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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / September 2004What percentage of successful cardiologists...?
...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and respond to 6 usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning? We are all truly blessed here by the presence of OCD Chung (despite the fact that not one of this morning's postings was related to cardiology, but at least those posts will help us all to elucidate the "truth" as it exists in the Chungian mind). GG > ...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and respond to 6 > usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning? All who have God's blessing find it easy to do the seemingly impossible. All praised belong to my heavenly Father whom I love with all my heart, soul, and mind. > We are all truly blessed here Yes, we are. > by the presence of OCD Chung Ouch. You may have at the other cheek. > (despite the fact > that not one of this morning's postings was related to cardiology, but at > least those posts will help us all to elucidate the "truth" as it exists in > the Chungian mind). (Sorry my being open Christian continues to bother you). > GG You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD crossposted: <snip> -------------------------------- With one click you can make entire threads such as this disappear. If enough people do this maybe the stupid cross-posters will get bored with spamming themselves. It's not only possible but easy to ignore and hide an entire conversation (thread). It's a simple two-step process: 1. First you have to set up a view definition to hide ignored messages, then 2. when you're scanning posts you can simply highlight the original post in the thread you want to ignore. Then click on the toolbar: "Message>Ignore Conversation" Voila! The offending thread disappears! Here is the way to set it up, copied directly from the OE help file: -------------------- To hide ignored messages so they don't clutter up your message lists, click View, point to Current View, and then select Hide Read or Ignored Messages. Selecting Hide Read or Ignored Messages will hide messages you have read, messages you have ignored, and messages you have both read and ignored. If you want to hide ignored messages, but want to keep your read messages visible, click Hide Read or Ignored Messages as instructed above, then click View (again) , point to Current View, and then select Define Views. In the Define Views dialog box, click New. In box 1 of the View Editor, select Where the message has been read. In box 2, click the words Show/Hide and select Show messages. In box 3, give this view a name (e.g., "Hide Ignored Messages") and then click OK. ---------------- Once this is activated, when you first click on "Ignore Conversation" on the Message Toolbar the thread just turns light grey (ignored). But once you exit the newsgroup and return, the entire thread is completely gone from view unless and until you decide to change the view back to include ignored conversations. Thanks for the info. Maggie > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD crossposted: > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > thread is completely gone from view unless and until you decide to change > the view back to include ignored conversations. > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD crossposted: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > thread is completely gone from view unless and until you decide to change > the view back to include ignored conversations. Thanks. Hadn't thought of this approach. Lucky I even saw it since normally I would have set the thread to ignore anyway. -------------------- VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03 >> ...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and respond to 6 >> usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning? > >All who have God's blessing find it easy to do the seemingly impossible. Engaging in endless flames wars on the internet, ruining this group with your unwanted presence, etc.... is doing the impossible? You are impossibly full of both sh.t and yourself. > >> ...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and respond to 6 > >> usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Engaging in endless flames wars on the internet, ruining this group > with your unwanted presence, etc.... is doing the impossible? No. > You are impossibly full of both sh.t and yourself. Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you. You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Please consider the following to save yourself: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote on 31 Aug 2004 16:29:07 -0700: >> You are impossibly full of both sh.t and yourself. > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you. "Being"? If only. I think you might do well to follow the specific directions of a certain man called Jesus, as recorded in chapter 6 of the book of Matthew: "Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. When you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in Usenet and in the streets that they may be glorified by men. .... Also, when you pray, you must not be as the hypocrites; because they like to pray posting in Usenet and on the corners of the broad ways to be visible to men. Truly, I say to you, they are having their reward in full. You, however, when you pray, go into your private room and after shutting your door and switching off your computer, pray to you Father who is in secret..... ......do not say the same things over and over again, just as the people of the nations do, for they imagine they will get a hearing for their use of many words." > Andrew  SignatureAlan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"). > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote on 31 Aug 2004 > 16:29:07 -0700: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > "Being"? If only. It is only. You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Please consider the following to save yourself: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote on Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:54:18 -0400: >> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote on 31 Aug 2004 >> 16:29:07 -0700: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> "Being"? If only. > It is only. > You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. The thing is, Andrew, you're not a Christian. You're more like the Pharisees denounced by Jesus in Matthew chapter 23, from verse 25 onwards. To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of Christ and model your entire being around them. This, you blatantly fail to do. > Andrew SignatureAlan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"). > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote on Thu, 02 Sep > 2004 14:54:18 -0400: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The thing is, Andrew, you're not a Christian. Your judgment. > You're more like the > Pharisees denounced by Jesus in Matthew chapter 23, from verse 25 > onwards. More judgment. > To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of Christ > and model your entire being around them. In truth, it is simpler than that. All you have to do is accept that Christ is your personal Lord and Savior. Please see the discussion that starts with the following OP: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129 > This, you blatantly fail to do. No one fails at becoming a Christian. Many will fail to choose to become a Christian. Truth is simple. You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote on Sat, 04 Sep 2004 09:08:06 -0400: >> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote on Thu, 02 Sep >> 2004 14:54:18 -0400: >> >> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nospam6@heartmdphd.com> wrote on 31 Aug 2004 >> >> 16:29:07 -0700: >> The thing is, Andrew, you're not a Christian. > Your judgment. >> You're more like the Pharisees denounced by Jesus in Matthew chapter >> 23, from verse 25 onwards. > More judgment. Don't worry, Andrew, I can't "prove" it, if that's what you're worried about. It's kind of self-evident, though. >> To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of Christ >> and model your entire being around them. > In truth, it is simpler than that. > All you have to do is accept that Christ is your personal Lord and > Savior.... ...., whilst at the same time, despising the principles and teachings of that "Lord and Savior"? I think not, Andrew. [ .... ] > No one fails at becoming a Christian. It is self evident that you have failed. > Many will fail to choose to become a Christian. Indeed so. I have chosen to be an atheist - an assertive, positive choice, in which I take ultimate responsibility for my own actions and my own morality. > Truth is simple. Only to some people who haven't thought it through. > Andrew SignatureAlan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"). > Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote on Sat, 04 Sep > 2004 09:08:06 -0400: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Don't worry, Andrew, I can't "prove" it, if that's what you're worried > about. It's kind of self-evident, though. Only to the godless. > >> To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of Christ > >> and model your entire being around them. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ...., whilst at the same time, despising the principles and teachings of > that "Lord and Savior"? I think not, Andrew. Those who despise His Word have not accepted Him. > > No one fails at becoming a Christian. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > choice, in which I take ultimate responsibility for my own actions and my > own morality. Enough written. And so you will be judged: http://www.heartmdphd.com/christ.asp > > Truth is simple. > > Only to some people who haven't thought it through. To all who can discern it. You remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 >>>>>>>>>>> To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of Christ > and model your entire being around them. This, you blatantly fail to do. > > Andrew<<<<<<<<<<< "Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." John 12:29-31 Which of these commandments has Andrew failed? Who determines the measure of a Christian when Christ Himself said that he did not come to save the righteous, but the sinners? Had Christ taken a measuring stick to measure the sin of men, how many times around the world would it have reached? If Andrew has accepted Christ's forgiveness, then who else is there more to him than His saviour who can judge and condemn him? Can any of us be more than Christ was? "When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." KJ Mark 2:17 Carol T Carol T <cteasd5941@hotmail.com> wrote on 6 Sep 2004 12:14:13 -0700: Hi, Carol! >>>>>>>>>>>> To be a Christian, you've got to adopt the teachings of >>>>>>>>>>>> Christ and model your entire being around them. This, you >>>>>>>>>>>> blatantly fail to do. > "Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O > Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord > your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, > and with all your strength.' > This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You > shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment > greater than these." John 12:29-31 > Which of these commandments has Andrew failed? Hopefully, the second of them. He has treated the members of this newsgroup with dismissive contempt. I'd like to think he treats himself rather better. Have a look at the beginning of Matthew chapter 6, the bit that tells you not to be publicly self-righteous. I reminded Andrew of this a few posts back, and he silently snipped it. > Who determines the measure of a Christian when Christ Himself said that > he did not come to save the righteous, but the sinners? We must all do so. Turning again to the book of Matthew, this time chapter 7, verse 6, we are directed "Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open." Implicit in this is an injunction to decide who are dogs and swine. Otherwise, we would not differentiate between blatant lying hypocrites and sincere good people. [ .... ] > If Andrew has accepted Christ's forgiveness, ..... "If", indeed. > ..... then who else is there more to him than His saviour who can judge > and condemn him? On this newsgroup, me. And a whole lot of other people, too. Remember, "Do not throw your pearls before swine". [ .... ] > Carol T SignatureAlan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"). > Carol T <cteasd5941@hotmail.com> wrote on 6 Sep 2004 12:14:13 -0700: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Hopefully, the second of them. Why would you hope that I not love you, dear neighbor? Nonetheless, you remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 > Carol T <cteasd5941@hotmail.com> wrote on 6 Sep 2004 12:14:13 -0700: >>>>>> Hopefully, the second of them. He has treated the members of this > newsgroup with dismissive contempt. I'd like to think he treats himself > rather better. <<<<<<<<<<<< Dear Alan, What is it that Andrew has done that Christ has not forgiven Him for? If Christ can forgive the transgressors against Him, can we not also forgive too? >>>> Have a look at the beginning of Matthew chapter 6, the bit that tells you > not to be publicly self-righteous. I reminded Andrew of this a few posts > back, and he silently snipped it.<<<<<<<<< Is it not the greatest of all uncharitable acts to hide the light of another's saviour for lack of evangelism? >>>>>>>> We must all do so. Turning again to the book of Matthew, this time > chapter 7, verse 6, we are directed "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." KJ Mat 7:6 <<<<<<<< I do not think that Andrew considers you to be either swine or dogs, but neighbours who are worthy to hear God's Holy Word through The Holy Spirit, just as I do. This isn't about Andrew, if he is indeed sinful, or even I come to that. Why hold the sin of another to clothe our nakedness before God? We are all sinners in Christ's perfect light. Surely we have come on from the time of Adam when we would have grabbed at the fig leaves to cover us? Listen to what is said, even to the evil amongst us. I can promise you that this is truth .... "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?" Matthew 7:7-11 In the forgiveness of our sin, through Christ's death on the Cross, we all become part of the greater body of Christ. Where ever we are in this world His Holy Spirit is amongst us. "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." KJ Matthew 18:20-22 Do not 'hope' for Andrew to have broken commandments, but forgive him, forgive him, and forgive him again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again. This is Christ's way for us all. Carol T > > ..... then who else is there more to him than His saviour who can judge > > and condemn him? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Carol T >>>>>> ...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and respond to 6 > usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning?<<<<<<<<< One who would chose The love of his Lord's work over his own spare time. Look after The Lord's business and He will look after yours. "What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel. For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ+), that I might win those who are without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you. Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified." NKJ 1 Corinthians 9:18-27 Carol T > >>>>>> ...can take the time from their busy practices to read, and > respond to 6 > > usenet postings at 11 am on a Monday morning?<<<<<<<<< > > One who would chose The love of his Lord's work over his own spare > time. LOL - or, one who has very few patients and a deep-seated obsession with proselytizing and cross-posting on usenet. FWIW, the cardiologists I know have no "spare time". GG > LOL - or, one who has very few patients and a deep-seated obsession with > proselytizing and cross-posting on usenet. > > FWIW, the cardiologists I know have no "spare time". A cardiologist who has no spare time may come to think that he is God himself, and in time he would become a very troubled man indeed. Fortunately this is not the case for Andrew, he knows that there is no greater work to do than that of the Lord's. We all die eventually, regardless of the speciality of any doctor. Only Jesus truly saves lives. My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth. And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. NKJ 1John 3:18-23 Carol T >> LOL - or, one who has very few patients and a deep-seated obsession >> with proselytizing and cross-posting on usenet. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Carol T Good answer, Andrew and with, of course, the obligitory bible quote. We all know what GaryG meant by "no spare time" with the exception of you. It's something you have way too much of. Pysician, heal thyself. L. > Good answer, Andrew and with, of course, the obligitory bible quote. We > all know what GaryG meant by "no spare time" with the exception of you. If you think that I am Andrew, then it is a testament to the Spirit in Christ, as I am in the UK and Andrew, I think, is in America. I am sure that you may be able to verify this through the post route. " fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus," Phil 2:2-5 Carol T > > Good answer, Andrew and with, of course, the obligitory bible quote. We > > all know what GaryG meant by "no spare time" with the exception of you. > > If you think that I am Andrew, then it is a testament to the Spirit in > Christ, as I am in the UK and Andrew, I think, is in America. I am > sure that you may be able to verify this through the post route. Yes, I am in America. Specifically in Atlanta, Georgia. Where in the UK are you, dear Carol? > " fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of > one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through selfish ambition > or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better > than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, > but also for the interests of others. Let this mind be in you which > was also in Christ Jesus," Phil 2:2-5 May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in SMC, in Christ's holy name. Amen :-) > Carol T You remain in my prayers, dear Carol whom I love. May God continue to bless you today and everyday, in Christ's holy name. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 A quite beautiful area of the Midlands, not too far from Wales. Carol T > A quite beautiful area of the Midlands, not too far from Wales. > > Carol T I would love to visit you sometime in the future, Lord willing, dear sister Carol. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ ** Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48 Is this spam? http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 |
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