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Q&A about the H1N1 Pan-Flu virus
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 May 2009 16:47 GMT "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular virology and microbiology, last week began collecting blood samples from local swine flu patients that will be used in the development of a vaccine in anticipation of the virus returning this fall. Keitel, the lead investigator of the national effort, talked with Chronicle reporter Todd Ackerman about the new virus, the seasonal flu and the lure of a so-called universal flu vaccine that would work against all types of flu.
Q: What role will the blood samples play in developing a vaccine?
A: We are not making a vaccine at Baylor. What these samples will do is enable us to understand how the body develops an immunity against the illness. The changes from when sufferers are acutely ill to when they are getting better can help us figure out how a vaccine should perform. Thats important in vaccine trials.
Q: Whats the likelihood well have an effective swine flu vaccine in ample supply this fall?
A: Good. Most seasonal influenza vaccine production will be done by the end of July so manufacturers will be able to switch their manufacturing capacity to swine flu at that time if it appears the virus will circulate again when influenza season starts.
Q: What are the chances the virus could mutate significantly from what were seeing now?
A: The most important thing people need to understand about the influenza virus is that its a wily and unpredictable foe. We already know that an H1N1 virus went from mild to severe in the 1918 pandemic. That doesnt mean that this one will. I think you hope for the best and you anticipate there could be a change in the virulence. But even if doesnt change to become more virulent, itll likely still cause widespread infections, deaths, doctors visits, hospitalizations and secondary pneumonias what we see every year with seasonal influenza. Q: To experts in the field, does it seem unacceptable that 36,000 people a year die from the flu?
A: Certainly, its not acceptable to us. Over 90 percent of people who die from seasonal flu are elderly, whose immune systems arent as strong and tend to have underlying chronic conditions that can increase their risk for complications of influenza. So there has been a tremendous effort to develop specific vaccines for the protection of the elderly and other people with underlying conditions.
Q: Is it true we still dont know that much about the flu?
A: We know a lot about the flu, but we still have a lot to learn. Over the past 10 years, the medical communitys growing awareness of the huge impact flu has on individuals and in populations has led to a progressive expansion of immunization efforts against influenza. Theres even a move toward a universal immunization against influenza, vaccines that may stimulate immunity that lasts longer than a year. But those are hopes and dreams still.
Q: What are common misconceptions about flu viruses, generally?
A: The most common misconception is that its not a big deal, its just the flu. Its that perception that for many years undermined efforts to control it.
Q: There seems to be a growing consensus now that adults do have some natural protection against swine flu, is that right? At what age does that start?
A: When theyve tested blood from older people, they tend to have detectable levels of antibodies to this virus, whereas younger people dont. We think it may be related to an H1N1 virus that circulated before 1957 and then disappeared. People born before then may have been exposed to closely related viruses and have some immunity.
Q: Why do you think swine flu caused so much more death in Mexico and seems relatively mild here?
A: I think we havent seen the end of it here yet. Its not over until its over. I suspect it was more widespread in Mexico than reported, which would mean the death rate wasnt as high as it seemed. Thatll be the subject of investigation. But its premature to draw any conclusions about whether its worse or better here yet.
Q: Has anything about this outbreak better prepared us for the next epidemic?
A: Yes. The concern about bird flu, H5N1, resulted in a concerted prevention effort that I think better prepared us for this, but this outbreak still exposed public health system gaps: We had shortages of rapid diagnostic tests for our labs; we had inadequate supplies or ability to get antivirals into areas where disease was occurring; and our surveillance system had huge weaknesses we had a large outbreak that was already international before we even knew it was occurring."
Source:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6438722.html
What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the possible eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/Pan-Flu
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
http://T3WiJ.com
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist, Board-certified Cardiologist, and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
panamfloyd@hotmail.com - 25 May 2009 16:54 GMT On May 25, 11:47 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:
> "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular > virology and microbiology, ..actually has a *real* practice! You should learn something from him, Andy.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 May 2009 17:19 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7251834f8922d5d9?
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Panama Floyd, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Bob Larter - 25 May 2009 18:29 GMT > On May 25, 11:47 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> > wrote: >> "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular >> virology and microbiology, > > ..actually has a *real* practice! You should learn something from him, Yeah. Lesson one would be "How not to get kicked out of the medical profession."
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 May 2009 18:49 GMT >PF wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spririt, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Yeah. Lesson one would be "How not to get kicked out of the medical >profession." Lesson one for you two would be that if someone's name is Wendy, she's a her and not a him :-)
Lesson two is to take pre-med virology and microbiology classes in college to learn that Dr. Wendy Keitel is not a physician.
Lesson three is to apply to enter into medical school to discover that folks like you are kept out of the medical profession while folks with MD/PhD degrees are kept in the medical profession.
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Bob, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 25 May 2009 17:02 GMT ""Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular virology and microbiology, last week began collecting blood samples from local swine flu patients that will be used in the development of a vaccine in anticipation of the virus returning this fall. Keitel, the lead investigator of the national effort, talked with Chronicle reporter Todd Ackerman about the new virus, the seasonal flu and the lure of a so-called universal flu vaccine that would work against all types of flu."
We need more information like this from the experts in the field.
Anyone else claiming to be a source of valid information should be measured by their other contributions to these newsgroups.
If they are flakey in most areas they will likely be so in the area of flu.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 May 2009 17:20 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/189334e6667a46a6?
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What we are teaching to prepare folks for the possible eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
http://T3WiJ.com
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist, Board-certified Cardiologist, and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
anonymous@nowhere.you.know - 25 May 2009 20:53 GMT ""Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular virology and microbiology, last week began collecting blood samples from local swine flu patients that will be used in the development of a vaccine in anticipation of the virus returning this fall. Keitel, the lead investigator of the national effort, talked with Chronicle reporter Todd Ackerman about the new virus, the seasonal flu and the lure of a so-called universal flu vaccine that would work against all types of flu."
We need more information like this from the experts in the field.
Anyone else claiming to be a source of valid information should be measured by their other contributions to these newsgroups.
If they are flakey in most areas they will likely be so in the area of flu.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 May 2009 21:21 GMT satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/251c10f7913d9afb? > > We need more information like this from the experts in the field. What you need is to be rebuked.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile) continue to be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/189334e6667a46a6?
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What we are teaching to prepare folks for the possible eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
http://T3WiJ.com
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist, Board-certified Cardiologist, and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Ethereal Engineer - 29 May 2009 04:51 GMT Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (# being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates, which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet, then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his 'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they pass away.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 May 2009 06:37 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b32c5d6a93cd0ed2?
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"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a catastrophic Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
http://T3WiJ.com
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW):
http://WDJW.net
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke 24:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Jesus is LORD, forever !!!
http://JiL4ever.net
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
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