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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / January 2006Pinging Blackrots
Blackrots, Maybe you could share your full name, professional titles (if any), education (if any), and publications (if any) ... or just leave Dr. Chung alone. I welcome Dr. Chung's posts and expertise on cardiology issues. I have no problem with his signature line. I have nothing against religious discussion if people want to debate those issues, but this is not the appropriate forum, IMHO. I wish those that choose to perpetuate some religious war would do it elsewhere, not here (Dr. Chung included). JMO. Sue Why does my question to Dr. Chung bother you personally so much as to post your question? I am curious to look any papers or abstracts or letters he might have written in a peer-reviewed journal to get a better gist of him without having to stiff through his religious infatuation and posts that ask people to "pass this on..." There are just too many Chungs that come up on Medline. Me (not a doctor) > Why does my question to Dr. Chung bother you personally so much as to > post your question? I am curious to look any papers or abstracts or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Me (not a doctor) blackrots, It is easy for anonymous posters to question the integrity of others and throw daggers. You and other anonymous posters have made several snide comments and accusations about Dr. Chung's professional credentials, seemingly because he evangelizes his religious beliefs. Although I am not particularly interested in reading through that stuff either, I am even LESS interested in listening to anonymous posters tear down a professional that posts his full name and contact information on this Usenet. Sorry, but your thinly veiled attempt to appear to show genuine interest in Dr. Chung's publications, is a bit laughable now. If you were truely interested and wanted to get to know this person in a mutually respectful manner, you would not be continuously making snide remarks and being so antagonistic. Get to know him by treating him as a human being, not an enemy. He may then share his publications (if he has published). I may be wrong but this is JMO, Sue (nondoctor) Might you really be Dr. Chung? > Might you really be Dr. Chung? No, I am not Dr. Chung. I am not a Doctor. I just get sick of the religious fights on this Usenet, that have turned into rumor and slander, and questioning someone's professional knowledge and integrity. There are not too many cardiologists that actually post here, so I hate to antagonize those that do. I also know that the more one tries to quiet an "evangelist" the more they will turn up the volume. I know you are not responsible for all the fighting.. but you just happened to be the poster that has finally received my complaints. Bottomline: I really do not want to get drawn into the religious stuff here. Take Care, Sue Sue wrote: Bottomline: I really do not want to get drawn into the religious stuff here. I totally agree with you. It is turning out that 99% of what is posted in this newsgroup is not related to cardiologic issues at all. I, in fact, did come here a while back to post a question, but decided to ask elsewhere (at The Cleveland Clinic). Me (not a doctor but in the medical realm) > Sue wrote: Bottomline: I really do not want to get drawn into the > religious stuff [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Me (not a doctor but in the medical realm) I am glad that you got your questions answered at the forum of your choice. If you are no longer here with cardiologic questions and you do not want to get caught up in the religious stuff here, then why are you here? Just curious, -Sue Same reason you are. blackrots...@yahoo.com wrote: > Same reason you are. That is not what I discern. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/cpayh For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/8juld It's the truth, as The Lord is my witness! > It's the truth, as The Lord is my witness! That would be analogous to calling the Judge to witness on your behalf: http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/cpayh For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/8juld >Might you really be Dr. Chung? Aha - the first refuge of a troll is to accuse someone that posts something they dislike of being a sock puppet for someone they assume most dislike. It is nothing more than an ad hominem by proxy. Lame. John Nope, not a troll. >>Might you really be Dr. Chung? > > Aha - the first refuge of a troll is to accuse someone that posts > something they dislike of being a sock puppet for someone they assume > most dislike. It is nothing more than an ad hominem by proxy. Lame. Oh lookie. It's "John" again, doing what "John" does best. Draw fire from Chung. Chung's sock puppets usually type it TROLL so it's, um, louder. While they troll. I bet you forgot, "John." Pastorio > >>Might you really be Dr. Chung? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh lookie. It's "John" again, doing what "John" does best. Draw fire > from Chung. Actually, what John seems to be doing best here in SMC is draw you out, Bob :-)) Now, please don't forget to forward the following link to everyone: http://tinyurl.com/8juld Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/cpayh For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/8juld >>>>Might you really be Dr. Chung? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Actually, what John seems to be doing best here in SMC is draw you out, > Bob :-)) Oh, look written laughter from Chung. Poor guy must be feeling loads of despair. Or could it be an ASCII self-congratulatory smirk at his "witty" comment - the play on words? Or could Chung be more restrained and proper, just grinning because anything more is unseemly, never mind all the rest of his devious ploys? Hard to tell with Chung, given the slipperiness of his actions. But it's amusement, just the same and it certainly does have a lovely tone of smugness about it. Tone, remember how you ridiculed the idea of tone in writing, Chung...? Ooops. Discernment ray gun sputtered that time. A noble calling, that, drawing me out thing. Keeps my laughter mechanism in fine working order, lets me practice a low-level logic analysis (all that's needed), and gives me good typing practice so I can poke holes in your "science" like your most recent foray into plate tectonics. That really is a hoot - that you have not the remotest notion of the power of a nuclear explosion and not the remotest idea of what plates are like. Didn't stop you from developing a howler of a "theory." Next you'll be telling us to read Velikovski and Blavatski because you "discern" their correctness. Bwah... It keeps the mind sharp to read stupid comments like the ones that "John" posts. Makes one appreciate the intelligent ones so much more. Oh, don't worry, you're not in that group, so no responsibility to keep up the intelligence. Chats not going so well...? Pastorio > > >>Might you really be Dr. Chung? > > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Actually, what John seems to be doing best here in SMC is draw you out, > Bob :-)) And you're doing what you do best; lying for jeebus. > > > >>Might you really be Dr. Chung? > > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > And you're doing what you do best; lying for jeebus. No. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/cpayh For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/8juld As someone who looks at this group a lot, thought I'd share my view. Dr Chung has helped a very large number of people on this forum, including myself, and I am sure there is a large silent majority that really appreciate this. Most doctors wouldn't dream of speaking to Joe Public outside of surgery... unless they were given a credit card number. Personally I don't mind the evangelestic stuff that comes with it but I think it has gone a bit over the top for people who want to talk about cardiology. Dr Chung is clearly a very intelligent guy. I'm puzzled why all this fascination with March 29th as to me the only thing that is special about it is that it just seems to be another solar eclipse. The Bible itself warns against reading too much into dates... "I will come like a thief in the night..." (Rev 3:3). As he is a scientist, I would love Dr Chung to give a logical, reasoned, scientific explanation what it is so special about 29th March 2006 and this solar eclipse in particular. Many "Christian" sects give these sort of catacysmic predictions of course and when they don't turn true the leaders turn to more and more desperate measures to assert themselves, just look at the Heavensgate sect for example which ended up in an act of mass suicide. When the earthquake doesn't happen I hope we will not give Dr Chung such a hard time that he will discontinue to help people on this forum with their cardiology issues. In my mad moments, I do keep wondering though what we would we say to Dr Chung if there really was a global earthquake on 29th March... Oh well said my bit, shall go and lurk in the shadows again. Jerry > Blackrots, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Sue > As someone who looks at this group a lot, thought I'd share my view. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > think it has gone a bit over the top for people who want to talk about > cardiology. My apologies for the distraction :-) Please forgive me for all my iniquities. > Dr Chung is clearly a very intelligent guy. I'm puzzled why all this > fascination with March 29th as to me the only thing that is special about it > is that it just seems to be another solar eclipse. It's trajectory suggests that it is **the** eclipse seen in the vision described in Revelation 6:12. > The Bible itself warns > against reading too much into dates... "I will come like a thief in the > night..." (Rev 3:3). Actually, this is not a warning but rather a prediction that there will not be fanfare. The only voice you will hear announcing the arrival of the thief is from the watchmen who are awake to see him. > As he is a scientist, I would love Dr Chung to give a > logical, reasoned, scientific explanation what it is so special about 29th > March 2006 and this solar eclipse in particular. See above. > Many "Christian" sects give these sort of catacysmic predictions of course > and when they don't turn true the leaders turn to more and more desperate > measures to assert themselves, just look at the Heavensgate sect for example > which ended up in an act of mass suicide. I am not a member of a Christian sect. > When the earthquake doesn't happen > I hope we will not give Dr Chung such a hard time that he will discontinue > to help people on this forum with their cardiology issues. Hopefully, you don't wish to prophesy and mean **if** the earthquake doesn't happen. It remains possible. Either way, my continuing to help people here in SMC will depend on the LORD's will. For all I know, the LORD may call me Home even before the earthquake. I am ready. > In my mad moments, I do keep wondering though what we would we say to Dr > Chung if there really was a global earthquake on 29th March... If this possibility of a global earthquake is realized on 03/29/2006, we will all be knocked facedown on the ground acknowledging the King of kings and Lord of lords. > Oh well said my bit, shall go and lurk in the shadows again. > > Jerry You are welcome to stay in the light :-) Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat (02/02/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST: http://tinyurl.com/cpayh For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/8juld [Jerry] > Dr Chung has helped a very large number of people on this forum, including > myself, and I am sure there is a large silent majority that really > appreciate this. Most doctors wouldn't dream of speaking to Joe Public > outside of surgery... unless they were given a credit card number. I agree. > Personally I don't mind the evangelestic stuff that comes with it but I > think it has gone a bit over the top for people who want to talk about > cardiology. Possible, but that's because of the many blow it up out of proportion. > I hope we will not give Dr Chung such a hard time that he will discontinue > to help people on this forum with their cardiology issues. Me too! Kind regards! Henk |
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