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star@gazer.com - 02 Feb 2007 22:06 GMT
Dr. Chung do you sin?  Please provide examples of how often and of what
kind?  Thank you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Feb 2007 22:43 GMT
neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:

> Dr. Chung do you sin?

No.

> Please provide examples of how often

Zero.

> and of what kind?

None.

>  Thank you.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

"With man this is impossible but with GOD, all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen ! !   Laus Deo ! ! !   Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

All glory to LORD Almighty GOD, creator of heaven and earth.

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Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42 - 02 Feb 2007 22:46 GMT
> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>
> > Dr. Chung do you sin?
>
> No.

Liar.

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Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into money but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover
onto food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass of as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly funddamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco.

Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 16:55 GMT
>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>>
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>Liar.

Liar.

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The Demon Prince of Absurdity - 03 Feb 2007 19:05 GMT
>>andrew@emorycardiology.com says...
>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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>
>Liar.

Liar.

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Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 20:12 GMT
>>>andrew@emorycardiology.com says...
>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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>Liar.

Liar.

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SameAsB4 - 03 Feb 2007 20:31 GMT
>>> andrew@emorycardiology.com says...
>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Liar.

desperate *ying* collective associate nym using moron!
Phil Kyle - 03 Feb 2007 20:40 GMT
>>>andrew@emorycardiology.com says...
>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Liar.

Liar.

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TransWench - 03 Feb 2007 21:31 GMT
I was busily flonking away in AUK, when The Goddess Eris Herself suddenly
made me reply to Phil Kyle:
> The Demon Prince of Absurdity verbally sodomised:
>>>>andrew@emorycardiology.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Liar.

Liar.

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The Secretary of HomIntern - 03 Feb 2007 21:37 GMT
> I was busily flonking away in AUK, when The Goddess Eris Herself suddenly
> made me reply to Phil Kyle:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Liar.

*ying* collective associate...
Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 21:53 GMT
>I was busily flonking away in AUK, when The Goddess Eris Herself suddenly
>made me reply to Phil Kyle:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Liar.

Liar.

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Archie Leach - 03 Feb 2007 22:02 GMT
>>I was busily flonking away in AUK, when The Goddess Eris Herself suddenly
>>made me reply to Phil Kyle:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Liar.

Liar -AND- sinner.
Text Medium No. 5 - 03 Feb 2007 23:23 GMT
Hail Eris! On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:02:17 -0600, Archie Leach jabbered
inanely:
>>>I was busily flonking away in AUK, when The Goddess Eris Herself
>>>suddenly made me reply to Phil Kyle:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Liar -AND- sinner.

Liar *AND* sinner.

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Text Medium No. 5 - 04 Feb 2007 00:05 GMT
> Hail Eris! On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:02:17 -0600, Archie Leach jabbered
> inanely:
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> Liar *AND* sinner.

*ying* collective associates are liars and trisexuals
Art Deco - 04 Feb 2007 00:49 GMT
meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:

>Hail Eris! On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:02:17 -0600, Archie Leach jabbered
>inanely:
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>Liar *AND* sinner.

Liar /and/ sinner.

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Archie Leach - 04 Feb 2007 01:36 GMT
>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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>Liar /and/ sinner.

Liar &and& sinner.
Phil Kyle - 04 Feb 2007 15:59 GMT
>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar &and& sinner.

Liar + sinner.

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Art Deco - 04 Feb 2007 20:10 GMT
>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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>Liar + sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.

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ah - 05 Feb 2007 17:20 GMT
>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.
Art Deco - 06 Feb 2007 01:23 GMT
>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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>Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.

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Archie Leach - 06 Feb 2007 06:41 GMT
>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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>Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _y_ sinner.
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN! - 06 Feb 2007 11:21 GMT
>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text
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> LIAR!
ah - 08 Feb 2007 01:08 GMT
>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.
Art Deco - 08 Feb 2007 02:52 GMT
>>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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>Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.

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ah - 08 Feb 2007 13:30 GMT
>>>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text Medium
>>>>>>>>No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.
Phi1 Ky1e - 08 Feb 2007 17:13 GMT
>>>>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text
>>>>>>>>>Medium No. 5 <mhm29x21@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar _und_ sinner.

Liar _und_ sinner.

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Father Haskell - 08 Feb 2007 22:04 GMT
> >>>>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text
> >>>>>>>>>Medium No. 5 <mhm29...@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> Liar _und_ sinner.

leugenaar _en_ zondaar
ah - 09 Feb 2007 11:39 GMT
>> >>>>>>>>>meow.flonk.mockery.demon.flonk.meow.i.am.not.really.leola>, Text
>> >>>>>>>>>Medium No. 5 <mhm29...@meow.flonk> wrote:
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> leugenaar _en_ zondaar

Menteur _et_ pécheur.
Phil Kyle - 03 Feb 2007 20:40 GMT
>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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> Liar.

Liar.

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Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 21:53 GMT
>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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>Liar.

Liar.

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Phil Kyle - 04 Feb 2007 15:59 GMT
>>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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> Liar.

Liar.

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Art Deco - 04 Feb 2007 20:11 GMT
>>>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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>Liar.

Liar.

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Archie Leach - 06 Feb 2007 06:41 GMT
>>>>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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>Liar.

Liar.

(and sinner)
Phi1 Ky1e - 08 Feb 2007 17:13 GMT
>>>>>>>> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
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> Liar.

Liar.

> (and sinner)

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malscribe - 02 Feb 2007 23:26 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:

> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>
>> Dr. Chung do you sin?
>
> No.

Jesuschristers like you always claim that God's the only being who
doesn't sin.  Are you claiming to be God?

>> Please provide examples of how often
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> None.

Three lies, all in a row.  You know what you are, Chung?  You're a false
Christian.  A closeted Satan worshipper, spouting Bible verses and
pretending to be something you're not.

> All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
> soul, mind, and strength:

I believe you really mean this -- in the context of your implicit claim
(above) to be God.
Archie Leach - 06 Feb 2007 06:43 GMT
>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
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>Jesuschristers like you

No, most "Jesuschristers" are -not- like Chung, insofar as even the
most unapologetically Evangelical/Fundamentalist will admit freely
that they are sinners.

Chung, on the other hand, is too proud to admit that he sins--pride
being a deadly sin in and of itself.

Maybe Chung should stop bearing false witness about himself.
Father Haskell - 07 Feb 2007 20:04 GMT
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
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> Maybe Chung should stop bearing false witness about himself.

There goes his credibility.  All of it.

I wonder what ***else *** he's been lying about?
Cary Kittrell - 02 Feb 2007 23:34 GMT
The Immaculate Deception Award perhaps?  The Raymond K Memorial None So Blind
Citation?  C'mon people, this left me so gobsmacked I can't think..

Seen on `sci.med.cardiology':

neighbor star@gazer.com wrote:

> Dr. Chung do you sin?

No.

> Please provide examples of how often

Zero.

> and of what kind?

None.

>  Thank you.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

"With man this is impossible but with GOD, all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen ! !   Laus Deo ! ! !   Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

All glory to LORD Almighty GOD, creator of heaven and earth.

Laus Deo !

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Mark K. Bilbo - 03 Feb 2007 02:31 GMT
> The Immaculate Deception Award perhaps?  The Raymond K Memorial None So Blind
> Citation?  C'mon people, this left me so gobsmacked I can't think..
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> No.

Ooo. Quote the bible to him. John says anyone who says they are without
sin is a liar and the truth is not in them...

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stoney - 15 Feb 2007 00:56 GMT
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:31:52 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism

>> The Immaculate Deception Award perhaps?  The Raymond K Memorial None So Blind
>> Citation?  C'mon people, this left me so gobsmacked I can't think..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Ooo. Quote the bible to him. John says anyone who says they are without
>sin is a liar and the truth is not in them...

/Chungcase
"You're being deceived by Satan."

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Pastor Kutchie - 03 Feb 2007 09:22 GMT
> The Immaculate Deception Award perhaps?  The Raymond K Memorial None So Blind
> Citation?  C'mon people, this left me so gobsmacked I can't think..
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

Grand-wizard of the Order of Dumpty.

I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't-till I tell
you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice
objected.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone,
'it means just what I choose it to mean-neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so
many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master-that's
all.'

Ha!  BTFR!
star@gazer.com - 03 Feb 2007 00:05 GMT
Dr. Chung, do you sin?  Would you pleas provide an idea of what sins and
how often?  Thank you.
star@gazer.com - 03 Feb 2007 00:16 GMT
>> Dr. Chung do you sin?
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>None.

Now we know the truth.  Now measure these responses with the below which
also provides the medicine for sin :

1John 1:8-2:6

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us.  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that
we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

God have mercy on me a sinner.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Feb 2007 00:30 GMT
neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Now we know the truth.

If you did know HIM, you would stop sinning too.

Truth is simple.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..."  -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen ! !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
malscribe - 03 Feb 2007 00:51 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:

> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> If you did know HIM, you would stop sinning too.

1John 1:8-2:6

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us.  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that
we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Read it and weep, Chung.
Cary Kittrell - 03 Feb 2007 01:06 GMT
> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Truth is simple.

So in response to Jesus' question, you would have
been justified in picking up a rock and lobbing
it at the adultress?

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Feb 2007 12:40 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> been justified in picking up a rock and lobbing
> it at the adultress?

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
helpful suggestion of my LORD as given in Matthew 7.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister - 03 Feb 2007 13:43 GMT
On Feb 3, 12:40 pm, God's retreat dog reiterated:

> > So in response to Jesus' question, you would have
> > been justified in picking up a rock and lobbing
> > it at the adultress?
>
> It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
> helpful suggestion of my LORD as given in Matthew 7.

Groundhog day was yesterday.
star@gazer.com - 03 Feb 2007 14:13 GMT
Dr Chung in a self reflection opined:

"It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
helpful suggestion of my LORD as given in Matthew 7."

Then turns to say:

"Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:"

Which seems to be measured in the section of Matt. mentioned as being to
the contrary:

  =1]

  "Judge not, that you be not judged.
  =2] For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the
  measure you give will be the measure you get.
  =3] Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do
not
  notice the log that is in your own eye?
  =4] Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of
  your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?
  =5] You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then
  you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 16:59 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
>helpful suggestion of my LORD as given in Matthew 7.

Coward.

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Cary Kittrell - 06 Feb 2007 23:23 GMT
> False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> >It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
> >helpful suggestion of my LORD as given in Matthew 7.

Oh, I don't think that's cowardly at all: Chung is saying
that he would, boldly, refuse to obey a direct commandment
from Jesus: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".
Andrew is without sin, Jesus orders such a one to start chucking rocks.
Andrew refuses.

That's pretty courageous, if you think about it.

-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 Feb 2007 23:48 GMT
> demon wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> that he would, boldly, refuse to obey a direct commandment
> from Jesus: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".

My LORD was addressing those who had picked up stones.

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are the ones who like HIM had not
picked up any stones to cast in the first place.

The truth is invincible.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! !

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

> Andrew is without sin, Jesus orders such a one to start chucking rocks.
> Andrew refuses.
>
> That's pretty courageous, if you think about it.
>
> -- cary
Art Deco - 08 Feb 2007 02:53 GMT
>> False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>That's pretty courageous, if you think about it.

Yet despite his claim above, he does in fact judge people.  I am
Exhibit A.

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star@gazer.com - 03 Feb 2007 01:31 GMT
>> >> Dr. Chung do you sin?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> >
>> >None.

>> Now we know the truth.

>If you did know HIM, you would stop sinning too.

If you did know me you would remember that to judge is a sin.  If I had
never existed the question of your sin remains.  My sin is not the
measure of your sin, only to miss the mark with God.  I forgive you, if
I have offended forgive me.

Dr. Chung, is removing the most important part, the Word of God as the
measure of sin, when intending to side step the question of your sin?
For your consideration here it is again with the medicine for sin
included, a kind of prescription if you will:

1John 1:8-2:6

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us.  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that
we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

God have mercy on me a sinner.
Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 17:03 GMT
>>> >> Dr. Chung do you sin?
>>> >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Dr. Chung, is removing the most important part, the Word of God as the
>measure of sin, when intending to side step the question of your sin?

It is Teh Way of Teh Chung -- snip-n-run away from the truth whenever
his usenet statements are exposed.

>For your consideration here it is again with the medicine for sin
>included, a kind of prescription if you will:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>God have mercy on me a sinner.

Yep, I give Chung about four more posts by you until he puts your name
on his "convicts" list.

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Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 16:59 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>If you did know HIM, you would stop sinning too.

*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*
*BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK* *BAWK*

Let's review what Chung ran away from with his latest snip-n-run:

:1John 1:8-2:
:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Truth is simple.

In your case, Chung, the truth obviously hurts.

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bob young - 03 Feb 2007 08:33 GMT
His sin is 'bearing false witness' as we have just seen

> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Kutchie - 03 Feb 2007 09:09 GMT
On Feb 2, 10:43 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
> > Dr. Chung do you sin?
>
> No.

Yes:

Cyberstalking is a sin

Copyright theft is a sin

Self aggrandisement is a sin

Running away from the truth is a sin

Having an attitude about being pig ignorant is a sin

Lying is a sin
Art Deco - 03 Feb 2007 16:55 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>None.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

You're a real piece of work, Chung.

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Qadosh Stephanos - 03 Feb 2007 17:43 GMT
>neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Zero.

1st John 1:8 (ASV)

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Feb 2007 17:52 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor s...@gazer.com wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
> not in us.

"Stop sinning." -- LORD Jesus Christ

"Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
malscribe - 03 Feb 2007 18:02 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:

> "Stop sinning." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Not in the Bible.

> "Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.

Not in the Bible either.

> Andrew <><

Jesus is gonna kick your a.s for putting words in His mouth.
Qadosh Stephanos - 03 Feb 2007 18:15 GMT
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>"Stop sinning." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Do Christian's have a forgivable licence to sin?

>"Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.

"Yes, my Book." -- Brain dead people.

>Andrew <><

Hey bud, you forgot to include your tag line.

Where is Andrew?. Come out, wherever you are.

Come on Andrew,do not be so self-righteous.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Feb 2007 19:15 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >
> >"Stop sinning." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen.

> Do Christian's have a forgivable licence to sin?

We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, simply choose not to sin.

> >"Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.
>
> "Yes, my Book." -- Brain dead people.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
star@gazer.com - 03 Feb 2007 19:46 GMT
> >> >> Dr. Chung do you sin?
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> >"Stop sinning." -- LORD Jesus Christ

If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his
tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
James 1: 26
Qadosh Stephanos - 03 Feb 2007 22:51 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, simply choose not to sin.

I guess what I said was correct. Thank's for pointing that out.

The problem with the Pharisees is they thought they didn't sin.

Spiritual prostitution is a thing you don't want to know about.

>> >"Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

You are given the opportunity while you remain in the flesh.

That is to choose to follow a religious book, or God's word.

Do not be of those people who think they have righteousness.

>Andrew <><

Righteousness is a verb. It does not need any adjectives.

The true "brethren" of the Messiah are not of this world.

Some people are prostitutes, as it was in the beginning.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Feb 2007 03:36 GMT
> Andrew,in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> I guess what I said was correct. Thank's for pointing that out.

You asked a meaningless question for which I gave a Spirit-guided
answer.

> The problem with the Pharisees is they thought they didn't sin.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
helpful suggestion of my LORD (Matthew 7:1-2).

> Spiritual prostitution is a thing you don't want to know about.

Such is the consequence of blaspheming the Holy Spirit as it is
written that some of the Pharisees unwisely did and some here have
done:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?

> >> >"Yes, my LORD." -- HIS brethren.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Do not be of those people who think they have righteousness.

In the Holy Spirit, I know most assuredly without doubt that the only
right side is by the side of LORD Jesus Christ.

> Righteousness is a verb. It does not need any adjectives.

Actually, righteousness is a noun.

> The true "brethren" of the Messiah are not of this world.

Actually, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this
world just as HE is not of this world.

> Some people are prostitutes, as it was in the beginning.

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by confessing publicly with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Art Deco - 04 Feb 2007 04:26 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> Some people are prostitutes, as it was in the beginning.
>
>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by confessing publicly with
>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

And Chung also sez: "make sure you pronounce those all-caps or you
become demon loitering on usenet."

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Qadosh Stephanos - 04 Feb 2007 15:43 GMT
>> Andrew,in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
>
>Andrew <><

Penguins are birds that are unable to fly like the other birds.

An Ostrich is also a bird that cannot fly like the other birds.

Some people have their attributes. Cold and buried in the sand.

Revelation 12:10 (KJV)

And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the
salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the
authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
who accuseth them before our God day and night.

Martin Luther: The father of the Reformation (Protestantism).

He did not like the book of James nor the book of Revelation.

The people that speak with their own spirit are in darkness.

Revelation chapter 18.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Feb 2007 19:36 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew,in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 75 lines]
>
> Penguins are birds that are unable to fly like the other birds.

GOD's purpose for them is to fly in the water defying explanation by
believers of Darwin's ToE, which is the beast that was fatally wounded
yet still lives.

> An Ostrich is also a bird that cannot fly like the other birds.

GOD's purpose for them is to run again defying explanation by
believers of Darwin's ToE, the mortally wounded beast of satan.

> Some people have their attributes. Cold and buried in the sand.

Actually, some penguins live and thrive in temperate areas of the
world.

> Revelation 12:10 (KJV)
>
> And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the
> salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the
> authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
> who accuseth them before our God day and night.

At this point in time, you seem to be among the accusers of the
brethren of LORD Jesus Christ.

> Martin Luther: The father of the Reformation (Protestantism).
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Revelation chapter 18.

It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.

May you wisely choose to surrender to the Messiah to receive the
salvation that only HE can give to rescue you from the dark prince
(ancient serpent) of this accursed world and publicly confess with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Archie Leach - 06 Feb 2007 06:46 GMT
>> Do Christian's have a forgivable licence to sin?
>
>We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, simply choose not to sin.

*COUGH* *COUGH* BULLSHIT *COUGH* *COUGH*

You may choose to avoid sin, but sooner or later, every mortal human
commits sins of WHATEVER sort.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 Feb 2007 08:59 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You may choose to avoid sin, but sooner or later, every mortal human
> commits sins of WHATEVER sort.

"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible" --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May you wise choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

`Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
SameAsB4 - 07 Feb 2007 09:37 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> "With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible" --
> LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

That must have been your most effective preaching. Think about, if something
is possible, wouldn't you want to believe it?

> Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 Feb 2007 10:59 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> That must have been your most effective preaching. Think about, if something
> is possible, wouldn't you want to believe it?

Those with hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know that
realized possibilities is GOD's will and not our will:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

May we, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, continue to prayer for our
dear friends and neighbors (especially Dave and Randy) who have been
convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Dave (aka giant waffle or biblebeliever) and Randy (aka pulpitfire)
continue to remind me of ex-pastor Dan Barker:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/blind.asp

May they wisely choose to surrender to GOD by publicly confessing with
their mouths that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
SameAsB4 - 07 Feb 2007 11:18 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Those with hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know that
> realized possibilities is GOD's will and not our will:

Science also consider godless universe a possibility. But by who's will?

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 Feb 2007 11:43 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Science also consider godless universe a possibility. But by who's will?

Science has no free will to consider anything.

It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.

The truth is invincible.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... "-- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

This victory belongs to GOD Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM by publicly confessing with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May you choose wisely at these crossroads of your life:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Pastor Kutchie - 07 Feb 2007 11:56 GMT
On Feb 7, 11:43 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.

ROTFL, so, when our ancestors lived in caves, God didn't exist.

f.ck! You're stupid.
SameAsB4 - 07 Feb 2007 12:27 GMT
> On Feb 7, 11:43 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
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>
> ROTFL, so, when our ancestors lived in caves, God didn't exist.

You are different, monkey.

> f.ck! You're stupid.
SameAsB4 - 07 Feb 2007 12:16 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> Science has no free will to consider anything.

Dispassionate observation is the most accurate kind. Do religious men have
the free will to believe the god of the other camp?

> It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.

Is it possible to have an Universe without Jesus Christ being the son of
god?

> The truth is invincible.

Lies die early in human history.

> "I am the way, the truth, and the life... "-- LORD Jesus Christ
>
> Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !  Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
> This victory belongs to GOD Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
> and strength:

If you lose this argument, do you blame it onto Jesus?

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
>
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> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 Feb 2007 18:09 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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> Dispassionate observation is the most accurate kind. Do religious men have
> the free will to believe the god of the other camp?

It remains GOD's infinite and perfect will that all souls retain HIS
generous gift of free will.

> > It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> > is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.
>
> Is it possible to have an Universe without Jesus Christ being the son of
> god?

Jesus Christ is GOD.  From this fact, you should be able to figure out
that the answer to your question has already been given to you.

"My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- Disciple "Doubting" Thomas upon seeing
the risen Christ Jesus.

> > The truth is invincible.
>
> Lies die early in human history.

Lies remain a part of human history and will remain so until satan,
who is the source of all lies, is annihilated.

> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... "-- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
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>
> If you lose this argument, do you blame it onto Jesus?

In the Holy Spirit, there is only victory.

You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by arguing with
the seeing about their vision and then wondering why his argument has
been one-sided.

> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> >
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> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
SameAsB4 - 08 Feb 2007 06:21 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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> It remains GOD's infinite and perfect will that all souls retain HIS
> generous gift of free will.

Yet each religion claims that you see GOD ONLY via their temple. Somebody
must be lying, if not all of them.

>> > It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
>> > is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.
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> Jesus Christ is GOD.  From this fact, you should be able to figure out
> that the answer to your question has already been given to you.

But Virgin Mary did give birth to Jesus as a matter of fact. GOD and HIS
Mother who comes first?

> "My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- Disciple "Doubting" Thomas upon seeing
> the risen Christ Jesus.

Self-fulfilling prophecies are often creations from experiences with
purpose, direction and a particular influence in mind. That's only a
possibility.

>> > The truth is invincible.
>>
>> Lies die early in human history.
>
> Lies remain a part of human history and will remain so until satan,
> who is the source of all lies, is annihilated.

Humanity would also likely be dead by then. That's intuitively natural.

>> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... "-- LORD Jesus Christ
>> >
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>
> In the Holy Spirit, there is only victory.

May be so for the Holy Spirit. But you lose arguments on Usenet daily. It
would have been another victory for GOD, if you were a better preacher.

> You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by arguing with
> the seeing about their vision and then wondering why his argument has
> been one-sided.

If I had a choice, I prefer to be a child who was born near sighted. Upon
testing  eye glasses, I would clearly see this dirty world and accept it
while changing it.

>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
>> >
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>> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 Feb 2007 09:52 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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> Yet each religion claims that you see GOD ONLY via their temple. Somebody
> must be lying, if not all of them.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and
helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2).

> >> > It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> >> > is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.
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> But Virgin Mary did give birth to Jesus as a matter of fact. GOD and HIS
> Mother who comes first?

GOD predates all.  HE is the Author of all reality.

> > "My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- Disciple "Doubting" Thomas upon seeing
> > the risen Christ Jesus.
>
> Self-fulfilling prophecies are often creations from experiences with
> purpose, direction and a particular influence in mind. That's only a
> possibility.

Recognition and understanding are not prophecy.

> >> > The truth is invincible.
> >>
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>
> Humanity would also likely be dead by then. That's intuitively natural.

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have been given eternal life.

We are no longer of this world just as HE is not of this world.

> >> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... "-- LORD Jesus Christ
> >> >
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>
> May be so for the Holy Spirit.

In the Holy Spirit, there is no doubt.

> But you lose arguments on Usenet daily.

GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either argue,
convince, or convert.

> It
> would have been another victory for GOD, if you were a better preacher.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> > You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by arguing with
> > the seeing about their vision and then wondering why his argument has
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> testing  eye glasses, I would clearly see this dirty world and accept it
> while changing it.

Blindness is not near-sightedness but rather no-sightedness.

LORD Almighty GOD remains the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> >> >
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> >> > (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meat Plow - 07 Feb 2007 12:42 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> Science has no free will to consider anything.

Don't you have a heart to operate on or something?

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SameAsB4 - 07 Feb 2007 13:00 GMT
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
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>
> Don't you have a heart to operate on or something?

Wherever your opinion lies, your post always lies.
malscribe - 07 Feb 2007 19:10 GMT
Meat Plow barfed up this disgusting mess:

>> Science has no free will to consider anything.
>
> Don't you have a heart to operate on or something?

NO!!  Chung, don't listen to his crazy talk -- you stay RIGHT HERE on
Usenet and try to convert the heathens.  M'kay?
Kadaitcha Man - 07 Feb 2007 20:28 GMT
malscribe <writer@rotted.pencil> Thou prince of fiends. Thou yeasty,
podgy peasant. Thou shrewd knave and happy fool. Frailty, thy name is
woman. Ye castigated and ye clacked:  

> Meat Plow barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> NO!!  Chung, don't listen to his crazy talk -- you stay RIGHT HERE on
> Usenet and try to convert the heathens.  M'kay?

Oh, you're a patient of his.

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September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"remember that th [sic] head toecutter has quarter million confirmed
kadaitcha man kills ok" - the land surfer

Fuckwitted alt.atheism atheist to Kadaitcha Man:
"Imagine if I were to suggest "I have a prehensile tail". You
would, naturally, ask for evidence."

Kadaitcha Man in reply to fuckwitted alt.atheism atheist:
"Not at all. I would unquestionably accept your admission to being
a monkey."

"I have forgotten more about IT than both you sorry bitches combined."
DUHane Arnold in <r_myh.20067$yx6.64@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>

Thou caddis-garter. Thou reeky, perverted withered.

e - 07 Feb 2007 23:56 GMT
> malscribe <writer@rotted.pencil> Thou prince of fiends. Thou yeasty,
> podgy peasant. Thou shrewd knave and happy fool. Frailty, thy name is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>>>> Science has no free will to consider anything.

\

> "I have forgotten more about IT than both you sorry bitches combined."
> DUHane Arnold in <r_myh.20067$yx6.64@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
>
> Thou caddis-garter. Thou reeky, perverted withered.

    Wisdom of a Lifetime - http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0002.html
Pastor Kutchie - 08 Feb 2007 08:31 GMT
> > malscribe <wri...@rotted.pencil> Thou prince of fiends. Thou yeasty,
> > podgy peasant. Thou shrewd knave and happy fool. Frailty, thy name is
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>      Wisdom of a Lifetime -http://www.talkorigins.org

Indeed.
e - 08 Feb 2007 17:31 GMT
>> > malscribe <wri...@rotted.pencil> Thou prince of fiends. Thou yeasty,
>> > podgy peasant. Thou shrewd knave and happy fool. Frailty, thy name is
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Indeed.

The Spirit of Error!

Let's examine the presuppositions of this newsgroup
and the underling control force driving it.

(1 John 4:1-4 NASB)

Testing the Spirits

    1     ?a?Beloved, do not believe every ?b?spirit, but test the spirits to
    see whether they are from God, because ?c?many false prophets have
    gone out into the world.

    2     By this you know the Spirit of God: ?a?every spirit that
    ?b?confesses that ?c?Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

    3     and every spirit that ?a?does not confess Jesus is not from God;
    this is the spirit of the ?b?antichrist, of which you have heard that it is
    coming, and ?c?now it is already in the world.

    4     You are from God, ?a?little children, and ?b?have overcome
    them; because ?c?greater is He who is in you than ?d?he who is in the
    world.

    5     ?a?They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the
    world, and the world listens to them.

    6     ?a?We are from God; ?b?he who knows God listens to us; ?c?he
    who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know ?d?the
    spirit of truth and ?e?the spirit of error.
[1]

==

A Truth to Claim         (4-6)

A.      You Are From God
1.        You Listen to God
2.        Listen to Us
B.       They Are From Anti-Christ
1.        They Listen to the World
2.        Can't Listen to Us
C.       Thus You Can Discern
1.        Spirit of Truth
2.        Spirit of Error

==

1 John 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of
God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Perfect, mature love requires discernment. Perfect love requires that we
test the spirits in order that we don't fall prey to those who would seek to
lure us away from the simplicity of the gospel. How do we test the spirits?
Read on.

1 John 4:2, 3

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of
antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now
already is it in the world.
If a teaching, suggestion, or thought is of the spirit of God, it will affirm
both the deity and the humanity of Christ.
The question in the early church never concerned the deity of Christ. The
debate was over His humanity. Church councils would convene in the
second century and argue vehemently over this issue because gnostic
thought had penetrated the church. Two thousand years later, however, it
is the deity of Christ that is continually called into question. John says the
Spirit of God attests to both the humanity and deity of Christ. Such is the
test by which we recognize Him.

1 John 4:4

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is
he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
The walls of the submarines that descend two miles into the Mariana
Trench of the Pacific Ocean are constructed of thick steel plates to
withstand the tremendous pressure placed upon them. But the pictures
taken from such heavily protected submarines reveal fish swimming two
miles below the surface of the water with scales no thicker than that of any
other fish. How can this be? The answer is simple: The pressure on the
inside of those fish is equal to the pressure of the water around them.
That's the beauty of Christianity. Some people erect massive walls to
insulate themselves from the attacks of the Enemy-only to find
themselves filled with the frustration of isolation. The key is not to put up
massive walls to protect you from the Enemy-but to realize the One
inside you is greater than whatever pressure threatens to attack you.
When we understand that He that is in us is greater than any temptation,
problem, trauma, or difficulty that could come against us, we can move
through life freely.
[2]

==

THE NEED TO DISCERN BETWEEN TRUTH AND ERROR (4:1-6)

4:1 Having mentioned the Holy Spirit, John is reminded that there are
other spirits abroad in the world today, and that the children of God need
to be warned against them. Thus he cautions the believer not to trust every
spirit. The word spirit here probably refers primarily to teachers but not
exclusively so. Just because a man speaks about the Bible, God, and
Jesus does not mean that he is a true child of God. We are to test the
spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone
out into the world. These are people who profess to accept Christianity,
but teach another gospel altogether.

4:2 John gives the actual tests by which these men are to be proven. The
great test of a teacher is, "What do you think of Christ?" Every spirit that
confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. It is not so
much the confession of the historical fact, namely that Jesus was born into
the world in a human body, but rather it is the confession of a living
Person, Jesus Christ come in the flesh. It is the confession that
acknowledges Jesus as the Christ Incarnate. And confessing Him means
bowing to Him as Lord of one's life. Now if you ever hear a person
presenting the Lord Jesus as the true Christ of God, you will know that he
is speaking by the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God calls on men to
acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord and to commit their lives to Him. The
Holy Spirit always glorifies Jesus.

4:3 And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in
the flesh is not of God.? 5 This is how you can detect the false teachers.
They do not confess the Jesus who was described in the previous verse.
This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which has been prophesied and which is
now already in the world. There are many today who are willing to say
acceptable things about Jesus, but they will not confess Him as God
Incarnate. They will say that Christ is "divine," but not that He is God.

4:4 Humble believers are able to overcome these false teachers because
they have the Holy Spirit within them, and this enables them to detect
error and to refuse to listen to it.

[3]

==

(1 Corinthians 2:9-16 NASB)

9     but just as it is written,
"?a?Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard,
And which have not entered the heart of man,
All that God has prepared for those who love Him."[4]

10     ?1??a?For to us God revealed them ?b?through the Spirit; for the
Spirit searches all things, even the ?c?depths of God.

11     For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the
?a?spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one
knows except the Spirit of God.

12     Now we ?a?have received, not the spirit of ?b?the world, but the
Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us
by God,

13     which things we also speak, ?a?not in words taught by human
wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, ?1?combining spiritual thoughts
with spiritual words.

14     But ?1?a ?a?natural man ?b?does not accept the things of the Spirit
of God, for they are ?c?foolishness to him; and he cannot understand
them, because they are spiritually ?2?appraised.

15     But he who is ?a?spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is
appraised by no one.

16     For ?a?who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct
Him? But ?b?we have the mind of Christ.[5]

2:9 These words from Is. 64:4, often incorrectly thought to refer to the
wonders of heaven, refer rather to the wisdom God has prepared for
believers. God's truth is not discoverable by eye or ear (objective,
empirical evidence), nor is it discovered by the mind (subjective, rational
conclusions).

In addition to this being a reference to heaven, I believe Paul is saying
even this side of heaven, we as believers see things others don't and know
things others can't because the Spirit reveals to us the big picture
eternally.[6]

2:10-16 The wisdom that saves, which man's wisdom can't know, is
revealed to us by God. He makes it known by revelation, inspiration, and
illumination. Revelation (vv. 10, 11) and inspiration (vv. 12, 13) were
given to those who wrote the Bible; illumination (vv. 14-16) is given to all
believers who seek to know and understand that divinely written truth. In
each case, the Holy Spirit is the divine agent doing the work (cf. 2 Pet.
1:21).

2:10 God has revealed them. By the Holy Spirit, God disclosed His
saving truth (cf. Matt. 11:25; 13:10-13). The Spirit alone was qualified
because He knows all that God knows, Himself being God. to us. As with
the "we's" in vv. 6, 7 and vv. 12, 13, Paul is, first of all, speaking of
himself (as in John 14:26; 15:26, 27; see notes there), and, in a sense, of
believers who have been given the Word as recorded by the apostles and
their associates who wrote the NT.

Who knows what God is doing? Only the Spirit of God-the same Spirit
given to us (John 14:16). The Spirit of God reveals to His people that
which human eyes can't see, that which human ears don't hear.[7]

2:12 we have received. The "we" and "us" refer to the apostles and other
writers of the Word of God. The means was inspiration (see notes on 2
Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21), by which God freely gave the gift of His
Word. It was this process of inspiration that turned the spiritual thoughts
into spiritual words (v. 13) to give life (cf. Matt. 4:4).

We see things others don't. We hear things others can't because the Holy
Spirit ministers to our spirits concerning spiritual truth. As a result, we
look at the world around us entirely differently. For example, the spiritual
man says, "No matter what the forecasters are predicting economically,
the Scriptures tell me God shall supply all my need, according to His
riches" (see Philippians 4:19). So, too, when the news anchors tell us the
Middle East is heating up and that conflict is about to erupt once more, I
already know what the political pundits can only guess at-that the armies
of the world will indeed converge upon the Middle East and that there will
be a battle ultimately.[8]

2:14 natural man. This refers to the unconverted, who lack supernatural
life and wisdom. Spiritually discerned. Through illumination of the Word,
the Holy Spirit provides His saints the capacity to discern divine truth (see
Ps. 119:18), which the spiritually dead are unable to comprehend (cf.
John 5:37-39; see notes on 1 John 2:20, 27). The doctrine of illumination
does not mean we know everything (cf. Deut. 29:29), that we do not
need teachers (cf. Eph. 4:11, 12), or that understanding does not require
hard work (cf. 2 Tim. 2:15).

The natural man goes to Food 4 Less and buys all-natural salad dressing
and naturally grown tomatoes. When a lady pushes her way in front of him
in the checkout line, it's only natural that he gets upset. After ringing up his
groceries, the checker accidentally gives him too much change. He keeps
it, naturally. Then he comes home and does what comes naturally: He
eats, drinks, and is somewhat merry-until the emptiness in his soul drives
him to look for something else. So he comes to a Bible study. He hears
the Word being taught, the Scriptures being discussed, but they are
foolishness to him because, as a natural man, he is spiritually blind.

The idea that man is a free moral agent is somewhat of a misconception.
Paul told Timothy that men are taken captive by the Enemy against their
wills, as they are blinded and bound by Satan (2 Timothy 2:26). That is
why when the natural man hears the Word, it's foolishness to him.

Much of our witnessing is ineffective because we fail to pray, "Lord,
please remove the blindfold Satan has put on this person's eyes.
Otherwise, he won't see the real issues. Please open his ears. Otherwise,
He won't hear Your voice."[9]

2:15 judged by no one. Obviously, unbelievers are able to recognize
Christians' faults and shortcomings; but they are not able to evaluate their
true nature as spiritual people who have been transformed into children of
God (cf. 1 John 3:2).

Although the spiritual man is able to put everything in perspective, the
worldling can't figure him out. The world can't understand why you go to
Bible study, why you have devotions, why you spend time in worship.
You're a puzzle, an enigma, a dilemma to the unbeliever.[10]

2:16 the mind of Christ. Quoted from Is. 40:13. The same word is
translated "understanding" in 14:14, 15, 19. Believers are allowed, by the
Word and the Spirit, to know the thoughts of their Lord. Cf. Luke
24:45.[11]

==

Six Liars

If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we
lie and do not practice the truth. -1 John 1:6

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His truth is
not in us. -1 John 1:10

He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar,
and the truth is not in him. -1 John 2:4

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist,
that denieth the Father and the Son. -1 John 2:22

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that
loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom
he hath not seen? -1 John 4:20

He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself; he that
believeth not God hath made God a liar; because he believeth not the
record that God gave of his Son. -1 John 5:10

John always includes a "key" to his writings, which will "unlock" their
meaning: Revelation 1:19 is its outline; John 20:31 is the specific purpose
of his Gospel; and, 1 John has 4 (times 7?) keys, all identified by the
phrase, "These things I write..."

"1 John" is more like a written sermon, a further development of the
themes in 2 John. We have left it to the last as the climax of the series.

==

Another Approach

1 John 4:1-6[12]

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but ?a?test the spirits, whether they
are of God; because ?b?many false prophets have gone out into the
world. ?2? By this you know the Spirit of God: ?c?Every spirit that
confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, ?3? and every
spirit that does not confess ?1?that Jesus ?2?Christ has come in the flesh
is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have
heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
?4? You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He
who is in you is greater than ?d?he who is in the world. ?5? ?e?They are
of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and ?f?the world
hears them. ?6? We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is
not of God does not hear us. ?g?By this we know the spirit of truth and
the spirit of error.

Verse Interpretation

4:1 Beloved, This term is used to exclusively represent the people of God.
do not believe every spirit. Looking back one verse to (1 John 3:24), the
mention of the Holy Spirit prompts John to inform his readers that those
other spirits exist, in the form of demonic spirits, who produce false
prophets and false teachers to propagate their false doctrine.

His readers would understand his point; Jewish people were familiar with
the idea of other spirits besides the Spirit of God. There were many
pagans in Asia Minor, as well as Jewish mystics claiming special
revelations; the need for discernment would be acute.[13]

? but ?a?test the spirits, Apply 1 Cor 14:29 ( 29? Let two or three
prophets speak, and ?t?let the others judge.[14] ). Also we are to be like
the Bereans and apply Acts 17:11 (?11? These were more ?4?fair-
minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all
readiness, and ?l?searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these
things were so.[15] ). Whatever anyone says who claims to be speaking
for the Lord must be tested by the Word of God.[16]

The word "test" is a term used for assaying metals to determine their
purity and value. Christians must test any teaching with a view to
approving or disapproving it rigorously comparing any teaching to the
Scripture. the spirits . many false prophets.

               By juxtaposing "spirits" with "false prophets" John reminds his
               readers that behind human teachers who propagate false
               doctrine and error are demons inspired by Satan. Human false
               prophets and teachers are the physical expressions of demonic,
               spiritual sources.

               (Matt. 7:15; Mark 13:22)
               [17]

It soon becomes clear that false teachers are causing trouble in the
community to which the author is writing (1 John 2:27; 4:1). These the
author labels as "antichrists" (1 John 2:18) and "false prophets". The
strength of these labels for the author's opponents indicates both the
depth of his feeling about them and also the seriousness of their departure
from the apostolic teaching about Jesus.

4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God. John gives a measuring stick to
determine whether the teacher or Pastor of the message is a demon spirit
or the Holy Spirit.

The tests are:

·            Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. This is the first test of a true
teacher: they  acknowledge and proclaim that Jesus is God incarnate in
human flesh.

o           Is the Virgin Birth important? It is essential!

·            Failure to confess Jesus reveals that one is not of God. By their
refusal to confess the truth about Jesus, these false prophets now
reveal their true colors.

·            John is fervent about the crucial importance of sound doctrine
expressed in God's Word as the only absolute and trustworthy
standard, as Gnostic thought had penetrated the church.

4:3 the spirit of the Antichrist. These false teachers who denied the true
nature of the Son are to be identified among the antichrists in 1 John
2:28,29.

·            Both the full humanity and full deity of Jesus must be equally
maintained by the teacher   or Pastor who is to be considered genuinely of
the Spirit. The Holy Spirit testifies to the true nature of the Son,
while Satan and his forces distort and deny that true nature.

o           Third reference to the spirit of "antichrist" (1 John 2:18, 22).

               The same demonic deception that will work to produce the
               final world who rules as the false Christ is always actively
               seeking to distort Jesus Christ's true nature, perverting the
               gospel. The final  Antichrist will not be something new,
               but will be the ultimate embodiment of all the antichrist spirits
               that have perverted truth and propagated satanic lies since the
               beginning.
               [18]

·            Both the full humanity and full deity of Jesus must be equally
maintained by the teacher   who is to be considered genuinely of the
Spirit. The Holy Spirit testifies to the true nature of the
Son, while Satan and his forces distort and deny that true nature.

o           Third reference to the spirit of "antichrist" (1 John 2:18, 22).

4:4 He who is in you is greater. Believers need to be aware and alert to
false teaching, but not afraid, since those who have experienced the new
birth with its indwelling of the Holy Spirit have a built-in check against
false teaching. The Holy Spirit leads into sound doctrine for genuine
Christians evidencing that salvation has actually occurred.  (Rom. 8:16-17
states  ?16? ?w?The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we
are children of God, ?17? and if children, then ?x?heirs-heirs of God
and joint heirs with Christ, ?y?if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may
also be glorified together.[19]).

               True believers have nothing to fear, for even Satan's hosts with
               their perversions can't take them out of the Lord's hand.
               Protection against error or victory over it are guaranteed by
               sound doctrine and the indwelling Holy Spirit who
               illumines the mind.
               [20]

Satan has two strategies:

·            Deny his existence; or
·            Overemphasize his capabilities.

4:5 they speak as of the world . He who knows God hears us. John
gives another test of a true teacher:

·            They speak God's word, and follow sound doctrine.

There are two Spirits, and every act is determined by either the spirit of
truth or the spirit of error.

4:6 By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. The OT and
NT are the sole standards by which all teaching is to be tested. In
contrast, demonically inspired teachers either reject the teaching of God's
Word or add elements to it (as the apostle Paul writes in: 2 Cor. 4:2; and
John in Rev. 22:18,19).

This is similar parallelism to what Jesus had to say: (?25? Jesus answered
them, "?I told you, and you do not believe. ?u?The works that I do in My
Father's name, they ?v?bear witness of Me. ?26? But ?w?you do not
believe, because you are not of My sheep, ?5?as I said to you. ?27?
?x?My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.)[21]

Those who are like-minded and affirm the world's message are from the
world, and, likewise, those who affirm the message that Christ came in the
flesh are of God. Whoever "knows God listens to us," and he is attracted
to John's message because of his abiding commitment and relationship to
the true God.

==

ERROR

           The Hebrew words translated "error" suggest inadvertent sins and
           wandering. The NT concept is expressed in the Greek word
           plane, derived from a root that also means "to wander." The
           biblical image is of a person who has lost his way and is deluded
           or deceived about reality.
           James puts Scripture's view of truth and error in perspective in the
           last verses of his letter: "My brothers, if one of you should wander
           from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this:
           Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him
           from death and cover over a multitude of sins" (Jas 5:19-20).[22]

==
Satan has sought to distort and deny God's Word, and is behind all false
teachers and false doctrine. John gives two doctrinal tests to determine
truth from error and false teachers from true teachers.

Satan has become an obvious reality and is now worshiped openly. Much
of this is taking place on or near our college campuses. What a few years
ago was considered to be way out in left field today exists out in the open.
A report came from Florida that a young boy of only seventeen years of
age was murdered, and they found that it was done to appease Satan.

Don't be taken in by everyone who comes along and says that he is a
Christian, because many of them are not. Pray for God's wisdom and
discernment.

==

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a 3 John 11
b Jer 29:8; 1 Cor 12:10; 1 Thess 5:20f; 2 Thess 2:2
c Jer 14:14; 2 Pet 2:1; 1 John 2:18
a 1 Cor 12:3
b 1 John 2:23
c John 1:14; 1 John 1:2
a 1 John 2:22; 2 John 7
b 1 John 2:18, 22
c 2 Thess 2:3-7; 1 John 2:18
a 1 John 2:1
b 1 John 2:13
c Rom 8:31; 1 John 3:20
d John 12:31
a John 15:19; 17:14, 16
a John 8:23; 1 John 4:4
b John 8:47; 10:3ff; 18:37
c 1 Cor 14:37
d John 14:17
e 1 Tim 4:1

[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Jn 4:1).
LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.

[2]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1628).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

? 5 (4:3) The NU text omits the second "that" and "Christ has come in the
flesh."

[3]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible
Commentary : Old and New Testaments (1 Jn 4:1). Nashville: Thomas
Nelson.

?a? Is 64:4; 65:17

[4]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Co 2:9).
LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.

?1? One early ms reads But
?a? Matt 11:25; 13:11; 16:17; Gal 1:12; Eph 3:3, 5
?b? John 14:26
?c? Rom 11:33ff
?a? Prov 20:27
?a? Rom 8:15
?b? 1 Cor 1:27
?a? 1 Cor 1:17; 2:1, 4
?1? Or interpreting spiritual things forspiritual men
?1? Or an unspiritual
?a? 1 Cor 15:44, 46; James 3:15; Jude 19 mg
?b? John 14:17
?c? 1 Cor 1:18
?2? Or examined
?a? 1 Cor 3:1; 14:37; Gal 6:1
?a? Is 40:13; Rom 11:34
?b? John 15:15

[5]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Co 2:10).
LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.

[6]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (Page
1017). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[7]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (Page
1017). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[8]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (Page
1017). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[9]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (Page
1017). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[10]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (Page
1018). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[11]MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible
(electronic ed.) (1 Co 2:12). Nashville: Word Pub.

[12]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 (1 Jn 4:1). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.

a ?1 Cor. 14:29?
b ?Matt. 24:5?
c [?Rom. 10:8-10?]; ?1 Cor. 12:3?; ?1 John 5:1?
1 NU omits that
2 NU omits Christ has come in the flesh
d ?John 14:30?; ?16:11?
e ?John 3:31?
f ?John 15:19?; ?17:14?
g [?1 Cor. 2:12-16?]

[13]Keener, C. S., & InterVarsity Press. (1993). The IVP Bible
background commentary : New Testament (1 Jn 4:1). Downers Grove,
Ill.: InterVarsity Press.

a ?1 Cor. 14:29?
t ?1 Cor. 12:10?

[14]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 (1 Co 14:29). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.

4 Lit. noble

l ?Is. 34:16?; ?Luke 16:29?; ?John 5:39?

[15]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 (Ac 17:11). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.

[16]Wiersbe, W. W. (1996, c1995). Be decisive. An Old testament
study. (Je 23:9). Wheaton, Ill.: Victor Books.

[17]MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible
(electronic ed.) (1 Jn 4:1). Nashville: Word Pub.

[18]MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible
(electronic ed.) (1 Jn 4:3). Nashville: Word Pub.

w ?Eph. 1:13?
x ?Acts 26:18?
y ?Phil. 1:29?

[19]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 (Ro 8:16). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.

[20]MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible
(electronic ed.) (1 Jn 4:4). Nashville: Word Pub.

u ?John 5:36?; ?10:38?
v ?Matt. 11:4?; ?John 2:11?; ?20:30?
w [?John 8:47?]
5 NU omits as I said to you
x ?John 10:4?, ?14?

[21]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 (Jn 10:25). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.

[22] Richards, Lawrence O.  New International Encyclopedia of Bible
Words, (Zondervan Publishing House Grand Rapids, Michigan),
Copyright © 1985, 1991.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Feb 2007 02:31 GMT
> demon wrote:
> >> > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> The Spirit of Error!

Simply the mindless and purposeless chatter of evil spirits.

Their eventual annihilation is certain.

Meanwhile their continued presence serves to show that creatures of
darkness do not have the free will to resist being attracted to the
light of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, shining forth from HIS
brethren.

May the non-christians reading this wisely surrender to GOD by
publicly confessing that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

... before the world as they know it possibly ends on 03/03/07 if the
prophecy of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ is realized with the
realization of the lunar eclipse as predicted by astronomers.

Andrew <><
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http://EmoryCardiology.com
Art Deco - 19 Feb 2007 06:32 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> demon wrote:
>> >> convicted neighbor "Kadaitcha Man"
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>prophecy of the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ is realized with the
>realization of the lunar eclipse as predicted by astronomers.

Translation:  "Get yer fire insurance here!  Hurry before the
CHUNGAGEDDON hits!"

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Kumar - 19 Feb 2007 07:29 GMT
On Feb 19, 7:31 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> > demon wrote:
> > >> > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

>From Christianity:
*Jesus said, "Whoever is not against us is for us." Mark 9:40 (NIV)

*"Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone
who loves is born of God and knows God." 1 John 4:7 (NRSV)

*The Apostle Peter wrote of God: "He is patient with you, not wanting
anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
(NIV)

*"And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many
publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why
eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard
that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but
they that are sick." Matthew 9:10-12 (KJV)

*Jesus said, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love
thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and
pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye
may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh
his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the
just and on the unjust." Matthew 5:43-45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_faith
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Feb 2007 19:30 GMT
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the
> just and on the unjust." Matthew 5:43-45

Suggested reading:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/428bfebb92efed28?

Andrew <><
--
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http://EmoryCardiology.com
Kurt Gavin - 19 Feb 2007 23:52 GMT
http://www.evilbible.com/

It's a good website, a lot of research showing what sick garbage the bible
is filled with.

Extract:
Welcome to the EvilBible.com Web Site

   This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible.
For far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious
criminal acts that the Bible promotes.  The so called "God" of the Bible
makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout.  This God, according to the
Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage,
plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of
unborn children.  I have included references to the Biblical passages, so
grab your Bible and follow along.  You can also follow along with on-line
Bibles such as BibleStudyTools.net or SkepticsAnnotatedBible.com.

   It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of
innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said "Thou shall not kill".
For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census
of the people (1 Chronicles 21).  God also orders the destruction of 60
cities so that the Israelites can live there.  He orders the killing of all
the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
(Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of "all the
living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen
sheep, and a.ses" (Joshua 6).  In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the
people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be
forcibly raped and married.  When they wanted more virgins, God told them to
hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and
forcibly rape her and make her your wife!  Just about every other page in
the Old Testament has God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders
the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own
church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another
1,862,265 people murdered.

   The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own
daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and
Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms
137:9).

   This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.  Murder,
rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by
saying that some god says it's OK.  If more people would actually sit down
and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.

   Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to
go to heaven:  "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's
womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are
eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He
that is able to receive it, let him receive it."  (Matthew 19:12 ASV)  I
don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally
tells all men to cut off their privates.

   The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and
animal sacrifice.

   And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the
Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus
makes it perfectly clear:   "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away
than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."
(Luke 16:17 NAB)  There are many more quotes on this topic at my "Do Not
Ignore the Old Testament" web page.

   I know that most Christians believe that God is a good and loving god,
and wants people to do good things.  I believe that most people want to do
good things and behave morally.  I also believe that many Christians haven't
really read the Bible, or just read certain passages in church.  This is
understandable, as the Bible is hard to read due to its archaic language and
obscure references.  Also many priests and preachers don't like to read
certain passages in the Bible because they present a message of hate not
love.

   If you follow the links on the left side of this page you will learn
about all the nasty things in the Bible that are usually not talked about by
priests and preachers.  You can also discuss things related to this web site
or religion and atheism in general at the EvilBible.com Discussion Forum.
Kurt Gavin - 20 Feb 2007 02:47 GMT
<snip chung garbage>

American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America (Hardcover)
by Chris Hedges (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284437/re
f=cm_cr-mr-title/102-7468635-1478502


Book Description
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists
first spoke of the United States becoming a Christian nation that would
build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic
rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but
poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedom and our way of life. In
American Fascists, Chris Hedges, veteran journalist and author of the
National Book Award finalist War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning,
challenges the Christian Right's religious legitimacy and argues that at its
core it is a mass movement fueled by unbridled nationalism and a hatred for
the open society.

Hedges, who grew up in rural parishes in upstate New York where his father
was a Presbyterian pastor, attacks the movement as someone steeped in the
Bible and Christian tradition. He points to the hundreds of senators and
members of Congress who have earned between 80 and 100 percent approval
ratings from the three most influential Christian Right advocacy groups as
one of many signs that the movement is burrowing deep inside the American
government to subvert it. The movement's call to dismantle the wall between
church and state and the intolerance it preaches against all who do not
conform to its warped vision of a Christian America are pumped into tens of
millions of American homes through Christian television and radio stations,
as well as reinforced through the curriculum in Christian schools. The
movement's yearning for apocalyptic violence and its assault on
dispassionate, intellectual inquiry are laying the foundation for a new,
frightening America.

American Fascists, which includes interviews and coverage of events such as
pro-life rallies and weeklong classes on conversion techniques, examines the
movement's origins, its driving motivations and its dark ideological
underpinnings. Hedges argues that the movement currently resembles the young
fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s, movements that
often masked the full extent of their drive for totalitarianism and were
willing to make concessions until they achieved unrivaled power. The
Christian Right, like these early fascist movements, does not openly call
for dictatorship, nor does it use

physical violence to suppress opposition. In short, the movement is not yet
revolutionary. But the ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is
being cemented in place. The movement has roused its followers to a fever
pitch of despair and fury. All it will take, Hedges writes, is one more
national crisis on the order of September 11 for the Christian Right to make
a concerted drive to destroy American democracy. The movement awaits a
crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly
are -- the American heirs to fascism. Hedges issues a potent, impassioned
warning. We face an imminent threat. His book reminds us of the dangers
liberal, democratic societies face when they tolerate the intolerant.
Kurt Gavin - 19 Feb 2007 16:46 GMT
Start healing youyrself chunkers;

http://www.evilbible.com/
the_Host - 20 Feb 2007 01:54 GMT
Without God, man would not know what sin is...

Host.

> > demon wrote:
> > >> > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Feb 2007 06:55 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Without God, man would not know what sin is...

GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform you so that you know even
though you are without HIM.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Kurt Gavin - 20 Feb 2007 13:39 GMT
<snip chung garbage>

American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America (Hardcover)
by Chris Hedges (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284437/re
f=cm_cr-mr-title/102-7468635-1478502


Book Description
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists
first spoke of the United States becoming a Christian nation that would
build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic
rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but
poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedom and our way of life. In
American Fascists, Chris Hedges, veteran journalist and author of the
National Book Award finalist War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning,
challenges the Christian Right's religious legitimacy and argues that at its
core it is a mass movement fueled by unbridled nationalism and a hatred for
the open society.

Hedges, who grew up in rural parishes in upstate New York where his father
was a Presbyterian pastor, attacks the movement as someone steeped in the
Bible and Christian tradition. He points to the hundreds of senators and
members of Congress who have earned between 80 and 100 percent approval
ratings from the three most influential Christian Right advocacy groups as
one of many signs that the movement is burrowing deep inside the American
government to subvert it. The movement's call to dismantle the wall between
church and state and the intolerance it preaches against all who do not
conform to its warped vision of a Christian America are pumped into tens of
millions of American homes through Christian television and radio stations,
as well as reinforced through the curriculum in Christian schools. The
movement's yearning for apocalyptic violence and its assault on
dispassionate, intellectual inquiry are laying the foundation for a new,
frightening America.

American Fascists, which includes interviews and coverage of events such as
pro-life rallies and weeklong classes on conversion techniques, examines the
movement's origins, its driving motivations and its dark ideological
underpinnings. Hedges argues that the movement currently resembles the young
fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s, movements that
often masked the full extent of their drive for totalitarianism and were
willing to make concessions until they achieved unrivaled power. The
Christian Right, like these early fascist movements, does not openly call
for dictatorship, nor does it use

physical violence to suppress opposition. In short, the movement is not yet
revolutionary. But the ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is
being cemented in place. The movement has roused its followers to a fever
pitch of despair and fury. All it will take, Hedges writes, is one more
national crisis on the order of September 11 for the Christian Right to make
a concerted drive to destroy American democracy. The movement awaits a
crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly
are -- the American heirs to fascism. Hedges issues a potent, impassioned
warning. We face an imminent threat. His book reminds us of the dangers
liberal, democratic societies face when they tolerate the intolerant.
the_Host - 20 Feb 2007 15:21 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

The Holy Spirit lifts me up Andrew.

And you HAVE read the New Testament, right?

Remember what it says about those who do not know that law?
They are still subject to it, they just don't know it.

Anyway I wish you the best that the Holy Spirit can provide.
Go in peace,
Host.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Feb 2007 18:24 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> The Holy Spirit lifts me up Andrew.

That would be my wish for you.

> And you HAVE read the New Testament, right?

Yes.

> Remember what it says about those who do not know that law?
> They are still subject to it, they just don't know it.

Correct.

> Anyway I wish you the best that the Holy Spirit can provide.

GOD has and continues to bless me more than those who are of this
world could ever possibly know.

> Go in peace,
> Host.

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
malscribe - 20 Feb 2007 18:35 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD farted out this reeking cloud:

> May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
> your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

Already did that; nothing happened.  Why is that, Chung?  Is it maybe
because Jesus doesn't exist anywhere except in diseased minds like yours?
Father Haskell - 20 Feb 2007 19:03 GMT
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD farted out this reeking cloud:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Already did that; nothing happened.  Why is that, Chung?  Is it maybe
> because Jesus doesn't exist anywhere except in diseased minds like yours?

Did he attempt to falsify -- did he *also* confess that "Satan
is LORD?"  Any *honest* xian scientist would.
malscribe - 20 Feb 2007 20:10 GMT
Father Haskell farted out this reeking cloud:

>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD farted out this reeking cloud:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Did he attempt to falsify -- did he *also* confess that "Satan
> is LORD?"  Any *honest* xian scientist would.

No, if you use "Satan" and "LORD" in the same sentence, then Jesus will
send you straight to f.cking hell to dogpaddle in a bottomless ocean of
orange-hot lava for eternity.  Because He loves you.
Phÿltêr - 21 Feb 2007 20:06 GMT
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD farted out this reeking cloud:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Did he attempt to falsify -- did he *also* confess that "Satan
> is LORD?"  Any *honest* xian scientist would.

"*honest* xian scientist"???
ROFLMAO!!

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Kurt Gavin - 20 Feb 2007 18:42 GMT
<snip chung garbage>

American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America (Hardcover)
by Chris Hedges (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284437/re
f=cm_cr-mr-title/102-7468635-1478502


Book Description
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists
first spoke of the United States becoming a Christian nation that would
build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic
rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but
poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedom and our way of life. In
American Fascists, Chris Hedges, veteran journalist and author of the
National Book Award finalist War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning,
challenges the Christian Right's religious legitimacy and argues that at its
core it is a mass movement fueled by unbridled nationalism and a hatred for
the open society.

Hedges, who grew up in rural parishes in upstate New York where his father
was a Presbyterian pastor, attacks the movement as someone steeped in the
Bible and Christian tradition. He points to the hundreds of senators and
members of Congress who have earned between 80 and 100 percent approval
ratings from the three most influential Christian Right advocacy groups as
one of many signs that the movement is burrowing deep inside the American
government to subvert it. The movement's call to dismantle the wall between
church and state and the intolerance it preaches against all who do not
conform to its warped vision of a Christian America are pumped into tens of
millions of American homes through Christian television and radio stations,
as well as reinforced through the curriculum in Christian schools. The
movement's yearning for apocalyptic violence and its assault on
dispassionate, intellectual inquiry are laying the foundation for a new,
frightening America.

American Fascists, which includes interviews and coverage of events such as
pro-life rallies and weeklong classes on conversion techniques, examines the
movement's origins, its driving motivations and its dark ideological
underpinnings. Hedges argues that the movement currently resembles the young
fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s, movements that
often masked the full extent of their drive for totalitarianism and were
willing to make concessions until they achieved unrivaled power. The
Christian Right, like these early fascist movements, does not openly call
for dictatorship, nor does it use

physical violence to suppress opposition. In short, the movement is not yet
revolutionary. But the ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is
being cemented in place. The movement has roused its followers to a fever
pitch of despair and fury. All it will take, Hedges writes, is one more
national crisis on the order of September 11 for the Christian Right to make
a concerted drive to destroy American democracy. The movement awaits a
crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly
are -- the American heirs to fascism. Hedges issues a potent, impassioned
warning. We face an imminent threat. His book reminds us of the dangers
liberal, democratic societies face when they tolerate the intolerant.
Art Deco - 21 Feb 2007 04:45 GMT
False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > demon wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Another entry on the hate list.  That didn't take long, Chung.

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Mistylien - 21 Feb 2007 07:19 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
snip>

>> Without God, man would not know what sin is...

In the New Testament (witness),  Paul tells us that
it is the law that informs us what sin is.
It is the law given that shows us what sin is.
Sin is the trngression of the Law.

Read more of it in the New testament letters of Paul.

Romans 7:7 ff

M,

> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform you so that you know even
> though you are without HIM.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
The Secretary of HomIntern - 07 Feb 2007 22:32 GMT
> Meat Plow barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> NO!!  Chung, don't listen to his crazy talk -- you stay RIGHT HERE on
> Usenet and try to convert the heathens.  M'kay?

Now, now, how many times does Chungy-Wungy have to explain this? He's
not trying to "convert"; he's trying to *inform*. Isn't that so much
more special?

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malscribe - 07 Feb 2007 19:01 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:

> It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.

It is obvious to the most casual observer that GOD exists nowhere but in
the diseased minds of people like you.
Kadaitcha Man - 07 Feb 2007 20:28 GMT
malscribe <writer@rotted.pencil> Thou pernicious caitiff. What a
wretched and peevish fellow is this King. Thou putrefying coistrel. Thou
ill-begotten old pantaloon. Ye boiled and ye bubbled:  

> It is obvious to the most casual observer that GOD exists nowhere but
> in the diseased minds of people like you.

Oh look at that; an existentially positive claim requiring proof.

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"remember that th [sic] head toecutter has quarter million confirmed
kadaitcha man kills ok" - the land surfer

Fuckwitted alt.atheism atheist to Kadaitcha Man:
"Imagine if I were to suggest "I have a prehensile tail". You
would, naturally, ask for evidence."

Kadaitcha Man in reply to fuckwitted alt.atheism atheist:
"Not at all. I would unquestionably accept your admission to being
a monkey."

"I have forgotten more about IT than both you sorry bitches combined."
DUHane Arnold in <r_myh.20067$yx6.64@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>

Thou gossip. Thou frump.

Cardinal Snarky of the Fannish Inquisition - 08 Feb 2007 00:52 GMT
> malscribe <writer@rotted.pencil> Thou pernicious caitiff. What a wretched
> and peevish fellow is this King. Thou putrefying coistrel. Thou
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Oh look at that; an existentially positive claim requiring proof.

You think his existence in the minds of people like Chung needs to be
proven, too?</innocently>

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>> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about?
>
> Probably. I'm the one who doesn't resort to forgery after losing an
> argument.

"You're the one with the extensive brain damage... okay I see. You're
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cop posing as an underage person online?
I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much.
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awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the
public.
They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an
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Lost control, didn't you?
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Kadaitcha Man - 08 Feb 2007 03:57 GMT
Cardinal Snarky of the Fannish Inquisition <inquisition@smof.org> Thou
grotesque presumptuous dame. Thou loggerheaded quantity. Thou indigested
lump. Thou surfeiter. Ye reported and ye quacked:  

>> malscribe <writer@rotted.pencil> Thou pernicious caitiff. What a
>> wretched and peevish fellow is this King. Thou putrefying coistrel.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> You think his existence in the minds of people like Chung needs to be
> proven, too?</innocently>

Shhhh! Let 'im settle. Let 'im settle. The question of proof of his own
existence his encore.

>>> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID:
> <H%%Eg.28916$Uq1.22411@bignews6.bellsouth.net>

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kadaitcha man kills ok" - the land surfer

Fuckwitted alt.atheism atheist to Kadaitcha Man:
"Imagine if I were to suggest "I have a prehensile tail". You
would, naturally, ask for evidence."

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"Not at all. I would unquestionably accept your admission to being
a monkey."

"I have forgotten more about IT than both you sorry bitches combined."
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Mu - 08 Feb 2007 09:41 GMT
>> Science also consider godless universe a possibility. But by who's will?
>
> Science has no free will to consider anything.
>
> It is obvious to the most casual observer that a universe without GOD
> is impossible just as a house without its builder is impossible.

Science, so that is the Master of Knowledge. Between what science knows
(and even scientists can't agree) and the amount of unknown, the chasm
is so great as to be impossible to gauge.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 Feb 2007 09:52 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> (and even scientists can't agree) and the amount of unknown, the chasm
> is so great as to be impossible to gauge.

A scientist's lament is that for every question answered, many more
takes its place.

Laus Deo ! ! !

Andrew <><
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Archie Leach - 07 Feb 2007 18:31 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Clearly

You remain a liar and a sinner.

Without your admission that you sin, just about everything you say is
meaningless.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 Feb 2007 19:06 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> You remain a liar

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

Bearing false witness against another is a sin.

And, so the prophecy of Matthew 7:1-2 is again realized here on
usenet.

> and a sinner.

One who has stopped sinning with GOD's help.

Laus Deo ! ! !

"With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !   Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

> Without your admission that you sin, just about everything you say is
> meaningless.

Actually, those who continue to sin are without the LORD and for this
reason, everything about you is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Andrew <><
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malscribe - 07 Feb 2007 19:14 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD barfed up this disgusting mess:

>> You remain a liar
>
> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

Just the other day you claimed to never sin.  That was a lie.

> Bearing false witness against another is a sin.

Oh look, you just sinned.  Again.

>> and a sinner.
>
> One who has stopped sinning with GOD's help.

And there's the lie, repeated.

Looking forward to being Satan's chewtoy, Chung?
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN! - 07 Feb 2007 23:10 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> you where born in sin,chunks,so sayeth the bible you love to hurl so much.
so that makes you a liar=SINNER!
hmmmn-ol chunks is goin to hell.
he needs to put himself on his hate list-right at the top of the page.

now chunkers-GO SUCK THE COCK OF CHRIST!
Father Haskell - 08 Feb 2007 07:48 GMT
On Feb 7, 2:06 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

...except on Usenet.
Lars Eighner - 08 Feb 2007 10:56 GMT
Nonsense.  Without god(s) there is no such thing as sin.  There is, of
course, right and wrong, as people very well know, but the purpose of god(s)
is/are to get people to do what they know is wrong or to refrain from doing
what they know is right.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 Feb 2007 11:43 GMT
> Nonsense.  Without god(s) there is no such thing as sin.

By definition, sin is doing that which is contrary to the perfect will
of GOD.

You are either with HIM (right) or you are without (wrong).

> There is, of
> course, right and wrong, as people very well know

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.

HE is the Source of all righteousness.

Without HIM, a person is never right and always wrong.

Without HIM, Simon Peter caught no fish but with HIM (i.e. standing on
the right side), the fish was plentiful.

> , but the purpose of god(s)
> is/are to get people to do what they know is wrong or to refrain from doing
> what they know is right.

Without HIM, a person knows nothing.

LORD Almighty GOD is the Source of all true knowledge and wisdom.

HE is the Author of all reality.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to present yourself as evidence for the truth, Who is LORD Jesus
Christ, that those without HIM have no true knowledge.

Laus Deo ! ! !

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! ! !   Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !

This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not diabetes) that is of this
world:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with your mouth that "Jesus is
LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a great deal more, dear
neighbor Lars whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Pastor Kutchie - 08 Feb 2007 12:58 GMT
On Feb 8,  4:43 am, Earthquack wrote:

> > Nonsense.  Without god(s) there is no such thing as sin.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> HE is the Source of all righteousness.

Hahahahaha! Earthquack must live in a 5ft 5 in deep hole. Everything
goes over his head.
Father Haskell - 19 Feb 2007 23:59 GMT
(Support groups snipped and replaced with alt.flame.jesus.christ,
as is the will of allah, peace be upon him)

On Feb 8, 6:43 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > Nonsense.  Without god(s) there is no such thing as sin.
>
> By definition, sin is doing that which is contrary to the perfect will
> of GOD.

Which means sin can't exist, either.

> You are either with HIM (right) or you are without (wrong).

FUBAR as usual.
Father Haskell - 19 Feb 2007 23:51 GMT
On Feb 2, 5:43 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
> soul, mind, and strength:

So said the lamb as it marched up the ramp to slaughter,
head held high.
Cary Kittrell - 20 Feb 2007 00:04 GMT
> On Feb 2, 5:43 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> So said the lamb as it marched up the ramp to slaughter,
> head held high.

If that phrase strikes you as familiar, it may be because Andrew
has informed us the the Reverend Fred Phelps also loves god
with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength.

The intersting part comes in when you realize that Andrew thinks
that America is immaculately performing God's will, while Fred Phelps
informs us that "GOD HATES AMERICA", and that having moved
past any hope of ever being remeedmed back into God's
good graces, America is fit only for wrathful destruction.

Isn't that interesting?

-- cary
Father Haskell - 20 Feb 2007 00:26 GMT
> In article <1171929071.471672.134...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> has informed us the the Reverend Fred Phelps also loves god
> with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength.

That transcends creepy.  Ever checked out Phelps'
eyes? Same stare as a crazed serial killer before he
slices your larynx in two.

> The intersting part comes in when you realize that Andrew thinks
> that America is immaculately performing God's will, while Fred
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Isn't that interesting?

The two of them need to get together for lunch sometime.
 
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