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listener - 27 Sep 2005 14:46 GMT
LONDON (Reuters) - Cholesterol-lowering drugs could help to prevent
diabetics and people at high risk of heart disease from suffering a heart
attack or stroke even if their cholesterol level is not high, scientists
said on Tuesday.

Millions of patients around the world are prescribed the drugs, known as
statins, to reduce their cholesterol, but an international team of
researchers said an even bigger group of people would benefit from the
treatment.

"What we have shown is that the key thing is to find people who are at risk
of coronary heart disease or stroke and treat them with a regimen that
reduces LDL cholesterol substantially," said Dr Colin Baigent, an
epidemiologist at Britain's Medical Research Council (MRC), who co-
ordinated the study.

LDL, or bad cholesterol, deposits fat in the arteries while HDL, or good
cholesterol, carries it away.

Baigent said lowering LDL with a statin could cut the risk of a heart
attack or stroke by as much as a third.

"The size of the reduction in the risk of major vascular events -- coronary
heart disease or stroke -- is proportional to the size of the absolute
reduction in LDL cholesterol," he explained.

Pfizer's     Lipitor, Merck's Zocor and AstraZeneca's Crestor are among the
leading statins. The drugs lower cholesterol by inhibiting an enzyme that
controls how much is produced in the body.

A raised cholesterol level, along with smoking, diabetes, high blood
pressure and being overweight or obese, is a risk factor for heart disease,
one of the biggest killers in Western countries.

The researchers studied the results of 14 previous trials involving statin
treatment in 90,000 people. In addition to high-risk patients with low
cholesterol showing positive results, they said people who had the largest
reduction in their cholesterol level reaped the highest benefit.

Professor Anthony Keech, of the National Health Medical Research Council at
the University of Sydney, who co-ordinated the study team in Australia,
said the size of the cholesterol cut was important.

"So, bigger cholesterol reductions with more intensive treatment regimens
should lead to great benefits," he said in a statement.

Baigent said the scientists found no evidence of an increased risk of
cancer or that very low cholesterol levels were associated with increased
odds of suffering from other diseases.

He said higher doses of statins were associated with a raised risk of
serious muscle problems but that this was very rare.

Bayer AG's) cholesterol drug Baycol was pulled from the market in 2001
after being linked to dozens of deaths.

"When we have patients who have a very high risk of heart disease or stroke
then the size of the benefits far outweighs any risks," Baigent added.
listener - 27 Sep 2005 14:51 GMT
> LONDON (Reuters) - Cholesterol-lowering drugs could help to prevent
> diabetics and people at high risk of heart disease from suffering a
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> stroke then the size of the benefits far outweighs any risks," Baigent
> added.


Frankie - 28 Sep 2005 08:30 GMT
The Lancet:
Efficacy and safety of cholesterol-lowering treatment
Cholesterol Treatment Trialists' (CTT) Collaborator
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673605673941/abstract?i
seop=true#back-cor1


These results were derived using "Meta Analysis".
Excerpt from link below:
Meta-analysis is employed only when no large-scale, high quality
trials are available and the problems of publication bias and the
varying quality and outcomes of available studies all but guarantee
it will be impossible to draw a clear conclusion.

http://www.tufts.edu/~gdallal/meta.htm
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 29 Sep 2005 18:59 GMT
Have been cleaning out a huge basket of journals...and came across something
that dovetails into this topic...also that "defines" pleiotropic effects of
statins that was bandied about a few months ago..

This probably is not available on line...but comes to me due to my
professional licensure and accreditations

title is "Pleiotropic Effects of STatins: what role do they play?"

from the CVDigest: Clinical Management Strategies
published by Medical World Communications,,,Nov 2004

it is a 7 page interview with Dr Peter Libby MD...and is an excellent
discussion of WHAT statins do!!(Dr Libby is chief of CV med at Brigham and
Women's Hospital in Boston,,and a professor at Harvard

anyone truly interested..who doesn't live in some far off land...I would
consider faxing my copy...

just a snippet:

"Clinical trials have abundantly documented the crucial role statins pay in
preventing CV events and mortality.  However ..the overall benefit of
statins may excede that expected from a reduction in lipid levels only>
Results from multiple clinical trials suggest that some of the pleiotropic
(non low density lipoprotein(LDL) cholesterol lowering effects of statins
may include stabilizing atherosclerotic plaques, and inhibiting inflammatory
response as well as having some antioxidant properties"

snip

NOT just treating a number??

fascinating..well written and well referenced article

> LONDON (Reuters) - Cholesterol-lowering drugs could help to prevent
> diabetics and people at high risk of heart disease from suffering a heart
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> stroke
> then the size of the benefits far outweighs any risks," Baigent added.
Frankie - 29 Sep 2005 21:49 GMT
Another interesting read...
AHA Editorial dated 2002
Unraveling Pleiotropic Effects of Statins on Plaque Rupture
http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/22/11/1745

Dr Peter Libby's works are mentioned in footnote 27.
fresh~horses - 29 Sep 2005 21:57 GMT
> Another interesting read...
> AHA Editorial dated 2002
> Unraveling Pleiotropic Effects of Statins on Plaque Rupture
> http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/22/11/1745
>
> Dr Peter Libby's works are mentioned in footnote 27.

Dr. Peter Libby's works are mentioned here, too.

http://cspinet.org/cgi-bin/integrity.cgi

Peter Libby, M.D., Professor of Medicine, The Donald W. Reynolds
Cardiovascular Clinical Research Center, Brigham and Women's
Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA. Member, scientific
advisory board, AtheroGenics.
(http://www.atherogenics.com/press/pr/pr140.htm; accessed 3/17/05)

Received research support or honoraria from or was a consultant to
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals, LP, AVANT Immunotherapeutics, Bayer
Corporation, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Interleukin Genetics, Laboratoires
Pierre Fabre, Merck & Co., Millennium Pharmaceuticals, Novartis
Pharmaceuticals Corporation, Pfizer Inc., Sankyo Pharma Inc., Sanofi,
Schering-Plough Corporation, SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals, and
Volcano Therapeutics, Inc.
(http://www.medscape.com/viewprogram/3598_authors; accessed 7/28/05)

Received research support from and is a consultant to Pfizer; co-author
on the CAMELOT trial, which was sponsored by Pfizer. (JAMA.
2004;292:2217-26.) Consultant for AstraZeneca, AVANT
Immunotherapeutics, Bayer Corporation, Bristol-Myers Squibb,
Interleukin Genetics Inc., Merck, Millennium Pharmaceuticals, Novartis,
Pfizer, Pierre Fabre, Sankyo Pharma, Sanofi-Synthelabo,
Schering-Plough, and Volcano Therapeutics; participated in speakers'
bureau activities for AstraZeneca, Bayer, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Merck,
Novartis, and Pfizer; received grants and research support from
AstraZeneca, Bayer, Bristol-Myers Squibb, GlaxoSmithKline, Merck,
Millennium Pharmaceuticals, Novartis, Pfizer, and Sankyo Pharma.
(Circulation.
2003;108:2113-20.;http://www.apollolipids.org/cms/templates/bio.aspx?articleid=11&zoneid=5;
accessed 3/17/05)
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 29 Sep 2005 23:43 GMT
>> Another interesting read...
>> AHA Editorial dated 2002
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> 2003;108:2113-20.;http://www.apollolipids.org/cms/templates/bio.aspx?articleid=11&zoneid=5;
> accessed 3/17/05)
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 29 Sep 2005 23:48 GMT
and your point????

that a highly sought after specialist can have done and written some
marvelous stuff??

you are soooo pathetic

I love Robert's comment about how you could NEVER be a health care
professional with your twisted interpretations

BTW...still waiting for the "INFO" I need to know about "reproductive"
organs that secrete hormones..

oh I know..you think the pituitary and adrenals can be included...

which they cannot..because a/they are not reproductive organs at all and
b/that they do NOT secrete hormones,,but "stimulating" substances that cause
the REAL reproductive organs to secrete hormones...

thus tho the pituitary secretes FSH...without an ovary to stimulate...NO
hormone is actually produced..."stimulating" hormones...get it??

nahhhh didn't think so

maybe Steve has it tho...you consider adipose to be a reproductive organ!!!
what a dunce

>> Another interesting read...
>> AHA Editorial dated 2002
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> 2003;108:2113-20.;http://www.apollolipids.org/cms/templates/bio.aspx?articleid=11&zoneid=5;
> accessed 3/17/05)
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 29 Sep 2005 23:32 GMT
> Another interesting read...
> AHA Editorial dated 2002
> Unraveling Pleiotropic Effects of Statins on Plaque Rupture
> http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/22/11/1745
>
> Dr Peter Libby's works are mentioned in footnote 27.

thanks Frankie...looks like an interesting read

suffice it to say that this peter libby guy is wayyyy highly qualified...

used to work in Boston..when it was called "peter bent brigham"....dating
myself I know!!!
Robert - 29 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT
> "Clinical trials have abundantly documented the crucial role statins pay in
> preventing CV events and mortality.  However ..the overall benefit of
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> fascinating..well written and well referenced article

That is the part that is difficult for some people to understand. The
various drugs and supplements all work differently and sometimes people get
confused with the cholesterol number thing.
Fish oils actually make cholesterol slightly higher. Some other cholesterol
lowering drugs reduce cholesterol but do they reduce risk?
People need to be cautious about pathophysiology and supposed mechanisms of
benefit or detriment.
I think a clue to this is the benefit that statins render in a patient
during a heart or right after a heart attack that have nothing to do with
it's cholesterol lowering properties.
It is stabilizing and anti-inflammatory in nature.
 
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