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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / July 2005Re: Dietary Fat... A Long Interesting Article
"The observations described in your cited article underscore the need for the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that does not alter a person's current diet:" For a diabetic the 2 pound diet is indeed a "woe" because it ignores basic principles of energy control, nutritional content, and ignores exercise as a vital part of an overal program. For best control, a diabetic * must * be mindful of one's diet content and more often then not change it substantially as to the above factors; far indeed from the above claim made. . > "The observations described in your cited article underscore the need > for the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that does not alter a person's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > diabetic * must * be mindful of one's diet content and more often then > not change it substantially as to the above factors; For type 2 diabetes, safe permanent weight loss can not be overemphasized and without the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is nearly always underemphasized. Truth is simple. In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "For type 2 diabetes, safe permanent weight loss can not be overemphasized and without the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is nearly always underemphasized." No, the 2 pound diet is deficient in it's basic approach for a diabetic. It does not control for energy content, nutrition, and ignores exercise for it's role in controling diabetes. As much as anything the above is a strawman not addressing the point. The 2 pound diet uses a gimic for control of how much is eaten, it doesn't address the specific needs of a diabetic. Any gimic that puts a limit on amount of food eaten such as volume or time to eat will achieve the same inadequate goals for a diabetic. A diabetic should run, not walk, away from such advice as it offers. > "For type 2 diabetes, safe permanent weight loss can not be > overemphasized and without the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach is nearly > always underemphasized." > > No, the 2 pound diet is deficient in it's basic approach for a diabetic. The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you. In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." It will be very easy to show on many many of your previous web postings that you introduced and presented it as the "2 pound diet" for some years. When I and others began to show how flawed it was in terms of energy control, nutritional content and ignoring the role of exercise, and potentially dangerous in some medical disorders, then it recently became the "approach". You defended the 2 pound diet anyway but that effort was so weak and thin that a designation change was your response, but the paper tiger still has it's painted on markings by any other name. Saddest of all the flaws in your diet plan remain as always while you now tout it as not requiring any attention to calories. Your reply above thus rings hollow and the "truth" is not with you based solely on your behavior regarding the presentation of your diet plan. > "The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." > > It will be very easy to show on many many of your previous web > postings that you introduced and presented it as the "2 pound diet" > for some years. There is a guy running around with the moniker of Amazing Boll Weevil. Just as this guy is not an insect, the 2PD-OMER Approach has never been a diet. Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 >>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Just as this guy is not an insect, the 2PD-OMER Approach has never been > a diet. 1) He doesn't claim to be an insect 2) It's obviously a fanciful handle for online use 3) It's all irrelevant to your calling the 2 Pound Diet a diet You have called it a diet on many, many occasions. Why do you try to deny what's in the Google record? Pastorio > >>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You have called it a diet on many, many occasions. Why do you try to > deny what's in the Google record? Just as I have never claimed that the Amazing Boll Weevil is an insect, I have never claimed that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a diet. Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 >>>>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just as I have never claimed that the Amazing Boll Weevil is an insect, > I have never claimed that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a diet. "Try reading the instructions for my 2 pound diet sometine." "Recommendations (such as my 2 pound diet) must be given to help people fight this natural human instinct if we are to eradicate obesity." <http://tinyurl.com/bmd2z> October, 2000 --------------------- And in a thread discussing a "study" he was conducting comparing the 2 Pound Diet to other plans: "The current opinion in this thread is that all diets are the same ("short term weight loss without permanence"). So this is the working hypothesis (the null hypothesis) which should have been an easy one to disprove if untrue and should be not depend on which diet the 2 pound diet is compared to. >But not surprising, since you wish to avoid having to admit that you >are wrong. This is a more-or-less > universal problem with MDs -- I >think they teach that attitude in med > school. I don't have a problem saying I am wrong, if I am. <http://tinyurl.com/dkkhs> ---------------------- But watch. Anyone want to bet that Chung will parse this and say that the thread occurred before it was called the "2PD-OMER Approach" and is therefore void? Nothing changed but the name. The name is no more the thing than a map is the territory. > Truth is simple: Perhaps. But your lies definitely are. Pastorio "Bob (this one)" wrote after changing the subject line to garner back those who have killfiled this thread so that he might have a larger readership: > >>>>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > obesity." > <http://tinyurl.com/bmd2z> October, 2000 From the cited thread: "The goal here is a *permanent* lifestyle change." - Andrew Chung "Having read 20 or so posts in this thread in one sitting, I strongly suspect that those continuing to argue are desperately defending some sort of sacred (to them) concept rather than looking at the idea dispassionately. Maybe they simply don't want to admit that they eat too much." - txxxxxx@cheerful.com That's you, dear Bob "Food is Sacred" Pastorio... ... someone who is "continuing to argue" **5 years later** "desperately defending some sort of sacred (to them) concept rather than looking at the idea dispassionatedly." Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > "Bob (this one)" wrote after changing the subject line to garner back > those who have killfiled this thread so that he might have a larger > readership: Chung has a new macro, just as true as all the others, unfortunately for his credibility. >>>>>>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > "The goal here is a *permanent* lifestyle change." - Andrew Chung And yet, you call it a diet. > "Having read 20 or so posts in this thread in one sitting, I strongly > suspect that those continuing to argue are desperately defending some [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's you, dear Bob "Food is Sacred" Pastorio... Call me all the stupid names you want, Chung. The *fact* is that your diet (which you called a diet) is ill-conceived, wrongly derived (Everest climbers, indeed), poorly defined and badly directed. It's not food that's sacred, it's rationality. > ... someone who is "continuing to argue" **5 years later** "desperately > defending some sort of sacred (to them) concept rather than looking at > the idea dispassionatedly." I defend reason, sound nutritional principles, fullness of explanation and real-world utility for maintaining as far as possible the safe conduct of our lives. The "2 pound diet" idea is a silly diet that takes no deep consideration. Using a false criterion for human nutrition is still using a false criterion. Beyond that, the details are too vague to be useful: "Common sense" and "balanced diet" with never a definition of them that has any utility. When Chung says people should eat a balanced diet, he offers bullshit like it's any food blessed by God, as though that would appear on the label. When asked what people in undeveloped countries should eat, he says to pray for daily bread. "Common sense" means nothing in the context because it really means "according to good nutritional principles" which he obviously doesn't know how to elucidate, if he knows any at all. And beyond all that, it's a diet. It was begun as a diet,. It was called a diet from its inception. It was presented in that fake study as a diet. It has continued to be called the 2 pound diet and it fulfills all the criteria for such definition. It's Chung's insanity that forces him to try to make a big deal from a small, flawed idea for a diet. Which you called a diet. You named it "diet." Pastorio "Bob (this one)" wrote after again changing the subject line to garner back those who have killfiled this thread so that he might have a larger readership: > > "Bob (this one)" wrote after changing the subject line to garner back > > those who have killfiled this thread so that he might have a larger > > readership: > > Chung has a new macro, just as true as all the others, unfortunately for > his credibility. Sorry the truth continues to bother you. > >>>>>>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." > >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >>>> > >>>>1) He doesn't claim to be an insect The 2PD-OMER Approach has not claimed to be a diet. > >>>>2) It's obviously a fanciful handle for online use Diet is a fanciful word that helps people understand the purpose of the 2PD-OMER Approach even if they do not understand the concept of "way of eating." > >>>>3) It's all irrelevant to your calling the 2 Pound Diet a diet The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > "Bob (this one)" wrote after again changing the subject line to garner > back those who have killfiled this thread so that he might have a larger [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sorry the truth continues to bother you. There was great laughter and merriment abroad in the land as Chung again shows his sere wit. What a singularly clownish display... >>>>>>>>"The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. Sorry, the truth eludes you." >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 2PD-OMER Approach even if they do not understand the concept of "way of > eating." Because "way of eating" is such a complex idea. And if you think that's bad, "How one eats" is way beyond most people. "The regimen which one routinely employs" is even worse and requires at least 6th grade literacy skills. A diet is a diet and Chung's bizarre 2 pound misunderstanding is a diet. He has said so. All these weasel-words don't change the reality. But it does go to his "love" for everyone. It's the same mentality that said it was OK to lie to obese people about calories, presumably because they're inherently flawed, either by character or intelligence. So this "humble" man treats others as inferior and unworthy of clear, factual information. Feel the "love..." Feel the "respect..." Pastorio Here is what andrew is banking on, when he used the 2 pound label he also said approach. What he is trying to sell is that he isn't pushing a diet but something different. O obfuscation so sweet, a crude dodge so obvious., a paper tiger marked differently the same smell.. In the many many posts to him to which he replied there was no "correction" about "2 pound diet" and is only now a face saving bit of truth distortion and face saving. > Here is what andrew is banking on, when he used the 2 pound label he > also said approach. What he is trying to sell is that he isn't pushing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > about "2 pound diet" and is only now a face saving bit of truth > distortion and face saving. But the utterly needless dancing around the simple truth is one of the startling things. What earthly difference can it make to call it a diet? Particularly since it fulfills all the definitional ingredients of the word "diet." And this 625,500 people with no failures business is beyond incredible; beyond just unbelievable. Knowing anything at all about human nature says that it's simply impossible. It's like saying the whole population of Baton Rouge, Louisiana or the whole nation of Bahrain or everybody in Alaska started the diet more than 5 years ago and not one has stopped or not achieved their goals in all that time. Not one has died. Not one has taken some medication that caused them to gain weight. Not one has decided that they didn't like the fact that they kept losing weight even after they didn't want to any more and *had* to eat more. Not one bodybuilder needed more food to help generate more muscle mass. Not one failure, he says. And no one noticed the huge run on food scales. And no notice in any media, professional organizations or medical groups. And these bizarre evasions - a balanced diet is one where God blesses the food - after saying that people should eat a balanced diet. No clue about how to achieve this balance. Non-information of the most self-defeating order. An omer is a unit of weight for Chung and no one else - not one other source says that. And an omer is exactly the correct amount of food based on Exodus - when the Israelites also ate other things. It's all too peculiar. One or two such things can be attributed to eccentricity. When it becomes a constant pattern and extends back to his Ocala firing days when his intransigence was a part of it, it's now symptomatic of a greater condition, but not one that carries good news. His constant self-promotion in the face of his hyperreligiosity that he used to say made him into a humble man is the sort of basic contradiction that logically leads to disbelief of what he posts. He will harm people if he continues on these paths. And his family will be the ones to suffer most when the reckoning of those people comes due. It's a sad, sad thing. Pastorio > He will harm people if he continues on these paths. And his family will > be the ones to suffer most when the reckoning of those people comes due. > It's a sad, sad thing. > > Pastorio His mother suffers now, Bob. All that money for medical school down the toilet. She had such hopes for his future, now she only has despair. The fruit of her womb has become a reviled, mentally ill net kook. Vicki > Here is what andrew is banking on, No banks are involved in the 2PD-OMER Approach. > when he used the 2 pound label he > also said approach. 2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach. Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach." Still the word games. Examples were posted showing you using the 2 pound diet label and now to reconcile the contridiction you invent this, the false face is being peeled away to show the contrast of what lies beneath with truth and character displayed in behavior. The 2 pound diet is a potential danger to diabetics for it's inherent flaws of energy contro, nutrition, and absense of coordination with exercise. It is a gimic to limit calorie intake, as would be the same with gimics using volume or time to do same. It remains my choice to peel away false faces so others may decide upon truth. > "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach." > > Still the word games. An acronym is not a word game. Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "> "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach." > Still the word games. An acronym is not a word game." Still the word games, is maintaining the false face so really important to you? Ask God to remove that vanity. You were shown to have used "diet' and later denied it and we now see this silly even childish dancing about on the hot griddle of thruth. Your diet can be dangerous to a diabetic for it's basic flaws. So as we peel away the false face we also protect the diabetic. " > "> "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach." > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Still the word games, is maintaining the false face so really important > to you? "Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit have died to self." Truth remains simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 >>"2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction Approach." >> >>Still the word games. > > An acronym is not a word game. A word game is a word game, though. Re-naming the diet to include a mistaken and deliberately obtuse "acronym" is a word game. It's to introduce a spurious biblical connection to an already mistaken and spurious concept. These conditions define word games. As opposed to serious, honest consideration. And word games in this context includes the built-in idea of fakery and deliberate deception, and it's denial compounds it. One might defensibly say fraud. Pastorio "There is a guy running around with the moniker of Amazing Boll Weevil. Just as this guy is not an insect, the 2PD-OMER Approach has never been a diet. Truth is simple:" I have observed you skirt central truth by playing on the variation of the use of words. "Diet" can mean in common usage either a food tradition or a plan by which to control intake to achieve some health goal. You presented the 2 pound diet as the latter and you can not now try to get out of that truth. As said, a simple web search will reveal the truth in many of your posts. Call it what you may, but it still is a potential danger to a diabetic because of it's flaws in calorie control, nutritional content, not corrinating with exercise. It is a gimic that controls in a very crude way amount of calories eaten, just as would an "approach" based on volume and time constrints. Truth is simple, and corrupting obfuscation and face saving is not in it. > "There is a guy running around with the moniker of Amazing Boll Weevil. > Just as this guy is not an insect, the 2PD-OMER Approach has never been [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have observed you skirt central truth by playing on the variation of > the use of words. It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully. This is not a game: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "> I have observed you skirt central truth by playing on the variation of > the use of words. It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully. This is not a game:" Not a game indeed, but a silly attempt at face saving, which is in itself a form of avoiding the truth. It remains my choice to show how such deceit is used, others may then decide upon truth. You cling by your fingertips on the narrow meaning you give to words as the attachment points of a false face. It remains my choice to peel them away so truth can be seen in contrast to what lies underneath. > "> I have observed you skirt central truth by playing on the variation > of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Not a game indeed, but a silly attempt at face saving, which is in > itself a form of avoiding the truth. "Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit have died to self." Truth is simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 "> Not a game indeed, but a silly attempt at face saving, which is in > itself a form of avoiding the truth. "Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit have died to self." Truth is simple:" Typical side step, so obvious in the face of truth, avoiding it still. The result of baptism doesn't remove the sin commited afterward, that is truth. It doesn't cover what is done to decieve and hide and cries out in the plain sight of a false face; which we ar are in the process of peeling away one false attachment at atime. Ee are warned about those immersed in the "vanity of their own minds' and those where the "truth is not in them". God will not be mocked. > "> Not a game indeed, but a silly attempt at face saving, which is in > > itself a form of avoiding the truth. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Typical side step, so obvious in the face of truth, avoiding it still. "Suppose there was a man born blind who had never seen the light of day. After coveting the vision of the seeing, does this man not end up living in darkness, because in the darkness he surpasses the seeing in ability to navigate around in his surroundings? And when he happens upon the seeing who are lost in the darkness, he will happily declare that vision does not exist in his world. In the same way, those who are unable to discern the truth would declare their victory over those who can." Truth remains simple: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A The way to the truth is straight and narrow: http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5: 11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy name. May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom. Here's how: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2 arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the 2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His presence known here on Usenet :-) Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16 oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what "omer" literally means in Hebrew. Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS) thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-) http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet others who have been using this WOE here: http://www.TheHealthFair.com You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally from the 2PD-OMER Approach): http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 |
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