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Dr. Andrew B. Chung slipping hilariously off the rails

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redjac2006@yahoo.com - 17 Apr 2006 05:56 GMT
I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
nominate him for the 72 Raisins "Crackpot Religion" Award in the same
month?

Over the past weekend, ol' Chungy has taken to verbally stamping no
less than 26 different posters' foreheads with 666 (kinda hard to
explain):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_frm/thread/709938a569a6
5634/b0fe53208be8aee7#b0fe53208be8aee7


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/browse_frm/thread/e0d53d8b1fda
7546/a6a601d87819b99e#a6a601d87819b99e


...and others too numerous to mention here (search Google groups for
"666 stamp forehead")

The capper, however, was his recount of the morning of 3/29/06 (the day
of his 'global earthquake' as previously mentioned in AUK - again,
search Google groups for "global earthquake advisory"):

"Got up hours before dawn and prayed to my heavenly Father continuously
until my nose started bleeding...the bleeding happened because it was
my choice to pray intensely with fervor.  There were others with
similar experiences.  Perhaps collectively, we convinced GOD to delay
the inevitable annihilation of the world as we know it."

I hereby nominate Andrew B. Chung for the AUK 72 Raisins "Crackpot
Religion" Award .

Thank you for your consideration.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2006 10:45 GMT
> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> less than 26 different posters' foreheads with 666 (kinda hard to
> explain):

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to stamp
anybody with any mark as is the purpose of the beast of satan.

The mark on your forehead was stealthly put there by satan's beast long
before my informing you that it is there.

Here is Jesus' message to you:

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
father's desire.  He was a murdererer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him.  When he lies, he speaks his
native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." --LORD Jesus
Christ (John 8:44)

Still praying for you, dear Jack whom I love in Jesus' most precious and
holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
GaryG - 17 Apr 2006 15:10 GMT
> > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to stamp
> anybody with any mark as is the purpose of the beast of satan.

And yet, you choose to not inform us as to your hospital admitting status.

> The mark on your forehead was stealthly put there by satan's beast long
> before my informing you that it is there.

Or, it could all be a delusion (given your medical training, this would seem
to be the much more likely cause, wouldn't you?).

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2006 11:15 GMT
> > > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> > > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> And yet, you choose to not inform us as to your hospital admitting status.

Correct.

The LORD continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

GaryG - 18 Apr 2006 14:24 GMT
> > > > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> > > > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Correct.

Amen and amen!

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 07:35 GMT
> > > > > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> > > > > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Amen and amen!

Indeed :-)

Still praying for you, dear Gary whom I love in Jesus' most precious and
holy name.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and ASD that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or diabetes.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 13:47 GMT
>> > > > > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> > > > > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> "Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM."
> (Matthew 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

Where was the straight path for Jesus so that the people could come to
him?

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

> "Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
> rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
> 40:4)

Well this didn't happen in Jesus time either.

<SNIP>

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 15:30 GMT
> >> > > > > I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> > > > > nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
> leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

LORD Jesus Christ is HIMSELF the straight and narrow path.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..."  -- LORD GOD Almighty

Amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

> > "Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
> > rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
> > 40:4)
>
> Well this didn't happen in Jesus time either.

And so it remains in the future, possibly in less than two weeks if the
deadline issued by the UN Security Council on 3/29/06 against Iran is
enforced with nuclear missiles.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most awesome
and holy name.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 17:23 GMT
Yawn

and refuted in another post.

<SNIP>

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 07:55 GMT
> Yawn

Sorry to bore you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 20 Apr 2006 15:47 GMT
>> Yawn
>
> Sorry to bore you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

Why should I forgive you I feel only pity for you.  

But you are a person who must have the "last" word so it seems.

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Don Kirkman - 20 Apr 2006 00:35 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <44464994.9838C238@heartmdphd.com>:

[. . .]

>> Where was the straight path for Jesus so that the people could come to
>> him?

>> Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
>> leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

>LORD Jesus Christ is HIMSELF the straight and narrow path.

>> > "Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
>> > rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
>> > 40:4)

>> Well this didn't happen in Jesus time either.

Maybe it's time for a Bible lesson AND an English lesson, since both of
you are blathering on about "straight" and "strait" as though they mean
the same thing.  Isaiah and Matthew 3:3 are talking about straight -
with no curves or turns; Matthew 7:14 is talking about "strait" -
narrow, limiting, "strict" which is the meaning of the ancestral Latin
word.  The English idiom is "strait and narrow," a path can be straight
without being narrow, but it can't be narrow without being strait.
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 10:02 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <44464994.9838C238@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> word.  The English idiom is "strait and narrow," a path can be straight
> without being narrow, but it can't be narrow without being strait.

The LORD is the source of all knowledge and wisdom.

Without the LORD, there can be neither.

Still praying for you, dear Don whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kurt Gavin - 18 Apr 2006 15:47 GMT
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in >

> My DEMENTIA continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.
quibbler - 17 Apr 2006 18:17 GMT
> The LORD's purpose

The LOAD's purpose is to get you to swallow it and you swallow the load
of jebus every day.

> for me here remains to inform and not to stamp
> anybody with any mark as is the purpose of the beast of satan.

As opposed to the mushroom shaped bruises and spooge stains stamped on
your head.  Maybe you should stop fellating jesus for at least five
minutes.

> The mark on your forehead was stealthly put there by satan's beast long
> before my informing you that it is there.

You think that childish nonsense scares anybody.  I'd put the mark there
myself if I thought it meant anything.  

> Here is Jesus' message to you:

f.ck your fictional jesus and f.ck you.

> "You belong to your father, the devil,

The primary difference between the devil and your god is just that your
god is more depraved in his setting up of Saddam Hussein style torture
chambers for his opponents.

> and you want to carry out your
> father's desire.  He was a murdererer from the beginning

Jesus is apparently projecting based upon his own insecurities and
character flaws.

>, not holding to
> the truth, for there is no truth in him.  When he lies, he speaks his
> native language

Jesus and John understood that language because it was their native
tongue too.  

>, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

And jesus is the son of lies.

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     Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate."  -- Richard Dawkins

Kurt Gavin - 17 Apr 2006 21:45 GMT
>> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to stamp
> anybody with any mark as is the purpose of the beast of satan.

Chung,
You are worshipping an imposter satanic entity (jesus). That is why those
people in the praying study got sicker, that you got that nose bleed, and
that your mind is going.

You must worship Yahweh only, otherwise you are condemned to agony for all
time. Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods before
him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.

God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you out
of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 03:54 GMT
> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Chung,
> You are worshipping an imposter satanic entity (jesus).

My prayers are to GOD the Father as Jesus teaches.

> That is why those
> people in the praying study got sicker,

Actually, I do not know to whom those folks prayed because 2/3rds were
Catholic.

> that you got that nose bleed,

It was my choice to pray as long and as intense as I did.

> and that your mind is going.

You remind me of the blind man who would evaluate the vision of the
seeing.

> You must worship Yahweh only, otherwise you are condemned to agony for all
> time.

LORD GOD Almighty remains the only GOD for me.

> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods before
> him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.

Actually, when I kneel to pray, it is before LORD GOD Almighty and not
anything man-made.

> God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you out
> of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
> Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in
> the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do not
> bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
> demands exclusive worship.

HE has my exclusive worship.  It remains my choice to love GOD with all
my heart, soul, mind and strength.

Still praying for you, dear Kurt whom I love in Jesus' most exalted and
holy name.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and ASD that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or diabetes.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 13:44 GMT
<SNIP>

>> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
>> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
>
> Actually, when I kneel to pray, it is before LORD GOD Almighty and
> not anything man-made.

So then every time you pray you leave your home and go outdoors?
if you pray indoors you do so by being surrounded by man-made
"things"...

>  
>> God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you out
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> "Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
> 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

Yeah tell me where were the "straight" path is (KJV: "highway") and why
did Jesus say there was only a narrow road that leads to life:

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Looks to me the "road-builder" goofed and didn't' make this required
"straight path (highway) or road.

<SNIP>

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 15:30 GMT
> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> if you pray indoors you do so by being surrounded by man-made
> "things"...

I have written plainly.

> >> God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you out
> >> of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Looks to me the "road-builder" goofed and didn't' make this required
> "straight path (highway) or road.

LORD Jesus Christ is HIMSELF the straight and narrow path.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..."  -- LORD GOD Almighty

Amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most glorious
and holy name.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and ASD that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or diabetes.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 17:43 GMT
>> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
>> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I have written plainly.

LOL

>> >> God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you out
>> >> of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> LORD Jesus Christ is HIMSELF the straight and narrow path.

Then there was no need for the prophets to speak about the "HIGHWAY"
and it took you quite some time to come up with this "excuse"!

> "I am the way, the truth, and the life..."  -- LORD GOD Almighty

Jesus never claimed to be the "God". He made a clear distinction
between himself and God.  

Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good -except God
alone.

Luke 18:19
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good -except God
alone.

But as I told you in another post, I'm not about to waste more time
arguing with you, so have the last word if you feel to have won the
argument which you didn't BTW.

<SNIP>

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 07:54 GMT
> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> LOL

"Written laughter is silent despair."

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' infinitely
powerful and holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 25 Apr 2006 10:30 GMT
>> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
>> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair."

Care to provide the excact quote where you found this in the Bible.?

Or is this just you expressing your opinion?

<SNIP>

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

GaryG - 25 Apr 2006 14:24 GMT
> >> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
> >> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Or is this just you expressing your opinion?

It's Andy's opinion...apparently, he gets upset when anyone laughs (like
most fundies, he seems to have issues with other people having fun).

Why he always chooses to quote it is something of a mystery.

GG

> <SNIP>
>
> > Andrew
>
> Dragomir Kollaric
Michael Gray - 26 Apr 2006 04:19 GMT
 - Refer: <Dpp3g.62$OW.35@fe02.lga>

>> >> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
>> >> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>It's Andy's opinion...apparently, he gets upset when anyone laughs (like
>most fundies, he seems to have issues with other people having fun).

Which is hardly surprising, as more often than it is at the fundy's
expense! ;)

We put the "fun" in "Fundy"!

--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
EAC Trainee Inquisitor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Apr 2006 02:03 GMT
> >> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
> >> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Care to provide the excact quote where you found this in the Bible.?

The discerning know the truth when they see it.

It is written that those who belong to Christ recognize HIS voice.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most amazing
and holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 30 Apr 2006 19:57 GMT
>> >> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
>> >> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> The discerning know the truth when they see it.

Yep but there is not much of it in what you type Andrew.
And of course you gave an answer that was sidestepping the point made.

> It is written that those who belong to Christ recognize HIS voice.

Well, Andrew isn't this amazing, only a few people belonged to Christ
when he came 2000 years ago. Does this mean God had already determined
who will hear the voice of Christ? Are we some figures in a game God
and Satan can move about, and we have no say in it?

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Apr 2006 23:25 GMT
> >> >> >> >> Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods
> >> >> >> >> before him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Yep but there is not much of it in what you type Andrew.

You remind me of that blind man who would would feign vision among the
seeing.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' invincible,
infinitely powerful, and most holy name.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kurt Gavin - 19 Apr 2006 15:45 GMT
>> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> My prayers are to GOD the Father as Jesus teaches.

So you reject jesus then? That hasn't been clear from your posts. I thought
you attended a protestant church.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 16:57 GMT
> >> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> So you reject jesus then?

No.  Christ Jesus is my Teacher, my Messiah, my Savior, my LORD, and my
GOD.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the resurrected Jesus Christ, Who offered the holes in HIS hands
and in HIS side as proof.  Thankfully, Thomas declined the offer of
proof and was saved by faith.

Amen and amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Still praying for you, dear Kurt whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Kurt Gavin - 19 Apr 2006 17:46 GMT
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

<snip some chung dung>

>> > My prayers are to GOD the Father as Jesus teaches.
>>
>> So you reject jesus then?
>
> No.  Christ Jesus is my Teacher, my Messiah, my Savior, my LORD, and my
> GOD.

There it is. You are wicked and condemned.

You are worshipping an imposter satanic entity (jesus). That is why those
people in the praying study got sicker, that you got that nose bleed, and
that your mind is going.

You must worship Yahweh only, otherwise you are condemned to agony for all
time. Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods before
him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.

""   God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you
out
of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship.  """"

That couldn't be plainer.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 07:54 GMT
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>
> <snip some chung dung>

Namecalling remains a tell for those with satan's mark on their
foreheads.

Sorry what was written bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my
iniquities.

Still praying for you, dear Kurt whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
holy name.

Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew 3:3
and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and ASD that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or diabetes.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Kurt Gavin - 20 Apr 2006 15:20 GMT
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Sorry what was written bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my
> iniquities.

You are worshipping an imposter satanic entity (jesus). That is why those
people in the praying study got sicker, that you got that nose bleed, and
that your mind is going.

You must worship Yahweh only, otherwise you are condemned to agony for all
time. Remember Yahweh's commandment about not having any other gods before
him. If you kneel before the cross, you defy Yahweh.

""   God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought you
out
of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before Me.
Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship.  """"

That couldn't be plainer.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2006 08:44 GMT
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> You are worshipping an imposter satanic entity (jesus).

Would suggest you make up your mind.

Still praying for you, dear Kurt whom I love in Jesus' most
fantastically holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Hannele - 19 Apr 2006 21:11 GMT
Op Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:57:57 +0200 schreef Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD  
<andrew@heartmdphd.com>:

>>>>>> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>>>>>> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> No.  Christ Jesus is my Teacher, my Messiah, my Savior, my LORD, and my
> GOD.

So you worship two gods? The one you pray to and your teacher? How daring  
of you, since you know how jealous Yahweh is.

> "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
> seeing the resurrected Jesus Christ, Who offered the holes in HIS hands
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Still praying for you, dear Kurt whom I love in Jesus' most awesome and
> holy name.

Signature

Hannele
aa #2221

blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 19 Apr 2006 21:27 GMT
Oh no, Dr. Dung will be weaving religion around this story when he
reads it.  (You saw it here, folks).

The bubonic plague is visiting Los Angeles.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-04-19-bubonicplague_x.htm
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 09:20 GMT
> Op Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:57:57 +0200 schreef Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> <andrew@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> So you worship two gods?

No.  GOD the Father, GOD the Son, GOD the Holy Spirit, and GOD the Four
Living Creatures are One.

> The one you pray to and your teacher?

My prayer is the LORD's prayer.

> How daring of you, since you know how jealous Yahweh is.

"Because you know ME, now you know my Father, Who sent ME." -- LORD
Jesus Christ.

Amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Still praying for you, dear Hannele whom I love in Jesus' most fantastic
and holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 18 Apr 2006 16:47 GMT
>> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> The mark on your forehead was stealthly put there by satan's beast long
> before my informing you that it is there.

Revelation 13

 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from
 heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those
 miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying
 to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to
 the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

So if you say you are "only" informing us that some have this mark, then
when was the above passage fulfilled?

> Here is Jesus' message to you:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." --LORD Jesus
> Christ (John 8:44)

And I have shown you that in context starting at John 8:31 that Jesus
speaks about the desire to kill him, and that THIS VERY desire was the
one he was SPEAKING AGAINST. Nowhere does Jesus address these people
as liars.

John 8:31-44

 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue
 in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the
 truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be
 Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou,
 Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say
 unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the
 servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but *ye seek to kill* me, because
 *my word hath no place* in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with
 my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith
 unto them, *If ye were Abraham's children*, ye would *do* the *works of
 Abraham* . (Would mean NOT TRYING TO KILL JESUS)

 40 But now ye *seek to kill* me, a man that hath told you the truth,
 which I have heard of God: this did _not_ *Abraham*.

(AGAIN ANDY, Jesus is saying here "Abraham" would NOT WANT TO KILL JESUS!
But some of the people Jesus is addressing here had this desire! And of
course later we know that Jesus was KILLED!) Now if Jesus here says it is
wrong to kill him, did he later change his mind?

 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
 of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

 42 Jesus said unto them, *If God were your Father* , *ye would love*
 *me*: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself,
 but he sent me.

 (Once more Andy only a very sick person would LOVE some-one and plan to
 murder the person.)

 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear
  my word.

 44 Ye are of your *father the devil*, and the *lusts* of your *father*
 *ye* will do. *He was a murderer* from the beginning, and abode not in
 the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
 speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

<SNIP>

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 07:35 GMT
> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> So if you say you are "only" informing us that some have this mark, then
> when was the above passage fulfilled?

Possibly in the past century:

(1) Anti-christian scientists are having folks imagine the wonder of the
"big bang" which would have them see fire from heaven coming onto the
earth.  

(2) These same anti-christian scientists are promoting the theory of
evolution into "law."  Despite this theory being wounded by a sword
(truth), it still "lives" and is being printed in school textbooks
(image).

> > Here is Jesus' message to you:
> >
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> course later we know that Jesus was KILLED!) Now if Jesus here says it is
> wrong to kill him, did he later change his mind?

No.  Because Jesus is the truth, the desire to kill HIM is a desire to
kill the truth which is a desire to lie or deny the truth.

>   41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
>   of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>   (Once more Andy only a very sick person would LOVE some-one and plan to
>   murder the person.)

(This is the reason for the understanding that those marked as belonging
to satan do not love Jesus but hate HIM instead and so will deny HIS
existence).

>   43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear
>    my word.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>   the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
>   speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Amen and amen.

May GOD continue to bless the writing of HIS Word in these USENET
newsgroups in Jesus' most awesome and holy name.

Amen ! ! ! ! ! !

Will continue to pray for you, dear neighbor whom I love.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of continued prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how
to effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

http://tinyurl.com/ohyke

It is possible that Tehran is the physical representation on this globe
of the spirit of Babylon, which is "the great city that rules over the
kings of the earth." (Revelation 17:18)

http://tinyurl.com/lxd82

Indeed, using the letters from "Babylon the Great" (Revelation 17:5),
one can form the phrase "At Tehran by Globe."

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://tinyurl.com/kern8

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and SCJ that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or Israel.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 13:34 GMT
>> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Possibly in the past century:

"Possibly" is NOT good enough.

> (1) Anti-christian scientists are having folks imagine the wonder of the
> "big bang" which would have them see fire from heaven coming onto the
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> No.  Because Jesus is the truth, the desire to kill HIM is a desire to
> kill the truth which is a desire to lie or deny the truth.

But the point is, that is was wrong as Jesus said.

>>   41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
>>   of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> to satan do not love Jesus but hate HIM instead and so will deny HIS
> existence).

What has your reply to do with the point Jesus made to those who were
standing in front of him: "IF YOU WOULD REALLY LOVE ME" YOU WOULD NOT
ENTERTAIN ANY THOUGHTS OF KILLING ME". It's a simply message really
but I'm amazed that folks who claim to "belong" to Jesus don't get it.

>  
>>   43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Will continue to pray for you, dear neighbor whom I love.

I'd suggest you pray to your Lord that he will enlighten YOU, it seems
you are in desperate need of it, more then me if you don't get this
simple point.

<SNIP>

> Andrew

Dragomir Kollaric
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LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2006 15:30 GMT
> >> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> "Possibly" is NOT good enough.

"With GOD all things are possible." (Matthew 19:26)

> > (1) Anti-christian scientists are having folks imagine the wonder of the
> > "big bang" which would have them see fire from heaven coming onto the
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> But the point is, that is was wrong as Jesus said.

Asked and answered.

> >>   41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
> >>   of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ENTERTAIN ANY THOUGHTS OF KILLING ME". It's a simply message really
> but I'm amazed that folks who claim to "belong" to Jesus don't get it.

You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision among the seeing.

> >>   43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot
> >>   hear my word.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> you are in desperate need of it, more then me if you don't get this
> simple point.

You still remind me of that blind man who I have written about above.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor who I love in Jesus' most awesome
and holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 19 Apr 2006 17:07 GMT
>> >> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
>> >> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> "With GOD all things are possible." (Matthew 19:26)

Possibly! it could mean this or something else.
Nay Dude your vision is blurred.

So are you saying now it is God who inspires the Anti-Christan
scientists as you said:

>> > (1) Anti-christian scientists are having folks imagine the wonder of the
>> > "big bang" which would have them see fire from heaven coming onto the
>> > earth.
*****************

>> > (2) These same anti-christian scientists are promoting the theory of
>> > evolution into "law."  Despite this theory being wounded by a sword
>> > (truth), it still "lives" and is being printed in school textbooks
>> > (image).
*******************

>> >> > Here is Jesus' message to you:
>> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Asked and answered.

You don't get it do you? Jesus chastises the people who were LIVING AT
HIS TIME for trying to KILL HIM, something that he says was wrong.
He wasn't speaking to us in the "future" but to his contemporaries.

>> >>   41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
>> >>   of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision among the seeing.

LOL if you had understood the point, you wouldn't have answered the
way you did, now the "blind" man is you, when you don't see THAT Jesus
isn't talking "primarily" to us but to those who were standing right
in front of him. These people who hated Jesus were the one who wanted
to kill him:  

John 7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not
walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

See Jesus even "adjusted" his "behavior" so that he wouldn't get
killed!

Nay I don't think I'll waste much more of my time on you.
Have the last word if you feel you won the argument.

<SNIP>

Dragomir Kollaric
Signature

LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Apr 2006 07:54 GMT
> >> >> >> I realize the ubiquitous Chung has already been
> >> >> >> nominated/seconded/frequently endorsed for KotM, but is it unusual to
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Possibly! it could mean this or something else.
> Nay Dude your vision is blurred.

You remind me of the blind man who would evaluate the vision of the
seeing.

> So are you saying now it is God who inspires the Anti-Christan
> scientists as you said:

No.

> >> > (1) Anti-christian scientists are having folks imagine the wonder of the
> >> > "big bang" which would have them see fire from heaven coming onto the
> >> > earth.
> *****************

This may apply to Revelation 13:13

> >> > (2) These same anti-christian scientists are promoting the theory of
> >> > evolution into "law."  Despite this theory being wounded by a sword
> >> > (truth), it still "lives" and is being printed in school textbooks
> >> > (image).
> *******************

This may apply to Revelation 13:14

> >> >> > Here is Jesus' message to you:
> >> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> You don't get it do you?

Incorrect.

The LORD has blessed me with an understanding of HIS Word.

> Jesus chastises the people who were LIVING AT
> HIS TIME for trying to KILL HIM, something that he says was wrong.
> He wasn't speaking to us in the "future" but to his contemporaries.

Because LORD Jesus Christ is timeless, HIS Words are for all time.

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY Words will never pass away."
--LORD Jesus Christ.


> >> >>   41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born
> >> >>   of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> LOL

"Written laughter is silent despair."

" if you had understood the point, you wouldn't have answered the
> way you did, now the "blind" man is you, when you don't see THAT Jesus
> isn't talking "primarily" to us but to those who were standing right
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> See Jesus even "adjusted" his "behavior" so that he wouldn't get
> killed!

Actually, Jesus behaved in ways in keeping with prophecy.

> Nay I don't think I'll waste much more of my time on you.
> Have the last word if you feel you won the argument.

Again, the LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to
argue/convince as is the purpose of HIS four horsemen who are possibly
out and about preparing the way for the LORD.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most precious
and holy name.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(04/20/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 25 Apr 2006 10:55 GMT
<snip>

> "Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY Words will never pass away."
> --LORD Jesus Christ.

OK then why do so many Christians say it was God's will that Jesus
die, when Jesus in this passage clearly lays out, that it was not God
but Satan!

> "You are of your father the Devil and the lusts of your
> father you will do." - John 8:44a

OK let us see in which setting Jesus spoke those words:

It was when he confronted those who wanted to _KILL_ Jesus.
Jesus in this verse tells them that they are doing the will of the
devil. Later Saul/Paul turned this will of the Devil into the will
of God, contrary to what Jesus said here.

John 8:31-44

 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye
 continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in
 bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever
 committeth sin is the servant of sin.
 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son
 abideth ever.
 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free
indeed.

 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but *ye seek to kill* me,
 because *my word hath no place* in you.
 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that
 which ye have seen with your father.

 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus
 saith unto them, *If ye were Abraham's children*, ye would *do* the
 *works of Abraham* .

 40 But now ye *seek to kill* me, a man that hath told you the
 truth, which I have heard of God: this did _not_ *Abraham*.

 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be
 not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

 42 Jesus said unto them, *If God were your Father* , *ye would love*
 *me*: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of
 myself, but he sent me.

 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear
  my word.

 44 Ye are of your *father the devil*, and the *lusts* of your
 *father* *ye* will do. *He was a murderer* from the beginning, and
 abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he
 speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the
 father of it.

Andrew do you really think it is accessory for me to point out AGAIN
that Jesus said here to them: KILLING me is a desire of your Father
the Devil.  Do God and Satan have the same desire? That Jesus dies on
the Cross? No Jesus CLEARLY says it NOT.

>  
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair."

Is this in the OT, NT, or just your opinion?

> " if you had understood the point, you wouldn't have answered the
>> way you did, now the "blind" man is you, when you don't see THAT Jesus
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Actually, Jesus behaved in ways in keeping with prophecy.

There was no "prophecy" that stated that Jesus would die during a
certain week after a certain time or how long his ministry would last.
Show me the OT prophecy that tells us that the Messiah when he comes
after 3 years instead of building the kingdom, and establish Jerusalem
as the place where God "rules" would die.

There is NO OT Prophecy laying out a "time-line". Unless I missed it,
and if so I'm eager to see your proof, that Jesus was to teach for 3
years and then die

>  
>> Nay I don't think I'll waste much more of my time on you.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> argue/convince as is the purpose of HIS four horsemen who are possibly
> out and about preparing the way for the LORD.

"possibly" I need to go to the toilet in the next 2 hours......
It's about as accurate as what you say.

Hey Dude, if you are so desperately awaiting the return of Christ, why
don't you hook yourself up with the "moonies"! They say that Christ
had passed on his mission to Sun Myong Moon and he is doing the job
Jesus didn't do. So you don't have to wait anymore!

> Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most precious
> and holy name.

Lets try why don't you start praying that I get the use of my left eye
back. (Lost about 80 % of it) Now this would be a proof of
"prayer-power)

<SNIP>

Dragomir Kollaric
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LAWYER: Before you signed the death certificate, had you taken the pulse?
PATHOLOGIST: No.
LAWYER: Did you check for breathing?
PATHOLOGIST: No
LAWYER: So, when you signed the death certificate you weren't sure that he
       was dead, were you?
PATHOLOGIST: Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a
            jar on my desk. But I guess it is possible he could be out
            there practising law somewhere.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Apr 2006 02:03 GMT
> <snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> that Jesus said here to them: KILLING me is a desire of your Father
> the Devil.  Do God and Satan have the same desire?

No.

> That Jesus dies on
> the Cross?

Jesus dying on the cross was HIS choice in order to save us.

> No Jesus CLEARLY says it NOT.

It is as written in John 3:16-21

"For GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS one and only Son, that
whoever believe in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.  For GOD
did not send HIS Son into the world to condemn the would, but to save
the world through HIM.  Whoever believe in HIM is not condemned, but
whoever does not believe stand condemned alreadu because he does not
believe in the name of GOD's one and only Son."

Amen and amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

May GOD continue to bless the writing of HIS Word in these USENET
newsgroups in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy
name.

Amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in the name of GOD's
one and only Son, Jesus.

"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, Israel, the Lamb's opening of the 6th
seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm
EST, LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
dragomir kollaric - 30 Apr 2006 17:42 GMT
>> <snip>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
&g