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Medical Forum / General / Cardiology / December 2008Re: I May Have a Problem
In article writes: > il > From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <achung@emory.edu> > Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology > Subject: Re: I May Have a Problem > Message-ID: <8kelk4dd9qmdbk18cov0mbn9fje1k2e7b0@4ax.com> > References: <78061083-3135-4f16-b8d3-55efc7bfaabc@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com> <b3996c43-22c7-4bfc-9132-34df1933d445@l39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <52557826-b9cd-4d74-9a9f-3cfd47bedbbe@k41g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <gie7gk$ibd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu> > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lines: 84 > X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com > Organization: Forte Inc. http://www.forteinc.com/apn/ > X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:04 -0500 > Xref: news.arizona.edu sci.med.cardiology:159498 alt.christnet.christianlife:512923 alt.christnet.theology:93220 > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted: > >> > lilcatlady <kandilynk...@aol.com> wrote: > >> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> > > > Chuck Kopsho wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > > In the past couple of weeks I have been neglecting to inspect my feet. > >> > > > > Now I've noticed numbness in the tips of my toes, and swollen ankles. > >> > > > > Are these symptoms that a diabetic should look for? There's still > >> > > > > movement in my toes, and mostly sensation. Any help, please? > >> > > > >> > > > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your new symptoms. You > >> > > > may be experiencing right-sided heart failure. > >> > > > >> > > Dear Dr. Chung, > >> > > > >> > > Would a painful hard callusy-blister type thing on one foot (under > >> > > large left toe in the area closest to the foot) that does not heal > >> > > possibly be any clue to heart abnormalities? I have had one there now > >> > > for about five months. Also about a week ago I developed a painless > >> > > hard but blistery type thing on TOP of my left foot below the toe next > >> > > to the big one. > >> > > > >> > > I have been told I am non-diabetic. The large under toe thing makes it > >> > > painful to walk sometimes. > >> > > > >> > > I have had my feet "freeze" (they felt like they fell asleep all of a > >> > > sudden) in the up posistion and stumbled in public a couple of times. > >> > > It was quite embarrassing. That was about 3 months before the callus > >> > > formed. I told my doctor about it and he did not know what it could > >> > > signify. > >> > > > >> > > Thank you. Take care. > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c5db6d1794718e8? > > >> > Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice > >> > medicine. > >> > >> Lie. > >> > >> If this were true, would not have an active medical license that is > >> verifiable on-line at multiple independent third-party web sites. > > > >Doctor Jack Kevorkian helped three people to die while still in > >possession of an active medical license. > > Yes, he lost his medical license when it was deemed that he was unfit > to practice medicine. Actually, when he became unfit to practice medicine AND that condition came to the attention of the relevant authorities. Lacking one of the two predicates, a physician may continue to possess an active license even if he should not. > Thus, an active medical license to practice does mean a person has > been deemed fit to practice medicine just as an active driver's > license means a person has been deemed fit to drive a motor vehicle. And as renewal is required only every so-many years, a person could have gone completely blind and insane both, and still hold a valid license to drive years after he should not be allowed to do so. - cary > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling > you to unwittingly affirm that my retaining a medical license that has > been continuously active for 13 years since 1995 despite hysterical > complaints from non-christians does indicate fitness to continue > practicing medicine openly as a Christian ! > > Laus Deo ! ! ! > > Meanwhile, the inability of non-christians like you to publicly say > "Jesus is LORD" does indicate that you are not trustworthy because GOD > has looked into your heart and seeing only deceit has concluded that > He will not help you. > > Bottom line concerning your heart being filled with only deceit: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43acbc5ea248ceee? > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be > mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear Cary: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358? > > Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, > > Andrew <>< > -- > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD > Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com > A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/WDJW > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Lacking one of the two predicates, a physician may continue to > possess an active license even if he should not. Back to your attempt to compare Dr. Kevorkian's passion for euthanasia to my passion for LORD Jesus Christ... The GA Medical Board has been aware of my personal choice to be openly Christian for years. They simply disagree with you and other non-christians that being openly Christian makes a physician unfit to practice medicine. Their being largely Christian may have something to do with that opinion. On the other hand, the U.S. being one nation under LORD Almighty GOD is possibly a greater factor. Bottom line: The only physician you can trust to be truthful and competent are those who have GOD's help to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you have witnessed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZfcnX4yWbY Truth is simple. May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear Cary: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43acbc5ea248ceee? Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lacking one of the two predicates, a physician may continue to > > possess an active license even if he should not. > Back to your attempt to compare Dr. Kevorkian's passion for euthanasia > to my passion for LORD Jesus Christ... There's no there to go back to. I made no such comparison, but merely tried to enlighten you as to the illogic of replying to: Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice medicine. with the clearly fallacious: If this were true, would not have an active medical license that is verifiable on-line at multiple independent third-party web sites. > The GA Medical Board has been aware of my personal choice to be openly > Christian for years. > > They simply disagree with you and other non-christians that being > openly Christian makes a physician unfit to practice medicine. Then they don't disagree with me at all, because I hold no such opinion, no matter your desire to wrap yourself in the victim's mantle of those persecuted for their faith. I do wonder, however, if they would concur with my opinion of a physician who holds that every adult should be eating exactly two pounds of food, composition unspecified; and who is convinced that Satan Himself is communicating with him via numerous helpless possessed Usenet posters. What do you think? -- cary > Their > being largely Christian may have something to do with that opinion. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > "Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice > medicine." Which is libellous text from someone who has been a pathogical liar since blaspheming against the Holy Spirit: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c5c55fcace06864? > with the clearly fallacious: > > "If this were true, would not have an active medical license that is > verifiable on-line at multiple independent third-party web sites." Which is a truthful statement because of the following interaction with the GA Medical Board: "Andrew, how has the Holy Spirit informed you that 32 ounces is the optimal amount for all of us? Have you been hearing His voice?" -- GA Medical Board member. "No, have not been hearing His voice though not saying that He can't have me hear His voice. Instead, it is like booting up your personal computer and finding a new folder on your windows desktop with the information that is needed. GOD remains the Source of all knowledge and wisdom." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit. Jesus is LORD ! ! ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZfcnX4yWbY <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? On Dec 18, 5:44 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Which is libellous text from someone who has been a pathogical liar > since blaspheming against the Holy Spirit: It's not a libelous statement when it's true. (You misspelled libellous) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee61d078f539ef44? <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0? Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > information that is needed. GOD remains the Source of all knowledge > and wisdom." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit. Oh, I'm sure *that* reassured the "GA Medical Board"[sic] Incidentally, why not a verbatim quote, rather than an obvious recast into Chung-style dialog? -- cary > Jesus is LORD ! ! ! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Oh, I'm sure *that* reassured the "GA Medical Board"[sic] It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. The fact remains that the active status of my medical license remains verifiable via multiple on-line independent third party web sites. This makes you and others accessories to unlawful acts of libel. > Incidentally, why not a verbatim quote, rather than an obvious > recast into Chung-style dialog? Again, it remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > multiple on-line independent third party web sites. This makes you and > others accessories to unlawful acts of libel. Oh? Quote my "libelous" statement(s): -- cary > > Incidentally, why not a verbatim quote, rather than an obvious > > recast into Chung-style dialog? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Oh? Quote my "libelous" statement(s): "...the clearly fallacious: 'If this were true, would not have an active medical license that is verifiable on-line at multiple independent third-party web sites.'" <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? On Dec 19, 9:59 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > active medical license that is verifiable on-line at multiple > independent third-party web sites.'" Incorrect (and a dodge as usual) No one has said that you are not currently a licensed physician. It's not libel if it's a true statement. The truth is that you are unfit to practice medicine due to reasons of mental illness, dishonesty and inability to practice up to minimal standards. You are are not Board Certified in Internal Medicine. You have no hospital privileges or medical staff membership.You have not had any verifiable employment since being fired in Ocala, Fla in 2001 from your first and only post- cardiology fellowship employment. You're a liar and a lunatic. All of this is true. > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > active medical license that is verifiable on-line at multiple > independent third-party web sites.'" Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? In other words, every time you have labeled a statement by another Usenet poster as "Incorrect" -- one of your most favorite repsones -- you have committed libel? Here, let me give you an actual case of libel, with the hope that you can learn to see the difference. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b22fbafae950a7e7 I hope that helped clarify the distinction. --cary > <>< > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? You written statement makes you an accessory to the following clearly libelous written statement: "Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice medicine." -- a non-christian. Truth is simple. And, there is no truth in your heart else the Holy Spirit would have helped you publicly say "Jesus is LORD." <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? On Dec 19, 10:31 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > You written statement makes you an accessory to the following clearly > libelous written statement: Incorrect. It's not libel when it's true. It doesn't matter who says it, a Christian, an non-Christian, the Dalai Lama or the Iman of Brooklyn. It's still true. > "Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice > medicine." --The Holy Spirit And what about the rest of the quote? It is all true. No one has said that Chung is not currently a licensed physician. It's not libel if it's a true statement. The truth is that Chung is unfit to practice medicine due to reasons of mental illness, dishonesty and inability to practice up to minimal standards. Chung is not Board Certified in Internal Medicine. Chung has no hospital privileges or medical staff membership.Chung has not had any verifiable employment since being fired in Ocala, Fla in 2001 from his first and only post- cardiology fellowship employment. Chung is a liar and a lunatic. All of this is verifiable and true. > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > "Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice > medicine." -- a non-christian. Entirely and completely incorrect. What I DID say -- as well as proving via counter-example -- was that your statment was fallacious, that having an active license does not ipso facto prove that the license holder currently remains competent to practice. What I did NOT say is whether or not this applies to you. And incidentally, google "accessory to libel" and notice how many hits you get. Oh, and one other thing... you snip; I restore: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? In other words, every time you have labeled a statement by another Usenet poster as "Incorrect" -- one of your most favorite repsones -- you have committed libel? Here, let me give you an actual case of libel, with the hope that you can learn to see the difference. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b22fbafae950a7e7 I hope that helped clarify the distinction. --cary > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > Entirely and completely incorrect. Actually, the quote is not just incorrect but libelous. My personal choice to be openly Christian is neither mental illness nor a sign of dishonesty nor an impairment. Truth is simple. <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Actually, the quote is not just incorrect but libelous. And I didn't write it, now did I? I merely demonstrated how your response to it was illogical. Captain. So, Go whinge at the poster who did write it (who, incidentally, is an actual autonomous human being, and not some meat puppet) > My personal choice to be openly Christian is neither mental illness > nor a sign of dishonesty nor an impairment. When you find somebody other than yourself flogging that idea, quote him or her, and then we'll go into it. I myself have never written anything of the sort, because I myself think that's a silly idea, nor do I personally know anyone else who would agree with it. Oh,,,well, you know: 09909090909090909090909 Entirely and completely incorrect. What I DID say -- as well as proving via counter-example -- was that your statment was fallacious, that having an active license does not ipso facto prove that the license holder currently remains competent to practice. What I did NOT say is whether or not this applies to you. And incidentally, google "accessory to libel" and notice how many hits you get. Oh, and one other thing... you snip; I restore: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? In other words, every time you have labeled a statement by another Usenet poster as "Incorrect" -- one of your most favorite repsones -- you have committed libel? Here, let me give you an actual case of libel, with the hope that you can learn to see the difference. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b22fbafae950a7e7 I hope that helped clarify the distinction. --cary > <>< > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > And I didn't write it, now did I? Did not write that you did. Instead, you remain an accessory by what you wrote in support of the libelous statement. This simply shows that there is no truth is your heart, so that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right not to help you publicly say "Jesus is LORD." http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43acbc5ea248ceee? <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > Instead, you remain an accessory by what you wrote in support of the > libelous statement. Actually, I wrote in support of logic and intellectual honesty. SOMEBODY had to. > This simply shows that there is no truth is your heart, Well, how *there's* a worthy candidate for Irony of the Day, Usenet Division. Incidentally, how's that search for the legal concept "accessory to libel" coming along? ......................... > Actually, the quote is not just incorrect but libelous. And I didn't write it, now did I? I merely demonstrated how your response to it was illogical. Captain. So, Go whinge at the poster who did write it (who, incidentally, is an actual autonomous human being, and not some meat puppet) > My personal choice to be openly Christian is neither mental illness > nor a sign of dishonesty nor an impairment. When you find somebody other than yourself flogging that idea, quote him or her, and then we'll go into it. I myself have never written anything of the sort, because I myself think that's a silly idea, nor do I personally know anyone else who would agree with it. Oh,,,well, you know: 09909090909090909090909 Entirely and completely incorrect. What I DID say -- as well as proving via counter-example -- was that your statment was fallacious, that having an active license does not ipso facto prove that the license holder currently remains competent to practice. What I did NOT say is whether or not this applies to you. And incidentally, google "accessory to libel" and notice how many hits you get. Oh, and one other thing... you snip; I restore: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? In other words, every time you have labeled a statement by another Usenet poster as "Incorrect" -- one of your most favorite repsones -- you have committed libel? Here, let me give you an actual case of libel, with the hope that you can learn to see the difference. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b22fbafae950a7e7 I hope that helped clarify the distinction. --cary > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ab6d5efb9599e8d? > > Actually, I wrote in support of logic and intellectual honesty. Wiser to trust the truth because all else is fallacious. It is when you choose to trust the truth, that the time becomes right for GOD to drive out the deceit from your heart so that the Holy Spirit would possibly help you to publicly say "Jesus is LORD." http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43acbc5ea248ceee? <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wi Andy snip! Bad Andy! Bad BAD Andy! Actually, I wrote in support of logic and intellectual honesty. SOMEBODY had to. > This simply shows that there is no truth is your heart, Well, how *there's* a worthy candidate for Irony of the Day, Usenet Division. Incidentally, how's that search for the legal concept "accessory to libel" coming along? ......................... > Actually, the quote is not just incorrect but libelous. And I didn't write it, now did I? I merely demonstrated how your response to it was illogical. Captain. So, Go whinge at the poster who did write it (who, incidentally, is an actual autonomous human being, and not some meat puppet) > My personal choice to be openly Christian is neither mental illness > nor a sign of dishonesty nor an impairment. When you find somebody other than yourself flogging that idea, quote him or her, and then we'll go into it. I myself have never written anything of the sort, because I myself think that's a silly idea, nor do I personally know anyone else who would agree with it. Oh,,,well, you know: 09909090909090909090909 Entirely and completely incorrect. What I DID say -- as well as proving via counter-example -- was that your statment was fallacious, that having an active license does not ipso facto prove that the license holder currently remains competent to practice. What I did NOT say is whether or not this applies to you. And incidentally, google "accessory to libel" and notice how many hits you get. Oh, and one other thing... you snip; I restore: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Saying that an opinion of yours is fallacious constitutes libel? In other words, every time you have labeled a statement by another Usenet poster as "Incorrect" -- one of your most favorite repsones -- you have committed libel? Here, let me give you an actual case of libel, with the hope that you can learn to see the difference. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b22fbafae950a7e7 I hope that helped clarify the distinction. --cary On Dec 18, 10:28 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > multiple on-line independent third party web sites. This makes you and > others accessories to unlawful acts of libel. Incorrect (and a dodge as usual) No one has said that you are not currently a licensed physician. It's not libel if it's a true statement. The truth is that you are unfit to practice medicine due to reasons of mental illness, dishonesty and inability to practice up to minimal standards. You are are not Board Certified in Internal Medicine. You have no hospital privileges or medical staff membership.You have not had any verifiable employment since being fired in Ocala, Fla in 2001 from your first and only post- cardiology fellowship employment. You're a liar and a lunatic. All of this is true. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <dbd39ccf-5ea9-4bb4-ba3a-61ce66b1af22@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>: >The GA Medical Board has been aware of my personal choice to be openly >Christian for years. >They simply disagree with you and other non-christians that being >openly Christian makes a physician unfit to practice medicine. Their >being largely Christian may have something to do with that opinion. >On the other hand, the U.S. being one nation under LORD Almighty GOD >is possibly a greater factor. Though not perfect that is a more accurate interpretation than you presumption that Christian physicians should be preferred. I must admit, though, that it's been a while since you've used that one. >Bottom line: > >The only physician you can trust to be truthful and competent are >those who have GOD's help to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you have >witnessed: Spoke too soon, I guess, because there is the old beauty dressed in slightly newer garb than the last time I saw her.  SignatureDon Kirkman donsno2@charter.net > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Though not perfect that is a more accurate interpretation than you > presumption that Christian physicians should be preferred. It remains simply their opinion rather than an interpretation. In the Holy Spirit, I know that only those, who are able to publicly declare that "Jesus is LORD," do not have malice in their hearts. > I must > admit, though, that it's been a while since you've used that one. Actually, you have been informed of this rather frequently even up to recently. > > Bottom line: > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Spoke too soon, I guess, because there is the old beauty dressed in > slightly newer garb than the last time I saw her. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD:" http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c7450430959d1363? <>< "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice medicine. He has had no verifiable employment and no hospital privileges since 2001 when he was fired in less than 3 months from his very first post-cardiology fellowship job. He is not a reliable source of medical information. He is not Board Certified in Internal Medicine and when his Board Certification in Cardiology expires in 2010, he will not be able to recertify due to his lack of patient encounters. > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > and when his Board Certification in Cardiology expires in 2010, he > will not be able to recertify due to his lack of patient encounters. Chung is a dishonest, mentally ill person who is not fit to practice medicine. He has had no verifiable employment and no hospital privileges since 2001 when he was fired in less than 3 months from his very first post-cardiology fellowship job. He is not a reliable source of medical information. He is not Board Certified in Internal Medicine and when his Board Certification in Cardiology expires in 2010, he will not be able to recertify due to his lack of patient encounters. Caveat emptor. It's not libel if it's true. And all of the above statements are true. Go ahead, Chung. Parse it out. Line by line and feebly attempt to mangle the words and ive your spin on why it's not true. Then look up the legal definition of libel. Then call me Satan. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee61d078f539ef44? <>< May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0? Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Be hungrier, which is truly healthier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What does Jesus want (WDJW) ? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/188fd2ec63b3ba63? |
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