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outrider - 27 May 2005 21:40 GMT
"Association does not imply causality," says Andrew McCullough,
director of sexual health and male infertility at New York University
Medical Center. "That's why you do placebo-controlled trials." He says
blaming vision loss on Viagra is a lot like previous assertions that
the drug caused heart attacks. It was not Viagra, he argues, but the
exertion of sexual activity."

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=8630605

http://www.forbes.com/business/2005/05/27/cx_mh_0527viagra.html

No causality. Take the drug by all means, but as a safety precaution
don't have sex.

Oh, about the vision loss....rare, very rare.

Zee
Jim Chinnis - 27 May 2005 22:22 GMT
"outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:

>Oh, about the vision loss....rare, very rare.

Maybe those men used Viagra for masturbation.
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Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
outrider - 27 May 2005 23:06 GMT
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> Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Masturbation is still sex.

The excuses are appalling. Will the men who use these drugs be as ready
to make them as Pfizer?

Zee
Paul E. Lehmann - 28 May 2005 02:23 GMT
>> "outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:
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> Masturbation is still sex.

Damn good thing or else I would have no sex at all.

> The excuses are appalling. Will the men who use these drugs be as ready
> to make them as Pfizer?
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> Zee
Susan - 27 May 2005 23:16 GMT
> "outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:
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> Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA

ROFL!  That was my first thought when I saw the headline.

SMTA.  ;-)

Susan
listener - 27 May 2005 23:35 GMT
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> Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Worse yet, the stock market went limp after hearing the news....

L.
Susan - 27 May 2005 23:36 GMT
>>"outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:
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 I  thought that was due to  low inflation...

Susan
Paul E. Lehmann - 28 May 2005 02:22 GMT
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Well, the Kotex business in in the Red and the Rubber business is in the
hole so what do you expect.
William Wagner - 28 May 2005 00:00 GMT
> > "outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:
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> L.

The stock market is an excellent tool to understand consensual  
agreement.

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=pfe&time
=5&freq=1

Bill

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Juhana Harju - 30 May 2005 09:25 GMT
:: Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in
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::: Maybe those men used Viagra for masturbation.

:: Worse yet, the stock market went limp after hearing the news....

Something should be used to erect the stock price.

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Paul E. Lehmann - 28 May 2005 02:20 GMT
> "outrider" <outrider@despammed.com> wrote in part:
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> Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Oh my God, I am going to go blind.
Juhana Harju - 30 May 2005 09:28 GMT
:: Oh, about the vision loss....rare, very rare.

Perhaps Viagra has caused vision lost to Pfizer as well.

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