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What are "Distant Heart Sounds"?

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James E. - 29 May 2005 15:32 GMT
What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it shows
up in his written report.

I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
about?

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James

Don Kirkman - 29 May 2005 21:29 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that James E. wrote in article
<Vnkme.9839$h86.8035@tornado.socal.rr.com>:

>What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
>My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it shows
>up in his written report.

>I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
>about?

I found many Google hits on "distant heart sounds" relating to diagnosis
of certain conditions, but never found an exact definition.  If nobody
offers a clear definition you may get some idea of the meaning from a
Google search.
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Don Kirkman

James E. - 29 May 2005 21:49 GMT
Thanks, Don

Actually, I posted here because I could not find a definition on Google or
anywhere else. There seems to be such a thing, but nobody bothers to define
it.

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> It seems to me I heard somewhere that James E. wrote in article
> <Vnkme.9839$h86.8035@tornado.socal.rr.com>:
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> offers a clear definition you may get some idea of the meaning from a
> Google search.
Don Baker - 29 May 2005 22:40 GMT
Try these definitions:

http://www.hypertension-consult.com/Secure/textbookarticles/Textbook/59_pericard
ial.htm

(defined as overly subjective)

http://www.geronurseonline.org/index.cfm?section_id=31&geriatric_topic_id=11&sub
_section_id=76&tab=1

(from a nursing text)

The phrase is very subject "like describing red".  You will need to know
what your doctor meant.

Don

> Thanks, Don
>
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> > offers a clear definition you may get some idea of the meaning from a
> > Google search.
menu boy - 29 May 2005 22:03 GMT
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that James E. wrote in article
> <Vnkme.9839$h86.8035@tornado.socal.rr.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> offers a clear definition you may get some idea of the meaning from a
> Google search.

Ask a cardio dr.  It *could* mean HF, but could also mean a lot of other
diseases, conditions or reactions.
hawki63 - 30 May 2005 17:48 GMT
> > It seems to me I heard somewhere that James E. wrote in article
> > <Vnkme.9839$h86.8035@tornado.socal.rr.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > >I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
> > >about?

in my experience and training.."distant heart sounds" merely means the
sounds seem "far away from one's sthescope"....ie...can be in an overweight
person..and one with  a "barrel type chest" like seen in COPD...or in
someone with a chest wall anonmaly (sp?)....

in most folks the heart is very close to the chest wall,,,and the sounds are
thus distinct and easy to hear...

distance implies just that...the heart is farther away from the rib cage and
chest wall,,,thus the sounds sound muffled and less distinct...

if that is the only unusual finding..probably either just you..or the doc is
not too adept at listening for heart sounds at the appropriate
places!!(happens!!)

hope that helps...personally I wouldn't assume it is anything bad

good luck
> > I found many Google hits on "distant heart sounds" relating to diagnosis
> > of certain conditions, but never found an exact definition.  If nobody
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> Ask a cardio dr.  It *could* mean HF, but could also mean a lot of other
> diseases, conditions or reactions.
James E. - 30 May 2005 18:23 GMT
Thank you. Have a great weekend.

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James

>> "Don Kirkman" <donkirk@covad.net> wrote in message
> news:so3k919f79mmc0f72br7kfm905lbniau79@4ax.com...
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>> Ask a cardio dr.  It *could* mean HF, but could also mean a lot of other
>> diseases, conditions or reactions.
Jim Chinnis - 30 May 2005 19:11 GMT
"James E." <wer25@example.com> wrote in part:

>What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
>My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it shows
>up in his written report.
>
>I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
>about?

Did he really write, "distant?" Or was it "distal?" Most docs
would write distal, probably to indicate sounds beyond the
heart--maybe from the pulmonary arteries. (I am not a physician.)

If he wrote "distant," he probably meant exactly what hawki said.
--
Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
David Rind - 30 May 2005 20:44 GMT
> What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
> My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it shows
> up in his written report.
>
> I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
> about?

"Distant heart sounds" is doctorspeak for "I couldn't hear the heart
sounds very well and I think that was because the heart is far away from
my stethoscope." Typically the reason for this is obvious -- either the
patient is overweight or has an expanded chest because of lung disease
such that either fat or air has created distance between the heart and
the surface of the chest. In any case, it is not a comment that implies
any sort of heart problem.

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David Rind
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 31 May 2005 04:13 GMT
> What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
> My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it shows
> up in his written report.
>
> I can't get hold of my doctor to explain this to me. Something new to worry
> about?

If this is a **new** finding in someone with a history of cancer, there
would be a concern that there might be the **new** development of
increased fluid around the heart (pericardial effusion).  Would suggest
you ask for a referral to consult with a cardiologist about this if
indeed it is a **new** finding.

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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David Rind - 31 May 2005 12:24 GMT
> If this is a **new** finding in someone with a history of cancer, there
> would be a concern that there might be the **new** development of
> increased fluid around the heart (pericardial effusion).  Would suggest
> you ask for a referral to consult with a cardiologist about this if
> indeed it is a **new** finding.

If the doctor had actually been worried about that, he or she would have
written "muffled heart sounds" (yet more doctorspeak for "I didn't hear
the heart very well and I'm worried it was because of a pericardial
effusion"). Suggesting that a comment like "distant heart sounds" (that
is written by doctors all the time without any negative implication) is
an indication for a referral to a cardiologist is just worrying the OP
for no reason.

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David Rind
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James E. - 31 May 2005 20:29 GMT
Thank you all very much for your input. I greatly appreciate your concern.

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James

> What are "distant heart sounds" when noticed during a physical for cancer?
> My hematologist did not mention it to me when he did a physical but it
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> worry
> about?
 
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