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Re: Revelation

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calvin12@sysko.com - 26 Jul 2006 16:55 GMT
"It is clear to the discerning that you have allowed the fabrications of
man keep you from knowing the Word of GOD."

Actually it is not discernment, it is the self deception of rebellion,
it
is fabrications of a mere man who has invented new doctrine concerning
the
three persons of the Trinity and of God, as the whole church expressed
in
the creed.  Man in his natural form is rebellious against that which he
as
an individual using self reference only falls short in measure with
scripture and of the creed.

In truth, in isolation from the correction of spiritual advisors within
the
community of christians it is almost a certainty that self reference
will
lead to false doctrine.  It is clear that claimed infallible discernment
was wrong, a pure wishful guess only.  We can not be a reference unto
ourselves, the bible is full of the folly where such is done and full of
God's purpose for us to be open to correction from the community of
christians.

Consulting a spiritual advisor is always wise when false doctrine tempts
our flawed minds that we may be corrected by the measure of orthodox
doctrine.  God's blessing and protection and peace upon you, thanking as
always for prayer on my behalf; God have mercy on me a sinner.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Jul 2006 18:53 GMT
> "It is clear to the discerning that you have allowed the fabrications of
> man keep you from knowing the Word of GOD."
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> in
> the creed.

You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by evaluating the
vision of the seeing.

Sorry I am not able to give you a discerning heart.  Please forgive all
my iniquities.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor Calvin.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Message for the wolves in sheepskin:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?

or
http://tinyurl.com/gextq (witness the frantic foot-stomping antics of
the
anti-christ)
Al - 26 Jul 2006 21:23 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, LIAR,  wrote:

> You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by evaluating the
> vision of the seeing.

And you, Chung, are a frigging liar.  Here's the PROOF:

Chung wrote:
>>>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>>>> > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Chung caught in a boldfaced lie! GAME OVER, CHUNG!
calvin12@sysko.com - 26 Jul 2006 21:20 GMT
"Sorry I am not able to give you a discerning heart.  Please forgive all
my iniquities."

We are told in scripture to confess one to another that God may hear our
prayers and forgive us.  If we ask for forgiveness, even for asserting
false doctrine, He will be swift to forgive us.

I started these threads by stateing that suggested false doctrine is
worth pursuing in newsgroups.  It gives the inventer of the doctrine
space to expose themselves in measure of orthodox doctrine.  It educates
others as to how easly anyone can go astray and how by comparing error
to eternal truth of scripture and of orthodox doctrine we can correct
our error.  It demonstrates how it is always best to consult spiritual
advisors for a reference external to ourselves for the measure of
orthodox doctrine.

May I suggest again that you take comfort in forgiveness and consult a
spiritual advisor with whom to discuss those doctrines you propose that
together in prayerful discussion you can find the error in them as
compared to scripture and orthodox doctrine.

It is not that I, a sinner who stumbles daily, is the source by which to
measure; it is by measure of orthodox doctrine preserved by the Holy
Spirit in the church.  My work is done in this matter.  If I have
offended you, please forgive me.  As you pray on my behalf, God's
blessing and protection and peace upon you, God have mercy on me a
sinner.
calvin12@sysko.com - 27 Jul 2006 15:53 GMT
"> In the early church confession was public in the presence of all
those
> gathered.
>
> James 5:14-16
>
> "Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and
> let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the
Lord;
> and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will
raise
> him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
>
> Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another,
> that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power
in
> its effects.""

"This passage contains advice for those who are sick.

The purpose here for confessing sins to one another if we are stricken
by
GOD with illness is so that our brethren would be better able to pray on
our behalf concerning the healing of said illness."

Actually not, please consult the scripture above carefully again, the
"confess one to another" is prefaced by "therefore" which is in
reference to the previous line which says that sins may be forgiven.  It
refers to healing of both soul and body.

"In truth, this confession of sins to one another would **not** be so
that
GOD would forgive us our sins because HE has already forgiven us our
sins
with the sacrifice of HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus
Christ."

In fact, actually, He made possible by His actions that we may be
healed spiritually
if we confess our sins, as scripture directs.  Forgiveness follows
confession of sins because of His sacrifice.  We don't have a free
ticket
to sin with an automatic out without confession and repentance.

"If the Holy Spirit were guiding you, this misinterpretation of the Holy
Bible by you would not have ever happened."

Again, it is not I who is the reference, it is the work of the Holy
Spirit within the church with Christ as its head. There is no "life
force energy", "chi" of bible interpretation and each of us is not the
final authority as to its meaning.  Such hubris is the seed of false
doctrine, as such an abundant crop was recently sown and the plants
failed accordingly, brought short by reference outside of vain self
reference.

That we may guard against private interpretation and the seeds of false
doctrine it sows, let us consult a spiritual advisor that we may avoid
the error of self reference.  Your prayers on my behalf sought as
always, God's blessing and protection and peace unto you, God forgive me
a sinner.
calvin12@sysko.com - 29 Jul 2006 02:33 GMT
"> This thread, as the one before it can now conclude as my work is
> accomplished.

Leaving before answering some simple questions about your
interpretation of the Bible is hardly an accomplishment."

My objectives were as stated and they were accomplished.  It is finished
and the questions you pose do not relate to the goals achieved.  The
whole thread was not about me but about revealing how false doctrine
invented by isolated workings of a single mind without reference and
consultation with spiritual advisors were almost sure to lead to error.
That error not by my account but as by measure with orthodox doctrine of
2000 years was amply illustrated, not by my action but by the words that
came from the mouth of the one who invented it.

If I have offended forgive me.

God's blessing and protection and peace upon you, God forgive me a
sinner.
 
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