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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / September 2004

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Vitamins 'increase cholesterol'?

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Paul Eaton - 14 Sep 2004 11:28 GMT
Any comments?
GaryG - 14 Sep 2004 12:53 GMT
Any links?

> Any comments?
listener - 14 Sep 2004 13:08 GMT
peaton@pt.lu (Paul Eaton) wrote in news:13eed8fa.0409140228.1cc547a6
@posting.google.com:

> Any comments?

Umm...sure..if you post more information. (links to articles and/or studies
- that sort of thing.)

L.
Nashville Pete - 14 Sep 2004 15:41 GMT
The Earth is flat.

> Any comments?
Jim Chinnis - 14 Sep 2004 21:42 GMT
>Any comments?

Nope.
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Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Paul Eaton - 15 Sep 2004 14:51 GMT
> Any comments?

Apologies, a search on this new group has sice brought up plenty of
info. My interest was sparked by a BBC article:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3673365.stm
listener - 15 Sep 2004 15:51 GMT
peaton@pt.lu (Paul Eaton) wrote in news:13eed8fa.0409150551.46a6ecf8
@posting.google.com:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3673365.stm

No wonder people are confused about health!

The vitamin industry is a billion dollar, largely unregulated industry with
little, if any, science to support some of their claims. (I'm not saying
that supplements may, in fact, not be helpful..). Perhaps the anti-pharma
spokespeople here should consider taking on the vitamin industry too.

Sometimes I think we live in the stone age of cardiac science.

L.
Zee - 15 Sep 2004 17:07 GMT
> Any comments?

Hold the antioxidants and improve plasma lipids
http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/113/9/1253

"Thus, although there is considerable evidence for the involvement of
oxidative stress in many disease processes, including atherosclerosis,
the potential for unintended outcomes of antioxidant therapy should
serve as a warning against proceeding with such treatment in the
absence of clinical-trial evidence for benefit and safety."

I apply the same criteria to my vitamin choices as I do to my
medications choices. Because I haven't seen clinical evidence of
efficacy for any supplement pertinent to my needs, I use none. I view
vitamin 'science' with skepticism and think most if not all is blatant
quackery. But there many suffering from HIV, HEPC, Multiple Sclerosis
and cancers, not to mention those injured by statins, who think
differently.

There are also those whose health ethic involves taking something.
Always taking something. "A pill for every ill". And often a pill to
prevent ill. Statins, for example, are largely marketed as preventive
although there is little evidence for this. How ironic that those
injured by an unproven pill would seek cure in another unproven 'pill'.

The marketing departments of medications pharma and supplement pharma
(increasingly the same entity) know their targets well.

Zee
 
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