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eml - 18 Jul 2006 15:12 GMT Northwestern University
Posted: July 6, 2006
Variations In Detoxifying Genes Linked To Lou Gehrig's Disease Genetic variations in three enzymes that detoxify insecticides and nerve gas agents as well as metabolize cholesterol-lowering statin drugs may be a risk factor for developing sporadic amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease), and possibly responsible for a reported twofold increased risk of ALS in Gulf War veterans.
These findings, from a study led Teepu Siddique, M.D., and colleagues at Northwestern University, open the door to investigating gene-environment interactions as a cause of ALS and other illnesses and
to the development of molecular targets for specific treatments. The study was published in the August 22 online issue (available now) of the journal Neurology.
Siddique is Les Turner ALS Foundation/Herbert C. Wenske Professor, Davee Department of Neurology and Clinical Neurosciences, professor of cell and molecular biology and director of the Neuromuscular Disorders Program at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.
ALS is a complex neurodegenerative disorder of the motor neurons that results in muscle weakness, difficulty speaking, swallowing and breathing and eventual total paralysis and death generally within five years.
In 1993 Siddique and collaborators determined that mutations in a gene known as SOD1 account for 20 percent of familial, or inherited, ALS (2 percent of all cases of ALS). However, the cause of sporadic ALS is still unknown.
In earlier research Siddique and other researchers hypothesized that sporadic ALS is modulated by variations in multiple genes interacting with each other and environmental exposures.
The genes for human paraoxanases (PON 1, PON 2 and PON 3), which are located on chromosome 7q21.3, code for the production of detoxifying enzymes involved in the metabolism of a variety of drugs, organophosphate insecticides, such as parathion, diazinon and chlorpyrifos, and nerve gas agents such as sarin.
Previous research described a possible twofold increased risk for developing ALS in veterans of the Gulf War, indicating a war-related environmental exposure to organophosphates and sarin in genetically susceptible individuals as a possible cause.
PON gene cluster variants have previously been associated with other neurodegenerative and vascular disorders, including Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, coronary artery disease and stroke.
Although the Northwestern DNA study samples were not analyzed for inclusion of Gulf War veterans, Siddique and co-researchers found significant evidence that gene variations (polymorphisms) on the chromosome region encompassing PON2-PON3 were strongly associated with sporadic ALS.
"Thus, single nucleotide polymorphism genotyping in the intergenic regions of the PON gene cluster, and replication, gene expression, gene-gene interaction and PON serum/enzymatic studies may help elucidate the complexity of PON cluster association with ALS," Siddique said.
Siddique hopes to study DNA samples from Gulf War veterans with increased incidence of sporadic ALS and has applied for their DNA from the Veterans Administration collection.
Collaborating with Siddique on this research were Mohammad Saeed, M.D.;
Nailah Siddique; Wu-Yen Hung; Elena Usacheva; Erdong Liu, M.D.; Robert L. Sufit, M.D.; Scott L. Heller, M.D., Northwestern University Feinberg
School of Medicine; Jonathan L. Haines, Vanderbilt University Medical Center; and Margaret Pericak-Vance, Duke University Medical Center.
This study was supported by grants from the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke; Les Turner ALS Foundation; V. E. Schaff ALS Research Trust; Wenske Foundation; Harold Post Professorship; Les Turner ALS Foundation/Herbert C. Wenske Foundation Professorship; Falk Foundation Fund; and The David C. Asselin M.D., Memorial Fund.
Jim Chinnis - 20 Jul 2006 02:37 GMT I found this very interesting and I read it carefully. Unfortunately, I have no expertise in this area. I'll only say that it looks promising for more research.
Thanks for the post.
Jim
"eml" <mmlevy46@hotmail.com> wrote in part:
>Northwestern University > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] >Professorship; Falk Foundation Fund; and The David C. Asselin M.D., >Memorial Fund. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
David Rind - 20 Jul 2006 16:59 GMT > I found this very interesting and I read it carefully. Unfortunately, I have > no expertise in this area. I'll only say that it looks promising for more [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jim For some reason I didn't see the original post in this thread, only Jim Chinnis' reply.
The article is really preliminary. People are finding gene linkages all the time that don't really turn out to mean anything.
I can't claim any particular knowledge or expertise in this specific area (genes associated with sporadic ALS), but I would not make much of this report until there is future research.
Once you find an association, you can often come up with some theory to show why that association might explain some observed fact. I just don't find this article very convincing.
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Susan - 20 Jul 2006 22:27 GMT > For some reason I didn't see the original post in this thread, only Jim > Chinnis' reply. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > show why that association might explain some observed fact. I just don't > find this article very convincing. So, here's a possibly rilly, rilly dumb question from a lay person: is it possible that allegedly genetically linked illnesses are really the result of similar environmental exposures to pathogens or other environmental disruptors of some sort?
I think of neuroborreliosis, as a model, for example. Fallon has described bipolar disorder as the single presenting manifestation. Families live and have tick exposure together. Or asymptomatic mothers may carry their children and pass along congenital infections, which is known to happen with Lyme and ehrlichiosis, for example.
Why not other CNS infections, viral, parasitic and/or bacterial that we haven't connected to the outcomes?
Since borrelia are known to modulate host immunity, can some of these changes alter host genetics in any way?
Susan
Jim Chinnis - 21 Jul 2006 01:55 GMT Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part:
>x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >result of similar environmental exposures to pathogens or other >environmental disruptors of some sort? Here's a rilly, rilly dumb answer from a lay person: Sure. I assume you mean that a genetic phenotype makes one capable of developing multiple diseases if one is exposed to a pathogen, toxin, or such.
>I think of neuroborreliosis, as a model, for example. Fallon has >described bipolar disorder as the single presenting manifestation. >Families live and have tick exposure together. Or asymptomatic mothers >may carry their children and pass along congenital infections, which is >known to happen with Lyme and ehrlichiosis, for example. It would be hard to demostrate any genetic susceptibilty working within a family.
>Why not other CNS infections, viral, parasitic and/or bacterial that we >haven't connected to the outcomes? Why not?
>Since borrelia are known to modulate host immunity, can some of these >changes alter host genetics in any way? I doubt it.
(It's quiet here, so I thought I'd play geneticist and infectious disease expert.) -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Susan - 21 Jul 2006 15:05 GMT > Here's a rilly, rilly dumb answer from a lay person: Sure. I assume you mean > that a genetic phenotype makes one capable of developing multiple diseases > if one is exposed to a pathogen, toxin, or such. No, actually. I meant is the interpretation of the reason for the incidence incorrect. That shared exposures are the cause, rather than genetics.
> (It's quiet here, so I thought I'd play geneticist and infectious disease > expert.) > -- Yeah, I thought I'd play rilly, rilly dumb. ;-)
Susan
William Wagner - 21 Jul 2006 15:46 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Susan I think of back ground radiation causing a normal amount of defects or possible cancers. Then with added exposure like tobacco tars the defects or cancers may increase. Same for diesel exhaust , neural toxins etc. We know what TLV is but multiplied by many potential immune challenges remains unclear.
I try to avoid small particle size dust and anything that will not rot easily.
Bill
PS tobacco tars are radio active and stick to a lung cell and may cause a possible mutation.
Do not ask for documentation as this is conjecture or bull sh.t on my part. TLV = Threshold limit values.
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David Rind - 22 Jul 2006 02:47 GMT > So, here's a possibly rilly, rilly dumb question from a lay person: is > it possible that allegedly genetically linked illnesses are really the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan It's often hard to figure out whether clustering of conditions is genetic or environmental. For some diseases the question has been pretty clearly answered by twin studies: if you look at identical twins growing up in the same environment, and identical twins separated at birth, you can make a pretty clean distinction between environmental effects (at least those occurring after birth) and genetic effects.
That doesn't really have to do with my concerns about the article on certain genetic linkages with ALS. The issue here is that people will search through data for associations between genes and diseases, and the risk of such data dredging is that you will find associations due to chance that you mistakenly think represent cause and effect. Additionally, there might be a causal gene near the gene you are studying, and so you're just looking at the wrong one.
People with more expertise in bioinformatics/genomics can probably give a better answer than the above. In general, though, there are a lot of papers being published reporting genetic linkages that end up not being confirmed when repeated in other data sets. So I remain skeptical when hearing about some new genetic linkage, unless the data are overwhelming (as recently happened with a gene associated with macular degeneration).
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