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ken - 17 Feb 2005 15:33 GMT
I started taking 50mg altenolol and 20 mg benicar at Night..
Is there anyway that these could be causing my body to feel cold. Pulse rate
around 53.

thank you, Ken
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2005 16:27 GMT
> I started taking 50mg altenolol and 20 mg benicar at Night..
> Is there anyway that these could be causing my body to feel cold.

It is possible.  The atenolol is more likely than the Benicar for
causing the side effect you are describing.

> Pulse rate
> around 53.

Your heart rate is a bit too slow (probably because of being on too much
atenolol).  

Would suggest you ask your doctor about either decreasing the atenolol
or switching you to something else.

> thank you, Ken

You are welcome.

All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength :-)


At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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menu boy - 17 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT
> I started taking 50mg altenolol and 20 mg benicar at Night..
> Is there anyway that these could be causing my body to feel cold. Pulse rate
> around 53.
>
> thank you, Ken

There are no doctors in this NG.  Just quacks.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Feb 2005 18:09 GMT
In truth, you only know yourself.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the spectacular riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > I started taking 50mg altenolol and 20 mg benicar at Night..
> > Is there anyway that these could be causing my body to feel cold. Pulse rate
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> There are no doctors in this NG.  Just quacks.
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 18 Feb 2005 03:33 GMT
If we attack a man's professional integrity because of his faith it
would say volumes about our own depth of unresolved sin. Belief in God
does not impede one's skill, it can only enhance it as instead of the
man believing he's God, he certainly knows he is not. All glory can be
given to God all troubles can too, and the mere man can got on with his
work unhindered. This applies to cooks as well as surgeons.

In Christ's love
Carol T
Bob (this one) - 18 Feb 2005 04:34 GMT
> If we attack a man's professional integrity because of his faith it
>  would say volumes about our own depth of unresolved sin.

How about when we attack him for his deceits, his meanspiritedness,
his insolent spirit, his smug sense of superiority and his deliberate
efforts to hurt? Then can we tell him to bite a large one? How about
if his beliefs are irrelevant? But his actions aren't? How about if he
didn't have you cheering him on to yet greater ugliness all because
you both mouth these pious froths and think you're kindred?

> Belief in God does not impede one's skill, it can only enhance it
> as instead of the man believing he's God, he certainly knows he is
> not. All glory can be given to God all troubles can too, and the
> mere man can got on with his work unhindered. This applies to cooks
> as well as surgeons.

Get f.cked, Carol.

And I mean that in the nicest possible place.

Chung gets attacked for his fakery and his malice. You get attacked
for your utter inability to connect with people in your nutso robotic
schizoid ravings. Prattle that consists of words that separately hold
meaning, but joined only hold your egotism. Who can you possibly
believe you are to lecture others? If only the sinless can cast
aspersions, are you so perfect that you can hold your incoherent
"wisdom" to others to tell them how to live? Clear answer...

Peddle your unintelligent crap elsewhere.

Bob
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 05:27 GMT
Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Thusly, Carol, will be blessed in the same manner as His prophets.

May God add His blessings to the application of His Word here on Usenet,
in Christ's holy name.

Amen.

Please know that you will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love,
in Lord Christ's holy name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the wonderful riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > If we attack a man's professional integrity because of his faith it
> >  would say volumes about our own depth of unresolved sin.
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>
> Bob
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 18 Feb 2005 13:07 GMT
Dear Bob,

What is a matter with you that you are so focused on others and not the
face we see of you?

You do not have to take Andrew as your doctor, there are many thousands
more in the world. I must admit that I have never witnessed a post
which has attacked your skills either in such a way, despite the
apparent anger you carry in your heart.

We can all chose our skilled men to do their work as they have been
trained, I believe that America is a free country.

It would be wrong of us to have a negative emotion for others (i.e.
envy) and apply this emotion to an attack on their faith, as all faiths
are full of people from all walks of life. Hence, the wrongful emotion
is turned on those who are simply your neighbours, some of who have
never had the opportunities to experience a blessed life as you have.
It becomes and illogical act.

We all fall short of God's glory Bob......all of us.

I have never doubted that you are a wonderful cook, I know no different
and you certainly have an enthusiasm for what you do which is quite
refreshing to read at times. Having grown up in a family of bakers and
cooks I know how your skills can be central to a great celebration, but
never more than Christ.

Remember couples are married before The Lord, children are christened,
funerals directed, community projects are blessed, charity monies
collected. He is to millions of people their saviour, guide, comforter
and much, much more. They call He comes, we cannot, not even Andrew
unless the Holy Spirit guides us to a specific task. We are all part of
His body each with our own function.

I tell you this now, the chef served His food to Christ, the doctor
couldn't treat His wounds, but neither the doctor or chef saved Christ
from His death on the cross.

You will always have the freewill to leave Him a seat at the head of
your tables.

In Christ's love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 13:11 GMT
> Dear Bob,
>
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> In Christ's love
> Carol T

Not just Bob Pastorio, but may all who read this open their eyes and
see, in Christ's holy name.


At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Dimitri - 18 Feb 2005 14:21 GMT
Godless cross-poster;

Get down on your knees and beg forgiveness from those you offend and
misinform!

Dimitri
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 15:32 GMT
Again, sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the limitlessly interesting riches of
His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> Godless cross-poster;
>
> Get down on your knees and beg forgiveness from those you offend and
> misinform!
>
> Dimitri
Vilco - 18 Feb 2005 15:57 GMT
Mi e' parso che Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD abbia scritto:

> Again, sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.

Your religion is not a problem: your SPAM is.
Signature

 Vilco
Think Pink , Drink Rose'

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 16:48 GMT
Sorry this bothers you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> Mi e' parso che Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD abbia scritto:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>   Vilco
> Think Pink , Drink Rose'
Dimitri - 18 Feb 2005 18:23 GMT
> Again, sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.
>
> You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
> name.

I think you need to look inside your self.  I hope you have heard of the 7
deadly sins.

Here's one you should examine carefully:

Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the
individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin
from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Dimitri
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 18:55 GMT
Here is what I see upon introspection:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > Again, sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Dimitri
Dimitri - 18 Feb 2005 19:11 GMT
> Here is what I see upon introspection:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A
>
> You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
> name.

Pride

The Reservoir of All Sin

"The Devil, the proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked." - St. Thomas
More, 16th Century
"God is stern in dealing with the arrogant, but to the humble He shows
kindness." - Proverbs 3:34
"Hatred of God comes from pride. It is contrary to the love of God ..." -
The Catechism of the Catholic Church, #2094
Overweening pride, arrogance, haughtiness: these have been the stuff of
tragedy. Vanity, fussiness, delicacy: the stuff of comedy. These are all
forms of self-delusion, and paper-thin masks over rotting features. Pride
and vanity refuse the truth about who we are and substitute illusions for
reality. While vanity is mostly concerned with appearance, pride is based in
a real desire to be God, at least in one's own circle.
The first requirement of pride is spiritual blindness. Any glimpse of God
reveals our frailty and sinfulness, just as a well-lit bathroom mirror shows
the flaws in our complexion. Like Oedipus, we are driven to gouge out our
eyes at the sight of our wretchedness and wander away from our heavenly
home, with no purpose or direction. Unlike Oedipus, we build up myriad
illusions about who we are and what we are about. We can busy ourselves with
career, family and even church work, thinking we are being driven by a
strong work ethic, moral values or the fire of the Holy Spirit. In reality,
we may be running away from God by running away from ourselves. Nearly
everyone else can see that we are putting on a show, but not us. Our
coworkers may hate us (they are just jealous), our children may
self-destruct or leave us (they are ungrateful), and we may never truly pray
but merely stand in the presence of a god we have created, but we still
refuse to see.
A second requirement of pride, indeed a symptom, is that each challenge to
our pride drives us harder to improve our illusion of productivity, sanctity
or compassion. It has been said that the definition of a zealot is "one who
has lost sight of his goal, and so redoubles his efforts." We might say the
zealot works twice as hard to keep up appearances.
When we hear sermons about pride, or read this text, we may be tempted to
think of all the people we know who really need to read it. We need to read
it. Pride is about us, and we would love to retain our illusions by pointing
to others, saying: "But they are very proud. I really don't think I'm that
great, but they do."
The best pride detector is this: how much are we bothered by the pride of
others? And if we feel attacked, is our response: "other people are worse."
A strong indicator of pride is competitiveness. There is nothing wrong with
playing to win, provided the joy is in the playing. If our happiness depends
on defeating others or knowing our child is the star of the team, we are
building a world of illusion.
At death, all illusions are stripped away. God's judgment will not take into
account our bank balance, how much we own, how smart our children are or how
much self-esteem we have. All that will matter is whether He recognizes us
(Matthew 25:12).
There are three ways to destroy Pride, and they must all be taken together:
1) Be grateful to anyone and everyone. Treat even the things people are
expected to do as great gifts. Be grateful for your food, your change at
Burger King, rain, life itself. Thank everyone.
2) Beg forgiveness of God for the sin of Pride. Go before Him in prayer
every day or every few hours and implore His mercy. The more this offends
you, the more Pride you have.
3) Ask God for a spirit of Humility and Gratitude. Read Philippians 2:3-11
and imitate it. Understand that without God's Grace, we will never cast away
our illusions. Ask God to break your pride and vanity using whatever it
takes: illness, loss of friends, loss of family, public humiliation. This is
unbelievably difficult to request, and every fiber of our being fights it.
We protest it is not fair, or "God doesn't work that way." My friend, what
good is health, friends, family, a good reputation, if you have no real love
for God, but only a hollow illusion? In the end, all but true love for God
is lost, so count all else but God as loss now.
For continued reading, the following are a few good books:
"Mere Christianity," by C.S. Lewis
"New Seeds of Contemplation," by Thomas Merton
"The Cost of Discipleship," by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 19:39 GMT
It seems that you are obsessed with that which compells you to
automatically judge what you observe.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging others based on what I
observe.

Lord Christ can teach you how if you choose to walk with Him:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > Here is what I see upon introspection:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
> "New Seeds of Contemplation," by Thomas Merton
> "The Cost of Discipleship," by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Dimitri - 18 Feb 2005 20:28 GMT
> It seems that you are obsessed with that which compells you to
> automatically judge what you observe.
St Paul Said"

Step 2 - Forgive
Another aspect of drawing closer to God involves forgiveness. Failure to
forgive our enemies will result in our not being forgiven; "Forgive us our
trespasses (sins) as we forgive those who trespass (sin) against us". In the
Lords Prayer, we are asking God to be as forgiving to us as we are to
others. If we do not forgive our brothers, how can we expect God to forgive
us? "If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will
forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not
forgive your sins." (Matthew 6:14,15). And again in Mark 11:25, "But when
you are praying, first forgive anyone you are holding a grudge against, so
that your Father in heaven will forgive your sins, too". And once more in
Luke 6:37, "Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. Stop
criticizing others, or it will all come back on you. If you forgive others,
you will be forgiven".
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 21:05 GMT
Remember, without Christ, there can be no forgiveness:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you reject pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating
riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > It seems that you are obsessed with that which compells you to
> > automatically judge what you observe.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> criticizing others, or it will all come back on you. If you forgive others,
> you will be forgiven".
Dimitri - 18 Feb 2005 21:14 GMT
> Remember, without Christ, there can be no forgiveness:

No patients today or did you scare them off?

For an MD you sure to spend a lot of time on the UseNet.

Dimitri
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 21:24 GMT
Truly, it is written that God gives extra time to those whom He blesses
(Joshua 10:12).

You will remain in my prayers, dear Dimitri, whom I love, in Christ's
name.

May you reject pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating
riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > Remember, without Christ, there can be no forgiveness:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dimitri
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2005 18:26 GMT
Dear Dimitri,

We all have a reservoir of sin of varying degree, but that degree is
insignificant against the greater glory of the Father. If it weren't we
would be very, very close to His glory. Who would this be who is so
near to God amongst any of us?  Is it for us to know ?

The love is as unconditional as His forgiveness is, but it is up to
each of us to have a good conscience toward God. We stumble, it's our
nature to be that way. We can be all the things which belong to human
nature, including proud.

It's why Jesus is who He is and we are who we are. With forgiveness we
can find the strength in Him to keep in good conscience toward God.

Better to stumble forwards in His strength than to stumble backwards
by the pull of evil.  

In Christ's love
Carol T
tech27 - 21 Feb 2005 19:19 GMT
Has idiot Chung gotten a sex change.
Why do these f.cking Bible thumpers keep posting in this ng?
The OP asked for "doctor's only please". What part of that do you not
understand.
Stupid c.nt.

> Dear Dimitri,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T
Sheldon - 21 Feb 2005 20:17 GMT
> Has idiot Chung gotten a sex change.
> Why do these f.cking Bible thumpers keep posting in this ng?
> The OP asked for "doctor's only please". What part of that do you not

> understand.
> Stupid c.nt.

Jeeze... Sex Change & Stupid c.nt... sure smells like a bad
gynecologist.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Feb 2005 21:03 GMT
Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Sheldon, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> > Has idiot Chung gotten a sex change.
> > Why do these f.cking Bible thumpers keep posting in this ng?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Jeeze... Sex Change & Stupid c.nt... sure smells like a bad
> gynecologist.
Maverick - 23 Feb 2005 04:27 GMT
>> Has idiot Chung gotten a sex change.
>> Why do these f.cking Bible thumpers keep posting in this ng?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Jeeze... Sex Change & Stupid c.nt... sure smells like a bad
> gynecologist.

Sheldon!  I'm shocked at you!  I was expecting better than this.  Try again!
;->

Bret
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Feb 2005 21:03 GMT
Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> Has idiot Chung gotten a sex change.
> Why do these f.cking Bible thumpers keep posting in this ng?
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> > In Christ's love
> > Carol T
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2005 22:42 GMT
Dear Tech27

If you give testament to one mind in Christ then you give witness to
His presence near yourself. The hand that drives in the nails can be
the nearest of all and yet so far away in their sin.

"Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded
toward one another, according to Christ Jesus, that you may with one
mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus
Christ."  NKJ Rome 15:5-6

In Christ's love
Carol T
Edwin Pawlowski - 21 Feb 2005 23:49 GMT
> Dear Tech27
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

Do you ever speak in English?  For that matter, do you ever speak for
yourself or do you just quote what others have said because you have no mind
of your own?
listener - 21 Feb 2005 23:53 GMT
>> Dear Tech27
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> yourself or do you just quote what others have said because you have
> no mind of your own?

Does it matter?

Killfile her!

L.
tech27 - 22 Feb 2005 04:27 GMT
>> Dear Tech27
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> yourself or do you just quote what others have said because you have no
> mind of your own?
This c.nt and the idiot Chung should get their own NG and post this sh.t 
for each other. I'll bet after reading this crap long enough they will both
realize what f.cking morons they are.

Should have had another commandment: "Thou shalt not become rambling,
psychotic, idiot babblers in God's name."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2005 05:47 GMT
Ouch. You many have at the other cheek.

Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> >> Dear Tech27
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Should have had another commandment: "Thou shalt not become rambling,
> psychotic, idiot babblers in God's name."
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 22 Feb 2005 08:43 GMT
Dear Tech27,

Satan can throw tantrums you know, he can expose the spirit in the
heart of an unforgiven man. Anger is a destructive force on your heart,
there is no question about this, ask a cardiologist.

http://home.datawest.net/esn-recovery/free/prayer2.htm

In Christ's love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2005 09:33 GMT
> Dear Tech27,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

http://makeashorterlink.com/?H68B3588A

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
tech27 - 22 Feb 2005 19:29 GMT
But it is c.nts like you who I plonk and elimate from even looking at in
newsgroups.

Please die soon.

> Dear Tech27,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2005 21:07 GMT
It is written that God will bless people like Carol, who endures the
insults of others out of love for Him.

Truly, the way to God is extremely narrow door and the path is also
straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

> But it is c.nts like you who I plonk and elimate from even looking at in
> newsgroups.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > In Christ's love
> > Carol T
Ozgirl - 22 Feb 2005 23:37 GMT
> Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
> oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is
> what "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

And if you emptied your 32 ounce volume containers and
weighed the contents? Very, very likely the contents would
weigh more than 2 pounds unless your 32 ounce volume
consisted of marshmallows. Once again, I thank God that you
are not my cardiologist, the simple things in life are too
hard for you to grasp.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Feb 2005 05:58 GMT
> > Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that
> 16 oz plus 16
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> And if you emptied your 32 ounce volume containers and
> weighed the contents?

The container is a large jar that can hold 32 ounces (this is a weight).

> Very, very likely the contents would
> weigh more than 2 pounds unless your 32 ounce volume
> consisted of marshmallows.

2 pounds of marshmallows will weigh 32 ounces.  Sorry.

> Once again, I thank God that you
> are not my cardiologist, the simple things in life are too
> hard for you to grasp.

According to Exodus 16:33 Aaron was to use an arbitrary jar to hold an
omer of manna rather than represent a specific volume of the foodstuff.

q.e.d.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 23 Feb 2005 08:55 GMT
Dear tech27,

You do still have time to repent. It's not about me, but you and your
Lord and saviour. God bless you.

"And when the crowd that came to see the crucifixion saw all that had
happened, they went home in deep sorrow."  Luke 23:48NLT

In Christ's love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Feb 2005 09:54 GMT
> Dear tech27,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

Would only add that the way is straight and extremely narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

May we all pray that God touches "tech27" in a mighty way to enlighten
him, in Christ's name.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
tech27 - 23 Feb 2005 21:25 GMT
> Dear tech27,
>
> You do still have time to repent. It's not about me, but you and your
> Lord and saviour. God bless you.

No no, this IS about you - you stupid c.nt.

> "And when the crowd that came to see the crucifixion saw all that had
> happened, they went home in deep sorrow."  Luke 23:48NLT

And when the drivers came to pass the scene of the accident, they all turned
to look at the carnage and slowed down traffic.

So f.cking what?

> In Christ's love
> Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Feb 2005 00:31 GMT
It's painful to watch this... the empathy is *not* for Carol, who is
truly blessed by God, but for *you*, neighbor, who face death.

You remind me of a terrified drowning dog who would bite the hand of the
kind soul who is trying to rescue it.

With God's special blessing, the hand of the rescuer is never injured.
This is His promise.

Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say
all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor, whom I love, in Lord
Christ's holy name.

May you reject your pride, stop insulting Carol, and accept Christ as
your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too will have
eternal life and the fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129   

> > Dear tech27,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> > In Christ's love
> > Carol T

Signature

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2005 05:47 GMT
> > Dear Tech27
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> yourself or do you just quote what others have said because you have no mind
> of your own?

Truly, Carol is writing in English and her quoting the Holy Bible is a
beautiful thing.

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 22 Feb 2005 10:50 GMT
Dear Edwin,

Which others do I quote?

In Christ's love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Feb 2005 12:42 GMT
> Dear Edwin,
>
> Which others do I quote?
>
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

It seems that Edwin does not believe that the Holy Bible is the Word of
God but rather the words of men.

May this someday change for him, in Christ's holy name.


At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Bob (this one) - 18 Feb 2005 16:16 GMT
> Dear Bob,
>
> What is a matter with you that you are so focused on others and not the
> face we see of you?

Who's this "we" that I should be concerned about? ANd who says "What
is a matter...?"

> You do not have to take Andrew as your doctor, there are many thousands
> more in the world. I must admit that I have never witnessed a post
> which has attacked your skills either in such a way, despite the
> apparent anger you carry in your heart.

<LOL> I bet you were a real star in English class...

I don't really mean that.

Whatever that garbled sentence about attacking my skills means, it
shows once again how stunted is your ability to think and write. Who
cares what you "must admit?"

> We can all chose our skilled men to do their work as they have been
> trained, I believe that America is a free country.

Wonderful. Clear thinking. Brilliantly creative punctuation.

I don't mean that, either.

> It would be wrong of us to have a negative emotion for others (i.e.
> envy) and apply this emotion to an attack on their faith, as all faiths
> are full of people from all walks of life. Hence, the wrongful emotion
> is turned on those who are simply your neighbours, some of who have
> never had the opportunities to experience a blessed life as you have.
> It becomes and illogical act.

You're an illiterate clown cut from the same perverted mold as Chung.
Arrogant in the belief that you actually have something worthwhile to
say and incompetent in the capacity to actually say it comprehensibly.

> I have never doubted that you are a wonderful cook, I know no different
> and you certainly have an enthusiasm for what you do which is quite
> refreshing to read at times. Having grown up in a family of bakers and
> cooks I know how your skills can be central to a great celebration, but
> never more than Christ.

Blah, blah, blah...

I don't cook much anymore except at home. What I do is write
professionally, consult with large and small companies, make
commercial food products, do radio and TV work, teach, do a lot of
charity and volunteer work. I have been a cook at various times in my
life. Also a restaurant owner, country club operator, resort manager,
international marketer, copywriter, photographer and construction
laborer. None of these functions describe me. In aggregate, they
describe part of the journey I've taken, but they aren't my identity.

It's hard to see what you might be good at. Impossible to imagine you
as a competent operator given the garbled thinking and self-directed
speech. Blather.

Unfortunately for you, your blather does define you. It demonstrates
your sad lack of skill with language. It demonstrates your crippled
sense of communicating with other people. It demonstrates the
single-minded, humorless, blurry thinking you shower these screens
with every time you post. It demonstrates that you really care only
for the pious mouthings; not the realities behind them. Failed form
over trivial content.

Hit the road. You have nothing to say to me.

Bob
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 16:48 GMT
Those who choose to judge others often find themselve hating themselves
as much as those whom they have judged.  Thus, self-worship leads to
self-hate and despair:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of His
everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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> > Dear Bob,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>
> Bob

Signature

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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Bob (this one) - 18 Feb 2005 17:14 GMT
> Those who choose to judge others often find themselve hating
> themselves as much as those whom they have judged.  Thus,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> that you too will have eternal life and the fascinating riches of
> His everlasting kingdom.

Um, sure.

Hey, listen. I fixed the URL above for you. No need to thank me.

Bob
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 17:17 GMT
Truly, it is a very narrow door, neighbor:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Christ's name.

May you accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that
you too will have eternal life and the awesome riches of His everlasting
kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
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> > Those who choose to judge others often find themselve hating
> > themselves as much as those whom they have judged.  Thus,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Bob
cteasd5941@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2005 17:06 GMT
Dear Bob,

I am sorry if my English abilities, or perhaps lack of them, offend
you, but I am glad that you are having a fulfilled life and still
finding some time for voluntary work. English, language, spelling and
so forth are simply a common ground between two or more people. As long
as there is sufficient language between us we can talk to all manner of
people in all walks of life. This is a blessing and a joy we share with
relatively few people on the planet.

We are who we are you know. We don't have to be 'good' at anything and
we are certainly not less or more than anyone else in Gods eyes.

In Christ's love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Feb 2005 17:17 GMT
> Dear Bob,
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

All we can do is continue to pray earnestly that our heavenly Father
will "enable" Bob Pastorio to accept His Son.  

What we are unable to do, He is able :-)

Truly, I imagine the Apostle Paul was not unlike Bob Pastorio before his
encounter with God on the "road to Damascus."

At His service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Feb 2005 05:27 GMT
> If we attack a man's professional integrity because of his faith it
> would say volumes about our own depth of unresolved sin. Belief in God
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> In Christ's love
> Carol T

Anticipating Bob Pastorio's probably angry response of hurling insults
at you, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Carol, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May he continue to bless you with eternal life and the wonderful riches
of His everlasting kingdom.

For those who would like to receive the same blessings:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments,  the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD Approach.  Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make His
presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

At His service,

Andrew

Signature

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2F325D1A 
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A 
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A 
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A 
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A 
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

 
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