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Putting on weight
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Nel - 22 Sep 2006 03:36 GMT Hi, Can anyone tell me how to put some weight on? I have polymyalgia and I've lost about 14 lbs. I didn't need to loss any. I eat more than I ever did, but doesn't seem to help.. I'm also on prednisone.... Thanks....Nel
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Sep 2006 03:50 GMT > Hi, > Can anyone tell me how to put some weight on? Eat more.
> I have polymyalgia and I've > lost about 14 lbs. I didn't need to loss any. I eat more than I ever did, > but doesn't seem to help.. > I'm also on prednisone.... Prednisone causes some people to lose their appetite.
Without appetite, it can seem as though you are eating more when you are actually eating less. Nonetheless, you should inform your doctor(s) about the unintentionaly weight loss.
> Thanks You are welcome, Nel :-)
All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
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Don Kirkman - 22 Sep 2006 08:21 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <1158893445.284827.170760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
>> Hi, >> Can anyone tell me how to put some weight on?
>Eat more.
>> I have polymyalgia and I've >> lost about 14 lbs. I didn't need to loss any. I eat more than I ever did, >> but doesn't seem to help.. >> I'm also on prednisone....
>Prednisone causes some people to lose their appetite. [Begin]
Side Effects of This Medicine [Corticosteroids Glucocorticoid Effects (Systemic)]
[. . .]
Other side effects may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. However, check with your doctor if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome:
More common
Increased appetite; indigestion; loss of appetite (for triamcinolone only); nervousness or restlessness [End] http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202018.html
[Begin] Increased appetite and weight gain. Prednisone increases your appetite. Follow a diet to maintain your weight. Develop an eating schedule and stick to it. If you eat when you feel hungry, you will be eating all the time. [End] http://www.myasthenia.org/information/Prednisone.htm
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Sep 2006 11:49 GMT > Andrew wrote: > >> Hi, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Increased appetite; indigestion; loss of appetite Correct.
> (for triamcinolone only); (incorrect).
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating dear neighbor Don whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
Don Kirkman - 23 Sep 2006 00:07 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <1158922196.714252.273640@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
>> Andrew wrote:
>> >Prednisone causes some people to lose their appetite.
>> [Begin]
>> Side Effects of This Medicine [Corticosteroids Glucocorticoid Effects >> (Systemic)]
>> [. . .]
>> Other side effects may occur that usually do not need medical attention. >> These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to >> the medicine. However, check with your doctor if any of the following >> side effects continue or are bothersome:
>> More common
>> Increased appetite; indigestion; loss of appetite
>Correct.
>> (for triamcinolone only);
>(incorrect). Sorry, your argument is with the NIH (which I clearly cited - http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202018.html), not with me. Besides, you were giving bad information about prednisone, not triamcinolone.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Sep 2006 00:49 GMT > Andrew wrote: > >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202018.html), > not with me. The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to argue.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Don whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
Jeff - 23 Sep 2006 02:21 GMT > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > article <1158893445.284827.170760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > [End] > http://www.myasthenia.org/information/Prednisone.htm Don's correct. Prednisone usually increases appetite. Weight gain is a common side-effect.
You can increase the number of calories in the food you do eat. You can do things like put butter on your vegetables, eat Oreos with your milk (I always dunk), and drink drinks like ensure.
However, you should also touch base with your doctor. You should be gaining weight, considering you are taking a drug that causes most people to gain weight, especially when you are eating more than ever before.
Jeff
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Sep 2006 04:24 GMT > > Andrew wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > Increased appetite; indigestion; **loss of appetite** (for triamcinolone **emphasis** added.
> > only); nervousness or restlessness > > [End] [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Don's correct. Actually, the words are not Don's.
> Prednisone usually increases appetite. Correct is your implication that prednisone causes a decrease in appetite in some people.
See **emphasis**.
What is written in parenthesis following the **emphasis** that only triamcinolone can cause loss of appetite is wrong.
May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear neighbor Jeff whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
Don Kirkman - 23 Sep 2006 20:34 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <1158981865.786268.294240@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
>> > Andrew wrote:
>> >>> Hi, >> >>> Can anyone tell me how to put some weight on?
>> >>Eat more.
>> >>> I have polymyalgia and I've >> >>> lost about 14 lbs. I didn't need to loss any. I eat more than I ever >> >>> did, >> >>> but doesn't seem to help.. >> >>> I'm also on prednisone....
>> >>Prednisone causes some people to lose their appetite.
>> > [Begin]
>> > Side Effects of This Medicine [Corticosteroids Glucocorticoid Effects >> > (Systemic)]
>> > [. . .]
>> > Other side effects may occur that usually do not need medical attention. >> > These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to >> > the medicine. However, check with your doctor if any of the following >> > side effects continue or are bothersome:
>> > More common
>> > Increased appetite; indigestion; **loss of appetite** (for triamcinolone
>**emphasis** added. Meaningless. Nobody mentioned triamcinolone until it appeared in the citation I quoted. YOU specifically said prednisone reduces appetite. I responded with one citation about the corticosteroids **in general** increasing appetite (thus including prednisone). I then added a second quote specifically stating that prednisone increases appetite.
You are a dishonest person and a danger to any patients you may ever have, if you can pass out false medical information and refuse to admit error when corrected.
>> Don's correct.
>Actually, the words are not Don's. Nobody said they were; Jeff simply noted that I had corrected your egregious medical error.
>> Prednisone usually increases appetite.
>Correct is your implication that prednisone causes a decrease in >appetite in some people. There was no such implication either by Jeff or by me. There were explicit statements that the opposite is correct.
>See **emphasis**.
>What is written in parenthesis following the **emphasis** that only >triamcinolone can cause loss of appetite is wrong. Then as I wrote, your opinion differs from both the NIH and the mysasthenia.org site. IMO the credibility lies with the experts, not with you. Anecdotal evidence is full of reports from patients that they eat more when on prednisone and eat less and lose weight when they go off it. If you were a doctor seeing patients with relevant disorders you would not have made the error you did.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Sep 2006 21:46 GMT > Andrew wrote: > >> > Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Meaningless. Not for the OP who was searching for a way to gain weight thereby indicating unexplained weightloss.
Again, In truth, some folks have a loss of appetite when they are taking prednisone while most have an increase in appetite.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Don whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
Nel - 24 Sep 2006 02:56 GMT Thank you everyone for your answers. It could be the Polymyalgia that is causing the weight loss. I think I'm about come to a stand still at 120 lbs..I hope so, cause I'm 5'6 1/2" and I sure don't need to lose any more...I see my Dr. every two weeks. Thanks again......Nel
>> Andrew wrote: >> >> > Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97? jd - 02 Oct 2006 07:42 GMT remeron causes a lot of people to gain weight. as do most neuroleptics. Stimulants can cause weight gain in some, but cause weight loss in most. A pain old ssri like prozac might cause you to gain weight as well.
> Thank you everyone for your answers. > It could be the Polymyalgia that is causing the weight loss. I think I'm [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Oct 2006 08:56 GMT > remeron causes a lot of people to gain weight. as do most neuroleptics. > Stimulants can cause weight gain in some, but cause weight loss in most. A > pain old ssri like prozac might cause you to gain weight as well. Things that make you healthier... are things that will make you hungrier.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Jamie whom love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97?
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