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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / June 2005Went to the Doctor yesterday
Finally went to the doctor yesterday. Got an EKG, doctor took my blood pressure (120/80). He wants me to come back next week or an Echo and a Holter monitor. Then the week after for a stress test. So far no answers as to what caused the papitations. Are these 3 tests really necessary? Should I ask him anything? (I am relying on your experience to know what questions to ask, since I do not know enough) Thanks > Finally went to the doctor yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Are these 3 tests really necessary? A second opinion from me would require that I take your complete history and examine you. > Should I ask him anything? (I am relying on your experience to know > what questions to ask, since I do not know enough) > > Thanks You are welcome. All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I serve with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > Finally went to the doctor yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks Yes, those tests are necessary. Repost after the doctor has told you the results of the tests. Jason  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. >>Finally went to the doctor yesterday. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > has told you the results of the tests. > Jason How do you know that those test are necessary? What training do you have to give such advice? SignatureDavid Rind drind@caregroup.harvard.edu >>>Finally went to the doctor yesterday. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >How do you know that those test are necessary? What training do you have >to give such advice? I believe he must have graduated from medical school since he last wrote "I am not a doctor". He does have a medical book beside his computer, however:) Does that count? > >>Finally went to the doctor yesterday. > >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > How do you know that those test are necessary? What training do you have > to give such advice? David, I try to remind people that I am not a doctor or medical expert but I forgot--sorry. I based my post on common sense and what I learned from a book related to heart disease that I read last week. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > Finally went to the doctor yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks Trust your Dr. rather than anyone here. He knows you much better. Look at it this way. Are you willing to take the chance that they are unnecessary? He is just attempting to rule out some things. Even then the tests won't be 100%. Bill > > Finally went to the doctor yesterday. > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Bill Bill, Great post. Much better than my post. Keep up the great work. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. I'll rewrite my history. Have MVP, no backwash. Never had palpititions, but 2 weeks ago, had it for 4 days (Wed-Sat.) My diet and sleep has never changed, I avoid caffeine. Made an appointment with a cardiologist last week. Gave me an EKG, said everything looked fine. Told me to come back this week for Echo and a Holter Monitor for 24 hours. Next week for a Stress test (threadmill) Told me not to work out until we get the results back. I asked the cardiologist 'What if I dont get palpitations during the 24 hours when I have the holter?" - he said "Does not matter, I can still see whats happening even without palpitations" - is this true? Called my Primary Care Physician to update him. He told me that he felt the stress test is overkill. He does not think I need it. He also thinks I should get an Event monitor instead of a Holter Monitor. My primiary care physician said since I never had palpitations before, the chance of it happening during those 24 hours is slim, but with an event monitor I have 30 days. He also said that I can workout now. So the advice seems to be pretty opposite between my two doctors, which should I listen to? What do you guys think of the advice from each of them? (I know you cannot give a real diagnosis over the net, dont worry, I just want your opinion, you will not be liable for anything) Thanks > I'll rewrite my history. > Have MVP, no backwash. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Thanks You may want to read up on Palpitations http://www.medicinenet.com/palpitations/article.htm MVP can lead to that. All 4 tests you mention are sometimes done. The event monitor sometimes after the Holter. Bill > > I'll rewrite my history. > > Have MVP, no backwash. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Bill Bill, Great post--keep up the great work. Jason SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > I'll rewrite my history. > Have MVP, no backwash. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > cannot give a real diagnosis over the net, dont worry, I just want your > opinion, you will not be liable for anything) A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, there is a leak coming from under the kitchen sink. The plumber is called and the plumber recommends changing the polybutylene to copper water pipes. The builder says this is not necessary. Who should the man believe? > Thanks You are welcome. All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-) In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > > I'll rewrite my history. > > Have MVP, no backwash. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Who should the man believe? <<snip>> Whichever is most competent. -elgoog > snip> > A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Who should the man believe? "The Plumber" >>Thanks Your welcome S > > snip> > > A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > S Unless, the plumber is self-interested and seeking to deceive the home owner for his own lucre and the builder is wise and has dealt with many plumbers and knows the truth of the man's character. There is always that. OTOH, you should definitely choose the man/woman that is right. -elgoog >>>snip> >>>A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > There is always that. That would be an assumption. > OTOH, you should definitely choose the man/woman that is right. > > -elgoog He should believe the Plumber because: 1. The job done by the builder failed. 2. The builder is not a Plumber. 3. Household "Water pipe" should be of non ferrous metal, ie. copper. S > >>>snip> > >>>A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > S Would suggest you ignore folks like elgoof, Don Kirkman, Jeff Utz, et al who have chosen to oppose the truth. In Christ's love and service, Andrew -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist ** Suggested Reading: (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > >>>snip> > >>>A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > 1. The job done by the builder failed. That is an assumption. Maybe the plumber was contracted by the builder. Most builders are contractors and have plumbers come in to do the plumbing. > 2. The builder is not a Plumber. That is an assumption. The builder may or may not have been a plumber. Either way, the plumbing was likely done to building code by a contracted plumber. I am not saying that one should believe the builder over the plumber, one must choose which is right. I've known a few plumbers that if they told me the sun would rise in the morning, I couldn't trust them. And, I've known a few builders that if they told me the sun would set in the evening, I'd still have to go outside and check. > 3. Household "Water pipe" should be of non ferrous metal, ie. copper. Correct. :-) > S You're funny. ;-) >>>>>snip> >>>>>A man purchases a new home from a builder but two weeks after moving in, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > That is an assumption. Not really, "there is a leak coming from under the kitchen sink" Maybe the plumber was contracted by the builder. > Most builders are contractors and have plumbers come in to do the > plumbing. I agree, that *a* plumber was contracted to do the initial work, but not *this* plumber. >>2. The builder is not a Plumber. > > That is an assumption. Not really, if the builder was a plumber he would have carried out the repair himself, no need for someone to call a plumber. The builder may or may not have been a plumber. > Either way, the plumbing was likely done to building code by a > contracted plumber. I would thinks so to, but, as they are describing a "water pipe" and not a drain pipe and with limited information, one could assume with confidence that it should have been done with copper pipe. Here's an assumption, maybe the work was done initially by one of those plumbers you describe below. > I am not saying that one should believe the builder over the plumber, > one must choose which is right. I've known a few plumbers that if they > told me the sun would rise in the morning, I couldn't trust them. And, > I've known a few builders that if they told me the sun would set in the > evening, I'd still have to go outside and check. Yep, I know what you are saying. >>3. Household "Water pipe" should be of non ferrous metal, ie. copper. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You're funny. ;-) Who called the plumber? S >I'll rewrite my history. >Have MVP, no backwash. >Never had palpititions, but 2 weeks ago, had it for 4 days (Wed-Sat.) >My diet and sleep has never changed, I avoid caffeine. as a patient i would folow the advice of the cardiologist. If you do not trust his advice you went to the wrong guy... There is not so much room for mistakes if it concerns your heart :) I know several people who dropped dead during work outs...Did they know that something might be wrong ? I think so...Most of the time your body gives the signals...only fools ignore them. gr gr > I'll rewrite my history. > Have MVP, no backwash. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Thanks Okay, think what you are really asking here. You have seen two doctors who actually met you, talked to you, examined you, and saw the results of tests performed on you, and came up with differing advice. Now you are looking for a useful opinion on which one gave you better advice from people who have not met you, talked to you, examined you, or seen the results of tests. From what you have written above, I could imagine agreeing with either the primary care doctor or the cardiologist based on specific aspects of things that would never be well conveyed in a post on Usenet. Forget about "liability" -- this is just not a good place to find an answer to this sort of question. SignatureDavid Rind drind@caregroup.harvard.edu |
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