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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / March 2006No drugs for this guy. Comments
This is what I do every day. Any weakness obvious or is this folly. Should I get my affairs in order? BP 140/90 LDL 150 if lucky hdl 70 ish, Still Cabg 4 years ago lingers in the back of my mind. Folly seems to resonate with me but not in a negative way. No prescribed drugs. Age 58 and counting. I do not like allopaths. Bill Heart Omega-3 Fish oil 500 300 for 41.95 vs-1045 .14 ea x2 =.28 Heart Ester-c 500 300 for 19.96 vs-1347 .07 ea x2 =.14 Heart Cordyceps 520mg 100 for 12.16 vs-2213 .12 ea x2 =.24 Heart Cocoa Extracr 60 caps for 6.00 AmerMed.com .10 ea x2 =.20 Heart Pantethine 60 Tabs 300 mg for 24.00 .40 ea x1 =.40 Blood Sugar Cinnamon Extract 100 500 mg for 9.97 vs-2361 .10 ea x2 =.20 Heart Hawthorn Berrie extract 300 caps for 24.97 vs-1741 .08 ea x2 =.16 Heart Asprin 300 caps 81 mg for 12.00 Bayer .04 ea x2 =.08 Heart no-flush niacin 100 caps 500 mg vs-1310 .13 ea x2 =.26 Heart alpha-lipoic acid 120 tabs 100 mg for 20.37 vs-1397 .16 ea x2 =.32 Heart L-Carnitine 150 tabs 500 mg vs-1698 for 45.00 .30 ea x2 = .60 Heart L-Arginine 300 tabs 500 mg vs-1382 for 21.00 .07 ea x2 =.14 Heart Grape Seed 300 tabs 60 mg vs-2118 for 49.00 .16 ea x2 =.32 Heart Garlic 300 tab 500 mg vs-1184 for 15.00 .05 ea x2 = .10 Heart Pycnogenol 90 caps 50 mg vs-2167 for 36.00 .40 ea x1 =.40 Heart Multiple 180 for 21.99 Natrol .12 ea x1 =.12 Heart Policosanol with C10 10 mg 120 tabs for 35.98 Source naturals .29 ea x1 =.29 Heart Folic Acid 300 caps 800 MCG for 8.59 vs-1149 .03 ea x1 AM =.03 Heart CoQ-10 45 caps 100 mg for 25.00 no-1555 .55 ea x1 AM =.55 Heart Magnesium Glycinate 400 180 caps for 20.00 Kal .05 ea x.5 AM =.03 Total ~ 3.90 +.55 COQ = ~4.50 a day 135.00 a month  SignatureLocated In S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. Vision Problems? Look at http://www.ocutech.com/ ~us$1500 > This is what I do every day. Any weakness obvious or is this folly. > Should I get my affairs in order? BP 140/90 LDL 150 if lucky hdl 70 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill Both your BP and LDL seem a little high, but IIRC you don't react well to statins. There any many types of BP lowering drugs out there. Some quite simple - such as diuretics. I get tested at least once a year with either a stress echo or a necular stress test. Bill > Heart Omega-3 Fish oil 500 300 for 41.95 vs-1045 .14 ea x2 > =.28 [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Total ~ 3.90 +.55 COQ = ~4.50 a day 135.00 a month > This is what I do every day. Any weakness obvious or is this folly. > Should I get my affairs in order? BP 140/90 LDL 150 if lucky hdl 70 [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Total ~ 3.90 +.55 COQ = ~4.50 a day 135.00 a month Your not given your height and weight suggests that you are not lean & trim. Becoming lean & trim helps most people to reduce their blood pressure and cholesterol even to the point of coming off all medications and supplements. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (03/23/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8 William Wagner <not-to-here-williamwag@gmail.com> wrote in part: > This is what I do every day. Any weakness obvious or is this folly. >Should I get my affairs in order? BP 140/90 LDL 150 if lucky hdl 70 [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >Total ~ 3.90 +.55 COQ = ~4.50 a day 135.00 a month Bill, I don't know what some of those things are, or what's actually in the bottles. A few comments anyway: Drop the Folic acid and probably the Heart Multiple assuming it contains folic acic, vitamins 6 1nd 12. The evidence is pretty clear now that those are bad for heart disease, not good. You should be under an MD's care for blood pressure. You don't want the heart disease to worsen, and you don't want a stroke. No homeopath can help with that... Weight and exercise level ok? -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA > Bill, I don't know what some of those things are, or what's actually in the > bottles. A few comments anyway: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA Drop the Folic etc sure is a step change in the use of supplements. I wonder what else needs to be looked at? I weigh 190 Lbs. at 5 foot ten inches. I exercise 40 minutes every day doing Tai Chi and Tai Chi Sword with warm ups. Since losing muscle mass about 22 % strength has fallen off but is coming back. I also walk about 1/2 hour each day and sometimes bike too. Sometimes I just stand for 20 minutes without moving. AND the garden is starting to call my name. Tai Chi Sword is about 6 minutes and is sort of like Tai Chi but holding on to a forty inch baseball bat. Fun Stuff! Bill SignatureLocated In S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. Vision Problems? Look at http://www.ocutech.com/ ~us$1500 > > Bill, I don't know what some of those things are, or what's actually in the > > bottles. A few comments anyway: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I weigh 190 Lbs. at 5 foot ten inches. You are my height except 50 lbs heavier. The LORD helped me lose 25 lbs by teaching me the 2PD-OMER Approach. Then, HE gave me the strength to bench press 245 lbs and the stamina to run the length of the Silver Comet Trail from Mableton to Rockmart and back (all day): http://tinyurl.com/ouar9 Perhaps HE will help you too if you ask HIM. All glory and praise belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-) Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (03/23/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8 Large Snip > You are my height except 50 lbs heavier. > > The LORD helped me lose 25 lbs by teaching me the 2PD-OMER Approach. > Then, HE gave me the strength to bench press 245 lbs and the stamina to > run the length of the Silver Comet Trail from Mableton to Rockmart and > back (all day): So I am 50 Lb overweight or are you 50 Lb. underweight. Perhaps some other weight 20/30 for instance. My calfs are about 15 inches down from 18 due to my reponse to Lipitor 80. Granted my running days are just about gone. Think of my body type as sort of like Popeye with large calfs and large forearms. I can do a single leg deep knee bend. I can also yield rather well to help folks go where they want. A martial thing useful even when food shopping. ;)) Some folks seek lean and trim I went with strong and flexible. I practiced many years to get here still I know what CABG means. BTW I sort of eat less than 2 lbs . Dad is 82 but Mom and sisters and brothers all are dead or seeing cardio folks. Bill PS Found A funny MPEG of a Eskimo fishing that had a narrator speaking about the virtues of Omega 3 oils. The fellow get a strike and starts pulling in the wonderful deep sea fish alas only to be eaten by a killer whale. My Gmail address works . I can send it as an attachment if desired or perhaps you can find it some other way. SignatureLocated In S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. Vision Problems? Look at http://www.ocutech.com/ ~us$1500 > Large Snip > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Bill If your waistline is more than 35 inches, you are not as lean&trim as you should optimally be for your desire to be on minimal prescriptional medications while lowering risks for CVD progression. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (03/23/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8 It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <1143106057.876601.104220@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>: >> Large Snip >> > You are my height except 50 lbs heavier. >> > The LORD helped me lose 25 lbs by teaching me the 2PD-OMER Approach. >> > Then, HE gave me the strength to bench press 245 lbs and the stamina to >> > run the length of the Silver Comet Trail from Mableton to Rockmart and >> > back (all day): >> So I am 50 Lb overweight or are you 50 Lb. underweight. Perhaps some >> other weight 20/30 for instance. My calfs are about 15 inches down [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> can also yield rather well to help folks go where they want. A martial >> thing useful even when food shopping. ;)) >> Some folks seek lean and trim I went with strong and flexible. I >> practiced many years to get here still I know what CABG means. >> BTW I sort of eat less than 2 lbs . Dad is 82 but Mom and sisters and >> brothers all are dead or seeing cardio folks. >If your waistline is more than 35 inches, you are not as lean&trim as >you should optimally be for your desire to be on minimal prescriptional >medications while lowering risks for CVD progression. OTOH if it takes someone two hours and 49 minutes to run a half marathon (13.1 miles) that person may not be as fit as he thinks he is. My best half marathon time was 1:45 when I was sixty years old. :-) The Silver Comet Trail round trip from Mableton to Rockmart and back is about 38 miles, build on abandoned railroad right of way which means little or no steep grades. Many people who have built up their endurance can cover that in ten to twelve hours, walking at pretty much normal pace. Will be available to debunk stuff as interest and time allow. SignatureDon Kirkman > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > article <1143106057.876601.104220@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (13.1 miles) that person may not be as fit as he thinks he is. My best > half marathon time was 1:45 when I was sixty years old. :-) Running remains an opportunity for me to share the LORD with all those who ask what "Follow me to Paradise" written on the back of my shirt means :-) And, when there is a lull in folks asking, it would be my choice to sing praise songs glorifying the LORD while running otherwise I would run twice as fast. All praise and glory belong to the LORD, now and forevermore. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing: http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8 > This is what I do every day. Any weakness obvious or is this folly. > Should I get my affairs in order? BP 140/90 LDL 150 if lucky hdl 70 [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Total ~ 3.90 +.55 COQ = ~4.50 a day 135.00 a month You might want to eat a couple of ounces of fish instead of fish oil capsules. "jay1000" <jfschonSpamguarD@cox.net> wrote in part: >You might want to eat a couple of ounces of fish instead of fish oil >capsules. Why? -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA |
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