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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / September 2006Love thy atheist neighbor Rosie O'Donnell: May GOD heal her heart.
The following is from a brother in Christ: --Begin Forwarded Message-- Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends. O'Donnell on ABC: 'Radical Christians' no different than murderous radical Muslims Neither O'Donnell nor ABC has apologized. ABC's Rosie O'Donnell told a nationwide audience this week that "radical Christians" are the same as radical Muslims who piloted hijacked jetliners into New York's Twin Towers, who chop off the heads of individuals and who bomb innocent children in suicide attacks. O'Donnell made her comments as host of ABC's "The View." "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state," O'Donnell said. She had been saying that America was attacked "not by a nation." She continued: "And as a result of the attack and the killing of 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people." Even her liberal co-hosts were shocked by her comments. Co-host Joy Behar protested that Christians are not trying to impose mass murder on America. "This group (radical Muslims) is threatening to kill us." Replied O'Donnell: "No, but we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?" O'Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus. Neither O'Donnell nor ABC apologized for the comments. Had she made similar comments about minorities or homosexuals, there would have been an apology, and she would have probably been fired. The message from ABC is that bashing Christians is acceptable, even comparing them with murderers who kill in the name of Allah. Take Action Tell ABC that O'Donnell's comments deserve an apology and a reprimand. 1. Send the email to ABC asking for an apology and a reprimand. 2. Forward this to your friends and family, and ask them to send the email to ABC. Brian Frons - netaudr@abc.com or Brian Frons, President, ABC Daytime ABC 47 West 66th St. New York, NY 10023-6298 Primary Phone: 212-456-7777 Fax: 212-456-1424 --End Forwarded Message-- May GOD forgive neighbor Rosie O'Donnell, whom I love uncondtionally, for she does not have control over her tongue. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? P.S. Just called the 212-467-7777 number and spoke to Pandora with ABC. Be sure to say it is personal since the concerns you have are personal in nature since LORD Jesus Christ is your personal Savior. > The following is from a brother in Christ: > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > Be sure to say it is personal since the concerns you have are personal > in nature since LORD Jesus Christ is your personal Savior. sensi: In my view Rosie has a right to have her view. I can kind of see her point. Many times Christians play the role of I'm better than you, haha, always with that tone of arrogance that is no different than the tone of arrogance a Muslim might use with the same I'm better than you haha attitude.. The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or even Allah to promote the unnecessary attitude on both sides. Wars are fought over who is the 'better man" with the best ideas of God and God supposedly favors the man with the best idea of truth but turns out truth is not about who is has best idea in all the land.. Truth is about loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are Muslim and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only adds fuel to the fire, vice versa. I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God heal their heart," of which they're not that crazy about you telling them their heart is worse off than yours. See,you're setting up a pattern of arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but it's *your* view of them. Sensi > Andrew wrote: > > The following is from a brother in Christ: [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > sensi: > In my view Rosie has a right to have her view. No one has written that she does not have such a right. > I can kind of see her point. Many times Christians play the role of I'm > better than you, haha, always with that tone of arrogance that is no > different than the tone of arrogance a Muslim might use with the same I'm > better than you haha attitude.. The attitude of the terrorists engaged in acts of terror is on an entirely different level from the "radical Christians" who annoy you by their being open about their relationship with the risen Christ Jesus. > The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when > playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only > adds fuel to the fire, vice versa. Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ. > I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say > what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God > heal their heart," Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself. > of which they're not that crazy about you telling them > their heart is worse off than yours. It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being heaped on their heads. > See,you're setting up a pattern of > arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but > it's *your* view of them. The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD. May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? P.S. The fax number 212-456-1424 works too. >> Andrew wrote: >> > The following is from a brother in Christ: [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > entirely different level from the "radical Christians" who annoy you by > their being open about their relationship with the risen Christ Jesus. sensi: I think what annoys people is not so much our relationship with Jesus Christ, it's how the relationship is often smeared like mud in others faces. As far as terroist acts I'm not blaming Christians for that but I do see a typical across the board attitude that Christians think they're better people. God's chosen and when you talk chosen and try to exlude others it only causes conflict. The conflict grows and grows into hatred, hatred begets fear, fear begets action and it becomes a war of who is God's chosen? >> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when >> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is > LORD Jesus Christ. sensi: True....so why is there the notion that you would be chosen as God's people and a Muslim is not worth the ground they walk on? Religiously speaking. >> I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to >> say >> what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God >> heal their heart," > > Actually, that is my prayer for all my neighbors and myself. sensi: Good, but not all people like to hear that something is very wrong in their heart while your heart is very right. >> of which they're not that crazy about you telling them >> their heart is worse off than yours. > > It is written that being kind to your enemies results in coals being > heaped on their heads. sensi: You have enemies? Why? >> See,you're setting up a pattern of >> arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but >> it's *your* view of them. > > The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD. sensi: Sounds rather dark and bleak for them if God is telling you to tell them you're the coal heaper on their poor little heads. . > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love > unconditionally. sensi: Ours...Okay? Please do not heap coal on peoples heads. Thanks. > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > P.S. The fax number 212-456-1424 works too. > Andrew wrote: > >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > Christ, it's how the relationship > is often smeared like mud in others faces. The blood of Christ Jesus offends many but it is what washes us clean and makes us presentable before GOD Who remains quite angry about our choosing to kill HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ all over again when we deny HIS crucifixion: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, 'they are before the throne of GOD and serve HIM day and night in HIS temple; and HE who sits on the throne will spread HIS tent over them. Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat. For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; HE will lead them to springs of living water. And GOD will wipe away every tear from their eyes." (Revelation 7:14-17) Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! > As far as terroist acts I'm not blaming Christians for that but I do see a > typical across the board attitude that Christians think they're better > people. They know that they have been chosen by HIM. > God's chosen and when you talk chosen and try to exlude others it > only causes conflict. Actually, it seems our openly demonstrating tolerance and inviting folks to join us in our walk with Christ Jesus is what is causing conflict. > The conflict grows and grows into hatred, hatred > begets fear, fear begets action and it becomes a war of who is God's chosen? We know who are GOD's chosen people by the unconditional love that they have even for their enemies. This is undeniable and obvious to the most casual observer. > >> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when > >> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > True....so why is there the notion that you would be chosen as God's people > and a Muslim is not worth the ground they walk on? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6b4237a09bc29bbe? > Religiously speaking. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Good, but not all people like to hear that something is very wrong in their > heart while your heart is very right. As GOD has created me, I am a cardiologist afterall. > >> of which they're not that crazy about you telling them > >> their heart is worse off than yours. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sensi: > You have enemies? Yes. > Why? "When they hate you, remember they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus Christ. > >> See,you're setting up a pattern of > >> arrogant thinking on your part but you don't realize you're doing it but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Sounds rather dark and bleak for them if God is telling you to tell them > you're the coal heaper on their poor little heads. . "It is my heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job to convict, and my job to love." -- Reverend Billy Graham > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love > > unconditionally. > > sensi: > Ours...Okay? Please do not heap coal on peoples heads. Thanks. See above. May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? > > Andrew wrote: > > >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > choosing to kill HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ all > over again when we deny HIS crucifixion: I deny he ever existed. Why can you not post something factual instead of nebulous unprovable claims? > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp > [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? > > > Andrew wrote: > > > >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > Why can you not post something factual > instead of nebulous unprovable claims? The big 'E' is a prisoner of semantics. This is because he can make no sense of the human condition due to his personality disorder. A sort of 'Mr Ripley finds religion'. > >> Andrew wrote: > >> > The following is from a brother in Christ: [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > only causes conflict. The conflict grows and grows into hatred, hatred > begets fear, fear begets action and it becomes a war of who is God's chosen? The reason is we have two opposing beliefs, one is propagated by an extremely rich and powerful nation supported by many other countries with the same religion who are also rich. The other religion exists mainly in poor third world countries. The issue is simply a case of envy of one side by the other. Nothing new of course - we humans have been killing each other over 'possessions' since we were cave dwellers. [We had our gods back then of course, simple little images crudely carved out of wood and propped up in a corner to frighten away the evil spirits.] Nothing changes much does it? In fact i doubt it will change until we wipe out half of humanity in the name of our imaginary gods using nuclear weapons. Perhaps a million or so years later the chimps will learn to talk using a simple language. Then WATCH OUT for the first chimp god - looking remarkably chimplike ! > >> The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. Who wins when > >> playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > > P.S. The fax number 212-456-1424 works too. > > Andrew wrote: > > > The following is from a brother in Christ: [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > Actually, loving your neighbor is a commandment of the truth, Who is > LORD Jesus Christ. Arrogant bullshit, the only ever *command* was given by an early human, no gods of any kind involved since thet are ALL a figments of human imagination. > > I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say > > what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The coals being heaped on their heads is coming from GOD. Idiotic nonsense > May GOD continue to heal our hearts, dear neighbor Sensi whom I love > unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > P.S. The fax number 212-456-1424 works too. To no one in particular. Who prayed for Rosie O'Donell's heart be healed? How do you know it's not her kidneys that need to be healed, huh? > To no one in particular. Who prayed for Rosie O'Donell's heart be healed? That would be our daring, young, and flamingly christian heart surgeon, Dr. Andrew B. DeBakey, at the head of this post. > How do you know it's not her kidneys that need to be healed, huh? He'll know tonight when they shrink the Proteus and inject it into Rosie's left femoral vein. >> To no one in particular. Who prayed for Rosie O'Donell's heart be >> healed? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > He'll know tonight when they shrink the Proteus and inject > it into Rosie's left femoral vein. lol What was that phrase??? Hmmm.... right... Physician, heal thyself! > >> To no one in particular. Who prayed for Rosie O'Donell's heart be > >> healed? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > What was that phrase??? Hmmm.... right... Physician, heal thyself! Take up thy stethescope and walk, according to the late Saint Sydney Barret. >> >> To no one in particular. Who prayed for Rosie O'Donell's heart be >> >> healed? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Take up thy stethescope and walk, according to the late Saint > Sydney Barret. Yeah, walk, man and don't let the door hit you in the arse. >Sensi wrote: >.. Truth is about > loving your neighbor, treating them with respect even when they are Muslim > > Sensi I lot agree with that. Youssef > > The following is from a brother in Christ: > > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > better than you haha attitude.. > The conflict is with "arrogance' in both sets of religions. spot on as we Brits say, absolutely spot on > Who wins when > playing the I'm better than you kind of attitude especially using God or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and trying to convert them by telling them they're religions stinks only > adds fuel to the fire, vice versa. True true > I don't know if Rosie is atheist or not but I'm sure she felt a need to say > what was on her mind just like you say to all your adversaries, "May God [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sensi Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158349047.382474.211680@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-15 announced this statement: > The following is from a brother in Christ: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians > who follow the teachings of Jesus. Well if one takes into consideration that some "Christians" await the following: Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. Because the Bible *says so*! <cut> > May GOD forgive neighbor Rosie O'Donnell, whom I love uncondtionally, > for she does not have control over her tongue. Another Assumption by you. <cut> Werner Kurator  Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== And I'd just like to be the first to come down from Heaven, shake your hand, and say those magic words, "I DON'T GIVE A sh.t MORON, DIE, DIE, DIE -- Charlie Ebert in COLA > Andrew wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Because the Bible *says so*! GOD's will be done and not our will. May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158362967.513481.75470@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-15 announced this statement: >> Andrew wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > GOD's will be done and not our will. Strange, have I said something about our will? And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want to kill people simply because they don't know, love or believe me, like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and LOVE God. If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into jail for some time, yet god should be *praised* for doing the same? > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > Werner whom I love unconditionally. "Your hopes and wishes for me are all meaningless" <- paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote based on "Ecclesiastes" :-) > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater then Jesus the man of Nazareth... <cut Andrew's malformed Sig> Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== I remember when everybody posted to Usenet with their real, deliverable e-mail address. Of all the sins committed by the spammers, destroying the viability of the open Internet was the worst. (Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, news.admin.net-abuse.email) ========= would fit Andrew B.Chung to the letter! > Andrew wrote: > >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Strange, have I said something about our will? We are discussing acts arising from free will. > And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want to > kill people simply because they don't know, love or believe me, > like a lot of people don't KNOW, believe in and LOVE God. Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because GOD knows what is in your heart. > If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, our > criminal justice system would put me into jail for some time, > yet god should be *praised* for doing the same? Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am concerned. Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right. > > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > > Werner whom I love unconditionally. > > "Your hopes and wishes for me > are all meaningless" <- paraphrased reading of "Andrew's" quote > based on "Ecclesiastes" :-) Prayer is never meaningless. > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > > Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater then > Jesus the man of Nazareth... Who is LORD and GOD. "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158408858.856798.115500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-16 announced this statement: <cut> >> >> Well if one takes into consideration that some "Christians" >> >> await the following: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We are discussing acts arising from free will. When and where? When all I did was post a Bible-passage which had nothing to do with free will! Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it because > GOD knows what is in your heart. You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"! So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation that humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You sure measure with two sticks. >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, >> our criminal justice system would put me into jail for some >> time, yet god should be *praised* for doing the same? > > Your thought about killing me is forgiven as far as I am > concerned. Don't need your forgiveness. > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the "will of God", "Dr Hilarious" > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, > and right. So then how can he go about killing people, simply because they don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet me a sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon? >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Prayer is never meaningless. So then why isn't Terry Shiavo no longer among us here on earth? You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her, maybe you did so too? >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, >> >> Who simply was doing the will of the one God who is greater >> then Jesus the man of Nazareth... > > Who is LORD and GOD. Matter of opinion... :-) > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: :-) You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"? First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus; Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel; Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words of Jesus and God. > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will > have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love > unconditionally. Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the way..... > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST* > Andrew <>< <cut malformed Sig > Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== Usually, explaining how to wipe their bottoms is in my job description but doing it for them is not. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > Andrew wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > When and where? See the OP. > When all I did was post a Bible-passage which > had nothing to do with free will! Without free will, you would not be able to post anything. > Revelation 9 > 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared > for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay > the third part of men. GOD's will be done and not our will. > >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want > >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You are not God, "Dr Hilarious"! Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost. > So yet when God foretells us > via the book of revelation that humans have it coming, then he > should be praised? You sure measure with two sticks. It remains my choice to refrain from judging others per the kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2) http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp > >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from Atlanta, > >> our criminal justice system would put me into jail for some [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Don't need your forgiveness. It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD has generously given me. > > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for > > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. > > Yet you praise God for *killing* humans, and claim it's the > "will of God", "Dr Hilarious" Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain lost. > > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, > > and right. > > So then how can he go about killing people, simply because they > don't know, believe in his existence or *LOVE* HIM? Yet me a > sinner, who isn't this God is frowned upon? The wages of sin is death. These a just wages: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp > >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You know I met quite a few people who prayed for her, maybe you > did so too? GOD's will be done and not our will. > >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Matter of opinion... :-) The truth. > > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You notice the chain, "Dr Hilarious"? Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your remain lost. > First step: > God gave the revelation to Jesus; Yes, the Father gave the revelation to HIS Son. > Second step: Jesus passes it on to an Angel; Yes, LORD Jesus Christ sent the revelation to Apostle John by way of HIS Angel. > Third step: the Angel appears to John, telling him the words of > Jesus and God. Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an experience for John rather than mere words. > > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you will > > have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I love > > unconditionally. > > Ah "Dr Hilarious" don't need to worry that I might miss the way..... Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost without the way. "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > > Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST* Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and earth in HIS full possession. Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell. May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? "Dr Hilarious" aka Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158462135.007517.174810@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-17 announced this statement: >> Andrew wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > See the OP. Well I wasn't it, was I? >> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which >> had nothing to do with free will! > > Without free will, you would not be able to post anything. Did this reveal the "Holy Spirit" to you? >> Revelation 9 >> 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared >> for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay >> the third part of men. > > GOD's will be done and not our will. Depending on the Faith, one holds... >> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want >> >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost. So now you give words their own *definition* too? You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize it, must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes.... >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation that >> humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You sure [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before too. >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It remains my choice made through the free will that GOD has > generously given me. Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from you. >> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for >> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Again, name-calling simply serves to show that you remain > lost. See above... >> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, >> > and right. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp Again if you got something to say, post it here. >> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear >> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > GOD's will be done and not our will. Oh what happened to God changing his mind? >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, >> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The truth. In truth, Jesus was a *finite* manifestation of the *INFINITE* God. The *first* of many.... :-) >> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yet again, name-calling simply demonstrates that your remain > lost. "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious".... >> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus; > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Actually, GOD's Angel delivered the revelation as an > experience for John rather than mere words. Irrelevant, the *chain* is important... >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you >> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Yet again a 4th time in this post, name-calling simply > confirms that you remain lost without the way. Strange, "Dr Hilarious" yet you didn't offer me your *fake* forgiveness for this alleged hurt.... > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus > Christ Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple truth, and leave the path that leads to life.... >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, >> >> Who was giving all praise to God HIS FATHER *FIRST* > > Christ Jesus is risen with all the authority of heaven and > earth in HIS full possession. *given* to him, as he said so. > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell. So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too? But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus has the keys to death and hell, "Dr Hilarious".... > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > Werner whom I love unconditionally. Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in vain... <cut> Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== "I would like to shake the hand of the man who first decided that e-mail clients should slice, dice and run arbitrary programs. Then I'd like to stir, blend and puree his hand." -- J. D. Baldwin in the Monastery Despairing Werner wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > Werner -the Despairing Agnostic- Kurator wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Well I wasn't it, was I? You chose to join this thread and not the other way around. Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has generously given you. > >> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which > >> had nothing to do with free will! > > > > Without free will, you would not be able to post anything. > > Did this reveal the "Holy Spirit" to you? There is nothing revealing about you. > >> Revelation 9 > >> 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Depending on the Faith, one holds... Actually it depends on GOD. > >> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't want > >> >> to kill people simply because they don't know, love or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > So now you give words their own *definition* too? No. > You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize it, > must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes.... You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by pretending to assess the vision of the seeing. > >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation that > >> humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You sure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Got something to say, say it here, IIRC I told you so before > too. I have written plainly. > >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from > >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Irrelevant what you in your delusion might think I need from > you. My choice is in keeping with guidance from the Holy Spirit and not your needs. HE convicts you. > >> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for > >> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > See above... Please do. > >> > Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, > >> > and right. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Again if you got something to say, post it here. Again, I have written plainly. > >> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear > >> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Oh what happened to God changing his mind? Again, GOD's will be done and not our will: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dad0ac3a8863795b? > >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > In truth, Jesus was a *finite* manifestation of the *INFINITE* > God. The *first* of many.... :-) In truth, the description of the infinite Jesus is necessarily finite within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know this. > >> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious".... It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK. > >> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus; > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Irrelevant, the *chain* is important... The truth is relevant. > >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you > >> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner whom I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Strange, "Dr Hilarious" yet you didn't offer me your *fake* > forgiveness for this alleged hurt.... Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus > > Christ > > Yeah watch out that you don't loos sight of this simple > truth, and leave the path that leads to life.... Again, you remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by pretending to assess the vision of the seeing. > >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *given* to him, as he said so. Yes, by GOD the Father. > > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell. > > So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too? HE is LORD of all. > But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus > has the keys to death and hell Simply open your eyes. > , "Dr Hilarious".... Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost. > > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > > Werner whom I love unconditionally. > > Ah, if I die tomorrow then your *wish* for me would be in > vain... GOD's will be done and not my will: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b? May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? "Dr Hilarious" aka Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158500571.841759.102780@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-17 announced this statement: > Despairing Werner wrote: Yep *people* like you are the cause of *despair*, as no matter what, you don't get the points made, and this inspite the fact that you are *studied* person.... >> Andrew wrote: >> > Werner -the Despairing Agnostic- Kurator wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has > generously given you. Where is God generosity when people turn their back on him? >> >> When all I did was post a Bible-passage which had nothing >> >> to do with free will! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There is nothing revealing about you. So now you contradict your self when you say in another post that the Holy Spirit revealed to you that I suffer from delusion? >> >> Revelation 9 15 And the four angels were loosed, which >> >> were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Actually it depends on GOD. So the god named "Allah" is the same God you as a Christian worship? If this is the case why do they have then a *different* Scripture? >> >> >> And yes if you want to *talk* about my will, I wouldn't >> >> >> want to kill people simply because they don't know, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > No. Yes you do, as "Dr Hilarious" isn't *name-calling* but naming the child by it's proper name. >> You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize >> it, must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes.... > > You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by > pretending to assess the vision of the seeing. This is the the crap you spout when you can't win arguments, or convince the other person that your view is correct. >> >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation >> >> that humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I have written plainly. BTW is the *picture* on your web-site recent? really you? and not some poor guy's image you abuse? >> >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from >> >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > HE convicts you. Just like John/t/Baptist *WAS NOT* the Holy Spirit, likewise *you* "Dr Hilarious" aren't the Holy Spirit neither. >> >> > Many thanks and much praise and all the glory to GOD for >> >> > keeping you from acting on your homicidal ideation. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Again, I have written plainly. A link to your website! Duh! >> >> >> > May HE continue to keep your heart beating, dear >> >> >> > neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Again, GOD's will be done and not our will: A God who kills people isn't benevolent, does this not get into your brain, "Dr Hilarious"? > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dad0ac3a8863795b? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > finite within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with > hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit know this. I get the strong suspicion God sends strong delusions to you. Jesus was *finite* when he walked on earth, he was found even to *misquote* the OT. >> >> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation 19:16) >> >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK. For speaking my mind, don't you know that this is a sign of the free will God so generously gave to me.... >> >> First step: God gave the revelation to Jesus; >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > The truth is relevant. Again, how John got it doesn't mean squat to me. As I don't share his *experience*. (not that I wouldn't want to) BTW the Holy Spirit just told me that you should look up Rev.10:4, it is a message he wanted to give you for a long time, but somehow he can't get through to you... ah yeah some concepts you have get in the way..... >> >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating so that you >> >> > will have time to find the way, dear neighbor Werner [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless > (Ecclesiastes). Doesn't matter, I' still share the opinion with you... just for the laugh of it.... >> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus >> > Christ [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Again, you remind me of the blind man who would feign vision > by pretending to assess the vision of the seeing. You know this person so well, could it be that you talk about yourself here? >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, >> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yes, by GOD the Father. Who is the greater *authority*... >> > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell. >> >> So Jesus works as a *prison-ward* too? > > HE is LORD of all. Yet he passes it on... >> But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus >> has the keys to death and hell > > Simply open your eyes. I'd like to *see* it here in your reply, so that I know you know what your talking about. >> , "Dr Hilarious".... > > Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost. And your reply reveals that one hit a *soft-spot*.... >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b? Post the message here > May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Werner whom > I love unconditionally. *Your* feigned *well-wishing* antics don't mean a thing to me, "Dr Hilarious" whose heart needs healing just as well as mine, after all you are a *sinner*. Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== Giving up on assembly language was the apple in our Garden of Eden: Languages whose use squanders machine cycles are sinful. The LISP machine now permits LISP programmers to abandon bra and fig-leaf. -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982 > Andrew wrote: > > Despairing Werner wrote: > > Yep *people* like you are the cause of *despair*, as no matter > what, you don't get the points made, and this inspite the fact > that you are *studied* person.... Sorry to cause you to despair. Please forgive all my iniquities. <snip> > > You chose to join this thread and not the other way around. > > > > Yet another act arising from the free will that GOD has > > generously given you. > > Where is God generosity when people turn their back on him? John 3:16 <snip> > So now you contradict your self when you say in another post > that the Holy Spirit revealed to you that I suffer from > delusion? No. The credit still belongs to the Holy Spirit and not to you. <snip> > So the god named "Allah" is the same God you as a Christian worship? Yes. > If this is the case why do they have then a *different* > Scripture? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6b4237a09bc29bbe? There is a different covenant with a different inheritance. <snip> > >> >> > Thinking about killing someone is the same as doing it > >> >> > because GOD knows what is in your heart. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yes you do, as "Dr Hilarious" isn't *name-calling* but naming > the child by it's proper name. Again, name-calling continues to show that you remain lost. Intolerance of correction is an anticipated characteristic of the lost. > >> You are *HILARIOUS* Andrew, just too bad you don't realize > >> it, must be a veil pulled in front of your eyes.... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This is the the crap you spout when you can't win arguments, or > convince the other person that your view is correct. The use of profanities further confirms that you are floundering. > >> >> So yet when God foretells us via the book of revelation > >> >> that humans have it coming, then he should be praised? You [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > BTW is the *picture* on your web-site recent? No. > really you? Yes. > and > not some poor guy's image you abuse? No. > >> >> >> If I would go and kill a certain cardiologist from > >> >> >> Atlanta, our criminal justice system would put me into [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Just like John/t/Baptist *WAS NOT* the Holy Spirit, likewise > *you* "Dr Hilarious" aren't the Holy Spirit neither. Being guided by the Holy Spirit is not the same as being the Holy Spirit. To understand this, simply surf the links below my sigs. <snip> > >> > The wages of sin is death. These are just wages: > >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > A link to your website! Duh! The link is optional. <snip> > > In truth, the description of the infinite Jesus is necessarily > > finite within the ink on the pages of the Bible. Those with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Jesus was *finite* when he walked on earth, he was found even to > *misquote* the OT. This serves to show that GOD remains sovereign over all things. The written Word of GOD does not place limits on GOD's authority. <snip> > A God who kills people isn't benevolent The Creator has every right to unmake anything HE has made. Most assuredly without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right. > , does this not get into > your brain, "Dr Hilarious Again, name-calling simply confirms that you still remain lost. <snip> > >> "Delusion" could be your *middle* name "Dr Hilarious".... > > > > It seem you would fit right in amongst the denizens of AUK. > > For speaking my mind, don't you know that this is a sign of the > free will God so generously gave to me.... Actually your inability to refrain from name-calling indicates that the evil spirit inside your heart is taking away your free will. <snip> > > The truth is relevant. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but somehow he can't get through to you... ah yeah some > concepts you have get in the way..... "And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down." (Revelation 10:4) It is now clear that an evil spirit guides you and not the Holy Spirit. Your evil spirit wishes for the Holy Spirit to reveal what is sealed in order to prevent its prophesied destruction by subverting GOD's master plan. <snip> > > Without the LORD, your opinions will always be meaningless > > (Ecclesiastes). > > Doesn't matter, I' still share the opinion with you... just for > the laugh of it.... Your choice. > >> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus > >> > Christ [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You know this person so well, could it be that you talk about > yourself here? No. > >> >> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Who is the greater *authority*... Yes. > >> > Indeed, HE also has the keys to death and hell. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yet he passes it on... HE remains LORD of all. > >> But I sure like to see the Bible passage that says that Jesus > >> has the keys to death and hell [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'd like to *see* it here in your reply, so that I know you know > what your talking about. Revelation 1:18 > >> , "Dr Hilarious".... > > > > Again, name-calling simply shows that you are still lost. > > And your reply reveals that one hit a *soft-spot*.... Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > >> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > >> > Werner whom I love unconditionally. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Post the message here "Those who do not work do not eat." -- Holy Spirit May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? "Dr Hilarious" aka Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158542962.435002.38220@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-18 announced this statement: <cut> > Intolerance of correction is an anticipated characteristic of > the lost. Ah this is why you refuse to be *corrected* by anybody here on Usenet..... :-) <cut> Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== Living on Earth is expensive, but it comes with an anual free trip around the Sun Werner wrote: > Andrew wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ah this is why you refuse to be *corrected* by anybody here on > Usenet..... :-) Without the LORD, you will continue to be meaningless (Ecclesiastes). May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158628241.241139.13960@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-19 announced this statement: > Werner wrote: >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Without the LORD, you will continue to be meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Your reply shows how lost you are.... As I haven't seen you accept "corrections"..... <cut> SignatureWerner Kurator -- ========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== Private entities can't compete with the government in money-losing propositions. Governments are WAY better at losing money than any private entity could ever dream of being. -- Dreamer in RASFW Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > Werner wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Your reply shows how lost you are.... As I haven't seen you > accept "corrections"..... Correction comes only from the truth. You are too untruthful to correct anybody: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/065dc258396b69fb? May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158676841.662395.54460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-19 announced this statement: > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is not the *ORIGINAL* statement "Dr Hilarious". So what it shows yet again is that you change what others have typed.... and bear false witness. Well why I'm not surprised.... <cut> Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== Cogito ergo periculosus [I think, therefore I'm dangerous] Werner Tihos Kurator wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > This is not the *ORIGINAL* statement "Dr Hilarious". Name-calling simply shows that you continue to stumble along without direction: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/065dc258396b69fb? May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158705419.113982.274410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-19 announced this statement: > Werner Tihos Kurator wrote: "Copy cat" can't come up something of his own.... :-) ROTFL Actually I read your replies as the first one, they make me laugh so hard, many thanks Andrew to be my *personal* "Dr Hilarious".... Better yet I'll start *giving* God all the *glory* for making you such a funny/hilarious dude..... >> Andrew wrote: >> > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Name-calling simply shows that you continue to stumble along without > direction: You haven't shown it to be name-calling, But "Dr Funny" might fit you just as well. So here live up to your reputation now you can have another opportunity and say something really funny too: <cut irrelevant stuff> Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== If Usenet had a coat of arms, the motto on the banner would be "SO THERE". -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden > Andrew wrote: > > Werner Tihos Kurator wrote: > > "Copy cat" can't come up something of his own.... :-) > > ROTFL "Written laughter is silent despair" -- Holy Spirit. Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair. May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97? Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in <1158883109.317129.233550@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> on 2006-09-21 announced this statement: >> Andrew wrote: >> > Werner Tihos Kurator wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > "Written laughter is silent despair" -- Holy Spirit. For which you haven't provided any evidence that he/she/it is the source. You claiming it doesn't make it so. Secondly you still haven't refuted the opening statement.... > Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair. See this is why you are mistaken yet again. But I see some of the *results* of *YOUR* faith, and in fact you aren't so different from those who don't have faith. Besides as I told you, I have faith that God *IS*, he is the ground of our *being*, in him we live, Jesus was another expression (limited/finite manifestation) of the unlimited infinite God. > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > Werner whom I love unconditionally. Your *pious* wishes are as *useful* as the "advisory" you gave about the coming destruction of the earth a few months ago. > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, > > Andrew <>< Werner Kurator Signature========================================================== "Like all translations of the Bible, made as they are by imperfect man, this one undoubtedly falls short of its goals. Yet we are grateful to God for the extent to which he has enabled us to realize these goals and for the strength he has given us and our colleagues to complete our task." Preface to the "New International Version" of the Bible June 1978 (Revised August 1983) ============================================================== "I am writing for the 'Christian agnostic,' by which I mean a person who... thought he is sure of many Christians truth, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about what some branches of the Church dogmatize." "LESLIE D. WEATHERHEAD's thoughtful and compelling Christian writings brought him worldwide acclaim during his lifetime. His many other books include "the will of God", "The Autobiography of Jesus", "Life begins at death", "The meaning of the Cross", "Prescription for anxiety", and "time for God". Dr. Weatherhead served as the pastor of City Temple in London, England, from 1936 until 1960" == quote taken from the back-cover of his "the Christian Agnostic"... ============================================================== I might be crazier than you think > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD > in <1158883109.317129.233550@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > For which you haven't provided any evidence that he/she/it is > the source. You claiming it doesn't make it so. It remains a goad for you. The last time you kicked it, your bearing false witness was laid bare for all to see firsthand. > Secondly you still haven't refuted the opening statement.... It remains my choice to reflect your own thorn back to you. The mirror has a powerful effect on those who are deluded. > > Without faith in LORD Jesus Christ, you will always despair. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > expression (limited/finite manifestation) of the unlimited > infinite God. Without the LORD, your beliefs will remain forever meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor > > Werner whom I love unconditionally. > > Your *pious* wishes are as *useful* as the "advisory" you gave > about the coming destruction of the earth a few months ago. The advisory still stands and has not been rescinded. The destruction of the world as we know it remains a very real possibility. May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Werner whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a77da2d26da0ab97? > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: >> Andrew wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > You are too untruthful to correct anybody: Apparently, no one on Earth is truthful enough to correct the Great Doctor Andrew B. Chung. Signature________________________________________________________________________ Hail Eris! TM#5; COOSN-029-06-71069 Cardinal Snarky of the Fannish Inquisition http://www6.kingdomofloathing.com/login.php http://www.runescape.com/ No one expects the Fannish Inquisition! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cabal_of_the_Holy_Pretzel/join "Etymology: Argumentum ad Septicus : argument to putrefaction. Derived from Septicum Argumentum : putrefaction of argument. "Septic \Sep"tic\, Septical \Sep"tic*al\ a. [L. septicus to make putrid: cf. F. septique.] Having power to promote putrefaction. Of or relating to or caused by putrefaction." -- Kadaitcha Man, indirectly to Donald "Skeptic"/"Septic" Alford, in MID: <a3svh.djj.19.1@news.alt.net> "I never fail to be amazing" -- Looney Maroon for September 2006 nominee William Barwell's ego knows no bounds. MID: 12ggt3q3uti3t52@corp.supernews.com > Andrew wrote: > > Werner "thorn in his own side" Kurator wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Apparently, no one on Earth is truthful enough Incorrect. Those in the Holy Spirit are truthful enough to correct others who are untruthful. > to correct the Great Doctor > Andrew B. Chung. There is only one Great Physician and HIS name is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/healer.asp Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed? > The following is from a brother in Christ: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > of individuals and who bomb innocent chi |
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