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Ben - 20 Apr 2009 23:05 GMT I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that all the results were fine, except my hemoglobin. It was to low, the reading was Hb 132 and RBC 4.14. He was concerned about it and told me, that he would like to have another test done in one Month. If it still was the same, he will send me to a specialist. I was wondering could this be a result from medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you thing?
Ben
Randrew Rung - 21 Apr 2009 04:06 GMT >I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of >weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >result from medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you >thing? I think you should listen to your dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 21 Apr 2009 08:33 GMT > I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of > weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > he will send me to a specialist. I was wondering could this be a result from > medication I am taking? I am using Amiodarone. What do you think? Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://T3WiJ.com
Randrew Rung - 21 Apr 2009 16:08 GMT >> I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of >> weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your > thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone. Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice:
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (# being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates, which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet, then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his 'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they pass away.
bwmeyers@toast.net - 22 Apr 2009 15:34 GMT >> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your >> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone. > >Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice: Why should we listen to YOUR advice? Evidently, you are an MD? Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us. Why can't you sign your posts with some meaningful id? Why don't you point out what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above? Seems to me his advice is that his questioner ask his own doctor about something.
BAH!
Bob Christ Died to Save You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 17:30 GMT Bill Meyers wrote:
> a non-christian despairingly posted: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Why should we listen to YOUR advice? There is no reason.
> Evidently, you are an MD? There is no evidence of that.
>Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us. That would be his wish.
> Why can't you sign your posts with some meaningful id? He fears the truth.
> Why don't you point out what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above? There is nothing wrong with a real doctor given general medical advice on Usenet.
>Seems to me his advice is >that his questioner ask his own doctor about something. Thus, the non-christian unwittingly demonstrates how GOD is able to use non-christians to show that the righteousness of true Christians (either Jew or gentile) is from our personal relationship with His one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ :-)
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Doctor http://T3WiJ.com
Flandew Flung (poo) - 22 Apr 2009 17:42 GMT > Bill Meyers wrote: >> a non-christian despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > There is no reason. Unless you want to live of course,
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (# being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates, which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet, then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his 'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they pass away.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 19:13 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b38acd3068c0b3f1?
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What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a catastrophic Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
http://T3WiJ.com
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW):
http://WDJW.net
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke 24:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus (T3WIJ):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
Flandew Flung (poo) - 22 Apr 2009 17:41 GMT >>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your >>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above? Seems to me his advice is > that his questioner ask his own doctor about something. Which I already said before Chung did. Hey, if you want to believe his lies, be my guest. Proven facts and truths below: Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (# being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates, which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet, then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his 'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they pass away.
Fred Thomas - 22 Apr 2009 21:10 GMT >>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your >>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Bob > Christ Died to Save You Apparently you have not read any of Chung's posts. Any body of reasonable intelligence would look unfavorable on Chung's posts, and not defend them.
Dan Listermann - 22 Apr 2009 21:24 GMT > Bob > Christ Died to Save You From what?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 21:36 GMT > Bob Meyers wrote: > >> Bob >> Christ Died to Save You > >From what? From your death sentence:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist
"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
Amen.
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fred Thomas - 22 Apr 2009 23:57 GMT >> Bob Meyers wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit The wages of growing old is death, your point?
> Amen. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://EmoryCardiology.com Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 02:14 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit Amen.
>The wages of growing old is death, your point? Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), because we have eternal life...
"For GOD so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 3:16)
Amen.
When we believe in Jesus, Who is GOD's Son, we trust Jesus, Who is the truth.
"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
Amen.
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fred Thomas - 23 Apr 2009 11:18 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), > because we have eternal life... That is a myth that is not original to "Christianity". You have determined that all those other religions with that belief as myth, yours is in the same category. You will die and that will be it. You have no soul, there is no heaven, it's a lie.
> "For GOD so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that > whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." -- [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://EmoryCardiology.com Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:25 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >That is a myth that is not original to "Christianity". Reality is not myth:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungry
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:06 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Reality is not myth: You can easily identify the stories of other religions as myths, but you have a great huge blind spot for your own superstition.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:36 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >You can easily identify the stories of other religions as myths, but you >have a great huge blind spot for your own superstition. Christianity is neither religion, myth, nor supersitition:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/NoReligion
Instead, it remains a personal relationship with Christ Jesus.
Being brought back from death by GOD is very personal:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:10 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Christianity is neither religion, myth, nor supersitition: Only by your fiat, nothing more, silly.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:09 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Only by your fiat, nothing more, silly. Please be sure to let us know when the Holy Spirit helps you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as He is helping me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 23 Apr 2009 20:57 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Reality is not myth: The reality is that your lord is a myth.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungry > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://EmoryCardiology.com Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:32 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > > Reality is not myth: http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
> The reality is that your lord is a myth. The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 22:17 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly > say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit: Garbage.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 22:31 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Garbage. Not for the folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal comprehension.
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 00:39 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Not for the folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal > comprehension. Folks with normal vision, normal hearing, and normal comprehension do not need help for communication from a mythological character from a text written by bronze age goat herders.
> Truth is simple :-) > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://WDJW.net Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 00:36 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > The reality remains that you and other non-christians can not publicly > say "Jesus is LORD" without the help of GOD the Holy Spirit: The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time. Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality. The true reality is your mentally ill.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://WDJW.net Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 10:01 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time. > Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
> The true reality is your mentally ill. You are projecting your difficulties with reality onto others:
"What is truth?" -- the rhetorical question of a non-christian (John 18:38)
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 11:11 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>> >>> Truth is simple :- The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time. Your "holy spirit" is non-existent, not real, not reality. The true reality is your mentally ill.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 15:55 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time. Incorrect.
You and other non-christians remain not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as oft observed:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
The only rational explanation for this observation is " ... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 21:19 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Truth is simple :-) The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 24 Apr 2009 21:26 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time. Incorrect.
Reality is as being observed:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? The only rational explanation for this observation is " ... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
 Signature Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Fred Thomas - 24 Apr 2009 21:31 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Incorrect. The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any time.
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 00:05 GMT >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > The reality is that anybody, anywhere can say anything they want at any > time. I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues.
Fred Thomas - 25 Apr 2009 00:42 GMT >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues. They can write though.........
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 01:05 GMT >>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> I think Andy is refering to people with no tongues. > They can write though......... Yeah but then it would be "write" and not "say". You gotta be specific with "dr" Chung. Or he'll just twist your words or give you one of his classic non-answers.
Fred Thomas - 25 Apr 2009 01:34 GMT >>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > with "dr" Chung. Or he'll just twist your words or give you one of his > classic non-answers. Oh right sorry my bad.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Apr 2009 05:05 GMT > Oh right sorry my bad. Without the LORD, you are both sorry and bad (Ecclesiastes).
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Peter Griffin - 25 Apr 2009 00:04 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Incorrect. God knows you're proof of that.
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 15:09 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Not for those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), > because we have eternal life... Per monkfish, is that your blind faith?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:35 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Per monkfish, is that your blind faith? No.
It is my GOD-given experience:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:10 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > It is my GOD-given experience: Right. The supposed creator of the Universe sat down in front of you and told you this and anybody else, even the non-brainwashed, can experience this explanation, at will, without first buying a load of MYTHS.
Whip out your next pile of scripture please.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:31 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Right. GOD is right :-)
>The supposed creator of the Universe sat down in front of you and >told you this and anybody else, even the non-brainwashed, can experience >this explanation, at will, without first buying a load of MYTHS. Incorrect.
GOD simply brought me back from death:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:11 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Incorrect. Well that was easy to say. Can you explain yourself without hypertexting some nonsense?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:15 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Well that was easy to say. It was easy to type and electronically post.
> Can you explain yourself without hypertexting > some nonsense? As soon as you hear someone publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you have, that would be experiencing a miracle, which is evidence of GOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 15:08 GMT >> Bob Meyers wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > From your death sentence: Hey, I got news for you. You and everybody else is under the same death sentence. Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture? I can't wait . . .
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 16:30 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:. >>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >sentence. Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you >do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture? Certainly:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
> I can't wait . . . That would be because your time is running out.
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 17:11 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:. >>>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Certainly: I am not going to wade through you pile of sites. If you can spit it out, quick and easy right here, maybe it is just too stupid to type.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 17:25 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>>Hey, I got news for you. You and everybody else is under the same death >>>sentence. Incorrect.
Those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), have eternal life (John 3:16).
>>> Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you >>> do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture? >> >> Certainly: > > I am not going to wade through you pile of sites. Your choice.
> If you can spit it out, > quick and easy right here, maybe it is just too stupid to type. GOD had brought me back from the dead.
The evidence remains as published:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://EmoryCardiology.com
Dan Listermann - 23 Apr 2009 19:14 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Those of us, who are true Christians (either Jew or gentile), have > eternal life (John 3:16). Totally unfounded except for some hypertext pile of nonsense that is due any minute. . ..
>>>> Please tell us all how you expect to get a reprieve and can you >>>> do it without resorting to quoting silly scripture? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > GOD had brought me back from the dead. Wonderful. I don't believe that sort of "evidence." There are thousands of these sorts of stories told by thousands of religions. They are meaningless. Can you do better?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Apr 2009 21:25 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Totally unfounded except for some hypertext pile of nonsense that is due any > minute. . .. Not for those of us who have had the personal experience of being brought back by GOD after dying and not for those of us who simply trust the written words of Jesus, Who is the truth.
You do remind me of the man, blind from birth, denying the existence of vision.
To this day, that blind man remains angry about the confidence of the seeing in discussions about the existence of vision.
And, so you will remain angry about the confidence of true Christians (either Jew or gentile) in discussions about GOD until you come to trust His Son, Jesus.
May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor http://WDJW.net
Teg - 23 Apr 2009 23:50 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > brought back by GOD after dying and not for those of us who simply > trust the written words of Jesus, Who is the truth. Andrew for information: I have died several times and each time was bought back to life by the doctor(s) who were treating me, there was no religious experience, no white light, no tunnel, no God bringing me back, I am not a believer and can say publicly that "Jesus is Lord".
> You do remind me of the man, blind from birth, denying the existence > of vision. Do you know this man, do you know any blind man that denies the existence of vision. (just curious).
> To this day, that blind man remains angry about the confidence of the > seeing in discussions about the existence of vision. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Board-certified Heart Doctor > http://WDJW.net Chungholio - 23 Apr 2009 17:22 GMT >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:. >>>> Bob Meyers wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook Um, dipshit, he said WITHOUT the scripture. Face it, you can't.
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (# being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates, which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet, then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his 'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they pass away.
Thommadura - 23 Apr 2009 00:32 GMT >> Bob >> Christ Died to Save You > > From what? From theists - and obviously - it didn't work. So much for that almighty god thingy.
Chungholio - 23 Apr 2009 04:35 GMT >>> Would suggest you ask your doctor about checking the function of your >>> thyroid gland, which can be affected by amiodarone. >> >>Would suggest not listening to Chung's advice: > > Why should we listen to YOUR advice? Because Chung's advice is assuredly doom.
> Evidently, you are an MD? Evidently, compared to Chung, almost everyone here is.
> Somehow, you are obviously superior to all the rest of us. If you say it's obvious, then it must be true.
> Why can't > you sign your posts with some meaningful id? What? And be subjected to stalking? Right.
> Why don't you point out > what's wrong with Dr. Chung's advice above? You don't know Chung very well, do you?
> Seems to me his advice is > that his questioner ask his own doctor about something. Second verse same as the first.
Get a clue, Holmes.
Ben - 21 Apr 2009 18:06 GMT Yes, I am aware about the thyroid gland. The amiodarone took care of that 6 years ago. I am not on Levothyroxine. I went though a rough time, it took the doctors a long time to connect that with amiodarone. He had send me to a throat specialist and could not find anything wrong, but treated me for reflux. till I almost could not walk anymore, they checked my thyroid and now I am on medication for that. Therefore I want to be a step ahead of the doctors, before they send me again to a bunch of specialist and try all kinds of medication. I would like to know if the Low hemoglobin is a result of the use of Amiodarone and the tingling and cold finger tips a result of the low hemoglobin. In two weeks, I will have again the blood test done, if it is still low, I will bring it to the doctors attention that it might come from the Amiodarone. I have been on it for about 8 years
Ben
>> I am having cold finger tips and sometimes also my feet. Now a couple of >> weeks ago, my doctor told me, that after I had a full blood test done, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Board-certified Cardiologist > http://T3WiJ.com Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 22 Apr 2009 10:49 GMT > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Ben It is unlikely that the low hemoglobin is due to the amiodarone.
Would suggest you ask your doctor to check your ferritin and reticulocyte count.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <>< ]-- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://T3WiJ.com
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