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What has happened to this NG!!??

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DanceKing - 19 Jul 2006 06:45 GMT
Wow!  So where do I go now with cardiology questions?
The Lord, pt. II - 19 Jul 2006 07:20 GMT
>What has happened to this NG!!??

Simply put:

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25   not-to-here-william...@gmail.com
22   the_witch...@yahooy.com

Notice a trend? THAT'S what happened to smc. Chung wants this NG all to
himself to praise his jesus.
SUNNY - 20 Jul 2006 17:32 GMT
I CONCUR.

> >What has happened to this NG!!??
>
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> Notice a trend? THAT'S what happened to smc. Chung wants this NG all to
> himself to praise his jesus.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Jul 2006 11:56 GMT
> Wow!  So where do I go now with cardiology questions?

You have posted to the correct newsgroup.

Now, what are your cardiology questions?

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Jim Chinnis - 19 Jul 2006 15:51 GMT
"DanceKing" <danceking@nospammm.com> wrote in part:

>Wow!  So where do I go now with cardiology questions?

You have to use your kill filters to use most Usenet newsgroups. This one
still works, but newbies don't stay.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Jul 2006 17:45 GMT
> "DanceKing" <danceking@nospammm.com> wrote in part:
>
> >Wow!  So where do I go now with cardiology questions?
>
> You have to use your kill filters to use most Usenet newsgroups. This one
> still works, but newbies don't stay.

Actually, Al and Kurt Gavin were newbies and they seem to be staying
:-)

Still praying for them and for you, dear Jim.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2006 18:11 GMT
This place is a good place to ask cardiologic questions:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/

The Cleveland Clinic has been ranked #1 for hospital quite a few times.

On the other hand (which should be Andrew Bee Chung), he HAS won a few
of the kook awards.
Bob - 19 Jul 2006 19:18 GMT
Thanks for the site. Have just switched over.
I found that I could not "kill" fast enough all the OT postings here.

>This place is a good place to ask cardiologic questions:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>On the other hand (which should be Andrew Bee Chung), he HAS won a few
>of the kook awards.
William Wagner - 19 Jul 2006 19:40 GMT
> http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/

Neat site.  Yet  spontaneity  and group expertise may be lost.  Drivel
must always have it's opposite.  95 % drivel here but the 5 % ....Gold.
Weed like a gardener.

Bill

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Jul 2006 20:42 GMT
> > http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/
>
>  Neat site.  Yet  spontaneity  and group expertise may be lost.  Drivel
> must always have it's opposite.  95 % drivel here but the 5 % ....Gold.

What is gold is truth, knowledge, and wisdom.  Such things can only
come from either the LORD or those who have been blessed by HIM.

Laus Deo !

Marana tha !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2006 20:52 GMT
> What is gold is truth, knowledge, and wisdom.  Such things can only
> come from either the LORD or those who have been blessed by HIM.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

The above constitues the 95% drivel here.
blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 19 Jul 2006 20:55 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> What is gold is truth, knowledge, and wisdom.  Such things can only
> come from either the LORD or those who have been blessed by HIM.

> Laus Deo !

> Marana tha !

> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

The above constitutes the 95% drivel here.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Jul 2006 22:34 GMT
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> The above constitutes the 95% drivel here.

Pot kettle black.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Jim Chinnis - 19 Jul 2006 23:31 GMT
Bob <rogodwin3@nospam.adelphia.net> wrote in part:

>Thanks for the site. Have just switched over.
>I found that I could not "kill" fast enough all the OT postings here.

You have to keep adding people to your kill file for a while. After that,
only a few crazies leak through.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Jim Chinnis - 20 Jul 2006 01:28 GMT
Bob <rogodwin3@nospam.adelphia.net> wrote in part:

>>This place is a good place to ask cardiologic questions:
>>
>>http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/

Some of us want to discuss the science of cardiology, not ask a doctor
questions on-line.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
David Rind - 20 Jul 2006 00:02 GMT
> You have to use your kill filters to use most Usenet newsgroups. This one
> still works, but newbies don't stay.

I don't think it really solves anything to use killfiles. Various
posters have chased away most of the informed people who might choose to
read and post here.

While using a killfile will limit one's own personal exposure to certain
posters and OT posts, it doesn't improve the general loss of community
in smc. It's unfortunate, but for the most part this newsgroup is dead.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Jul 2006 00:50 GMT
> > You have to use your kill filters to use most Usenet newsgroups. This one
> > still works, but newbies don't stay.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> posters and OT posts, it doesn't improve the general loss of community
> in smc. It's unfortunate, but for the most part this newsgroup is dead.

Not for the discerning.

Still praying for you, dear David.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
David Rind - 20 Jul 2006 02:05 GMT
>>While using a killfile will limit one's own personal exposure to certain
>>posters and OT posts, it doesn't improve the general loss of community
>>in smc. It's unfortunate, but for the most part this newsgroup is dead.
>
> Not for the discerning.

Then, unfortunately, it seems that most of the people I found
interesting in this group weren't discerning. Too bad for me, I guess.

> Still praying for you, dear David.

Thank you for that.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Jul 2006 08:50 GMT
> >>While using a killfile will limit one's own personal exposure to certain
> >>posters and OT posts, it doesn't improve the general loss of community
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Then, unfortunately, it seems that most of the people I found
> interesting in this group weren't discerning.

No such thing as either unfortunately or fortunately when there is no
such thing luck (Proverbs 16:33).

Only the LORD can give you a discerning heart.

> Too bad for me, I guess.

It is never too late to ask the LORD for a discerning heart.

> > Still praying for you, dear David.
>
> Thank you for that.

You are welcome.

All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Susan - 20 Jul 2006 02:12 GMT
> While using a killfile will limit one's own personal exposure to certain
> posters and OT posts, it doesn't improve the general loss of community
> in smc. It's unfortunate, but for the most part this newsgroup is dead.

You make a valid point, but Jim and I have both participated in another
group that was just a much a mess years ago.  Then the miscreants left,
got bored, whatever, and now it's a quiet little support group, with
immediate helpful responses to newbies who are no longer scared off.

Just takes maintaining a presence and a stubborn streak.

Susan
Jim Chinnis - 20 Jul 2006 02:34 GMT
Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Susan

Unfortunately, Dr. Rind is largely right. It will be a while before this
group is helpful again. I found it very interesting to be able to discuss
studies as they were announced, knock around a variety of viewpoints, and
see the opinions of others, some of whom were informed and interesting to
read. Usenet provides a unique opportunity to mix it up with professionals
of various stripes, non-professionals who sometimes have better grasps on
some issues than the professionals, etc. It's a shame that its openness
makes it an easy target for abuse.

As Susan says, it isn't dead, though. It is just taking a break.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Susan - 20 Jul 2006 02:47 GMT
> Unfortunately, Dr. Rind is largely right. It will be a while before this
> group is helpful again. I found it very interesting to be able to discuss
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> some issues than the professionals, etc. It's a shame that its openness
> makes it an easy target for abuse.

There must be a special place in hell for all those miscreants poking
sharp sticks at a person who's so clearly very ill.  At least, I hope
there is.

They, not he, prevent this group from functioning as it once did.

Susan
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Jul 2006 08:49 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes

This is quite telling.

> > Unfortunately, Dr. Rind is largely right. It will be a while before this
> > group is helpful again. I found it very interesting to be able to discuss
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> There must be a special place in hell for all those miscreants poking
> sharp sticks at a person who's so clearly very ill.

The entire Muslim world apparently concluded that Abdul Rehman's faith
in LORD Jesus Christ was clearly the product of mental illness and so
they spared his life.

It seems you share their belief.

> At least, I hope there is.

Curious that you would hope for your own demise.

> They, not he, prevent this group from functioning as it once did.

Without the regular participation of a cardiologist, this group would
indeed be dead.

You will be in my prayers, dear Susan.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

> Susan
David Rind - 20 Jul 2006 11:32 GMT
> There must be a special place in hell for all those miscreants poking
> sharp sticks at a person who's so clearly very ill.  At least, I hope
> there is.
>
> They, not he, prevent this group from functioning as it once did.

Unfortunately, a single person misbehaving not only hurts the signal to
noise ratio in a group, which chases some people away, but also draws
others into the fray, which makes things even worse. When you combine
this with crossposting to groups where people really have no clue what
is happening in smc, it's possible for a very small number of people to
destroy an unmoderated ng.

That said, I do find it odd that people will simultaneously state that
they believe someone to be mentally ill and then viciously and
repeatedly attack him.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Jul 2006 12:11 GMT
> > There must be a special place in hell for all those miscreants poking
> > sharp sticks at a person who's so clearly very ill.  At least, I hope
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> is happening in smc, it's possible for a very small number of people to
> destroy an unmoderated ng.

Not when NG has been blessed by LORD GOD Almighty as SMC has been.

Now ASD on the other hand can be destroyed.

> That said, I do find it odd that people will simultaneously state that
> they believe someone to be mentally ill and then viciously and
> repeatedly attack him.

Will Susan understand that you are writing about her ?

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
calvin12@sysco.com - 20 Jul 2006 14:39 GMT
"Not when NG has been blessed by LORD GOD Almighty as SMC has been.

Now ASD on the other hand can be destroyed."

Oh silly boy, will you do it with your pagan use of "chi" that you have
been touting of late?  You don't control the internet or any part of it.
Susan - 20 Jul 2006 14:50 GMT
> That said, I do find it odd that people will simultaneously state that
> they believe someone to be mentally ill and then viciously and
> repeatedly attack him.

Exactly.  It's disgusting.

Susan
 
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