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Andrew B. Chung, M.D.,Ph.D. MAY be leaving us soon....

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blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 02 May 2006 17:45 GMT
Maybe, quite possibly, Andrew Chung and others who do not have 666 on
their forehead will be leaving our planet on 6/6/06, in less than a
month.  Perhaps those of us left behind should get together and "glow?"

"....others believe that the world is coming closer to what is widely
known as "the rapture" - the moment the Lord calls the Christian
faithful home and millions of born-again evangelicals will suddenly
disappear from the Earth, leaving non-believers behind...."

see:  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2158015,00.html
Kurt Gavin - 02 May 2006 21:27 GMT
> Maybe, quite possibly, Andrew Chung and others who do not have 666 on
> their forehead will be leaving our planet on 6/6/06, in less than a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> faithful home and millions of born-again evangelicals will suddenly
> disappear from the Earth, leaving non-believers behind...."

Another Tim LeHaye novel, with an OCD victim as the hero?
Kumar - 03 May 2006 02:42 GMT
> Maybe, quite possibly, Andrew Chung and others who do not have 666 on
> their forehead will be leaving our planet on 6/6/06, in less than a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> see:  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2158015,00.html

It may happen due to destruction phase--which may be progressing
now...on deviating from the LORD/GOD or from BALANCE.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 May 2006 04:38 GMT
> Maybe, quite possibly, Andrew Chung and others who do not have 666 on
> their forehead will be leaving our planet on 6/6/06, in less than a
> month.

That would depend on the LORD's infinite will.

> Perhaps those of us left behind should get together and "glow?"

Without the light of the truth, there will be no light.

Still praying for you, dear Lisa whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only precious Son, Jesus.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 04 May 2006 05:42 GMT
Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
destruction phase can't be materialized. So good people should consider
it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 May 2006 11:57 GMT
> Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> destruction phase can't be materialized.

Human nature is by default sinful since the original sin committed by
Adam and Eve.

The wages of sin is death.

> So good people

No such thing.  We are all sinful.

> should consider
> it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most precious
and most holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
JessHC - 05 May 2006 19:52 GMT
> > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > destruction phase can't be materialized.
>
> Human nature is by default sinful since the original sin committed by
> Adam and Eve.

So god made us sinful, and punishes us for it.  That seems fair.
Kumar - 06 May 2006 04:31 GMT
> > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> So god made us sinful, and punishes us for it.  That seems fair.

No LORD made us balanced with free will. We are initiated towards
imbalances by free will or due to environmental factors. Devils and
angels both come from the LORD( prime source of everything or being)
unabling us to balance the imbalances caused by our free will. Pursuing
Imbalancing on any side is sinful and pursuing towards  balancing is
good deed/act.(understand diabetes
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 12:42 GMT
> > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> So god made us sinful

No. The sins of Adam and Eve made us sinful.

> , and punishes us for it.

That depends on whether we repent and accept Jesus' offer of salvation.

Adam and Eve turned away from GOD.

Jesus is our opportunity to turn back to HIM....  to make us right
before GOD like HIS Son instead of wrong before GOD like Adam and Eve.

> That seems fair.

It is right.

Still praying for you, dear Jessie whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
away our sins thereby saving us from eternal death and hell (Indeed, HE
now has the keys to both).

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 06 May 2006 04:19 GMT
> > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > destruction phase can't be materialized.
>
> Human nature is by default sinful since the original sin committed by
> Adam and Eve.

It can be sinful or for good deeds (btw what word is opposite to sin)
depending on previous accumulations?
> The wages of sin is death.

The wages of Imbalances can be sufferings alike diabetes in which
suger(nutrient) is good thing for body but its imbalances can cause
sufferings. LORD do teaches us and indicates before extreme step.
> > So good people
>
> No such thing.  We are all sinful.

No, but previous debit accumulation of sins may be much more now than
what we can maximum credit to these by all good deeds.

> > should consider
> > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
>
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most precious
> and most holy name.
Thanks, all those  who love each other also exchange graces of LORD on
them.

> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 May 2006 08:41 GMT
> > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It can be sinful or for good deeds (btw what word is opposite to sin)
> depending on previous accumulations?

The opposite of sin is faith in GOD.

> > The wages of sin is death.
>
> The wages of Imbalances can be sufferings alike diabetes in which
> suger(nutrient) is good thing for body but its imbalances can cause
> sufferings. LORD do teaches us and indicates before extreme step.

The LORD teaches us to place our faith in HIM.

> > > So good people
> >
> > No such thing.  We are all sinful.
>
> No, but previous debit accumulation of sins may be much more now than
> what we can maximum credit to these by all good deeds.

No amount of good deeds will erase our sins.

> > > should consider
> > > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
> >
> > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most precious
> > and most holy name.

> Thanks, all those  who love each other also exchange graces of LORD on
> them.

Thanks be to GOD, Maker of heaven and earth.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 06 May 2006 09:12 GMT
> > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The opposite of sin is faith in GOD.

I meant " ANTOMYN OF SIN". I think it is not included in english
dictonary, but available in other langulage as "punya" in
sanskrit/Hindi. May be due to that there can't be good deeds in credit,
now?

> > > The wages of sin is death.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The LORD teaches us to place our faith in HIM.

....and so in BALANCE.

> > > > So good people
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> No amount of good deeds will erase our sins.
Possibily.
> > > > should consider
> > > > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thanks be to GOD, Maker of heaven and earth.

May also be of hell.

> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 06 May 2006 12:59 GMT
> > > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> sanskrit/Hindi. May be due to that there can't be good deeds in credit,
> now?

Yes, no amount of good deeds remove sin.

> > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> ....and so in BALANCE.

Faith in GOD is neither balance nor harmony.

> > > > > So good people
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> > No amount of good deeds will erase our sins.

> Possibily.

It is so written.

> > > > > should consider
> > > > > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> May also be of hell.

This is not written.  However, it is written that since HIS
resurrection, LORD Jesus Christ now has the keys to both death and hell.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 06 May 2006 16:34 GMT
> > > > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Yes, no amount of good deeds remove sin.
No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
reduced by good deeds.
> > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Faith in GOD is neither balance nor harmony.
But LORD/GOD can be a  perfect balance so can teach/initiate us to
become alike.

> > > > > > So good people
> > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> It is so written.
But still can reduce these...till we are alike "prime force".
> > > > > > should consider
> > > > > > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> This is not written.  However, it is written that since HIS
> resurrection, LORD Jesus Christ now has the keys to both death and hell.

LORD, source of everything, also made that.

> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2006 04:12 GMT
> > > > > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> reduced by good deeds.

No reduction either.

> > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> >
> > Faith in GOD is neither balance nor harmony.

> But LORD/GOD can be a  perfect balance so can teach/initiate us to
> become alike.

The problem is our sinful nature and not our lack of balance.

> > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >
> > It is so written.

> But still can reduce these...till we are alike "prime force".

No, we can not reduce our sins with any amount of "good" deeds.

> > > > > > > should consider
> > > > > > > it as HIS/Nature's system of balance, so shouldn't take/feel otherwise.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> LORD, source of everything, also made that.

HE did not make sin.  Similarly, HE did not make death, nothingness, nor
hell.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
most holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 07 May 2006 05:21 GMT
> > > > > > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > > > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> No reduction either.

Then, what is the use of doing good deeds?
> > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> The problem is our sinful nature and not our lack of balance.

Is it somewhat alike pre-disposed or evolved disease?
> > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> HE did not make sin.  Similarly, HE did not make death, nothingness, nor
> hell.
Whether sprituals have some scientific/quantum basis?
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> most holy name.
Thanks. I understand some system(spritual side drug based) by which I
may alter most of body process/mechanisms and just be a defficiency of
today's understanding but still may not be entitled due to our sin.By
such prayers I am learning many secrets/hidden or not yet known aspects
in healing and otherwise.
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2006 05:52 GMT
> > > > > > > > > Unless people are initiated to do bads, opposites and otherwise,
> > > > > > > > > destruction phase can't be materialized.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Then, what is the use of doing good deeds?

To determine our place in HIS kingdom **after** salvation from death,
which is the wages of sin.

> > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Is it somewhat alike pre-disposed or evolved disease?

No.

> > > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> > HE did not make sin.  Similarly, HE did not make death, nothingness, nor
> > hell.

> Whether sprituals have some scientific/quantum basis?

It is the other way around, the LORD GOD Almighty is the source of all
knowledge and wisdom.

> > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > most holy name.

> Thanks. I understand some system(spritual side drug based) by which I
> may alter most of body process/mechanisms and just be a defficiency of
> today's understanding but still may not be entitled due to our sin.By
> such prayers I am learning many secrets/hidden or not yet known aspects
> in healing and otherwise.

May GOD help you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's one
and only begotten Son, Jesus.

Amen.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 07 May 2006 06:07 GMT
>> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > reduced by good deeds.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> To determine our place in HIS kingdom **after** salvation from death,
> which is the wages of sin.
Pursuing to resist pruning, thining of excess, dead, diseased or
otherwise unusable and harmful branches/trees, or good deeds before
getting wages of accumulated sins to carry nature's balance, can also
be a sin, may be against HIS system.  There are also some limits to our
free will alike within boat...otherwise fall into river or over-turning
of boat.
> > > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> No.
Can predispositions be aquired?
> > > > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> It is the other way around, the LORD GOD Almighty is the source of all
> knowledge and wisdom.
Right, "The PRIME FORCE" of all forces.
> > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > > most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Amen.

Thanks again. Can Jesus be both LORD and GOD?
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2006 11:43 GMT
> >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > reduced by good deeds.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > To determine our place in HIS kingdom **after** salvation from death,
> > which is the wages of sin.

> Pursuing to resist pruning, thining of excess, dead, diseased or
> otherwise unusable and harmful branches/trees, or good deeds before
> getting wages of accumulated sins to carry nature's balance, can also
> be a sin, may be against HIS system.  There are also some limits to our
> free will alike within boat...otherwise fall into river or over-turning
> of boat.

The LORD has not placed any limits on the free will that HE has
generously given us.

> > > > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> >
> > No.

> Can predispositions be aquired?

No.

> > > > > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> > It is the other way around, the LORD GOD Almighty is the source of all
> > knowledge and wisdom.

> Right, "The PRIME FORCE" of all forces.

No.

The Creator of heaven and earth.

> > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > > > most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks again. Can Jesus be both LORD and GOD?

Yes, HE is.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 07 May 2006 12:09 GMT
> > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> The LORD has not placed any limits on the free will that HE has
> generously given us.

Had HE classified good deeds and bad deeds/sin of our acts and deeds by
this free will?

What acts then can be good acts or sins?
> > > > > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> > >
> > > No.
How and who had created our sinful nature?

> > Can predispositions be aquired?
>
> No.
Can we aquire sinful nature or add to it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> The Creator of heaven and earth.
What can create heaven, earthe and hell?
> > > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > > > > most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Yes, HE is.

Sorry, Pls define (again i think) LORD, GOD and Son of God.
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2006 13:50 GMT
> > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Had HE classified good deeds and bad deeds/sin of our acts and deeds by
> this free will?

The LORD GOD Almighty will be judging all of our thoughts and actions in
the end of the end times.

> What acts then can be good acts or sins?

Only HE knows.  This is why only HE can save us.

> > > > > > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> How and who had created our sinful nature?

Through Adam and Adam's original sin we were made sinful.

> > > Can predispositions be aquired?
> >
> > No.

> Can we aquire sinful nature or add to it?

No.  We are simply sinful.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So good people
> > > > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> >
> > The Creator of heaven and earth.

> What can create heaven, earthe and hell?

The LORD GOD Almighty has created heaven and earth.  Hell is eternal
separation from GOD and was created by sin.

> > > > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > > > > > most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Sorry, Pls define (again i think) LORD, GOD and Son of God.

One and the same.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 07 May 2006 20:17 GMT
> > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
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>
> Only HE knows.  This is why only HE can save us.
What we can do?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The wages of sin is death.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> The LORD GOD Almighty has created heaven and earth.  Hell is eternal
> separation from GOD and was created by sin.

Good thoughts, means, GOD had not created anything bad for us? HE
created all good but we only added bads/sins?
> > > > > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> > > > > > > most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> One and the same.
Can't these be different forms from "prime to gross" with some alike
qualities of prime?
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 07 May 2006 23:54 GMT
> > > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
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> >
> > Only HE knows.  This is why only HE can save us.

> What we can do?

Trust HIM by placing your faith in HIM.

  For GOD loves you so much, HE sent HIS one and only begotten Son,
Jesus to die on the cross so that you would have the opportunity to have
all your sins removed by Jesus' selfless act of dying on the cross on
your behalf (John 3:16).

  All you have to do is acknowledge through faith that this has
happened by confessing this publicly to others so that you will receive
the love of Christ into your heart thereby receiving HIS salvation:

"Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
sins."  

Simply write it in your own words here on USENET and you will have HIS
salvation, which is the eternal life that only HE can give.

To receive the Holy Spirit to help you, especially in these times, while
you remain in this world as a child of Christ, ask a Christian to
baptize you in the holy name of GOD the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
JessHC - 08 May 2006 00:26 GMT
> > > > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
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>
> Trust HIM by placing your faith in HIM.

Please do it elsewhere.  Like in your closet, as per your lord's
commandments.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 12:42 GMT
> > > > > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
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> Please do it elsewhere.  Like in your closet, as per your lord's
> commandments.

Actually, it is written that this proclamation of faith should be done
publicly before witnesses.  Where there is fear of the world there can
be no faith in GOD.

Still praying for you, dear Jessie whom I love in Jesus' most precious
and holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 08 May 2006 04:57 GMT
> > > > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
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>
> Trust HIM by placing your faith in HIM.

Yes and in HIS system.
>    For GOD loves you so much, HE sent HIS one and only begotten Son,
> Jesus to die on the cross so that you would have the opportunity to have
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> sins."

Indicated, death is wage of sin.

> Simply write it in your own words here on USENET and you will have HIS
> salvation, which is the eternal life that only HE can give.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Yes as balance.
> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 05:22 GMT
> > > > > > > >> > > > No amount of good deeds may be able clear current debt but still can be
> > > > > > > > > > > reduced by good deeds.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Yes and in HIS system.

No, just HIM.

> >    For GOD loves you so much, HE sent HIS one and only begotten Son,
> > Jesus to die on the cross so that you would have the opportunity to have
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Indicated, death is wage of sin.

You now know the way to GOD's forgiveness of your sins and HIS gift of
eternal life.

> > Simply write it in your own words here on USENET and you will have HIS
> > salvation, which is the eternal life that only HE can give.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Yes as balance.

No, the LORD is not "balance" but the way, the truth, and the life.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only cherished Son, Jesus.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 08 May 2006 08:57 GMT
> > Yes and in HIS system.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> You now know the way to GOD's forgiveness of your sins and HIS gift of
> eternal life.
Can all deaths be considered as wage of sin?
> > > Simply write it in your own words here on USENET and you will have HIS
> > > salvation, which is the eternal life that only HE can give.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> No, the LORD is not "balance" but the way, the truth, and the life.

> LORD may show/teach us to "balance" which is the way, the truth and the life?

> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> one and only cherished Son, Jesus.

Thanks. It will add.
> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 11:32 GMT
> > > Yes and in HIS system.
> >
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>
> Can all deaths be considered as wage of sin?

No.  It is death of the soul that is the wages of sin:

http://tinyurl.com/j93qy

> > > > Simply write it in your own words here on USENET and you will have HIS
> > > > salvation, which is the eternal life that only HE can give.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Thanks. It will add.

You are welcome, Kumar.

Again all thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, and strength.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 08 May 2006 12:02 GMT
> > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> No.  It is death of the soul that is the wages of sin:

Death of soul should be on salvation, libretion or "Moksha", when soul
in mixed in GOD and become alike HIS or alike "prime force".

> http://tinyurl.com/j93qy
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 12:42 GMT
> > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Death of soul should be on salvation

Death of soul is eternal separation from GOD, Who is timeless.  This is
the opposite of salvation, which is eternal life through and with GOD.

> , libretion or "Moksha", when soul
> in mixed in GOD and become alike HIS or alike "prime force".

It is written that GOD is not a "god of the dead" but GOD of the
living.  

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
away our sins thereby saving us from eternal death and hell (Indeed, HE
now has the keys to both).

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 08 May 2006 12:59 GMT
> > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > >
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> It is written that GOD is not a "god of the dead" but GOD of the
> living.
Just consider soul as an emitted or reflected spectrum of
energies/forces at the time of death. Specific spectrum: specific soul,
no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
> away our sins thereby saving us from eternal death and hell (Indeed, HE
> now has the keys to both).

If anyone do something good to save etc., but still is against the Law
of God valid for that time, what can be the God's attitude towards
that? ...Putting seeds of trees, Planting more trees or protecting all
type of excess, dead or diseased growths/branches-- in already
congested jungle is what in maintainance or carry forward sense--a good
deed or sin?
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 13:22 GMT
> > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Just consider soul as an emitted or reflected spectrum of
> energies/forces at the time of death.

The soul is more than that.  Infinitely more.

> Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.

It is our souls which have been made in GOD's image and not our bodies.

> > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> > one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of God valid for that time, what can be the God's attitude towards
> that?

We do not have the power to save anyone.  Only the LORD has the power to
save any of us.  Again, HE now has the keys to both death and hell.

> ...Putting seeds of trees, Planting more trees or protecting all
> type of excess, dead or diseased growths/branches-- in already
> congested jungle is what in maintainance or carry forward sense--a good
> deed or sin?

Even what the world judges to be "good" is actually evil if done outside
the will of GOD.

This is why it is written that there will be those who will reach the
narrow gate to heaven but not be allowed to go through even though they
have done many "good" things in the name of the LORD ("I do not know
you. Depart from ME you evildoers").

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
away our sins thereby saving us from eternal death and hell (Again, HE
now has the keys to both).

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 08 May 2006 15:28 GMT
> > > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> The soul is more than that.  Infinitely more.

More than that can by "prime force".
> > Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> > no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
>
> It is our souls which have been made in GOD's image and not our bodies.

Every energy ,force, matter, soul, body...should have come from one
"prime force" due to omni-presency,. What such "prime force" is,  is
sad to be indescribibale by commons.

> > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> > > one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> We do not have the power to save anyone.  Only the LORD has the power to
> save any of us.  Again, HE now has the keys to both death and hell.

Yes, but we should know what is good or evil unabling to follow
accordingly.

> > ...Putting seeds of trees, Planting more trees or protecting all
> > type of excess, dead or diseased growths/branches-- in already
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Even what the world judges to be "good" is actually evil if done outside
> the will of GOD.
Yes...outside the balance.
> This is why it is written that there will be those who will reach the
> narrow gate to heaven but not be allowed to go through even though they
> have done many "good" things in the name of the LORD ("I do not know
> you. Depart from ME you evildoers").

Bad debts of sins or balance of sins or deviations from HIM can still
be there inspite of many good deeds.
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
> away our sins thereby saving us from eternal death and hell (Again, HE
> now has the keys to both).
Thanks. It will add/help. Howerver degradations and reformations of new
spectrums of specific spectrum on death..soul can be thought as death
of soul/specific spectrum whereas, its merging with prime force on
converting into prime force can be thought as salvation.

Two post in other/...predisposition topic are pending. Pls look.
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 08 May 2006 22:36 GMT
> > > > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> More than that can by "prime force".

But still infinitely less than LORD GOD Almighty.

> > > Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> > > no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Every energy ,force, matter, soul, body...should have come from one
> "prime force" due to omni-presency,.

Yes, GOD is our Creator.

> What such "prime force" is,  is
> sad to be indescribibale by commons.

It is written that by knowing Jesus, GOD the Son, we now know GOD the
Father.

> > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> > > > one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Yes, but we should know what is good or evil unabling to follow
> accordingly.

We suffer from the delusion of thinking we know what is either good or
evil ever since Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit from the "tree of
knowledge of good and evil" (Genesis 2:17) and lost their immortality.
It started with satan's untruthful claim that after eating the forbidden
fruit, Adam and Eve would become like GOD retaining their immortality
while gaining in the ability to distinguish good from evil (Genesis
3:4).  

This is a delusion because without GOD, there is nothing good in
anything we do (Ecclesiates).  Without the LORD, the wisdom we think we
have is a false one (Ecclesiastes).  The forbidden fruit has made us
judgmental so that we have the automatic tendency to form a delusional
opinion (judgment) about everything we experience. This automatic
tendency prevents us from loving GOD and loving others.  This is our
sinful nature in a nutshell.

LORD Jesus Christ knows this and has taught those who walk with HIM to
refrain from judging others (Matthew 7) for this very reason.  Judging
others is the firstfruit of our sinful nature.    

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most
praiseworthy and holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat today (05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
JessHC - 09 May 2006 03:51 GMT
> > > > > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> But still

                         PLEASE

                            f.ck

                               OFF
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 13:29 GMT
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
>                                 OFF

Sorry this bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive my iniquities.

Still praying for you.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 15:51 GMT
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com>

snip
> Sorry this bothers you so terribly.

Sorry, I'm such a royal pain in the a.s!

>  Please forgive my iniquities.

Please hit me upside the head with a brick!
blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 09 May 2006 17:10 GMT
Cool.  I will bet Andrew Bee Chung will get one

http://store.yahoo.com/toylounge/lassuplon.html
JessHC - 09 May 2006 20:50 GMT
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and in HIS system.
> > > > > > > > > > >
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> Sorry

STOP LYING.
Kumar - 09 May 2006 04:16 GMT
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > sins."
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> But still infinitely less than LORD GOD Almighty.
Every subsequent thing can be less/gross than "prime force" till it
merge into it.
> > > > Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> > > > no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Yes, GOD is our Creator.
Naturally, everything can be made from or a complex of "prime force".
> > What such "prime force" is,  is
> > sad to be indescribibale by commons.
>
> It is written that by knowing Jesus, GOD the Son, we now know GOD the
> Father.
There can be a difference between GOD/LORD and alike GOD or Son of GOD
as prime and gross levels with somwhat GOD's properties.
> > > > > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> > > > > one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who chose to die on the cross to take
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> refrain from judging others (Matthew 7) for this very reason.  Judging
> others is the firstfruit of our sinful nature.

In view of GOD is omnipresent and source of every thing and being, all
things and beings can be cosidered as HIS part so can't be
differenciated as good or evil...so can't be considered as bad or
wrong. Purpose of evils can be to balance the excessive good and of
good to balance excessive evils...so in real sense nothing can be
wrong. Anyone, who jugde any thing bad can be thinking wrong so called
sinful. If one consider everything and being a part of GOD, not bad, he
can have God's property. Balance can be a equal mixture of good and bad
and imbalance can be either excessive good with deficient bad OR
excessive bad with deficient good. So when you don't differenciate
betwwen good and bad or consider good as only good and bad as only bad,
it should be wrong which may be a cause of many adversities. Best
wishes.
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus' most
> praiseworthy and holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 08:14 GMT
> >> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > > sins."
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> >
> > But still infinitely less than LORD GOD Almighty.

> Every subsequent thing can be less/gross than "prime force" till it
> merge into it.

There is no merging.  There is either a lasting eternal relationship
with everlasting life or an eternal separation that includes death of
the soul.

> > > > > Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> > > > > no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >
> > Yes, GOD is our Creator.

> Naturally, everything can be made from or a complex of "prime force".

LORD GOD Almighty is infinitely more than a "prime force."  Indeed, all
the forces in the universe and even time bow to HIS infinite will.

> > > What such "prime force" is,  is
> > > sad to be indescribibale by commons.
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> things and beings can be cosidered as HIS part so can't be
> differenciated as good or evil...

Not the case ever since HIS generous gift of free will allowing each of
us to be separate distinct entities from HIM.  It started with satan
falling away.

> so can't be considered as bad or
> wrong.

Actually, can be through choice that arises from free will.

> Purpose of evils can be to balance the excessive good and of
> good to balance excessive evils...

No.  There is no purpose for evil/sin except in the current world as we
know it.  However, soon there will be a new world... one made anew where
there will be no place for sin and evildoers.

> so in real sense nothing can be
> wrong.

Untrue.  Many things in this current world are wrong.

> Anyone, who jugde any thing bad can be thinking wrong so called
> sinful.

It is LORD GOD Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, Who will judge.

> If one consider everything and being a part of GOD, not bad, he
> can have God's property. Balance can be a equal mixture of good and bad
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> it should be wrong which may be a cause of many adversities. Best
> wishes.

Worshipping balance is unwise.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the name of GOD's one
and only precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross so that our sins may
be forgiven through faith placed in HIM.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 09 May 2006 09:50 GMT
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sins."
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> with everlasting life or an eternal separation that includes death of
> the soul.

You may think fate of soul as "coming into prime force form",
"remaining into its form" or "changing its form to some new form/s".

> > > > > > Specific spectrum: specific soul,
> > > > > > no spectrum: no soul. Still energies without spectrum exists.
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> LORD GOD Almighty is infinitely more than a "prime force."  Indeed, all
> the forces in the universe and even time bow to HIS infinite will.
One "Prime force" of all four fundamental forces couldn't yet be
known/understood in science and is yet indescribable. We can comment
anything after we could be able to know and describe it.
> > > > What such "prime force" is,  is
> > > > sad to be indescribibale by commons.
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> > > refrain from judging others (Matthew 7) for this very reason.  Judging
> > > others is the firstfruit of our sinful nature.
We have two eyes, two ears, two nostrils which can make us to sense in
two manners but our brain may sense just one with just broad coverage.
Differeanciating among things--even good or evils can be prime reson of
imbalance. Ashamed of being naked may also indicated opting
unnaturality over naturality.
> > In view of GOD is omnipresent and source of every thing and being, all
> > things and beings can be cosidered as HIS part so can't be
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>
> Worshipping balance is unwise.
Should we not worship/prefer or pursue homeostais in our body and
perfect harmony among all things and beings in nature...i.e nature's
balance.
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the name of GOD's one
> and only precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross so that our sins may
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 12:24 GMT
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sins."
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> You may think fate of soul as "coming into prime force form",
> "remaining into its form" or "changing its form to some new form/s".

I have written plainly after receiving guidance from LORD GOD Almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth, Maker of the laws of the universe and all
time including this new day, Whose sovereignty is expressed in the very
laws of the universe bending to HIS infinite will.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross so that our sins
may be taken away when we receive salvation and eternal life through
placing our faith in HIM.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kumar - 09 May 2006 12:51 GMT
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sins."
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> time including this new day, Whose sovereignty is expressed in the very
> laws of the universe bending to HIS infinite will.
Yes, few entitled one can get HIS graces for spot regenarations of
basic understandings, logics, scientific meanings and understanding by
common people of spritiual indications etc. and helping others by
that...something new said to common people and that looks corret to
them without any previous interactions, indicates that everyone knows
in inside every real knowledge but may be dormant...as we must have
interacted with everything since our evolution..and as GOD in
omnipresent.

Best wishes.
> Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross so that our sins
> may be taken away when we receive salvation and eternal life through
> placing our faith in HIM.
Thanks. Anyone can benefit from true prayer which one should encourage
and thankful to that.

Sorry, I am watching other topics.
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 12:57 GMT
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, LORD Jesus Christ, holy Son of GOD, died on the cross for my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sins."
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> interacted with everything since our evolution..and as GOD in
> omnipresent.

There is no such thing as evolution.  LORD GOD Almighty created us.

> Best wishes.

Many thanks to GOD for your kind wishes.

> > Still praying for you, dear Kumar whom I love in the holy name of GOD's
> > one and only precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross so that our sins
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sorry, I am watching other topics.

You are forgiven as far as I am concerned.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal
(Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Free Lunch - 09 May 2006 12:58 GMT
...

>> Yes, few entitled one can get HIS graces for spot regenarations of
>> basic understandings, logics, scientific meanings and understanding by
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>There is no such thing as evolution.

You know that claim is false.

>LORD GOD Almighty created us.

If GOD created us, He used evolution, but there is no evidence that
there are any gods at all, so science cannot address the question.

>> Best wishes.
>
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>Andrew
>http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Kumar - 09 May 2006 13:17 GMT
> ...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> If GOD created us, He used evolution, but there is no evidence that
> there are any gods at all, so science cannot address the question.
We may be wrongly understanding the real logic behind any spritual
indication.
Suppose there is "prime force"(mother/father should be") of all known
forces in science, what can be its scope, properties etc?
> >> Best wishes.
> >
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> >Andrew
> >http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Free Lunch - 09 May 2006 23:56 GMT
>> ...
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> You know that claim is false.

I'm glad that you didn't try to argue this.

>> >LORD GOD Almighty created us.
>>
>> If GOD created us, He used evolution, but there is no evidence that
>> there are any gods at all, so science cannot address the question.

>We may be wrongly understanding the real logic behind any spritual
>indication.

There is no logic or evidence behind any 'spiritual indication'.

>Suppose there is "prime force"(mother/father should be") of all known
>forces in science, what can be its scope, properties etc?

It could be discovered. You want your mystical mumbo-jumbo to substitute
for science.

...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 09 May 2006 13:29 GMT
> ...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> You know that claim is false.

It is the truth.

Just as there is no such thing as chance.

"The lot is cast into the lap, however its every decision comes from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen!

> >LORD GOD Almighty created us.
>
> If GOD created us

HE did.

>, He used evolution

GOD used HIS powers.

>, but there is no evidence that
> there are any gods at all, so science cannot address the question.

There is no evidence of evolution and yet science holds up Darwin's ToE
for worship.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most awesome
and holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Free Lunch - 10 May 2006 00:01 GMT
>> ...
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>It is the truth.

Of course it isn't. You either know enough science to know that you have
lied or you are lying about your knowledge of science. No evidence
supports your stance.

>Just as there is no such thing as chance.

I'm not certain why you say that unless you have a special, private
definition for chance, but that has nothing to do with the fact that DNA
does not replicate perfectly and that there is a slow change in allele
frequency over time.

>"The lot is cast into the lap, however its every decision comes from the
>LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>GOD used HIS powers.

You ignored my point. Why do you DENY GOD the power to use evolution?
Who are you?

>>, but there is no evidence that
>> there are any gods at all, so science cannot address the question.
>
>There is no evidence of evolution and yet science holds up Darwin's ToE
>for worship.

Of course there is evidence for evolution and the the theory of
evolution is not worshipped. You have caught yourself in such a tight
relgious bind that you appear unable to look at things in any way other
than the doctrines you wrongly preach.

<snip>
Kumar - 10 May 2006 04:32 GMT
> > ...
> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Just as there is no such thing as chance.

Yes, every thing and being is not created and evolved "by chance" or
instantly but "from prime to gross. Energy can change the forms, energy
and matter can be converted into each other.
> "The lot is cast into the lap, however its every decision comes from the
> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Being prime force can be prime reasoning for everything,
> Amen!
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 10 May 2006 10:32 GMT
> > > ...
> > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Yes, every thing and being is not created and evolved "by chance"

Correct.

> or
> instantly but "from prime to gross.

Incorrect.

> Energy can change the forms, energy
> and matter can be converted into each other.

The LORD GOD Almighty is infinitely more than either energy or force.

Still praying for you, dear Kumar in the holy name of GOD's one and only
precious Son, Jesus, Who died on the cross to save us from our sins.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Kumar - 10 May 2006 10:42 GMT
> > > > ...
> > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Incorrect.

How? I am not talking about " borned".
> > Energy can change the forms, energy
> > and matter can be converted into each other.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 10 May 2006 11:18 GMT
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> How? I am not talking about " borned".

You are not writing about the LORD.

Will be keeping you in my prayers, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus'
supremely majestic and most holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal
(Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat(05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Kumar - 10 May 2006 16:30 GMT
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> You are not writing about the LORD.

Then? Is it HOLY SPRIT according to you?
> Will be keeping you in my prayers, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus'
> supremely majestic and most holy name.

Thanks, it will add and help.

These can be infinite discussions and considerations due to
individuality in people. So let us concentrate on other pending topics.

Best wishes.
> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 10 May 2006 16:52 GMT
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> >
> Then? Is it HOLY SPRIT according to you?

The Holy Spirit is infinitely more than either energy or force.

Moreover, GOD creates instantly.

> > Will be keeping you in my prayers, dear Kumar whom I love in Jesus'
> > supremely majestic and most holy name.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> These can be infinite discussions and considerations due to
> individuality in people. So let us concentrate on other pending topics.

Does not bother me to discuss the LORD for the rest of eternity.

> Best wishes.

Many thanks to GOD for your kind heart.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat today (05/11/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/mpuzr
Kumar - 10 May 2006 17:39 GMT
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Moreover, GOD creates instantly.

In some very ancient mythologies, Prime Goddess and God and their
various levels are well indicated. May be force/energy and
matter/particle. Since we might have not directly consituted in same
form as of prime force or matter, we may not be able to go upto that
level in understanding THEM and as such our body m