulation" described in the Revelation
> of LORD Jesus Christ.

What do you mean by "latter"?

>> > May the hearts of our souls be filled with love on this St.
>> > Valentine's day, dear brother Mistylein whom I love unconditionally.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> It is wiser to be in the Holy Spirit:

To be in The Spirit of Truth is to have also the Holy Spirit.

> **** begin 2 Thessalonians 2 ****
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> "The atheist is the man of lawlessness." -- Holy Spirit

The antichrist is also an atheist for His god is the god of fortress.

He exaults himself so highly  that he claims to take the place of
Jesus Christ the son of God.   AKA  "THE VICAR OF CHRIST"
Not only him but all officers below him have that same title.

No how blasphemous is that as it sayd in Rev  13.

Follow what Was given To Daniel and John both and compare
Prophesies and you should see they both accomidate each other.
Some say they are parallel  books.

Both books are explaining the prophecy that was given in Danil
chapter 2.

M,

> Amen.
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Feb 2007 10:21 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> 1900 years of prophecy fulfilled?

Prophetic visions are from GOD and HE stopped giving out such visions
after giving the last vision of the future to Apostle John who was at
the time exiled on the isle of Patmos for the Word of GOD.

> The Bible was not written 2 days before you read it was it??

Things in parentheses added per the will of men might as well have
been added 2 days before anyone has read the Bible because they should
have been ignored from the outset.

> >>  Who was the first person to sit himself on the Throne of Rome
> >> after Rome fell?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> It is all there in the Church history  you know now all you need to do
> is just read it.

It is wiser to seek the counsel of the Holy Spirit rather than the
counsel of history written per the will of men.

> >> When was the first Person to sit on that throne and declair Himself
> >> the papa?  Big cheeze   or the first throned Pope.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> It is any one that takes that office it is a 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6  procession
> of Men  for mans number remains to be 6.

"The man of lawlessness" is not the office of the papacy of the
Catholic Church.

> >> > There has not ever been a time like now with events matching
> >> > temporally with apostle John's vision of what was the future for him
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> That is if you indeed do have the Spirit of " TRUTH" in that Holy
> Spirit.

In the Holy Spirit, there is only the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- Jesus of Nazareth

Amen !   Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

> >> > The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
> >> > be the will of LORD Almighty GOD.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So then open you eyes for some one is showing you a path you
> have not taken just yet.

It remains my choice to continue walking ever more closely with LORD
Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world"

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

> >> > "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have
> >> > washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." --
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> What do you mean by "latter"?

The persecution and slaying of the saints.

> >> > May the hearts of our souls be filled with love on this St.
> >> > Valentine's day, dear brother Mistylein whom I love unconditionally.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> To be in The Spirit of Truth is to have also the Holy Spirit.

Those who are not guided by the Holy Spirit know not the perfect will
of GOD, Who is the truth.

> > **** begin 2 Thessalonians 2 ****
> >
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> >
> > "The atheist is the man of lawlessness." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

> The antichrist is also an atheist for His god is the god of fortress.

Incorrect.  The follower of satan, who is the anti-christ, believes in
GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of all reality just as
satan does.  The follower of satan simply remains in rebellion and at
war with GOD.

> He exaults himself so highly  that he claims to take the place of
> Jesus Christ the son of God.   AKA  "THE VICAR OF CHRIST"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Both books are explaining the prophecy that was given in Danil
> chapter 2.

Daniel 2 describes the current and final global kingdom as governed by
the United Nations (UN) as a divided kingdom "partly of baked clay and
partly of iron."

On the otherhand, Revelation 13 describes the Theory of Evolution
(ToE) as posited by Charles Darwin as "a beast coming out of the sea"
and Technology as another beast "coming out of the earth."  Both
beasts have drawn "the perishing" (aka those whose names are not
written in the Lamb's book of life) away from GOD.

> > May all non-christians reading this wisely choose to surrender to HIM
> > by publicly confessing with their mouths that "Jesus is LORD:"
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Fatwa Dakkash - 17 Feb 2007 03:39 GMT
>It is wiser to seek the counsel of the Holy Spirit rather than the
>counsel of history written per the will of men.

Funny, the Holy Spirit advised me that it is wiser to observe the
records of history than to pay any great attention to what you have to
say, Quacky.
Art Deco - 18 Feb 2007 04:49 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>"The man of lawlessness" will be revealed here and now not by himself
>but by the Holy Spirit.

"Here" of course means "usenet".

>>  Who was the first person to sit himself on the Throne of Rome
>> after Rome fell?
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>In the Holy Spirit, there is no guessing... only knowing.

In your case, there is only waffling and weaseling.

>> > The world's "great tribulation" may possibly start on 3/3/2007 if that
>> > be the will of LORD Almighty GOD.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>Concerning the coming of our LORD Jesus Christ and our being gathered
>to HIM, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or

[screed flush]

>and by HIS grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope,
>encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word.
>
>**** end Scripture reading ****
>
>"The atheist is the man of lawlessness." -- Holy Spirit

Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah

>Amen.
>
>May all non-christians reading this wisely choose to surrender to HIM
>by publicly confessing with their mouths that "Jesus is LORD:"

And make sure you pronounce those all-caps correctly lest Chung declare
you to be a "demon loitering on usenet."

>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
>The world as you know it may possible end in just over two weeks on
>03/03/07.

"may possible end" -- hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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Mistylien - 21 Feb 2007 07:31 GMT
snip<

>> Watchpersons don't hold their breaths but rather simply use their
>> breath to inform others of what they are seeing.
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Whew_NotYuppie - 14 Feb 2007 14:25 GMT
>> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
<clippola>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Aren't The Jews God's Chosen People?
That would make them the only 'very elect'.
You're such a fuckwad
yowie - 15 Feb 2007 06:58 GMT
> Aren't The Jews God's Chosen People?

If I were Jewish I'd be looking into ways of getting 'unchosen'.
Whew_NotYuppie - 15 Feb 2007 17:17 GMT
>> Aren't The Jews God's Chosen People?
>
> If I were Jewish I'd be looking into ways of getting 'unchosen'.

I think we're beyond unchosen, everyone hates us
Velvet Elvis - 16 Feb 2007 00:06 GMT
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:25:48 -0800, Whew_NotYuppie wrote:

> Aren't The Jews God's Chosen People?

I thought it was the Baltimore Colts.

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Don Kirkman - 14 Feb 2007 22:21 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1171424222.989012.177370@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:

>> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:

>> > You really believe the sh.t will hit the fan come March 3?
>
>Our astronomers are predicting a total lunar eclipse for March 3rd,
>2007.

>The prophecy of Revelation 6:12 would be fulfilled when this
>astronomical event occurs.

Which astronomers are "ours"?

I thought it was fulfilled when the total eclipse of 2006 happened.  Is
this a rerun for those who couldn't watch that time?
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Father Haskell - 14 Feb 2007 22:49 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1171424222.989012.177...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Which astronomers are "ours"?

Satan's.

How long have you been reading this ng?
GaryG - 14 Feb 2007 06:38 GMT
> You really believe the sh.t will hit the fan come March 3?
>
> Put up some green to prove it, or you're a liar.

Last year he posted hundreds of dire warnings about a "global earthquake",
and a "nuclear exchange" that he said would happen after a solar eclipse.
After the fact, he found a story about a miniscule earthquake that happened
near Tokyo (though it caused no injuries or damage)...and, of course, no
nuclear war.

He seems to be very obsessed with global death and destruction, and believes
that he's destined to play an important role in the end of the world as
"God's Messenger".  Presumably that's more comforting for him than dwelling
on his failed career and obvious mental problems.

GG
yowie - 14 Feb 2007 09:00 GMT
> He seems to be very obsessed with global death and destruction,

Well, he's a christian.
 
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