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Prevention Magazine on healing chocolate
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Peabody - 19 Mar 2006 17:13 GMT In this morning's newspaper I received a small promotional booklet for Prevention, which in turn offered 10 free "reports" amd a trial subsciption. One of the reports is "Healing with Chocolate."
It is promised that the Chocolate report will give the specific brand name of the chocolate which is highest in beneficial flavanols - the brand used in various studies.
Well, I'm guessing the brand is Dove dark chocolate, because Mars has funded some of these studies, but maybe not. Anyway, before going through the drill of ordering a free subscription which isn't free and can't be cancelled, I thought I would ask here if anybody has already seen the Prevention report, or a similar article there, and can answer the brand-name question.
Susan - 19 Mar 2006 17:50 GMT > In this morning's newspaper I received a small promotional booklet > for Prevention, which in turn offered 10 free "reports" amd a trial [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > has already seen the Prevention report, or a similar article there, > and can answer the brand-name question. I don't care; I eat small amounts of very dark chocolate (a lot less sweetened than Dove) that taste best to me. Chocolove 77% is my favorite, and Scharffen Berger 82%, and Hachez very dark.
Susan
Jim Chinnis - 19 Mar 2006 18:26 GMT Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part:
>x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Susan The highest in flavanols would undoubtedly be the unprocessed stuff consumed by natives of Central America. I do as Susan, and for the same reasons. Mars has funded the work and thus has supplied the dark chocolate. They are busy coming out with all sorts of new "health" products based on the chocolate. The stuff that has just hit the shelves in the US is also packed with folate, vitamin B-6 and vitamin B-12, a combination now just conclusively shown to worsen heart disease. ;-)
In parts of Europe, Mars sells a less-adulterated cocoa called, I think, CocoaPro.
Schmidt's dark chocolate is the very best tasting, if you can find it. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Susan - 19 Mar 2006 18:31 GMT > The highest in flavanols would undoubtedly be the unprocessed stuff consumed > by natives of Central America. I do as Susan, and for the same reasons. Mars [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Schmidt's dark chocolate is the very best tasting, if you can find it. I haven't had it, but I doubt it surpasses Chocolove. They add extra cocoa butter and the texture just spreads the flavor over your tongue beautifully.
That said, it's actually cocoa, not chocolate bars, that's highest. The bars with the highest cocoa % content should be the healthiest.
Susan
Jim Chinnis - 19 Mar 2006 19:16 GMT Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part:
>That said, it's actually cocoa, not chocolate bars, that's highest. The >bars with the highest cocoa % content should be the healthiest. Unfortunately, it appears to depend on how its processed. I buy cocoa powder and make cocoa in the winter. I know to avoid "Dutch process" cocoa, but aside from that it's a crapshoot. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Susan - 19 Mar 2006 19:38 GMT > Unfortunately, it appears to depend on how its processed. I buy cocoa powder > and make cocoa in the winter. I know to avoid "Dutch process" cocoa, but > aside from that it's a crapshoot. That's true.
Susan
William Wagner - 19 Mar 2006 18:42 GMT > Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA I've found the Mar's product too rich for my blood :)) By this I mean too expensive. No need for candy bars for me. Tasty especially with blueberries though.
I found Cocoa Extract 450 Mg via AmerMed Nutraceuticals Perhaps grasping for straws .
Bill https://www.amermed.com/
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Susan - 19 Mar 2006 18:49 GMT > I found Cocoa Extract 450 Mg via AmerMed Nutraceuticals > Perhaps grasping for straws . Ooh, that makes me so awfully sad. No chocolate melting on your tongue? :-(
Susan
William Wagner - 19 Mar 2006 19:08 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Susan Not too worry I'm more of a Brie kind of guy. Herring etc a fav look Babette's Feast some rainy day. Babette's Feast is a movie we like.
Remember those Aztec folks gave us quite a bit of things when they lost to Spain.
1) Chocolate
2) Peppers, Eggplant and Tomatoes All Toxic leaved and some suggest tied to joint problems.
3) Syphilis
Bill
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Juhana Harju - 19 Mar 2006 19:24 GMT : Remember those Aztec folks gave us quite a bit of things when they : lost to Spain. : : 1) Chocolate : : 2) Peppers, are high in flavonoids and vitamin C.
: Eggplant is high in flavonoids and fiber.
: and Tomatoes are high in lycopene which is associated with reduced cardiovascular disease and lower prostate cancer.
: All Toxic leaved and some suggest : tied to joint problems.
: 3) Syphilis The toll of diseases brought by Europeans was much more devastating: "When the Spanish arrived in the Americas they brought with them a host of diseases that the indigenous people had never come in contact with. Among these diseases was smallpox, which was very contagious and fatal. In Tenochtitla'n, because of the initial effort needed to defend themselves against the Spanish, the Aztecs, had not had time to harvest their crops, (such as corn and chiles) and so they eventually pushed themselves into a state of famine. Other indigenous groups, that had already been defeated by the Spanish were forced to work so hard for their new masters that their health fell into a very poor state." "Before the Spanish arrived in the Americas there were at least 20 million people living in the Americas. 50 years later there were only 2.6 million. More than 17 million people died in just fifty years. Translated today, that's about all the population of Australia. In terms of MesoAmerica, the area we now know as stretching from central Mexico to parts of Central America, *lost* about *90*% of its population primarily due to the Spanish invasion."
Source: http://www.worldtrek.org/odyssey/teachers/diseasetext.html
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Susan - 19 Mar 2006 19:37 GMT > Not too worry I'm more of a Brie kind of guy. I'm a brie kinda gal. Then chocolate. :-)
> Remember those Aztec folks gave us quite a bit of things when they lost > to Spain. > > 1) Chocolate Bah.
> 2) Peppers, Eggplant and Tomatoes All Toxic leaved and some suggest > tied to joint problems. Not well confirmed, unless you're allergic.
> 3) Syphilis Okay, so this you can live without...
Susan
Peabody - 19 Mar 2006 22:56 GMT Susan says...
> I eat small amounts of very dark chocolate (a lot less > sweetened than Dove) that taste best to me. Chocolove > 77% is my favorite, and Scharffen Berger 82%, and Hachez > very dark. I'm currently eating Lindt 70%, which is French/Swiss. It is $1.37 for a 100g bar at Wal-Mart, which is a lot cheaper than others I've found. But I don't know anything about the flavonols.
So I guess nobody here has seen the Prevention writeup.
Susan - 19 Mar 2006 22:59 GMT > I'm currently eating Lindt 70%, which is French/Swiss. It > is $1.37 for a 100g bar at Wal-Mart, which is a lot cheaper > than others I've found. But I don't know anything about the > flavonols. > > So I guess nobody here has seen the Prevention writeup. I don't read Prevention, no, but there was a discussion of this on the diabetes ng a few months ago, with a lot of good particulars from Jenny, IIRC.
Susan
Jim Chinnis - 19 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT Peabody <waybackKILLSPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in part:
>Susan says... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >So I guess nobody here has seen the Prevention writeup. Some of us have read all the published research. I don't think a magazine has any health "scoops" to report. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Mar 2006 18:52 GMT > In this morning's newspaper I received a small promotional booklet > for Prevention, which in turn offered 10 free "reports" amd a trial [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > has already seen the Prevention report, or a similar article there, > and can answer the brand-name question. Without the LORD, there can be no healing.
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Matti Narkia - 20 Mar 2006 01:31 GMT Below the most recent chocolate and cocoa related references:
Buijsse B, Feskens EJ, Kok FJ, Kromhout D. Cocoa intake, blood pressure, and cardiovascular mortality: the Zutphen Elderly Study. Arch Intern Med. 2006 Feb 27;166(4):411-7. PMID: 16505260 [PubMed - in process] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16505260>
Schroeter H, Heiss C, Balzer J, Kleinbongard P, Keen CL, Hollenberg NK, Sies H, Kwik-Uribe C, Schmitz HH, Kelm M. (-)-Epicatechin mediates beneficial effects of flavanol-rich cocoa on vascular function in humans. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2006 Jan 24;103(4):1024-9. Epub 2006 Jan 17. PMID: 16418281 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16418281> <http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/103/4/1024>
Ding EL, Hutfless SM, Ding X, Girotra S. Chocolate and prevention of cardiovascular disease: a systematic review. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2006 Jan 3;3:2. PMID: 16390538 [PubMed - in process] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16390538> <http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/3/1/2>
Hermann F, Spieker LE, Ruschitzka F, Sudano I, Hermann M, Binggeli C, Luscher TF, Riesen W, Noll G, Corti R. Dark chocolate improves endothelial and platelet function. Heart. 2006 Jan;92(1):119-20. No abstract available. PMID: 16365364 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16365364>
Kudes MA, Bisognano JD. Daily cocoa for hypertension, insulin resistance, and endothelial dysfunction. Curr Hypertens Rep. 2005 Dec;7(6):399-400. No abstract available. PMID: 16386193 [PubMed - in process] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16386193> <http://www.current-reports.com/cr_linkout_frmst.cfm?issn=1522-6417&vol=7&page=399>
Alonso A, de la Fuente C, Beunza JJ, Sanchez-Villegas A, Martinez-Gonzalez MA. Chocolate consumption and incidence of hypertension. Hypertension. 2005 Dec;46(6):e21-2; author reply e22. Epub 2005 Nov 14. No abstract available. PMID: 16286580 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16286580>
Ariefdjohan MW, Savaiano DA. Chocolate and cardiovascular health: is it too good to be true? Nutr Rev. 2005 Dec;63(12 Pt 1):427-30. Review. PMID: 16466080 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16466080&> <http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ilsi/nure/2005/00000063/00000012/art00004? token=0053130e1a1264f65263a3d4f58762f467c405847447b235b2f7b736a422c3a464c7a0a883 971835b66>
Ramiro E, Franch A, Castellote C, Perez-Cano F, Permanyer J, Izquierdo-Pulido M, Castell M. Flavonoids from Theobroma cacao down-regulate inflammatory mediators. J Agric Food Chem. 2005 Nov 2;53(22):8506-11. PMID: 16248545 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16248545> <http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jafcau/2005/53/i22/abs/jf0511042.html>
Chocolate, tea: health foods? How plant chemicals may help foster cardiovascular health. Heart Advis. 2005 Nov;8(11):3. No abstract available. PMID: 16350258 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16350258>
Meisel P. Hypertension, diabetes: chocolate with a single remedy? Hypertension. 2005 Nov;46(5):e17; author reply e17. Epub 2005 Oct 17. No abstract available. PMID: 16230512 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16230512>
A fairly comprehensive list of earlier references:
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/msg/41caa9b4b45b88a2>
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Matti Narkia - 20 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT Chocolate and cocoa related Medscape articles:
Chocolate Milk May Improve Recovery After Exercise <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524370>
Cocoa May Cut Blood Pressure <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524514>
Why Cocoa May Help Heart Health <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/521806>
Dark Chocolate May Improve Endothelial Function in Male Smokers <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/520228>
Dark Chocolate May Improve Insulin Sensitivity/Resistance and BP <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/501333>
Dark Chocolate May Cut High Blood Pressure <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/510234>
Chocolate May Help Smokers' Blood Vessels <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/513784>
Dark Chocolate May Ease Diarrhea <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/513908>
Cocoa, Flavanols and Cardiovascular Risk <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/490533>
Dark Chocolate Inhibits Platelet Aggregation in Healthy <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/459588>
Long-Term Syst-Eur Data Show Pharmacologic Therapy Works -- As Does Exercise, Penicillin, and (Dark) Chocolate <http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/461364>
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