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Steve - 29 Mar 2006 14:09 GMT
Why am I not surprised?

Steve
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Mar 2006 14:19 GMT
> Why am I not surprised?
>
> Steve

Retrospectively, the following may have been the earthquake seen by
John when the Lamb opened the 6th seal in the prophetic vision that the
LORD gave to him:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
(Isaiah 40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
this message.

At 10:33 PM (Toyko time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake
that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD,
which is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar
eclipse could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this
solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
6 that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse,
please visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
Steve - 29 Mar 2006 14:48 GMT
>> Why am I not surprised?
>>
>> Steve
>
> Retrospectively,

Heh, kind of sums up your prophetic abilities :-)

Steve
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Mar 2006 16:13 GMT
> >> Why am I not surprised?
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Heh, kind of sums up your prophetic abilities :-)

In truth, have never written that the LORD has given me the gift of
prophesy.

The LORD's gift of a discerning heart is **not** the same as HIS gift
of prophesy.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal
(Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST
if the LORD is willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
Uncle Vic - 29 Mar 2006 18:26 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>> >> Why am I not surprised?
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> In truth, have never written that the LORD has given me the gift of
> prophesy.

Yet you INSISTED you were right in making this prediction.  You're a
worse prophet than Jeebus was.

> The LORD's gift of a discerning heart is **not** the same as HIS gift
> of prophesy.

<Chunks runs away, tail firmly planted between legs>

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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and
pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Yet you INSISTED you were right in making this prediction.

No.

> You're a  worse prophet than Jesus is.

Correct. Not even.

> > The LORD's gift of a discerning heart is **not** the same as HIS gift
> > of prophesy.
>
> <Chung runs away, tail firmly planted between legs>

<Still here. Sorry my presence bothers you so terribly. Please forgive
all my iniquities.>

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal,
cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here
during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, if the LORD
is willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/o63zh
Uncle Vic - 30 Mar 2006 00:11 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>> You're a  worse prophet than Jesus is.
>
> Correct. Not even.

Damn, I can't even come up with a zinger that tops that.

Signature

Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Mark K. Bilbo - 29 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
<1143645180.553893.290980@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...

>> >> Why am I not surprised?
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> In truth,

Nothing's happening...

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--------------------------------------------------

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for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

GaryG - 29 Mar 2006 15:51 GMT
> > Why am I not surprised?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

That 6.0 earthquake in Tokyo hardly qualifies as the "global earthquake"
that you've been warning us about for over a month.  It did very little
damage locally, and occurred 24 hours before the solar eclipse that you
claimed was associated with the End Times and the second coming of your
"lord".

Once again, your "gift of discernment" has been proven to be nothing more
than the ramblings of an obviously disturbed mind.

GG

> "Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
> 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
> both the OT and the NT came to mind.

Hee-hee!!!  Like most whackos predicting the end of the world, you're now
shifting your prediction to "sometime between now and the end of the
year"...how typical, (and how obviously the product of mental disturbance).

GG

> This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
> into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
> http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
David H. - 29 Mar 2006 16:14 GMT
<snip>

> Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
> 2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
> Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in

<snip>

I wouldn't call this an unusual eclipse, Andy.
An unusual eclipse would be something like, let's say, the shadow on
the ground turns out to be an exact replica of the Batman Beacon, and
afterwards, all the girls have an uncontrollable need to get naked and
dance in the streets.
Now, *that* would be one unusual eclipse, no?

David H.
#2217
Cary Kittrell - 29 Mar 2006 19:08 GMT
> > Why am I not surprised?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Well then, let's compare then, shall we?

   John:       great earthquake
   Tokyo:      no deaths, no injuries, no damages
   

   John:       moon becomes as blood
   Tokyo,      new moon, not visible
   
   
   John:       stars of heaven fell unto the earth
   Tokyo:      stars still there (although even one would have sufficed)
   
   
   John:       sky rolled up like a scroll
   Tokyo:      sky still acts like volume of gas doing Rayleigh scattering
   
   
   John:       every mountain, every island removed.
   Tokyo:      Mt. Mitake still in place.  TOKYO still in place.
   
   John:       everyone rushes to mountains to hide.
   Tokyo:      still around 12 million people.
   
   
As apocalyptic events go, this one appears to have been a science-fair
dry-ice volcano.

-- cary
Ace Berserker - 29 Mar 2006 19:26 GMT
Andy's probably feverishly monitoring the USGS website, with his little
thingy in one hand and a holy water shooter in the other.

"Please....PLEASE...Quake! QUAKE!!"
The Chief Instigator - 29 Mar 2006 23:05 GMT
>Andy's probably feverishly monitoring the USGS website, with his little
>thingy in one hand and a holy water shooter in the other.

>"Please....PLEASE...Quake! QUAKE!!"

Maybe he's been downtown to the Varsity, and ordered three heavies walking.
(For those who aren't familiar with that feature of Atlanta life, it's a
branch of the U of Ga concession in Athens - specializing in some good hot
dogs.  "Three heavies walking" is Varsity for "three hot dogs, with
chili...and everything else, to go".)

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Mark K. Bilbo - 30 Mar 2006 00:11 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Cary Kittrell in episode
<e0eiea$o45$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>...

>> > Why am I not surprised?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Well then, let's compare then, shall we?

Mind you, if you check the date, the Tokyo quake was *yesterday. The
eclipse Chunk was all hyped up about was *today.

I guess god's having trouble reading his calendar...

Signature

Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------

"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 02:15 GMT
> > > Why am I not surprised?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>     John:       great earthquake
>     Tokyo:      no deaths, no injuries, no damages

The epicenter of the earthquake was 255 miles below the surface and
still felt in Tokyo.  John's characterization of the earthquake as
"great" might have been how it felt to him in the prophetic vision that
was given to him rather than by how much destruction because he did not
describe any death/destruction directly associated with the "great"
earthquake as written in Revelation 6:12.

>     John:       moon becomes as blood
>     Tokyo,      new moon, not visible

This might be still pending and be associated with nuclear fires here
on earth in the future.

>     John:       stars of heaven fell unto the earth
>     Tokyo:      stars still there (although even one would have sufficed)

This might be still pending as free-falling nuclear warheads with
forward velocities appearing as stars falling in the manner described
by John.

>     John:       sky rolled up like a scroll
>     Tokyo:      sky still acts like volume of gas doing Rayleigh scattering

This might be pending as a close-up view of a nuclear mushroom cloud in
the future.

>     John:       every mountain, every island removed.
>     Tokyo:      Mt. Mitake still in place.  TOKYO still in place.

This might be pending as a future global catastrophic event separate
from the "great" earthquake in 6:12.

>     John:       everyone rushes to mountains to hide.
>     Tokyo:      still around 12 million people.

This might still be in the world's near future.

> As apocalyptic events go, this one appears to have been a science-fair
> dry-ice volcano.

It may yet be fulfilled in the near future.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal
(Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST
if the LORD is willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/o63zh
GaryG - 30 Mar 2006 02:33 GMT
> > > > Why am I not surprised?
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> describe any death/destruction directly associated with the "great"
> earthquake as written in Revelation 6:12.

So, by that reason, any earthquake could be described as "great".

> >     John:       moon becomes as blood
> >     Tokyo,      new moon, not visible
>
> This might be still pending and be associated with nuclear fires here
> on earth in the future.

Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
with death and destruction.

> >     John:       stars of heaven fell unto the earth
> >     Tokyo:      stars still there (although even one would have sufficed)
>
> This might be still pending as free-falling nuclear warheads with
> forward velocities appearing as stars falling in the manner described
> by John.

Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
with death and destruction.

> >     John:       sky rolled up like a scroll
> >     Tokyo:      sky still acts like volume of gas doing Rayleigh scattering
>
> This might be pending as a close-up view of a nuclear mushroom cloud in
> the future.

Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
with death and destruction.

> >     John:       every mountain, every island removed.
> >     Tokyo:      Mt. Mitake still in place.  TOKYO still in place.
>
> This might be pending as a future global catastrophic event separate
> from the "great" earthquake in 6:12.

Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
with death and destruction.

> >     John:       everyone rushes to mountains to hide.
> >     Tokyo:      still around 12 million people.
>
> This might still be in the world's near future.

Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
with death and destruction
.

> > As apocalyptic events go, this one appears to have been a science-fair
> > dry-ice volcano.
>
> It may yet be fulfilled in the near future.

And perhaps someday purple flying vampire monkeys will fly out of my a.s...

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 07:00 GMT
> > > In article <1143638389.699525.7030@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Andrew
> B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> writes:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> So, by that reason, any earthquake could be described as "great".

No.

> > >     John:       moon becomes as blood
> > >     Tokyo,      new moon, not visible
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
> with death and destruction.

Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

> > >     John:       stars of heaven fell unto the earth
> > >     Tokyo:      stars still there (although even one would have
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
> with death and destruction.

Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

> > >     John:       sky rolled up like a scroll
> > >     Tokyo:      sky still acts like volume of gas doing Rayleigh
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
> with death and destruction.

Again, recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

> > >     John:       every mountain, every island removed.
> > >     Tokyo:      Mt. Mitake still in place.  TOKYO still in place.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
> with death and destruction.

Again, recognizing a possibility is not delusion.  

> > >     John:       everyone rushes to mountains to hide.
> > >     Tokyo:      still around 12 million people.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Or, it could be associated with your delusional thinking, and fascination
> with death and destruction

Again, recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

> > > As apocalyptic events go, this one appears to have been a science-fair
> > > dry-ice volcano.
> >
> > It may yet be fulfilled in the near future.
>
> And perhaps someday purple flying vampire monkeys will fly out of my a.s...

Such an event would be meaningless because your life without the LORD is
meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Toyko time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

655321 - 31 Mar 2006 00:50 GMT
> Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

Nor does it have anything to do with alleged prophesy.

655321
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
> > Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.
>
> Nor does it have anything to do with alleged prophesy.

That is why there has been no prophesy.

Recognizing the possibility that a prophesy may be realized through the
infinite will of GOD is not in itself prophesy.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 31 Mar 2006 23:12 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442C81ED.C2EB0286@heartmdphd.com>:

>> > Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

>> Nor does it have anything to do with alleged prophesy.

>That is why there has been no prophesy.

No, the reason there has been no prophecy is that prophecy is not about
foretelling the future but about calling God's people back to his
principles and truth and righteousness.  Micah is an ideal example of
how and what a prophet speaks to the people; he summed it up "And what
does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love mercy, and
to walk humbly with your God?"

FWIW, the noun is usually "prophecy" and the verb is always "prophesy."

>Recognizing the possibility that a prophesy may be realized through the
>infinite will of GOD is not in itself prophesy.

You continually confuse prophecy with some magical sort of fortune
telling.
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Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 05:58 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442C81ED.C2EB0286@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> foretelling the future but about calling God's people back to his
> principles and truth and righteousness.

The latter can and has been done by folks who are not prophets.  For
this reason, the latter is not prophecy.

Truth is simple.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 01 Apr 2006 09:16 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442E087E.514A0B3C@heartmdphd.com>:

>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article <442C81ED.C2EB0286@heartmdphd.com>:

>> >> > Recognizing a possibility is not delusion.

>> >> Nor does it have anything to do with alleged prophesy.

>> >That is why there has been no prophesy.

>> No, the reason there has been no prophecy is that prophecy is not about
>> foretelling the future but about calling God's people back to his
>> principles and truth and righteousness.

>The latter can and has been done by folks who are not prophets.  For
>this reason, the latter is not prophecy.

>Truth is simple.

The simple truth is that you ignore the content of the messages of the
Biblical prophets and the conclusions of centuries of Biblical scholars
who say otherwise.  Prophets are, by definition, people who "speak for"
God; that is what the Greek word means.  It is a perversion of Scripture
to turn it into a fortune telling device.
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Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442E087E.514A0B3C@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Biblical prophets and the conclusions of centuries of Biblical scholars
> who say otherwise.

No. Just as a doctor's running on the Silver Comet Trail does not mean
running is doctoring, a prophet's preaching of the Word of God does not
mean that preaching is prophesying.

Truth remains simple and invincible.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love, in Jesus' most
precious and holy name.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Ace Berserker - 30 Mar 2006 07:09 GMT
The right Rev. Spammy Chung sayeth:

>The epicenter of the earthquake was 255 miles below the surface and still felt in Tokyo.  John's characterization of the earthquake as "great" might have been how it felt to him in the prophetic vision that
was given to him rather than by how much destruction because he did not
describe any death/destruction directly associated with the "great"
earthquake as written in Revelation 6:12.

Uh huh.

'jesus' might have walked on water, but you're not so good at it. You
might want to brush up on what your book says about false prophets.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 07:20 GMT
> Andrew Chung wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> 'jesus' might have walked on water, but you're not so good at it. You
> might want to brush up on what your book says about false prophets.

The LORD has not given me HIS gift of prophesy so I remain one of HIS
lowly watchmen.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
(Isaiah 40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
this message.

At 10:33 PM (Toyko time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake
that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD,
which is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar
eclipse could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this
solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
6 that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse,
please visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
Ace Berserker - 30 Mar 2006 07:24 GMT
Go to bed, 'doctor'. Don't you have patients?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 07:39 GMT
> Go to bed, 'doctor'.

The LORD has given me rest already so I do not feel weary.

> Don't you have patients?

Yes.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Toyko time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

GaryG - 30 Mar 2006 08:43 GMT
> > Andrew Chung wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> The LORD has not given me HIS gift of prophesy so I remain one of HIS
> loony watchmen.

Amen and amen!

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 11:43 GMT
...make straight paths for HIM.(Matthew 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Martin - 30 Mar 2006 12:34 GMT
> At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
> impacted Tokyo:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

You crazy frigging kook!

One small earthquake in an earthquake zone DOES NOT mean "global
earthquake" that you were predicting.

Major earthquake? don't make me laugh, no deaths and no damage. I'd have
been a lot more impressed if it had been "The Big One" La Palma that is
going to take out the whole eastern seaboard.

I really hope you are not a praticing doctor, you're starting to sound
more psychotic by the day. Get help please.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 12:53 GMT
> > At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
> > impacted Tokyo:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz
>
> You crazy frigging kook!

If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
resist the temptation of descending into namecalling.

> One small earthquake in an earthquake zone DOES NOT mean "global
> earthquake" that you were predicting.

The possibility of a devastating global earthquake remains in the
world's future:

"...and every mountain and island was removed from its place."
(Revelation 6:14)

> Major earthquake?

It was a 6 on the Richter scale.  It remains possible that this was the
"great earthquake" that John felt in his prophetic vision where he
watched the Lamb opened the 6th seal (Revelation 6:12).

> don't make me laugh, no deaths and no damage.

It's epicenter was reportedly 255 miles below the surface.

> I'd have
> been a lot more impressed if it had been "The Big One" La Palma that is
> going to take out the whole eastern seaboard.

The purpose of the "great earthquake" may have been to only serve as an
indication that the 6th seal has been opened rather than to impress
you.

> I really hope you are not a praticing doctor, you're starting to sound
> more psychotic by the day.

Without the LORD, there is no hope...  only fear.

> Get help please.

Thankfully, the LORD helps me everyday.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
(Isaiah 40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
this message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake
that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD,
which is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar
eclipse could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the
solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And
now we face a possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in
the fulfillment of the rest of the elements seen by John for the
opening of the 6th seal (Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
6 that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse,
please visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
Les Hellawell - 30 Mar 2006 12:55 GMT
>> > Andrew Chung wrote:
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> >
>> > Uh huh.

OK so the Seventh Seal has been broken, the earthquake happened
as predicted, and nobody noticed, only a man made detector in a
laboratory somewhere. We have had the eclipse as predicted accurately
by science, the earth continues to rotate as before and life goes on
unaffected which is what really matters. Maybe a few more will turn
their backs on Christinsanity after seeing another failed prediction
from another false god perceiving kook three cherries short of a Genoa
cake, and a few atheists will be even more convinced the Bible is
worthless and that they are on the right track but that's all.

Thank you Chung you have helped, albeit in a small way to convince
the world that religion is nonesense, but these little drips add
to the flood that is washing Christinsanity into the sea of oblivion.
And all we had to do was stand on the bank and point you out as
you  floated  by.

Laurence Binyon perceived:  "Nothing is certain, only the certain
spring"  I think I will continue to give him more credence as a
reliable guide than our poor deluded Chung.

>> > 'jesus' might have walked on water, but you're not so good at it. You
>> > might want to brush up on what your book says about false prophets.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Amen and amen!

His LORD Satan's only 'gift' was deception. We told him of his
wickedness but he would not listen. Once again the wolf has bayed
false prophecies but we were not afraid as we did perceive the truth
correctly and laughed at the fool.

And yet he still clings to his LORD Satan and keeps watch for
him glowing in the dark that surrounds him. Oh well that's his own
choice.

--
Les Hellawell

Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 13:07 GMT
> >> > Andrew Chung wrote:
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> OK so the Seventh Seal has been broken

It would be the 6th seal (Revelation 6:12).

> , the earthquake happened
> as predicted, and nobody noticed

The folks in Tokyo noticed it.

> , only a man made detector in a
> laboratory somewhere.

No, buildings reportedly swayed in Tokyo.

> We have had the eclipse as predicted accurately
> by science, the earth continues to rotate as before and life goes on
> unaffected which is what really matters.

For now...

...until possibly...

"...every mountain and island was removed from its place." (Revelation
6:14)

> Maybe a few more will turn
> their backs on Christinsanity after seeing another failed prediction
> from another false god perceiving kook three cherries short of a Genoa
> cake, and a few atheists will be even more convinced the Bible is
> worthless and that they are on the right track but that's all.

The LORD's purpose for me here is to inform and not convert anyone.

> Thank you Chung you have helped, albeit in a small way to convince
> the world that religion is nonesense, but these little drips add
> to the flood that is washing Christinsanity into the sea of oblivion.

Without the LORD, your fanciful thoughts are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

> And all we had to do was stand on the bank and point you out as
> you  floated  by.
>
> Laurence Binyon perceived:  "Nothing is certain, only the certain
> spring"  I think I will continue to give him more credence as a
> reliable guide than our poor deluded Chung.

Recognizing possibilities is not delusion.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
(Isaiah 40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
this message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake
that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD,
which is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar
eclipse could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the
solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And
now we face a possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in
the fulfillment of the rest of the elements seen by John for the
opening of the 6th seal (Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
6 that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse,
please visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
Uncle Vic - 31 Mar 2006 00:01 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>> , the earthquake happened
>> as predicted, and nobody noticed
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> No, buildings reportedly swayed in Tokyo.

Chunks, that was a day early, and it wasn't worldwide, and it didn't
destroy *anything*.  You were predicting Armageddon.  Did your god tell you
to tell us this?  Looks like he lied to you, Chunks.  Or at least the
voices in your head did.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Chunks, that was a day early

For it to fulfill John's prophetic vision, the "great" earthquake would
have to occur after the opening of the 6th seal and **before** the solar
eclipse. A day early is nonetheless **before** the 03/29/2006 total
solar eclipse.

>, and it wasn't worldwide,

There is no specific description of the earthquake from John that
suggests it would be worldwide.  The 14th verse of Revelation 6 does
suggest a worldwide event but retrospectively now does not seem to be
the same event as the "great earthquake" that signaled the opening of
the 6th seal.  

> and it didn't destroy *anything*.

Revelation 6:12 indicates that the purpose of the earthquake was to
signal the opening of the 6th seal.  It is interesting that the
magnitude of the Tokyo earthquake was 6.

> You were predicting Armageddon.

It remains my choice to refrain from predicting anything.  Being
vigilant does not require prophesy.  

> Did your god tell you to tell us this?

No.

> Looks like he lied to you, Chunks.

LORD GOD Almighty remains kind, just, and right.

> Or at least the voices in your head did.

The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.  Sorry
this bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my iniquities.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Les Hellawell - 31 Mar 2006 09:55 GMT
>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>It remains my choice to refrain from predicting anything.  Being
>vigilant does not require prophesy.  

You are the wolf that cries too often. We heard your howls and
thought, "Yawn, there goes that stupid wolf again"

Your kind have been predicting disasters since Jesus died
c2000 years ago and nothing of significance ever happens
or will happen.

>> Did your god tell you to tell us this?
>
>No.

And yet week after week, month after month you post
regularly telling us that you are just the humble messenger
of the LORD telling us you perceive only the truth. You
even repeat it below:

>The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.  Sorry
>this bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my iniquities.

For weeks you have been posting messages under the
subject "Global earthquake Advisory for 03/29/06" stating
the above. Now you admit that your LORD did not tell
you to do this. So who did tell you and were you perceiving
the truth as you claim?  I warned you that you were a
messenger of Satan but in your vanity and puffed up
self-importance and righteousness you would not listen.
You must now suffer the consequences.

--
Les Hellawell

Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2006 10:22 GMT
> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> You are the wolf that cries too often.

The LORD's purpose for me here is to watch and not to hunt.

> We heard your howls and
> thought, "Yawn, there goes that stupid wolf again"

Sorry, this extended advisory bothers you so much. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

> Your kind have been predicting disasters since Jesus died
> c2000 years ago and nothing of significance ever happens
> or will happen.

It seems you have difficulty understanding the difference between an
advisory and prophecy.

> >> Did your god tell you to tell us this?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> regularly telling us that you are just the humble messenger
> of the LORD telling us you perceive only the truth.

The LORD's prophets are HIS humble messengers who have been persecuted
and slain in the past.  HE has since stopped sending prophets.

> You
> even repeat it below:

No.  This advisory is not prophecy from a prophet but a message from a
watchman who is guided by the LORD.

> >The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.  Sorry
> >this bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my iniquities.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the above. Now you admit that your LORD did not tell
> you to do this.

Receiving guidance from the LORD is not the same as being told/commanded
by the LORD to do something.

> So who did tell you and were you perceiving
> the truth as you claim?

The LORD continues to guide everything I say, do, and write.

> I warned you that you were a
> messenger of Satan but in your vanity and puffed up
> self-importance and righteousness you would not listen.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

> You must now suffer the consequences.

The LORD continues to bless.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

GaryG - 31 Mar 2006 16:23 GMT
> > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > >> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
> No.  This advisory is not prophecy from a prophet but a message from a
> watchman who is guided by the LORD.

Well, your "LORD" sure made you look like an idiot, didn't he?  You posted
hundreds of scary warnings about the nuclear war and global earthquake that
your LORD guided you to write about...and, yet, 3/29/06 came and went with
none of your predictions coming to pass.

Now that none of what you "advised" has come to pass, it appears that you're
just another mentally disturbed Christian who is obsessively fascinated with
global death and destruction...in your case, that "possibility" may sound
preferable to your current situation (especially if your "watchman" status
grants you some sort of special position in heaven).  But, it's all just
delusions and dreams, Andy...nothing more.

> > >The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.  Sorry
> > >this bothers you so terribly.  Please forgive all my iniquities.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Receiving guidance from the LORD is not the same as being told/commanded
> by the LORD to do something.

Your guidance detection device appears to be malfunctioning.

> > So who did tell you and were you perceiving
> > the truth as you claim?
>
> The LORD continues to guide everything I say, do, and write.

He's guided you to look like a lunatic...even the Christian in acc have not
come to your defense because you are so obviously mental.  You need help,
Andy.

> > I warned you that you were a
> > messenger of Satan but in your vanity and puffed up
> > self-importance and righteousness you would not listen.
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

You'd have to start for that to be true.

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 04:43 GMT
> > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > >> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
>
> Well, your "LORD" sure made you look like an idiot, didn't he?

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> You posted
> hundreds of scary warnings about the nuclear war and global earthquake that
> your LORD guided you to write about...

Sorry these advisories scared you.  Please forgive all my iniquities.

> and, yet, 3/29/06 came and went with
> none of your predictions coming to pass.

There were no predictions from me to come to pass.

The 3/29/2006 total solar eclipse did happen possibly as seen by John
more than 1900 years ago through the prophetic vision given to him by
LORD Jesus Christ.  

Moreover, a "great earthquake" did happen shortly **before** the total
solar eclipse possibly marking the opening of the 6th seal as described
in the 12th verse of Revelation 6.

This 3/28/06 magnitude 6 Tokyo earthquake was "great" not in the
conventional sense of large magnitude **and** loss of property/life but
in the sense of surprisingly little loss of property/life for such a
large earthquake (this is actually amazing). An earthquake of comparable
magnitude in Iran yesterday has resulted in considerable loss of
property/life in comparison.

> Now that none of what you "advised" has come to pass

Actually, the "great earthquake" described by John as happening before
the total solar eclipse and after the Lamb opening the 6th seal possibly
has happened as the very deep magnitude 6 Tokyo earthquake that occurred
in the evening of 03/28/06.

>, it appears that you're
> just another mentally disturbed Christian who is obsessively fascinated with
> global death and destruction...

Without the LORD, your opinion will remain meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> in your case, that "possibility" may sound
> preferable to your current situation (especially if your "watchman" status
> grants you some sort of special position in heaven).  But, it's all just
> delusions and dreams, Andy...nothing more.

Walking with LORD Jesus Christ is infinitely more than either delusions
or dreams.

> > > >The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.
> Sorry
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Your guidance detection device appears to be malfunctioning.

And yet you are drawn to respond to these posts.

> > > So who did tell you and were you perceiving
> > > the truth as you claim?
> >
> > The LORD continues to guide everything I say, do, and write.
>
> He's guided you to look like a lunatic...

Without the LORD, your opinion will remain forever meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

> even the Christian in acc have not
> come to your defense because you are so obviously mental.

With the LORD's help, even the meekest Christian is more than a match
for all the legions that satan can possibly muster.

> You need help, Andy.

Yes, HIS help.

> > > I warned you that you were a
> > > messenger of Satan but in your vanity and puffed up
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You'd have to start for that to be true.

Would not still be here if it were not true.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Uncle Vic - 31 Mar 2006 20:34 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>> You
>> even repeat it below:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>  
>> >The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.

"The LORD continue to guide me in everything I say, do, and write."

Does this not mean what it says?  Did the LORD not guide you to predict a
global earthquake for 3/29/06?  Your statement above indicates he did.

The more you continue to post your inane religious nonsense, the more you
flush your credibility down the toilet, and the more you illustrate your
inability to function in human society.

Signature

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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 05:58 GMT
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Does this not mean what it says?

Yes, it is written plainly.

> Did the LORD not guide you to predict a
> global earthquake for 3/29/06?

No.  The LORD did guide me to inform others about the possibility.

> Your statement above indicates he did.

The LORD did not guide me to make any predictions.

> The more you continue to post your inane religious nonsense, the more you
> flush your credibility down the toilet, and the more you illustrate your
> inability to function in human society.

And yet, here I stand clothed with HIS power from on high.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Uncle Vic - 01 Apr 2006 06:04 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Yes, it is written plainly.

Is a prophet guided by God?

Signature

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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Is a prophet guided by God?

Depends on the prophet and whether the prophet is accepting the LORD's
guidance.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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GaryG - 01 Apr 2006 20:22 GMT
> > Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> No.  The LORD did guide me to inform others about the possibility.

And if your "LORD" had advised you to inform others of the "possibility" of
a plague of flying purple monkeys, you would look no less ridiculous.

Posting hundreds of "advisories" of global death and destruction to occur on
a specific date and time, that does not come to pass, is highly indicative
of a person with mental illness...as is the subsequent re-positioning and
backpedaling when the event fails to occur.

GG

> > Your statement above indicates he did.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> And yet, here I stand clothed with HIS power from on high.

To everyone else, even the Christians in acc, you look like a pitiful fool.

> "Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
> 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Apr 2006 07:37 GMT
> > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> And if your "LORD" had advised you to inform others of the "possibility" of
> a plague of flying purple monkeys, you would look no less ridiculous.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Posting hundreds of "advisories" of global death and destruction to occur on
> a specific date and time, that does not come to pass, is highly indicative
> of a person with mental illness...

The specific date and time was for a total solar eclipse in Turkey.
This did come to pass.  As for the possibility of a "great earthquake"
happening shortly before this total solar eclipse based on the
understanding that this eclipse might be the same as the one described
in Revelation 6:12, this too was realized even though the size of the
earthquake disappoints you.

> as is the subsequent re-positioning and
> backpedaling when the event fails to occur.

Actually, both events did occur even though the GOD mercifully kept the
magnitude 6 earthquake from injuring anyone in Tokyo, which was an
amazing feat.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 31 Mar 2006 23:12 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442C81F7.3FDAB202@heartmdphd.com>:

>There is no specific description of the earthquake from John that
>suggests it would be worldwide.  The 14th verse of Revelation 6 does
>suggest a worldwide event but retrospectively now does not seem to be
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the same event as the "great earthquake" that signaled the opening of
>the 6th seal.  

IOW, "I got it wrong but maybe nobody will notice if I go back and
change what I thought that Bible verse means."
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 05:58 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442C81F7.3FDAB202@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> IOW, "I got it wrong but maybe nobody will notice if I go back and
> change what I thought that Bible verse means."

There is nothing wrong in identifying possibilities that later are not
realized.  Indeed, the mandate for a watchman being vigilant
necessitates the identification of such possibilities as they are
noticed.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 01 Apr 2006 09:16 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442E0880.FED9179@heartmdphd.com>:

>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article <442C81F7.3FDAB202@heartmdphd.com>:

>> >There is no specific description of the earthquake from John that
>> >suggests it would be worldwide.  The 14th verse of Revelation 6 does
>> >suggest a worldwide event but retrospectively now does not seem to be
>>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >the same event as the "great earthquake" that signaled the opening of
>> >the 6th seal.

>> IOW, "I got it wrong but maybe nobody will notice if I go back and
>> change what I thought that Bible verse means."

>There is nothing wrong in identifying possibilities that later are not
>realized.  Indeed, the mandate for a watchman being vigilant
>necessitates the identification of such possibilities as they are
>noticed.

But there is much wrong with proclaiming one vision of the future and
then backtracking when that vision proves fallible, all the while
claiming to be guided by God and writing only the truth.
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442E0880.FED9179@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> then backtracking when that vision proves fallible, all the while
> claiming to be guided by God and writing only the truth.

The LORD has not given me a vision to proclaim and so I have not.

Truth remains simple.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Phÿltrêss - 01 Apr 2006 15:22 GMT
>> >> > Andrew Chung wrote:
>> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> The folks in Tokyo noticed it.

Well f.ck! Imagine that, people feeling an earthquake nearby, who woulda
thunk it!

>> , only a man made detector in a
>> laboratory somewhere.
>
> No, buildings reportedly swayed in Tokyo.

Get outta town!!!! Imagine that, an earthquake shakes buildings!!!

You're a veritable goldmine of the "f.cking obvious" aren't you numbnuts


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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Apr 2006 06:49 GMT
> >> >> > Andrew Chung wrote:
> >> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Well f.ck! Imagine that, people feeling an earthquake nearby, who woulda
> thunk it!

Apparently not Les.

> >> , only a man made detector in a
> >> laboratory somewhere.
> >
> > No, buildings reportedly swayed in Tokyo.
>
> Get outta town!!!! Imagine that, an earthquake shakes buildings!!!

It seems Les is having difficulty imagining it.

> You're a veritable goldmine of the "f.cking obvious" aren't you numbnuts

These things don't appear to be obvious to Les.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Mark K. Bilbo - 30 Mar 2006 14:20 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
<1143681348.654324.222060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...

>> > > Why am I not surprised?
>> > >
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> death/destruction directly associated with the "great" earthquake as
> written in Revelation 6:12.

It was not a "great" earthquake, it was a 5.9 for crying out loud. In an
area that's used to and prepared for quakes, that's barely worth getting
out of bed!

Wake me where there's a 7+...

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--------------------------------------------------

"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 22:43 GMT
> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> <1143681348.654324.222060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> It was not a "great" earthquake, it was a 5.9 for crying out loud.

According to the Reuter's citation, it was a 6.

> In an
> area that's used to and prepared for quakes, that's barely worth getting
> out of bed!

For John who may not have been prepared for quakes, it may have seemed
like a "great earthquake" especially if his attention was focused
intently on the Lamb opening the 6th seal.

> Wake me where there's a 7+...

What John describes in the 14th verse of Revelation 6 may very well be a
devastating earthquake 1000 times more powerful than that which occurred
for the Indian Tsunami 1-2 years ago or the one that happened in Chile
in order to remove "**every** island and **every** mountain from its
place."  That would be a 12+

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat **today**(03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm
EST, if the LORD is willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/o63zh
Mark K. Bilbo - 30 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
<442C510F.F1F7C320@heartmdphd.com>...

>> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>> <1143681348.654324.222060@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> According to the Reuter's citation, it was a 6.

Well that's nice but they're a *news organization. I was using the number
from the USGS which actually measures quakes.

>> In an
>> area that's used to and prepared for quakes, that's barely worth getting
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> like a "great earthquake" especially if his attention was focused intently
> on the Lamb opening the 6th seal.

Well then he wasn't a very good reporter was he? God shoulda found
somebody else.

By the way, Skippy, the Middle East does have earthquakes.

>> Wake me where there's a 7+...
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> order to remove "**every** island and **every** mountain from its place."
> That would be a 12+

There is no such number on that scale. The amount of power you're talking
about wouldn't be an "earthquake." It would be the utter destruction of
the crust of the planet. It wouldn't be "making way" for anybody. There
wouldn't be any surface left nor anybody to see for whom this "way" was
"made."

Signature

Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------

"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Uncle Vic - 31 Mar 2006 00:38 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Mark K. Bilbo (alt-
atheism@org.webmaster) made the light shine upon us with this:

> There is no such number on that scale. The amount of power you're talking
> about wouldn't be an "earthquake." It would be the utter destruction of
> the crust of the planet. It wouldn't be "making way" for anybody. There
> wouldn't be any surface left nor anybody to see for whom this "way" was
> "made."

And noplace for Jebus to land.

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chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> <442C510F.F1F7C320@heartmdphd.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Well that's nice but they're a *news organization. I was using the number
> from the USGS which actually measures quakes.

The difference is meaningless especially when much of the force of the
event possibly originated from the spiritual realm.  This was an
unusually **deep** magnitude 6 earthquake.

> >> In an
> >> area that's used to and prepared for quakes, that's barely worth getting
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> By the way, Skippy, the Middle East does have earthquakes.

Did not write that it did not.  Was anticipating the possibility of an
unusual earthquake **before** the 03/29/2006 Total Solar eclipse
somewhere in the world that would fit the description of "great" by John
and this magnitude 6 quake 255 miles deep beneath the earth's surface
caught my eye.  

> >> Wake me where there's a 7+...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> wouldn't be any surface left nor anybody to see for whom this "way" was
> "made."

In three words:  "Shock and awe."  If the LORD realizes this possibility
through HIS infinite will, all will recognize a need for salvation by
HIM.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 31 Mar 2006 23:12 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442C81FB.79CE0CE8@heartmdphd.com>:

>> >> > The epicenter of the earthquake was 255 miles below the surface and
>> >> > still felt in Tokyo.  John's characterization of the earthquake as
>> >> > "great" might have been how it felt to him in the prophetic vision
>> >> > that was given to him rather than by how much destruction because he
>> >> > did not describe any death/destruction directly associated with the
>> >> > "great" earthquake as written in Revelation 6:12.

>> > For John who may not have been prepared for quakes, it may have seemed
>> > like a "great earthquake" especially if his attention was focused intently
>> > on the Lamb opening the 6th seal.

>Did not write that it did not [have earthquakes]  Was anticipating the possibility of an
>unusual earthquake **before** the 03/29/2006 Total Solar eclipse
>somewhere in the world that would fit the description of "great" by John
>and this magnitude 6 quake 255 miles deep beneath the earth's surface
>caught my eye.  

Ah, the truth at last:  "I found something I wanted to believe would
happen so I looked for an earthquake that I could use as proof."  Real
good science there, doctor.
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 05:58 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442C81FB.79CE0CE8@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> happen so I looked for an earthquake that I could use as proof."  Real
> good science there, doctor.

Again, the LORD's purpose for me here is to inform rather than to
prove/convince as seems to be the purpose of HIS four horsemen.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Robibnikoff - 31 Mar 2006 15:06 GMT
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message snip

> There is no such number on that scale. The amount of power you're talking
> about wouldn't be an "earthquake." It would be the utter destruction of
> the crust of the planet. It wouldn't be "making way" for anybody. There
> wouldn't be any surface left nor anybody to see for whom this "way" was
> "made."

Why are you talking to this knucklehead like he'll actually understand you?
I think the only way to penetrate his thick skull is with a hammer and
chisel ;)
Signature

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557

Uncle Vic - 31 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT
Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

> Will be available to "glow"

You're radioactive?

Signature

Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.  
    -Penn Jillette

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism,  dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> > Will be available to "glow"
>
> You're radioactive?

No.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong earthquake that
impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Bob Myers - 29 Mar 2006 20:15 GMT
> Retrospectively, the following may have been the earthquake seen by
> John when the Lamb opened the 6th seal in the prophetic vision that the
> LORD gave to him:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

ROTFL...right...a localized earthquake that has nothing whatsoever
to distinguish it from any of the other similar quakes that occur with
great regularity is THAT earthquake.

Is THAT the best you can do?

Bob M.
Larry Heath - 29 Mar 2006 21:03 GMT
>> Why am I not surprised?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
> Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
> http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Ah I see the great morphing, Chungmister, has slipped the pearly gates of my
kill file once again. Down damned speaker of lies, and all manor of utter
nonsense, back from whence you came.

I was actually really really hoping that the dear old chungmister would in
deed be ruptured away, somewhere, anywhere but, here.

Later Larry
aa # 2216
Richard Smol - 29 Mar 2006 21:05 GMT
> > Why am I not surprised?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

You said the 29th, not the 28th! And it is no real surprise that an
earthquake occurs in Japan, since that country is on top of a
well-known fault line.

Your prediction is a dud. Will you get lost now?

RS
Ace Berserker - 29 Mar 2006 21:08 GMT
>Your prediction is a dud. Will you get lost now?

Fat chance. Next he'll be jabbering about a 10-day window of
'possibility'.
Nosterill - 30 Mar 2006 14:34 GMT
> >Your prediction is a dud. Will you get lost now?
>
> Fat chance. Next he'll be jabbering about a 10-day window of
> 'possibility'.

Then ten week, ten month, ten year and so on because the Babble can't
be wrong.
Mark K. Bilbo - 29 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
<1143638389.699525.7030@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>...

>> Why am I not surprised?
>>
>> Steve
>
> Retrospectively,

Nothing's happening...

Signature

Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------

"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Mark K. Bilbo - 30 Mar 2006 00:09 GMT
Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
<1143638389.699525.7030@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>...

>> Why am I not surprised?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

That was yesterday.

Signature

Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------

"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

I just love this one...

"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Cary Kittrell - 30 Mar 2006 00:16 GMT
> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> <1143638389.699525.7030@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> That was yesterday.

Yabbut, a thousand years is as but a single day to the LORD.

So, anything in the last millennium is close enough for god work.

Jeez, I don't know why I have to explain these things...

-- cary
Nosterill - 30 Mar 2006 14:13 GMT
> > Why am I not surprised?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Magnitude 6! Lol! Not exactly unusual for that part of the world, is it?
Les Hellawell - 30 Mar 2006 14:17 GMT
>> > Why am I not surprised?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Magnitude 6! Lol! Not exactly unusual for that part of the world, is it?

It would be a rare day that would not have a tremor somewhere, Chung
has been tremoring for weeks.

--
Les Hellawell

Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Mar 2006 22:43 GMT
> > > Why am I not surprised?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Magnitude 6!

That is 1000 times stronger than a magnitude 3.  It may very well be the
earthquake described as "great" (Rev. 6:12) by John when he experienced
the prophetic vision as described in Revelation.

It shook buildings in Tokyo despite having an epicenter 275 miles away
and 255 miles below the surface.

> Lol!

"Written laughter is silent despair."

> Not exactly unusual for that part of the world, is it?

Actually, such a **deep** earthquake is unusual for any part of the
world.  Moreover, earthquakes of a magnitude of 6 or greater is unusual
for any part of the world.  Smaller ones (around magnitude 3-4) are
actually more usual for that part of the world.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat **today**(03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm
EST, if the LORD is willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/o63zh
Don Kirkman - 31 Mar 2006 23:12 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442C5114.B607DAA1@heartmdphd.com>:

>> > Retrospectively, the following may have been the earthquake seen by
>> > John when the Lamb opened the 6th seal in the prophetic vision that the
>> > LORD gave to him:

>> Magnitude 6!

>That is 1000 times stronger than a magnitude 3.  It may very well be the
>earthquake described as "great" (Rev. 6:12) by John when he experienced
>the prophetic vision as described in Revelation.

The measurement at the strongest point, north of Tokyo, was a 3 on the
Japanese scale of one to seven.
 
"The Japanese "shindo" scale for measuring earthquakes is more commonly
used in Japan than the Richter scale. Shindo refers to the intensity of
an earthquake at a given location, i.e. what people actually feel at a
given location, while the Richter scale measures the magnitude of an
earthquake, i.e. the energy an earthquake releases at the epicenter.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2116.html

>It shook buildings in Tokyo despite having an epicenter 275 miles away
>and 255 miles below the surface.

"The shindo scale ranges from shindo one, a slight earthquake felt only
by people who are not moving, to shindo seven, a severe earthquake.
Shindo two to four are still minor earthquakes that do not cause damage,
while objects start to fall at shindo five, and heavier damage occurs at
shindo six and seven."
Ibid.

"Earthquakes can occur anywhere between the Earth's surface and about
700 kilometers* below the surface. For scientific purposes, this
earthquake depth range of 0 - 700 km is divided into three zones:
shallow, intermediate, and deep.

* 700 km is roughly 440 miles, nearly twice as deep as the 3/28/06 Japan
earthquake..

"Shallow earthquakes are between 0 and 70 km deep; intermediate
earthquakes, 70 - 300 km deep; and deep earthquakes, 300 - 700 km deep.
In general, the term "deep-focus earthquakes" is applied to earthquakes
deeper than 70 km. All earthquakes deeper than 70 km are localized
within great slabs of shallow lithosphere that are sinking into the
Earth's mantle."
http://quake.ualr.edu/public/eqsize.htm

>> Not exactly unusual for that part of the world, is it?

>Actually, such a **deep** earthquake is unusual for any part of the
>world.  Moreover, earthquakes of a magnitude of 6 or greater is unusual
>for any part of the world.  Smaller ones (around magnitude 3-4) are
>actually more usual for that part of the world.

[Begin]
The quake's deep focus meant the effect on the Japanese mainland was
limited. The area most affected, north of Tokyo, registered readings of
up to 3 on the Japanese intensity scale of 7 but there were no reports
of injuries or damage there.

The magnitude of the earthquake was measured according to a technique
similar to the Richter scale, but adjusted for Japan's geological
characteristics.

Earthquakes are common in Japan, one of the world's most seismically
active areas. The country accounts for about 20 percent of the world's
earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.

In October 2004, an earthquake with a magnitude of 6.8 struck the
Niigata region in northern Japan, killing 40 people and injuring more
than 3,000.

That was the deadliest quake since a magnitude 7.3 tremor hit the city
of Kobe in 1995, killing more than 6,400.
[End]
http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=n
SP26422&imageid=&cap
=

Maybe the Niigata 6.8 or the Kobe 7.3 was really the earthquake John
saw?  6.0 is pretty feeble and quite common, as you would know if you
lived on the West Coast or had traveled much.

Or maybe you should consider whether John saw the 1923 Kanto earthquake
that killed about 100,000 Japanese?  Or some of the similar sized quakes
in China and the Middle East?  Or whether John saw a literal earthquake
at all?
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 05:58 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442C5114.B607DAA1@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> The measurement at the strongest point, north of Tokyo, was a 3 on the
> Japanese scale of one to seven.

This does not change what John may have experienced during the prophetic
vision at that moment after the opening of the 6th seal... a moment that
he describes as a "great earthquake."  It remains possible that so much
energy was released in the spiritual realm by the opeing of the 6th seal
that it caused the magnitude 6 earthquake at a point 255 miles below the
vicinity of Tokyo.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

Don Kirkman - 01 Apr 2006 09:16 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <442E0882.51EB696@heartmdphd.com>:

>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article <442C5114.B607DAA1@heartmdphd.com>:

>> >> > Retrospectively, the following may have been the earthquake seen by
>> >> > John when the Lamb opened the 6th seal in the prophetic vision that the
>> >> > LORD gave to him:

>> >> Magnitude 6!

>> >That is 1000 times stronger than a magnitude 3.  It may very well be the
>> >earthquake described as "great" (Rev. 6:12) by John when he experienced
>> >the prophetic vision as described in Revelation.

>> The measurement at the strongest point, north of Tokyo, was a 3 on the
>> Japanese scale of one to seven.

>This does not change what John may have experienced during the prophetic
>vision at that moment after the opening of the 6th seal... a moment that
>he describes as a "great earthquake."  It remains possible that so much
>energy was released in the spiritual realm by the opeing of the 6th seal
>that it caused the magnitude 6 earthquake at a point 255 miles below the
>vicinity of Tokyo.

No, but it certainly challenges your saying the rather weak Tokyo
earthquake may have been the one John saw, doesn't it?
Signature

Don Kirkman

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <442E0882.51EB696@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> No, but it certainly challenges your saying the rather weak Tokyo
> earthquake may have been the one John saw, doesn't it?

No, because John left unwritten how he perceived the "great earthquake,"
the possibility remains that he felt the earthquake while in the
spiritual realm rather than saw its effect on the earth's surface.

Moreover, a magnitude 6 earthquake is not a weak one.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

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6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat (04/06/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
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http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

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GaryG - 01 Apr 2006 20:43 GMT
> > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> > article <442E0882.51EB696@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Moreover, a magnitude 6 earthquake is not a weak one.

But, your foolish advisory was for a "great", "global" earthquake, but that
wimpy little quake in Tokyo was not "great", by any standard, regardless of
it's depth.  It's obvious that you're just grasping at straws, trying to
find data that fits with your foolish "advisories".

FWIW, in 2005, there were 88 "signficant" earthquakes recorded around the
world, or 1 every 4 days!!!  These quakes all measured more than 6.5 on the
Richter scale and caused "fatalities, injuries or substantial damage".

For reference:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqarchives/significant/sig_2005.php

By comparison, the Tokyo quake was as insignificant as your lunatic
predictions of global destruction.

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Apr 2006 07:37 GMT
> > > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> > > article <442E0882.51EB696@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> wimpy little quake in Tokyo was not "great", by any standard, regardless of
> it's depth.

Again, magnitude 6 is neither wimpy nor little.

> It's obvious that you're just grasping at straws, trying to
> find data that fits with your foolish "advisories".

No.  Simply remaining watchful because the 03/29/2006 still looks to be
possibly the same one that John saw in the prophetic vision of the
future given to him by LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 6:12).

> FWIW, in 2005, there were 88 "signficant" earthquakes recorded around the
> world, or 1 every 4 days!!!  These quakes all measured more than 6.5 on the
> Richter scale and caused "fatalities, injuries or substantial damage".

Yes.  This is why the deep magnitude 6 Tokyo earthquake the night before
the 03/29/06 total solar eclipse stands out as amazing because there
were no casualties nor injuries.

> For reference:
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqarchives/significant/sig_2005.php
>
> By comparison, the Tokyo quake was as insignificant as your lunatic
> predictions of global destruction.

If the magnitude 6 Tokyo earthquake is the same one that John
experienced in his prophetic vision of the future as described in
Revelation 6:12, it will have at least this significance and would
explain why John did not describe either death or destruction associated
with this "great earthquake" ...  there was none (twilight zone music
playing in the background).

GOD is great.

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen sometime
between now and the end of the year, the above verses which are from
both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

GaryG - 02 Apr 2006 23:37 GMT
> > > > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> > > > article <442E0882.51EB696@heartmdphd.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 75 lines]
>
> GOD is great.

Ossama bin Laden would agree with you, and says the same thing.

GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 03 Apr 2006 03:17 GMT
<snip>

> > If the magnitude 6 Tokyo earthquake is the same one that John
> > experienced in his prophetic vision of the future as described in
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ossama bin Laden would agree with you, and says the same thing.

Without the LORD, your comments, thoughts, and beliefs are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding the
catastrophic event (Revelation 6:14) that may possibly happen very soon,
the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know.  It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7.  Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 10:33 PM (Tokyo time) on 03/28/06, there was a strong and deep
magnitude 6 earthquake that impacted Tokyo:

http://tinyurl.com/oqrlz

Then on 03/29/06, an unusual total solar eclipse happened in Turkey at
2:00 PM (LT) that darkened the skies of the ancient cities where the 7
Churches of Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in
Revelation (1:11 and then chapters 2 through 3).  A parallel solar
eclipse apparently happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which
is the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. This total solar eclipse could
very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic
vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse
of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" did precede the solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12. And now we face a
possible nuclear showdown with Iran that may result in the fulfillment
of the rest of the elements seen by John for the opening of the 6th seal
(Revelation 6:12-17):

http://tinyurl.com/eb6xl

http://tinyurl.com/o4m2x

http://tinyurl.com/ldm6m

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the catastrophic event heralded by the 14th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/

johac - 30 Mar 2006 08:15 GMT
> Why am I not surprised?
>
> Steve

Nobody was except Chunky.
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
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