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William Wagner - 15 Feb 2006 18:49 GMT
http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8FP7D280.html

 Found this today.  Seems BMI and Lipid profiles not the standard we
think of here.

Does anyone know how to get this test?  

Below edited for copyright stuff.

Bill

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Test Helps You Predict Chances of Dying
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By LINDSEY TANNER AP Medical Writer
February 14,2006 | CHICAGO -- It sounds like a perfect parlor game for
baby boomers suddenly confronting their own mortality: What are your
chances of dying within four years? Researchers have come up with 12
risk factors to try to answer that for people who are 50 and older.
This is one game where you want a low score. Zero to 5 points says your
risk of dying in four years is less than 4 percent. With 14 points, your
risk rises to 64 percent.
Just being male gives you 2 points. So does having diabetes, being a
smoker, and getting pooped trying to walk several blocks.
Points accrue with each four-year increment after age 60.

The test doesn't ask what you eat, but it does ask if you can push a
living room chair across the floor.
The quiz is designed "to try to help doctors and families get a firmer
sense for what the future may hold," to help plan health care
accordingly, says lead author Dr. Sei Lee, a geriatrics researcher at
the San Francisco Veterans Affairs Medical Center, who helped develop it.

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The test is based on data involving 11,701 Americans over 50 who took
part in a national health survey in 1998. Funded by a grant from the
National Institute on Aging, the researchers analyzed participants'
outcomes during a four-year follow-up. They based their death-risk
survey on the health characteristics that seemed to predict death within
four years.
Their report appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical
Association.
Dr. Donald Jurivich, geriatrics chief at the University of Illinois at
Chicago, took the test and got a nice low score. Jurivich is 52. He said
he'd feel better about his score if both his parents hadn't died
prematurely.
He praised the survey for measuring people's ability to function -- such
as being able to move a piece of furniture or keep track of expenses --
signs that can be more telling than other health factors.

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blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 15 Feb 2006 19:43 GMT
Here is the test:

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/health/7075441/detail.html
blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 15 Feb 2006 19:45 GMT
Here is the test:

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/health/7075778/detail.html
William Wagner - 18 Feb 2006 23:17 GMT
> Here is the test:
>
> http://www.thewmurchannel.com/health/7075778/detail.html

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Here is the test.

Bill
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When Will You Die? Take The Test
Will You Be Alive Four Years From Now?
NEW TEST
Designed to gauge four-year longevity.
12-question survey for people over 50.
No lab tests, not even blood pressure.
Includes questions on daily functioning.
CAVEATS
About 81 percent accurate, but not foolproof.
Probably shouldn't be taken at home, but with doctor.
Does not take into account family history.
Less meaningful for those at younger end of spectrum.
HOW IT WORKS
The more points, greater the risk of dying within four years.
Just being male is two points.
One point for every four-year period past age 60.
No points for overweight, but one for underweight.
Smoking, diabetes, inactivity add points.
Zero to five points: less than four percent risk of dying.
14 points or more: 64 percent risk of dying.
BACKGROUND
Based on over 11,000 U.S. adults since 1998.
Appears in tomorrow's Journal of the American Medical Association.
THE TEST
1. Age: 60-64 years old 1 point; 65-69 2 points; 70-74 3 points; 75-79 4
points; 80-84 5 points; 85 and
older 7 points.
2. Male: 2 points.
3. Body-Mass Index: Less than 25 1 point. (Calculate by multiplying
height in inches times height in inches;
then divide weight in pounds by that total; then multiply the total by
703.)
4. Diabetes: 2 points.
5. Cancer (excluding minor skin cancers): 2 points.
6. Chronic lung disease that limits activities or requires oxygen use at
home: 2 points.
7. Congestive heart failure: 2 points.
8. Cigarette smoking in the past week: 2 points.
9. Difficulty bathing/showering because of health or memory problem: 2
points.
10. Difficulty managing money, paying bills, keeping track of expenses
because of health or memory problem:
2 points.
11. Difficulty walking several blocks because of health problem: 2
points.
12. Difficulty pushing or pulling large objects like a living room chair
because of health problem: 1 point.
Score:
0 to 5 points less than 4 percent risk of dying
6-9 points 15 percent risk
10-13 points 42 percent risk
14 or more points 64 percent risk.
Note: Researchers say the 1-point penalty for having a body-mass index
under 25 (normal weight or less) is
based on findings that being underweight is a health risk for elderly
people.

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William Wagner - 15 Feb 2006 21:52 GMT
> Here is the test:
>
> http://www.thewmurchannel.com/health/7075441/detail.html

Thank You!

This CABG guy is looking good test wise , perhaps a sex change is in
order ;))

Bill

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blackrotspon@yahoo.com - 15 Feb 2006 20:47 GMT
Here is the test:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11354108/
GaryG - 16 Feb 2006 01:35 GMT
> http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8FP7D280.html
>
>   Found this today.  Seems BMI and Lipid profiles not the standard we
> think of here.

I suspect the BMI part is a typo - they're saying that BMI <25 is a risk
factor?  And not assigning risk factors to BMI>25 or 30???

GG

> Does anyone know how to get this test?
>
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> as being able to move a piece of furniture or keep track of expenses --
> signs that can be more telling than other health factors.
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R - 08 Mar 2006 23:35 GMT
>> http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8FP7D280.html
>>
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> I suspect the BMI part is a typo - they're saying that BMI <25 is a risk
> factor?  And not assigning risk factors to BMI>25 or 30???

Because the researchers found that BMI<25 was an INDEPENDENT risk factor
for impending death.  The end stage endomorphs will register on the
other test questions.

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William Wagner - 09 Mar 2006 00:08 GMT
> >> http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8FP7D280.html
> >>
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> for impending death.  The end stage endomorphs will register on the
> other test questions.

Any chance you  can elaborate?  Starting with what are  endomorphs??

Many Thanks!

Interesting  stuff for as mortals.

Bill

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