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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / July 2006Chest pains and weight loss
Hi, I 'm new to this and don't know if this is the right place to be but, I'm quite worried about my mother in law. She has had several chest x-rays and checks and will never go back to the doctors for the results. They have requested she comes back many times and she ignores the requests. She is about 50 a heavy smoker and drinker and has very bad chest pains. She complains of shortness of breath and of a cronic stabbing pain in her chest. Since i have known her (about 4 years) she has drastically lost weight from about a size 10 to a size 6. this has been in the last 2 years about. She says there is nothing wrong with her but then in the next breath says she can't handle the pain any more. She has recently had pnemonia with a chest infection which hasn't helped anything. she still smokes and drinks and eats very little if at all. She can get very irratated and aggressive vocally over the smallest things and it seems to be getting more frequent. She won't go to the doctors or the hospital any more, she says she's had enough, she says she doesn't care any more. She has 5 children and 2 of them are not even in there teens yet (6 and 12) she phisically looks like she's wasting away. Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her. it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this. Thank You so much. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Thank You so much. medecine can do very little for her.. she needs some loving care. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Thank You so much. Sounds like classic alcoholism is the main problem. Get her in a dry out clinic for six or eight weeks for starters. Short of doing that she will likely not last real long. When alcoholics stop eating the liver damage comes fast and severe. The alcoholism is likely the problem behind the volitile temper. Any attempt at a home cure is not likely to work for any length of time at all. She will deny she has a drinking problem I am sure. They all do. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her. > it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this. Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for counseling. Many of these folks in private practice will typically will have cozy offices in converted homes that are away from the usual medical settings of hospitals and medical office buildings. Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to GOD the Father in Jesus' name works. > Thank You so much. You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA. http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife > Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to > GOD the Father in Jesus' name works. BULL sh.t. Prayer has been proven to be of NO benefit (previous recent studies are cited in this newsgroup)and, in some cases, can worsen a situation. Get her to a doctor! Andrew B. Chung wrote: > Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for > counseling. You try it first, and *then* advise her what she should do. Hi Andrew, Thank you for your support. I'm not a religious person as such but i don't think there has been another time in my life that i have started to believe than now. I will try all suggestions like some of the other kind people have offered. thank you all very very much >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA. >http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife > >> Hi, > >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I > >love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. > Hi Andrew, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thank you all very very much You are welcome. Would redirect all thanks and praises heavenward to GOD, from Whom all blessings flow. HE **can** change all hearts. Still praying for you, dear Dell. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife Dell via MedKB.com wrote: > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote: > >> Hi, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I > >love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. > Hi Andrew, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thank you all very very much You are welcome. Would redirect all thanks and praises heavenward to GOD, from Whom all blessings flow. HE **can** change all hearts. Still praying for you, dear Dell. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andrew, The man mentioned in 1 Kings 19:2 believed that he was alone. You may feel the same way at the end of some hard days. However, remember 1 Kings 19:18. You are NOT alone. Our prayers are with you. Thanks for helping people. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Andrew, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Jason > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Many thanks and praises to GOD for your kind heart. Your prayers are working... I am hungrier than ever :-) "... GOD humbled you, making you hungry... " (Deuteronomy 8:3) Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for many miles yesterday to see the famous Lenox Square fireworks in Atlanta yesterday which was almost a rainout... GOD's lightning bolts were more spectacular than the fireworks :-). Our combined weight was what I weighed more than 3 weeks ago and with her on my shoulders, we outwalked the rest of my group even up hills. It is because of the hunger and the strength that I **know** I am not alone but that the LORD's hand is on me. The hunger drives me giving me strength to perform the meaningful work that HE had planned for me to do beforehand (Proverbs 16:26). Again, all praise and glory to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife Andrew B. Chung wrote: > Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for > many miles yesterday to see the famous Lenox Square fireworks in > Atlanta yesterday which was almost a rainout... GOD's lightning bolts > were more spectacular than the fireworks :-). What a load of horse sh.t! The hallucinations have taken over, apparently. Your daughter Caty, Andy, is fourteen and lives thousands of miles away from you, as was her mother's wont - to get as far away from your twisted a.s as possible. You couldn't carry her on your shoulders for five yards, let alone many miles. Prove me wrong, a.shole. Why don't you stop lying, for once? Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet The Lord, pt. II (chungismybeyotch@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: <piggybacking> > Andrew B. Chung wrote: >> Still fasting day 23 of 40 Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day! Go Andrew, one more day!  SignatureUncle Vic aa Atheist #2011 Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind. -John Weatherly Previously, on alt.atheism, The Lord, pt. II in episode <1152251950.631278.21870@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>... > Andrew B. Chung wrote: >> Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for many [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What a load of horse sh.t! The hallucinations have taken over, apparently. Oh that happened a looooong time ago... SignatureMark K. Bilbo -------------------------------------------------- "As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans for everything bad that happened during and after Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people who lived here were much more prepared for a big storm than the federal government that promised us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry] http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC "Everything New Orleans" http://www.nola.com > Previously, on alt.atheism, The Lord, pt. II in episode > <1152251950.631278.21870@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Oh that happened a looooong time ago... His fasting probably uses the same method the people who live on air and *never* eat use. Burgers when they think nobody is watching. > Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for > many miles yesterday ...we > outwalked the rest of my group even up hills. Mt 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. > > Still fasting day 23 of 40. I guess Andrew Bee Chung read the article I posted a while back and decided to try it. If he truly is following a fast, he won't be here much longer to annoy us. Bye-bye http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=694092006 > > Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for > > many miles yesterday ...we [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in > secret himself shall reward thee openly. Fasting is not alms, dear brother. Source: http://www.m-w.com Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife "Fasting is not alms, dear brother." Correct, but other scripture speaks as well of public boasting about fasting and other acts of Pharisees. > "Fasting is not alms, dear brother." > > Correct, but other scripture speaks as well of public boasting about > fasting and other acts of Pharisees. I am not a Pharisee by any stretch of the imagination. All praise and glory to LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife "I am not a Pharisee by any stretch of the imagination." Please forgive me, the measure is not in the Words of the Pharisee as they publically elevate themselves, but in their actions measured against the scale of our Lord in His many examples of what a Pharisee does. > "I am not a Pharisee by any stretch of the imagination." > > Please forgive me You are forgiven as far as I am concerned. >, the measure is not in the Words of the Pharisee as they > publically elevate themselves, but in their actions measured against the > scale of our Lord in His many examples of what a Pharisee does. Yes, some Pharisees publicly elevate themselves among their peers by performing public acts (public prayer, fasting, alms et cetera) that are deemed "good" by their peers. Such acts could very well be acts of self-glorification as they may seem to be outwardly with only the LORD knowing whether this is also the case inwardly. Such folks receive praise from mortals for their outward display of "good" works and so it is written they have received their reward already. On this side of the cross, born-again Christians know that we are not saved by such "good" works but by our faith in Christ Jesus as our LORD, our Savior, and our GOD **and** HIS infinite mercy and grace in purchasing us from our deadly sins with HIS OWN blood. And, so it remains my choice to continue to walk with Christ, Whom I love with all my being as HE guides me in everything I say, do, and write. This I do without fear of anything in this world though I tremble inside with fear and awe of HIM. Indeed, I joyfully receive the world's insults and ridicule for my unwavering choice to be openly Christian because such slings and arrows from the world serve well to prove that there has been no self-glorification. All praises and glory to LORD GOD Almighty now and forevermore. Still praying for you, dear neighbor. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife "On this side of the cross, born-again Christians know that we are not saved by such "good" works but by our faith in Christ Jesus as our LORD, our Savior, and our GOD **and** HIS infinite mercy and grace in purchasing us from our deadly sins with HIS OWN blood." Correct, which makes instances of Pharisee like display of works and intentional actions to draw attention to them all the more obvious as seen measured against the scale our Lord provided. "Indeed, I joyfully receive the world's insults and ridicule for my unwavering choice to be openly Christian because such slings and arrows from the world serve well to prove that there has been no self-glorification." Forgive me, I don't think this is really the kind of Pharisee like public behavior that measures well against the scales our Lord provided to us as to the way we are to act as Christians and to avoid even the image of being the Pharisee such as in such triumphal self proclamations of our "good works". > > "I am not a Pharisee by any stretch of the imagination." > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Christian because such slings and arrows from the world serve well to > prove that there has been no self-glorification. Matthew 6 17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; 18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Why are you supposed to anoint your head and wash your face when you fast? So that you don't even as much as appear to be fasting to men, and so your Father who is in "secret", and who sees in "secret",.shall reward you openly. Key word: "secret". That means "men" don't know you are fasting. Do you get it now, or are you going to keep updating the whole world about your fast? Simply slapping the phrase "glory to God" after telling everyone you are fasting, isn't enough. Fast in "secret". > > > "I am not a Pharisee by any stretch of the imagination." > > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Why are you supposed to anoint your head and wash your face when you > fast? To glorify GOD, Who is humbling you by making you hungry... (Deuteronomy 8:3) > So that you don't even as much as appear to be fasting to men, > and so your Father who is in "secret", and who sees in "secret",.shall > reward you openly. The Holy Spirit has led me to fast and not the other way around as is the case for some who claim their motivation is for a closer walk with GOD. > Key word: "secret". That means "men" don't know you are fasting. Do > you get it now, or are you going to keep updating the whole world about > your fast? The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write. > Simply slapping the phrase "glory to God" after telling > everyone you are fasting, isn't enough. Fast in "secret". It is wiser to simply obey GOD in all things in the manner of HIS choosing. Again, we are on this side of the cross with the Holy Spirit guiding us to do things in ways that are unfathomable by those of this world. It is written that those reborn of water and the Holy Spirit are like the wind which the world knows not its comings and goings. Truth is simple. You remind me of Simon Peter asking LORD Jesus about John's walk with HIM. Remember that Jesus' response was "What is it to you?" Our LORD's peace be with you, dear brother. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife "It is wiser to simply obey GOD in all things in the manner of HIS choosing." "It is wiser to simply obey GOD in all things in the manner of HIS choosing." Correct, but it was also the manner of the Pharisee to evoke God as being in favor of their self glory and public acts. Our Lord gave us a scale against which to measure as to being a Pharisee, such things as public gestures of prayer and fasting and self righteous judgement toward others and so on were all done in the Name of God. I wonder if taking the name of God in vain includes this? Please forgive me if I offend, the scale our Lord gave is not in words someone proclaims about their self righteousness but in the behavior of their "fruit" by which the measure is done. All men would declare themselves holy if given a choice, it is part of our fallen state against which we must guard. The only measure of holy is the scales given us by our Lord and He alone will judge our holiness. >"It is wiser to simply obey GOD in all things in the manner of HIS >choosing." [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >of >God in vain includes this? Is it not also the manner of the Pharisee to critically scrutinize the walk of another, rather than tending to the log in their own eye? Just wonderin'. Blessings, John "Is it not also the manner of the Pharisee to critically scrutinize the walk of another, rather than tending to the log in their own eye?" Yes, as I have made mention of often in this context in past posts, "god have mercy on me a sinner". We are to also remind one another in humility when those among us stray in our behavior, salvation being known only to God. >"Is it not also the manner of the Pharisee to critically scrutinize the >walk of another, rather than tending to the log in their own eye?" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >when those among us stray in our behavior, salvation being known only to >God. Is over and over again reminding "in humility"? Blessings, John |
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