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Meta-analysis finds fish oil reduces heart rate

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Dan - 27 Sep 2005 15:29 GMT
The results of a meta-analysis reported online on September 19, 2005 in
the American Heart Association journal Circulation, "provide firm
evidence that fish oil consumption directly or indirectly affects
cardiac electrophysiology in humans," via the finding that consuming
the oil reduces heart rate. Higher heart rate is a major independent
risk factor for death from cardiovascular disease, especially sudden
death.

http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/9/27/1262873.html
Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com - 28 Sep 2005 01:46 GMT
> The results of a meta-analysis reported online on September 19, 2005 in
> the American Heart Association journal Circulation, "provide firm
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> http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/9/27/1262873.html

I've seen that rate decrease in myself, I think. I dropped 5 to 10 bpm
going from 0 to 10 grams of fish oil per day. But attributed it to
something else I was doing right.

How about that.

SBH
Fay - 28 Sep 2005 08:51 GMT
> The results of a meta-analysis reported online on September 19, 2005 in
> the American Heart Association journal Circulation, "provide firm
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> http://debunkbigpharma.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/9/27/1262873.html

If I overstrain myself and get serious joint pains I'll drink a couple
of desert spoonfuls of omega-3 enriched cod liver oil because it helps
more than anything else I've tried.

I sometimes suffer from episodes of SVCs. They last a few hours to a
couple of days. If they start in the evening they're still there when I
go to bed. I haven't found anything which will make them go away.

A week ago I had very painful hands from doing too much pruning in the
new overgrown garden of a friend. I usually give such strains a week to
go away by themselves. Yesterday evening they still hurt a lot, still
uncomfortable to hold a big mug of coffee, so I took my two spoonfuls
of cod liver oil. Within half an hour the SVCs which happened to be
annoying me at the time disappeared.

I'll have to wait for a few more SVC episodes to find out if this was
co-incidence or an effect.

Fay, middle aged or old, how do you tell?
Bob (this one) - 28 Sep 2005 17:34 GMT
> Fay, middle aged or old, how do you tell?

One way is to mention it. I'm 64 and recently told a group of family
members that I was rapidly approaching middle age. They all became
silent and looked at each other *meaningfully* and didn't comment on it.

I think *they're* the old ones. Sense of humor all gone. Maybe I'll buy
them all nice cardigan sweaters for X-mas.

Pastorio
Chris Malcolm - 29 Sep 2005 09:29 GMT
>> Fay, middle aged or old, how do you tell?

> One way is to mention it. I'm 64 and recently told a group of family
> members that I was rapidly approaching middle age. They all became
> silent and looked at each other *meaningfully* and didn't comment on it.

> I think *they're* the old ones. Sense of humor all gone. Maybe I'll buy
> them all nice cardigan sweaters for X-mas.

Some people are just seriously embarrassed by the idea of aging. Like
"social" diseases, it shouldn't be mentioned in polite company. When I
became old enough to get a free city bus pass I was delighted. I
showed off with it when friends or colleagues had to pay bus fares. I
was startled to discover how embarrassed most of them were. Some took
the attitude that if I was really that old I shouldn't be talking
about it. Some expressed sorrowful sympathy that I had become so
old. Some rushed with over-effusive enthusiasm to reassure me that I
certainly didn't look anything like *that* old.

The really sad ones were those who were older than me, and hadn't
bothered to claim their free bus pass because it would be an admission
of age which they felt uncomfortable about making. They preferred to
pay at least a few pounds sterling a week in bus fares rather than
reveal to other bus pasengers, some of whom might be colleagues, that
they were that old.

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Bob (this one) - 29 Sep 2005 18:29 GMT
>>>Fay, middle aged or old, how do you tell?
>
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> old. Some rushed with over-effusive enthusiasm to reassure me that I
> certainly didn't look anything like *that* old.

My new favorite comment is when the young woman in the grocery store
told me that being old - she meant my age - isn't necessarily bad. Look
how sexy Sean Connery is, she said. I said he didn't really do anything
for me. She looked confused and we talked about eggplant while she
checked out all the young men walking past. I made up stuff to tell her.
She nodded. I talked until her eyes glazed over and her attention span
ran its course, about 4 minutes. She had a so-so behind as I watched her
walk away; jiggly.

Youth is no guarantee of much, either.

> The really sad ones were those who were older than me, and hadn't
> bothered to claim their free bus pass because it would be an admission
> of age which they felt uncomfortable about making. They preferred to
> pay at least a few pounds sterling a week in bus fares rather than
> reveal to other bus pasengers, some of whom might be colleagues, that
> they were that old.

I look at it backwards. Old and alive is better than the alternative.

I truly don't get the whole embarrassment thing. I'm absolutely thrilled
to have lived well past all rational predictions would have had it back
in the 50's. It feels like I'm getting away with something.

Pastorio
 
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