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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / March 2009***Did you know...***
JESUS IS LORD. Andrew B. Chung is an idiot. On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:27:39 -0600, truth checker ::: wrote (in article <712c7cFic4koU1@mid.individual.net>): > JESUS IS LORD. According to some > Andrew B. Chung is an idiot. Obvious to many > JESUS IS LORD. Even satan knows this (and can have his sockpuppets type this) ... ... but he does not believe this in his heart. This is why the Holy Spirit will not help satan and other non-christians like you publicly say "Jesus is LORD." >Andrew B. Chung is an idiot. Lie. "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit Amen. Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera. The Holy Spirit will not be helping you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" while you remain a pathological liar, which is someone who does not trust the truth. May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net > Even satan knows this (and can have his sockpuppets type this) ... Exactly, just as Satan could have had the above typed by a sockpuppet. It does seem that Chung doth protest a little to much, methinks. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <achung@emory.edu> wrote in message > Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera. Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people? f.cking psuedo-Christian. a non-christian neighbor wrote: >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people? No. Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician. The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to diagnose pathological lying. "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit Amen. > f.cking psuedo-Christian. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you to unwittingly provide yourself as yet another example of a non-christian person, who is unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD." May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://EmoryCardiology.com >> Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit Seems like a question and not a statement and the poster did not make any statement that was a lie but only asked a question. Seems for someone who is such a stickler and comments when "says" is used in a text based medium, you, Chung, should be held to the same standard. satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit Amen. > Seems like a question and not a statement and the poster did not make any > statement that was a lie but only asked a question. Lie. This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your native language. May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e17dea9c6a25e81c? <>< "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD." (Proverbs 16:33) Amen. A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2? Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109? Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any time: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0? What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a catastrophic Pan-Flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU How to not be fearful: Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!! http://T3WiJ.com May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://WDJW.net Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Jesus is LORD, forever !!! http://JiL4ever.net Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <5adb1262-19a8-493e-b267-c06c5209449a@y13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>: >satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your >native language. You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage. Intentionally misquoting or mistranslating is a form of lying, which seems to be your nature (which is what the verse actually says).  SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage. It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write: "Lying is satan's native language." -- Holy Spirit Amen. May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <mv8rq4tgp8lade0vvjhuu86d1d5fubsnkm@4ax.com>: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: >>>This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your >>>native language. >>You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage. > >It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of >the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write: >"Lying is satan's native language." -- Holy Spirit "Lying is satan's very nature." - Bible SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > "Lying is satan's very nature." - Bible "Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's native language." Truth is simple :-) May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <67e4eec4-3bff-4e31-afe2-c7ea0cb23053@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: >"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's >native language." Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the "language" he speaks. >Truth is simple You should try it sometime. SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew. in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the >"language" he speaks. Incorrect. A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is produced. Thus, when lying is a person's native language it does mean that lying is a person's very nature (happening in all the other languages s/he may be using). Truth is simple :-) May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net > A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level > of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is > produced. Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk, write, think and dream in both languages without translating. As a stickler in the use of words, I thought you might like to know that. It seems to me I heard somewhere that J666 wrote in article <0001HW.C5D456F60011E12DB01AD9AF@news.supernews.com>: >> A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level >> of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is >> produced. >Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk, >write, think and dream in both languages without translating. Thank you. I'm one of those people, though I don't handle my second language as well as I do my first. I can also draw meaning from reading some other languages without doing mental translation. >As a stickler in the use of words, I thought you might like to know that. SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net It seems to me I heard somewhere that Don Kirkman wrote in article <9s7uq4t5rh8qsv5p2ibcgsqkduqnaffkh3@4ax.com>: >It seems to me I heard somewhere that J666 wrote in article ><0001HW.C5D456F60011E12DB01AD9AF@news.supernews.com>: >>> A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level >>> of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is >>> produced. >>Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk, >>write, think and dream in both languages without translating. >Thank you. I'm one of those people, though I don't handle my second >language as well as I do my first. I can also draw meaning from >reading some other languages without doing mental translation. It occurred to me that Dr. Chung is on record as being bilingual, English and Mandarin. Since the odds are he learned both languages at his mother's knee (by far the most effective learning method) a little introspection might have told him that he does not think before translating into other languages and speaking. First, has he ever tried thinking without using a language? and, second, a person fluent in his second language will form his words in that language, not in his first language. Or, maybe he's not really that fluent in Mandarin at all? SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > he does not think Yes, Chung does not think. He was once able to in order to get his degrees and Boards, but not know. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240? <>< May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well... May GOD soften their hearts so that they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray > not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well... Religion 1.01 Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians. Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham, but are different otherwise. Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians. Lie. Many Jews actually trust the truth, Who is Jesus, in their hearts and are therefore Christians, albeit Jewish Christians: Chinese Christian: "Can you say 'Jesus is LORD' ?" Jewish friend: "No, I can not say 'Jesus is LORD'" Chinese Christian: "You just did ! ! !" Jewish Christian: "Please don't tell my Jewish friends." "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) Amen. May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240? <>< "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD." (Proverbs 16:33) Amen. A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2? Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109? Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any time: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0? What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a catastrophic Pan-Flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU How to not be fearful: Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!! http://T3WiJ.com May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://WDJW.net Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Jesus is LORD, forever !!! http://JiL4ever.net Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? >>> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray >>> not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Lie. I find it interesting that many extremists when it comes to God and faith, ignore definitions and facts so that their own little world remains intact. It is also interesting repetition gives them much comfort as though repetition makes it true. Perhaps it is good that Chung does not use his MD, PhD and Boards with his current mentality. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240? <>< "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD." (Proverbs 16:33) Amen. A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2? Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109? Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any time: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0? What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a catastrophic Pan-Flu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU How to not be fearful: Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!! http://T3WiJ.com May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://WDJW.net Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Jesus is LORD, forever !!! http://JiL4ever.net Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? On Mar 5, 11:54 am, J666 <j...@nowhere.com> wrote: > I find it interesting that many extremists when it comes to God and faith, > ignore definitions and facts so that their own little world remains intact. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Perhaps it is good that Chung does not use his MD, PhD and Boards with his > current mentality. Chung's response shows it all. Like the small child who puts his fingers in his ears and repeats out loud the same thing over and over so cannot hear what is being said, Chung ignores what is written and writes the same things over and over. It is obvious he cannot answer and so acts like a child. It is interesting, and sad, how people like Chung can really fool themselves. f.ck orf chung. You're a f.cking loon. On Mar 5, 12:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lie. There are a few Jews who've converted to Christianity, but only a very tiny % of them have. To most Jews, the Christian Cross is to them what a skull & crossbones is to most people, or worse. Some of the more ignorant Jews still try to claim J.C. never existed at all. > Many Jews actually trust the truth, Who is Jesus, in their hearts and > are therefore Christians, albeit Jewish Christians: [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? > Some of the more ignorant Jews still try to claim J.C. never existed > at all. What proof do you have that he was the son of God - it is what some believe and others do not and belief something else. Viewing others with different religious beliefs who do not accept yours as the truth and calling them ignorant, really shows your ignorance about religions. > On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:37:00 -0600, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote > (in article [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the truth and calling them ignorant, really shows your ignorance about > religions. I have not stated my own beliefs here. I am referring to the ignorant ones who deny the historic J.C. That aside, J.C. is the most famous person who ever existed. You don't get that way by being some imaginary schmuck. > That aside, J.C. is the most famous > person > who ever existed Abraham, of the God of Abraham of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is pretty famous too. Do not forget Moses. Because Jesus is famous does not mean that he was the son of a God. last_permutation wrote: >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >There are a few Jews who've converted to Christianity, but only >a very tiny % of them have. Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" thereby allowing me to know they belong to Christ and are therefore Christians even though they may deny Him with their minds (i.e. prodigal Jewish Christians). Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://EmoryCardiology.com It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <6kc2r4ps0jndel5lv1ee11ir1tjrlui4r7@4ax.com>: >Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked >are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh? SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > article <6kc2r4ps0jndel5lv1ee11ir1tjrlui4r7@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh? Are you able to publicly say "Chung is Insane" > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked > > are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" > > So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh? Blessed to know more than a few Jewish friends at Emory University :-) Even have family who are Jewish. Truth is simple :-) Sample dialogue with Jewish friends... Andrew: "Can you say 'Jesus is LORD' ?" Jewish friend: "I can't say 'Jesus is LORD.'" Andrew: "You just did ! ! !" Jewish friend: "That's impossible. I am Jewish ! ! !" Andrew: "And, I am Chinese. Your point is what exactly?" :-) May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist http://JiL4ever.net >> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray >> not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham, > but are different otherwise. That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims pray to a different God than Jews or Christians. > Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the > religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Or? No, it is the confession *and* following Jesus. Vera -- ___________________________________________________ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de WHERE JESUS CHRIST IS LORD http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com It seems to me I heard somewhere that ::: Jesus is LORD ::: wrote in article <71am1eFk8lqjU1@mid.individual.net>: >> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians. >> Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham, >> but are different otherwise. >That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims >pray to a different God than Jews or Christians. I think you've got your history mixed up. Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammad as written in the Koran, basically an explanation and call to follow the God of Abraham, the father of both Jews and Muslims. Since Christianity came out of Judaism, it follows that Christians also follow the same God as the other two religions. >> Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the >> religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > convicted neighbor Vera masquerading as a christian wrote: > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > > >> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians. Incorrect. Many Jews belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish Christians. > >> Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham, > >> but are different otherwise. Incorrect. Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and gentile Christians respectively. > > That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims > > pray to a different God than Jews or Christians. Incorrect. Those who belong the Christ, whether Jew or gentile, pray to the same GOD, Who is the Creator of heaven and earth and the Author of all reality. > I think you've got your history mixed up. Muslims follow the > teachings of Muhammad as written in the Koran, basically an > explanation and call to follow the God of Abraham, the father of both > Jews and Muslims. Since Christianity came out of Judaism, it follows > that Christians also follow the same God as the other two religions. Incorrect. Christianity is not a religion but a relationship arising out of belonging to Christ. > >> Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the > >> religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Incorrect. A Christian is one who belongs to Christ. Those who are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" are Christian. Those who can not publicly say "Jesus is LORD" are non-christian. A non-christian becomes Christian only by being reborn of water and the Holy Spirit thereby becoming a new creature in Christ. May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus, thereby becoming reborn of water and the Holy Spirit, thereby becoming a new creature in Christ: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? > Many Jews belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish Christians. There is only a very small percentage of Jews who believe in Jesus. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <a205e86d-d1c5-44c3-a88d-a622f0a11516@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>: >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and >gentile Christians respectively. Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. When a Jew converts to Christianity he becomes a Christian and [usually] no longer observes the Jewish religious rituals. "Gentile" is a generic cultural description to describe non-Jews; nobody "converts" from Gentilism to Christianity. SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > article [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Gentile" is a generic cultural description to describe non-Jews; > nobody "converts" from Gentilism to Christianity. A shiksa a non-Jewish, gentile, woman. In Judaism the child is the religion of the mother. > > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > > article [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > A shiksa a non-Jewish, gentile, woman. And also a racial slur. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and > >gentile Christians respectively. > > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. Incorrect. If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was. Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic cleansing." Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese Buddhists :-) Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious one. May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <38872f75-3572-49e6-aa34-d87f7dc1b2d3@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and >> >gentile Christians respectively. >> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. >If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis >upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious >persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was. They were taken out of the enclaves and the ``` and the ghettos and, as practicing Jews, they were sent to the "labor" camps and killed. At that time and place in history ethnicity and religion were essentially a way of identifying the same group of people. Your confusing the two is similar to what the Nazis did. [Begin] >Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust >perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic >cleansing." I just refuted it. >Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me >that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic >one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese >Buddhists :-) There are in fact Chinese Jews. >Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Andrew <>< SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > They were taken out of the enclaves and the ``` and the ghettos and, > as practicing Jews, they were sent to the "labor" camps and killed. Thus, they were persecuted for their ethnicity and not their religious beliefs. May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? On Mar 6, 10:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese > Buddhists :-) The Chinese Jews http://www.haruth.com/JewsChina1907.html The Pien-Liang (Kiafeng) Jewish Community The Harbin Jewish Community The Shanghai Jewish Community The Beijing Jewish Community http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/chinajews.html > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious > one. Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth. HTH, Deborah > May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would > come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? > > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. > > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious > > one. > > Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth. Funny, I've heard about all those three-legged ballerinas too. I mean, we all know how multi-cultural Israel is, and how the ZioNazi scum who run it are such a diverse lot. >> > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. >> > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I mean, we all know how multi-cultural Israel is, and how the ZioNazi >scum who run it are such a diverse lot. Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known. SignatureMember - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Never Satan President Republic! TRoll(n): An atheism worshipper / believer > In article <d5b6bae5-bb2a-4eba-8771-d283f0bc7...@v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known. Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way. You walk right in lockstep sonny. In news:fc356dc2-978c-42d2-bb8a-d99bdd210a6e@q11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, last_permutation@yahoo.com <last_permutation@yahoo.com> typed: >> In article >> <d5b6bae5-bb2a-4eba-8771-d283f0bc7...@v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way. > You walk right in lockstep sonny. Eh? last_permutation wrote: > > Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known. > > Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way. > You walk right in lockstep sonny. Dear Last_Permutation, Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net > last_permutation wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Dear Last_Permutation Much better, as the discerning realize, to publicly say "CHUNG IS INSANE" satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote" > > last_permutation wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Much better, as the discerning realize, to publicly say "CHUNG IS INSANE" Lie. It is understandable that you want the perishing to publicly bear false witness against those in the Holy Spirit. You are here to deceive the perishing into blaspheming against the Holy Spirit thereby having them fall into eternal condemnation like you. Publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" requires the help of the Holy Spirit because "Jesus is LORD" is absolutely true. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? On Mar 6, 7:16 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. > > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious > > one. > > Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth. Nope. Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Jews. I've fixed it for you shoveari. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <38872f75-3572-49e6-aa34-d87f7dc1b2d3@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and >> >gentile Christians respectively. >> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. >If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis >upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious >persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was. It is typically portrayed (I think that's what you mean) as both, because by and large the Jewish population in pre-WW II Europe were practicing Jews who had roots in the Near East where the Jews originated. >Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust >perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic >cleansing." I have refuted your "irrefutable" fact. >Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me >that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic >one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese >Buddhists :-) There are Chinese Jews; you could look it up. There have been Jews in China for centuries, and some of them have assimilated to Chinese culture. "China's Jewish communities have been ethnically diverse ranging from the Jews of Kaifeng and other places during the history of Imperial China, who, it is reported, came to be more or less totally assimilated into Chinese culture, to 19th and 20th century Baghdadis, to Indians, to Ashkenazi Jews from Europe." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China "Archaelogical evidence suggests that Jews were in China as early as the 8th Century, having arrived from Persia along the Silk Road. In 1163 the Emperor ordered the Jews to live in Kaifeng, where they built the first Chinese synagogue. Marco Polo recorded that Kublai Khan celebrated the festivals of the Muslims, Christians and Jews, indicating that there were a significant number of Jews in China in the 13th Century. "A Ming Emperor conferred on the Jews seven surnames - Ai, Lao, Jin, Li, Shi, Zhang and Zhao. To this day Chinese Jews will only have one of these seven names. Christian missionaries also recorded meetings with Chinese Jews. At least one synagogue was constructed, and the community was active for about eight centuries. Currently, the Vatican holds letters from Jesuits in the 18th Century describing the daily life and religious practices of Jews in Kaifeng, and drawings of their synagogue." http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Jews.html >Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. >Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious >one. Your "therefore" doesn't work. SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > >Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists. > >Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious > >one. > > Your "therefore" doesn't work. What about "Jewish atheist" can't you comprehend? The fact that there are many of them is all it takes to flush your position down the sh.tter. Strange "logic" you have. On Mar 6, 1:33 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists There are MANY Jewish atheists. >On Mar 6, 1:33 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >There are MANY Jewish atheists. Like Karl von Marx. SignatureMember - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Never Satan President Republic! TRoll(n): An atheism worshipper / believer last_permutation wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > There are MANY Jewish atheists. Indeed. Interestingly, many of these "Jewish atheists" can say "Jesus is LORD" so that they actually belong to Jesus and are thus actually prodigal Jewish Christians. Bottom line: Jesus of Nazareth is risen and He remains a Jew ! ! ! Therefore, being a Jew is an ethnic description instead of religious one because Jesus is clearly not religious. Dear friend "last_permutation", Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in > article [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. Don't get out much? You've swallowed that one hook, line and sinker. Jews consider Jewishness in the blood, and they're quite correct. Some diseases, such as polycythemia rubra vera are know to be more common in Jews for example. No known organic disease is related to a person's religion. Nevermind the various physical characteristics common to Jews, common personality traits, etc., regardless of whether a particular one is atheist or a Talmud believer. Jewishness is an ethnicity; a little unbelievable you actually have to be told this. There are countless examples of non-practicing Jews, including atheist Jews, who still very much consider themselves Jewish. The late Isaac Asimov always immediately comes to mind. He was very much atheist, and very much a Jew. Non-Jewish converts are not considered *real* Jews, by Jews, and they will tell you they don't encourage it. It seems to me I heard somewhere that last_permutation@yahoo.com wrote in article <20c437a7-fea5-4e9a-acdf-21aac7a24690@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>: >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in >> article >> <a205e86d-d1c5-44c3-a88d-a622f0a11...@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>: >> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and >> >gentile Christians respectively. >> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. >Don't get out much? You've swallowed that one hook, line and sinker. >Jews consider Jewishness in the blood, and they're quite correct. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >regardless of whether a particular one is atheist or a Talmud >believer. Yes, obviously many Jews share both a history and a genetic relationship. That isn't the whole story, though. Sammy Davis, Jr., became a Jew. There are Jews in many countries that do not share Jewish ethnicity or history, though they are a minority both in their native country and in Judaism. As has been pointed out to Chung by several writers, there are indeed Chinese Jews. >Jewishness is an ethnicity; a little unbelievable you actually have to >be told this. There are countless examples of non-practicing Jews, >including atheist Jews, who still very much consider themselves >Jewish. And in human affairs it is generally accepted, as it should be, that self-identification is paramount--though the world doesn't always accept it. >The late Isaac Asimov always immediately comes to mind. He was >very much atheist, and very much a Jew. Non-Jewish converts >are not considered *real* Jews, by Jews, and they will tell you >they don't encourage it. Of course I was talking, as Chung was, about Jews converting to Christianity, not the other way around, but it does happen and some strands of Judaism are more open to it than others. Atheism, just like other faith systems, is not bounded by ethnicity, intellect, or culture. And like other faith systems, its followers range from highly intellectual believers who present a rigorous defense (or often, offense) to many who are as ill prepared to discuss atheism as many believers of other faiths are to discuss their own beliefs. SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Yes, obviously many Jews share both a history and a genetic > relationship. That isn't the whole story, though. Sammy Davis, Jr., > became a Jew. There are Jews in many countries that do not share > Jewish ethnicity or history, though they are a minority both in their > native country and in Judaism. As has been pointed out to Chung by > several writers, there are indeed Chinese Jews. In the Jewish religion the child is the religion of the mother, so some women have converted to Judaism so her children can be Jewish as is her husband. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <k7stq49qgm2u5f180mh22dnjr2pphjr5tu@4ax.com>: >> Andrew. in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >>>"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's >>>native language." >>Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the >>"language" he speaks. >Incorrect. You could look it up - but I know you won't. >A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level >of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is >produced. Thus, when lying is a person's native language it does mean >that lying is a person's very nature (happening in all the other >languages s/he may be using). Hogwash. Nowadays you've left off even trying to use words properly. >Truth is simple SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew. in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You could look it up - but I know you won't. Simply read the following: > >A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level > >of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hogwash. Nowadays you've left off even trying to use words properly. Your being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative simply shows that you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self) instead of the Holy Spirit as has been oft noted before. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling you to continue to update folks on your still being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD." And so Christians (either Jew or gentile) should continue to pray for your perishing soul... May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? >a non-christian neighbor wrote: >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to > diagnose pathological lying. Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. You're a credit to stupidity. a non-christian neighbor wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > a non-christian neighbor wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD." May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d? >> a non-christian neighbor wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. You're a credit to stupidity. Correct. If a doctor posts in Latin, he should know the grammar. Even I could correct him. convicted neighbor Vera masquerading as a Christian wrote: > a non-christian neighbor wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. You're a credit to stupidity. Lie. >Correct. Lies are always incorrect. > If a doctor posts in Latin, he should know the grammar. Even I >could correct him. Without the LORD, all that you do is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD." May GOD soften your heart, Vera, so you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WIJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! ! http://JiL4ever.net |
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