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Ben - 20 Apr 2009 23:05 GMT
I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of
weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that
all the results were fine, except my hemoglobin. It was to low, the reading
was Hb 132 and RBC 4.14. He was concerned about it and told me, that he
would like to have another test done in one Month. If it still was the same,
he will send me to a specialist. I was wondering could this be a result from
medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you thing?

Ben
Randrew Rung - 21 Apr 2009 04:06 GMT
>I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of
>weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>result from medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you
>thing?

I think you should listen to your dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Apr 2009 08:33 GMT
> I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of
> weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> he will send me to a specialist. I was wondering could this be a result from
> medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you think?

Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http://T3WiJ.com
Randrew Rung - 21 Apr 2009 16:08 GMT
>> I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of
>> weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.

Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice:

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
bwmeyers@toast.net - 22 Apr 2009 15:34 GMT
>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.
>
>Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice:

Why should we listen to YOUR advice?  Evidently, you are an MD?
Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us.  Why can't
you sign your posts with some meaningful id?  Why don't you point out
what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above?  Seems to me his advice is
that his questioner ask his own doctor about something.

BAH!

Bob
Christ Died to Save You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 17:30 GMT
Bill Meyers wrote:
> a non-christian despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Why should we listen to YOUR advice?

There is no reason.

> Evidently, you are an MD?

There is no evidence of that.

>Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us.

That would be his wish.

> Why can't you sign your posts with some meaningful id?

He fears the truth.

> Why don't you point out what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above?

There is nothing wrong with a real doctor given general medical advice
on Usenet.

>Seems to me his advice is
>that his questioner ask his own doctor about something.

Thus, the non-christian unwittingly demonstrates how GOD is able to
use non-christians to show that the righteousness of true Christians
(either Jew or gentile) is from our personal relationship with His one
and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ :-)

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Doctor
http://T3WiJ.com
Flandew Flung (poo) - 22 Apr 2009 17:42 GMT
> Bill Meyers wrote:
>> a non-christian despairingly posted:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> There is no reason.

Unless you want to live of course,

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 19:13 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b38acd3068c0b3f1?

<><

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?"
(WDJW):

http://WDJW.net  

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus (T3WIJ):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
Flandew Flung (poo) - 22 Apr 2009 17:41 GMT
>>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
>>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above?  Seems to me his advice is
> that his questioner ask his own doctor about something.

Which I already said before Chung did.  Hey, if you want to believe his
lies, be my guest.
Proven facts and truths below:
Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
Fred Thomas - 22 Apr 2009 21:10 GMT
>>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
>>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Bob
> Christ Died to Save You
Apparently you have not read any of Chung's posts. Any body of reasonable
intelligence would look unfavorable on Chung's posts, and not defend them.
Dan Listermann - 22 Apr 2009 21:24 GMT
> Bob
> Christ Died to Save You

From what?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 21:36 GMT
> Bob Meyers wrote:
>
>> Bob
>> Christ Died to Save You
>
>From what?

From your death sentence:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist

"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen.

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fred Thomas - 22 Apr 2009 23:57 GMT
>> Bob Meyers wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit

The wages of growing old is death, your point?

> Amen.
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 02:14 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

>The wages of growing old is death, your point?

Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile),
because we have eternal life...

"For GOD so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." --
LORD Jesus Christ (John 3:16)

Amen.

When we believe in Jesus, Who is GOD's Son, we trust Jesus, Who is the
truth.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen.

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fred Thomas - 23 Apr 2009 11:18 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile),
> because we have eternal life...

That is a myth that is not original to "Christianity". You have determined that
all those other religions with that belief as myth, yours is in the same
category. You will die and that will be it. You have no soul, there is no
heaven, it's a lie.

> "For GOD so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
> whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." --
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:25 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>That is a myth that is not original to "Christianity".

Reality is not myth:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungry

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:06 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Reality is not myth:

You can easily identify the stories of other religions as myths, but you
have a great huge blind spot for your own superstition.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:36 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>You can easily identify the stories of other religions as myths, but you
>have a great huge blind spot for your own superstition.

Christianity is neither religion, myth, nor supersitition:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/NoReligion

Instead, it remains a personal relationship with Christ Jesus.

Being brought back from death by GOD is very personal:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:10 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Christianity is neither religion, myth, nor supersitition:

Only by your fiat, nothing more, silly.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:09 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Only by your fiat, nothing more, silly.

Please be sure to let us know when the Holy Spirit helps you publicly
say "Jesus is LORD" as He is helping me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 23 Apr 2009 20:57 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Reality is not myth:

The reality is that your lord is a myth.

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungry
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:32 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> >
> > Reality is not myth:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

> The reality is that your lord is a myth.

The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly
say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 22:17 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly
> say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit:

Garbage.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 22:31 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Garbage.

Not for the folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal
comprehension.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 00:39 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Not for the folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal
> comprehension.

Folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal comprehension do not need
help for communication from a mythological character from a text written by
bronze age goat herders.

> Truth is simple :-)
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 00:36 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly
> say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit:

The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality. The true reality is
your mentally ill.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://WDJW.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 10:01 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
> Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD."

> The true reality is your mentally ill.

You are projecting your difficulties with reality onto others:

"What is truth?" -- the rhetorical question of a non-christian (John
18:38)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 11:11 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>>>
>>> Truth is simple :-

The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality.
The true reality is your mentally ill.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 15:55 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.

Incorrect.

You and other non-christians remain not able to publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" as oft observed:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

The only rational explanation for this observation is " ... no one can
say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 21:19 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth is simple :-)

The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 21:26 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
>The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.

Incorrect.

Reality is as being observed:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
The only rational explanation for this observation is " ... no one can
say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

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Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 21:31 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> Incorrect.

The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 00:05 GMT
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any
> time.

I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues.
Fred Thomas - 25 Apr 2009 00:42 GMT
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues.
They can write though.........
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 01:05 GMT
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>> I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues.
> They can write though.........

Yeah but then it would be "write" and not "say".  You gotta be specific with
"dr" Chung.  Or he'll just twist your words or give you one of his classic
non-answers.
Fred Thomas - 25 Apr 2009 01:34 GMT
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> with "dr" Chung.  Or he'll just twist your words or give you one of his
> classic non-answers.
Oh right sorry my bad.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2009 05:05 GMT
> Oh right sorry my bad.

Without the LORD, you are both sorry and bad (Ecclesiastes).

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 00:04 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Incorrect.

God knows you're proof of that.
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 15:09 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile),
> because we have eternal life...

Per monkfish, is that your blind faith?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:35 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Per monkfish, is that your blind faith?

No.

It is my GOD-given experience:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:10 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> It is my GOD-given experience:

Right.  The supposed creator of the Universe sat down in front of you and
told you this and anybody else, even the non-brainwashed, can experience
this explanation, at will, without first buying a load of MYTHS.

Whip out your next pile of scripture please.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:31 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
>Right.

GOD is right :-)

>The supposed creator of the Universe sat down in front of you and
>told you this and anybody else, even the non-brainwashed, can experience
>this explanation, at will, without first buying a load of MYTHS.

Incorrect.

GOD simply brought me back from death:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:11 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Incorrect.

Well that was easy to say.  Can you explain yourself without hypertexting
some nonsense?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:15 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Well that was easy to say.

It was easy to type and electronically post.

> Can you explain yourself without hypertexting
> some nonsense?

As soon as you hear someone publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you have,
that would be experiencing a miracle, which is evidence of GOD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 15:08 GMT
>> Bob Meyers wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> From your death sentence:

Hey, I got news for you.  You and everybody else is under the same death
sentence.  Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you
do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture?  I can't wait . . .
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:30 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>sentence.  Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you
>do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture?

Certainly:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

> I can't wait . . .

That would be because your time is running out.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:11 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
>>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Certainly:

I am not going to wade through you pile of sites.  If you can spit it out,
quick and easy right here, maybe it is just too stupid to type.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:25 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>Hey, I got news for you.  You and everybody else is under the same death
>>>sentence.

Incorrect.

Those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), have
eternal life (John 3:16).

>>> Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you
>>> do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture?
>>
>> Certainly:
>
> I am not going to wade through you pile of sites.

Your choice.

> If you can spit it out,
> quick and easy right here, maybe it is just too stupid to type.

GOD had brought me back from the dead.

The evidence remains as published:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:14 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), have
> eternal life (John 3:16).

Totally unfounded except for some hypertext pile of nonsense that is due any
minute. . ..

>>>> Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you
>>>> do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> GOD had brought me back from the dead.

Wonderful.  I don't believe that sort of "evidence."  There are thousands of
these sorts of stories told by thousands of religions.  They are
meaningless.  Can you do better?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:25 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Totally unfounded except for some hypertext pile of nonsense that is due any
> minute. . ..

Not for those of us who have had the personal experience of being
brought back by GOD after dying and not for those of us who simply
trust the written words of Jesus, Who is the truth.

You do remind me of the man, blind from birth, denying the existence
of vision.

To this day, that blind man remains angry about the confidence of the
seeing in discussions about the existence of vision.

And, so you will remain angry about the confidence of true Christians
(either Jew or gentile) in discussions about GOD until you come to
trust His Son, Jesus.

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net
Teg - 23 Apr 2009 23:50 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> brought back by GOD after dying and not for those of us who simply
> trust the written words of Jesus, Who is the truth.

Andrew for information: I have died several times and each time was
bought back to life by the doctor(s) who were treating me, there was no
religious experience, no white light, no tunnel, no God bringing me
back, I am not a believer and can say publicly that "Jesus is Lord".

> You do remind me of the man, blind from birth, denying the existence
> of vision.
Do you know this man, do you know any blind man that denies the
existence of vision. (just curious).

> To this day, that blind man remains angry about the confidence of the
> seeing in discussions about the existence of vision.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Board-certified Heart Doctor
> http://WDJW.net
Chungholio - 23 Apr 2009 17:22 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
>>>> Bob Meyers wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Um, dipshit, he said WITHOUT the scripture.  Face it, you can't.

Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)

Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)

Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days

Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals

Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website

Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)

Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.

Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.

Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe

Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.

Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.

Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.

Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".

Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.

Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
Thommadura - 23 Apr 2009 00:32 GMT
>> Bob
>> Christ Died to Save You
>
> From what?

From theists - and obviously - it didn't work.
So much for that almighty god thingy.
Chungholio - 23 Apr 2009 04:35 GMT
>>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your
>>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.
>>
>>Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice:
>
> Why should we listen to YOUR advice?

Because Chung's advice is assuredly doom.

> Evidently, you are an MD?

Evidently, compared to Chung, almost everyone here is.

> Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us.

If you say it's obvious, then it must be true.

> Why can't
> you sign your posts with some meaningful id?

What?  And be subjected to stalking?  Right.

> Why don't you point out
> what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above?

You don't know Chung very well, do you?

> Seems to me his advice is
> that his questioner ask his own doctor about something.

Second verse same as the first.

Get a clue, Holmes.
Ben - 21 Apr 2009 18:06 GMT
Yes, I am aware about the thyroid gland. The amiodarone took care of that 6
years ago. I am not on Levothyroxine. I went though a rough time, it took
the doctors a long time to connect that with amiodarone. He had send me to a
throat specialist and could not find anything wrong, but treated me for
reflux. till I almost could not walk anymore, they checked my thyroid and
now I am on medication for that. Therefore I want to be a step ahead of the
doctors, before they send me again to a bunch of specialist and try all
kinds of medication. I would like to know if the Low hemoglobin is a result
of the use of Amiodarone and the tingling and cold finger tips a result of
the low hemoglobin. In two weeks, I will have again the blood test done, if
it is still low, I will bring it to the doctors attention that it might come
from the Amiodarone. I have been on it for about 8 years

Ben
>> I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of
>> weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Board-certified Cardiologist
> http://T3WiJ.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 10:49 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Ben

It is unlikely that the low hemoglobin is due to the amiodarone.

Would suggest you ask your doctor to check your ferritin and
reticulocyte count.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
]--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http://T3WiJ.com
 
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